Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
I am actually trying to figure out how to set up anonymous read access to a peice of the Subversion source repository it lives in so I can give everybody access. :D For now, here it is: http://jack.feedbackplusinc.com/~jhaltom/wpkg.tar.gz It's not currently super impressive, but it gets the job done. It is by no means a full "product". Just a simple script. Please, if anybody has useful contributions, I'll happily accept them. Really, my only real need, is some clean way to launch this on workstations at boot. RIght now im using FireDaemon, to run "cscript.exe \\path\to\script", and stop when it exits. This is fairly ugly, and hard to set up. I was thinking of quickly knocking out a small NT service in VS.NET, but I haven't done that in ages (I run a full linux desktop now). If I did that, I would probably just rewrite the script as a real service anyways. Also, I need to add dependencies between packages in some way. Or, if that's too far to go, at least ordering. Right now, it installs packages in a pretty random order. Need some way to specify to install Package X before it installs package Y, which happens to be an upgrade to package X, or something. Enjoy! On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 10:13, Urs Rau wrote: > Jerry Haltom wrote: > > > I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying > > applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software > > packages. > > > > I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :) > > > > It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's. > > Sounds very interesting. I take it you are about to offer it for > inspection/download at some point in the near future? Or you are writing > up some plan of action on how to write another (more > comprehensive/flexible) one? > And we are all waiting very patiently. ;-) Good work! Keep it up! > > Thanks for your efforts. > > Urs Rau > > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
Jerry Haltom wrote: I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software packages. I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :) It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's. Sounds very interesting. I take it you are about to offer it for inspection/download at some point in the near future? Or you are writing up some plan of action on how to write another (more comprehensive/flexible) one? And we are all waiting very patiently. ;-) Good work! Keep it up! Thanks for your efforts. Urs Rau -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software packages. This is one of the MAJOR things I would want to do with such a package. We all know how bad it sucks to try to maintain a consistent base among workstations without using the native W2K tools and such... That is a great concept. Would you mind sharing your source to contribute if this thing ever gets off the ground? -- Erich Vinson Chief of Technology IT, Inc. 64 6F 6E 27 74 20 66 65 61 72 20 74 68 65 20 70 65 6E 67 75 69 6E -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
I have created a GPO similar program specifically for deploying applications to workstations. Similar to how GPO can push software packages. I like to call it wpkg. (dpkg for Windows :) It's very simple, but, very effective, and it works for more than MSI's. It consists of a script, which is run at STARTUP (not login) as a domain account. I did this by using FireDaemon to start it. The script examines a centralized XML file (on a share reachable by the service the script is started by). The XML file details packages, version, and command lines to add/remove/upgrade each package. There is another XML file, for profiles, which reference package's in the packages file. This is used for departments in my office. I have a profile named "it" which requires certain packages. Profiles can inherit from other profiles. The sum of all packages is collected. The script then compares the packages that should be installed, with those that are, from a local xml file (C:\WINNT\System32\wpkg.xml), and determines what action it needs to take for each file. Install, Upgrade, or remove. Each package has a list of command lines assoicated with each action. Such as running msiexec /i for the install action, and msiexec /x for remove commands... some of my packages just run xcopy. It's pretty useful. The main problem im having with it is the FireDaemon service needs to start as a Domain user, so I need to edit the computers local security policy to enable that account to Log on as a Service. That would have been automated by group policy. :D Jerry Haltom Feedback Plus, Inc. On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 12:22, Erich Vinson wrote: > > However, the advantage that GPO's had when I used them is that they seem to > > take effect immediatly where some of the registry edits with kixtart > > don't... > > The reason for this is that in a native 2K domain, you can set a GPO > refresh interval that downloads and applies updated GPOs. We could > certainly implement something similar to that, whether with Kixtart or > developing a new app... > > I would like to start getting input from other admins that use Samba as > a 2KServer alternative as far as the features they would like to see, > how it should be deployed, etc. > > Not sure right now which is better, modify Kixtart or start from > scratch? I have been thinking more and more and definately want to get > something started, if for no other reason than it would make my life > easier ;-) Of course, I'm willing to share! :-D Also, this could really > help the cause of Samba as the GPO thing is a pretty major hurdle for 2K > admins to overcome when considering whether to switch or not. > > -- > Erich Vinson > Chief of Technology > IT, Inc. > > 64 6F 6E 27 74 20 66 65 61 72 20 74 68 65 20 70 65 6E 67 75 69 6E -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
However, the advantage that GPO's had when I used them is that they seem to take effect immediatly where some of the registry edits with kixtart don't... The reason for this is that in a native 2K domain, you can set a GPO refresh interval that downloads and applies updated GPOs. We could certainly implement something similar to that, whether with Kixtart or developing a new app... I didn't mean that so much... although that is something else... I meant more that if I have a common My Documents folder (and at home I do) if I change the logon script to point to a new folder it takes two logons to have that folder redirected. I'm assuming it works like this... 1. Log on 2. Read location of My Documents 3. Run Logon Script / Set Registry 4. Log off 5. Repeat So that there is no second step 2 until repeated... Matt -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Re: Pseudo-GPO Support for Samba
However, the advantage that GPO's had when I used them is that they seem to take effect immediatly where some of the registry edits with kixtart don't... The reason for this is that in a native 2K domain, you can set a GPO refresh interval that downloads and applies updated GPOs. We could certainly implement something similar to that, whether with Kixtart or developing a new app... I would like to start getting input from other admins that use Samba as a 2KServer alternative as far as the features they would like to see, how it should be deployed, etc. Not sure right now which is better, modify Kixtart or start from scratch? I have been thinking more and more and definately want to get something started, if for no other reason than it would make my life easier ;-) Of course, I'm willing to share! :-D Also, this could really help the cause of Samba as the GPO thing is a pretty major hurdle for 2K admins to overcome when considering whether to switch or not. -- Erich Vinson Chief of Technology IT, Inc. 64 6F 6E 27 74 20 66 65 61 72 20 74 68 65 20 70 65 6E 67 75 69 6E -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba