Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-23 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 16:59 -0600, Chris McKeever wrote:
 some more information:
 
 if I 'getent shadow' - I can find the accounts in question, but getent
 passwd just does not work - however, there are other accounts in the
 LDAP, added the same way, and they show up in the 'getent passwd'
 

I understand you are eager for someone to solve your issue.

Unfortunately, you are the one in the best position to do that and it
would seem to me that no amount of data dumps that you post are likely
to have someone solve this problem as it clearly isn't an obvious
problem.

In theory, if you did a 'getent passwd'  /tmp/passwd_and_ldap
and then did a diff between that file and your /etc/passwd, the
difference should represent the entries coming from your DSA if properly
configured using the padl tools like nsswitch

I suggested that you use the GUI tools to examine accounts that are in
LDAP - those that appear in getent passwd and those that don't.

You could slapcat your DSA - delete the files and reload from the ldif
created by slapcat. Perhaps you are having problems with LDAP
storage/retrieval. Turn up your logging level on ldap

I guess that this isn't a samba issue but an ldap issue - possibly with
the other tools on your system - nscd (try turning it off).

Craig

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Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-23 Thread Chris McKeever
some more information:

if I 'getent shadow' - I can find the accounts in question, but getent
passwd just does not work - however, there are other accounts in the
LDAP, added the same way, and they show up in the 'getent passwd'


ideas?


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:39:35 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:47:43 -0700, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:34 -0600, Chris McKeever wrote:
   wondering if anyone has any suggestions on this - beating my head
   against the wall - thanks
  
  
   On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:11:48 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
thanks for the reply -
nscd is not running, nor is installed
   
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
  delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via 
  getent passwd
  any ideas??

 Is nscd running?
  
  Methinks that you should be looking at your DSA with some type of GUI
  like GQ or phpldapadmin - where you might discover subtle differences in
  the entries that are causing this behavior.
 
 
 I pulled those using ldapsearch and JAVA LDAP BROWSER = I posted the
 results a couple posts ago - as far as I can see, they look identical
 --- any ideas?  I cant seem to figure this out at all..thanks
 
 
 dn: uid=cgmckeever, ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=comdn: uid=agent-guest,
 ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=com
 objectClass: topobjectClass: top
 objectClass: person objectClass: person
 objectClass: organizationalPerson   objectClass: 
 organizationalPerson
 objectClass: inetOrgPerson  objectClass: 
 inetOrgPerson
 objectClass: accountobjectClass: account
 objectClass: posixaccount   objectClass: 
 posixaccount
 objectClass: shadowaccount  objectClass: 
 shadowaccount
 objectClass: kerberosSecurityObject objectClass: 
 kerberosSecurityObject
 objectClass: sambaAccount   objectClass: 
 sambaAccount
 sn: McKeeversn: guest
 givenName: Chris McKeever   givenName: agent guest
 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 shadowLastChange: 11761 shadowLastChange: 
 11761
 shadowMin: -1   shadowMin: -1
 shadowMax: 9shadowMax: 9
 shadowWarning: -1   shadowWarning: -1
 shadowInactive: -1  shadowInactive: -1
 shadowExpire: -1shadowExpire: -1
 shadowFlag: 7100670 shadowFlag: 7100670
 krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED] krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 loginShell: /bin/false  loginShell: /bin/false
 uidNumber: 1277 uidNumber: 49344
 gidNumber: 1002 gidNumber: 1002
 homeDirectory: /home/   homeDirectory: /home/
 gecos: Chris McKeever   gecos: agent guest
 creatorsName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com creatorsName:
 cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
 createTimestamp: 20030502214502ZcreateTimestamp: 
 20050218204327Z
 userPassword:: e01ENX1IZk8z userPassword:: 
 e01ENX01UlhmRF
 uid: cgmckeever uid: agent-guest
 pwdLastSet: 1093903956  pwdLastSet: 1108759458
 logonTime: 0logonTime: 0
 logoffTime: 0   logoffTime: 2147483647
 kickoffTime: 0  kickoffTime: 
 2147483647
 pwdCanChange: 0 pwdCanChange: 0
 displayName: Chris McKeever displayName: agent 
 guest
 cn: Chris McKeever  cn: agent guest
 rid: 3554   rid: 99688
 primaryGroupID: 3005primaryGroupID: 3005
 lmPassword: 6E265BE9lmPassword: A356673D
 ntPassword: 95A69025ntPassword: 2E6E2DA74
 acctFlags: [UX ]acctFlags: [UX
  ]
 pwdMustChange: 108696195100 pwdMustChange: 
 108696195100
 modifiersName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=commodifiersName:
 cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
 modifyTimestamp: 

Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-23 Thread Chris McKeever
final note until I knock my head against the wall  -
I can chown agent-guest file-name -- which means that the
openldap/account handshake is working -- why doesnt getent passwd see
certain accounts!??

-rw-r--r--1 agent-gu root   253465 Feb 23 16:55 getent.passwd


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:59:51 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 some more information:
 
 if I 'getent shadow' - I can find the accounts in question, but getent
 passwd just does not work - however, there are other accounts in the
 LDAP, added the same way, and they show up in the 'getent passwd'
 
 ideas?
 
 
 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:39:35 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:47:43 -0700, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:34 -0600, Chris McKeever wrote:
wondering if anyone has any suggestions on this - beating my head
against the wall - thanks
   
   
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:11:48 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 thanks for the reply -
 nscd is not running, nor is installed

 On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
   delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear 
   via getent passwd
   any ideas??
 
  Is nscd running?
   
   Methinks that you should be looking at your DSA with some type of GUI
   like GQ or phpldapadmin - where you might discover subtle differences in
   the entries that are causing this behavior.
  
 
  I pulled those using ldapsearch and JAVA LDAP BROWSER = I posted the
  results a couple posts ago - as far as I can see, they look identical
  --- any ideas?  I cant seem to figure this out at all..thanks
 
 
  dn: uid=cgmckeever, ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=comdn: uid=agent-guest,
  ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=com
  objectClass: topobjectClass: top
  objectClass: person objectClass: person
  objectClass: organizationalPerson   objectClass: 
  organizationalPerson
  objectClass: inetOrgPerson  objectClass: 
  inetOrgPerson
  objectClass: accountobjectClass: account
  objectClass: posixaccount   objectClass: 
  posixaccount
  objectClass: shadowaccount  objectClass: 
  shadowaccount
  objectClass: kerberosSecurityObject objectClass: 
  kerberosSecurityObject
  objectClass: sambaAccount   objectClass: 
  sambaAccount
  sn: McKeeversn: guest
  givenName: Chris McKeever   givenName: agent 
  guest
  mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  shadowLastChange: 11761 shadowLastChange: 
  11761
  shadowMin: -1   shadowMin: -1
  shadowMax: 9shadowMax: 9
  shadowWarning: -1   shadowWarning: -1
  shadowInactive: -1  shadowInactive: -1
  shadowExpire: -1shadowExpire: -1
  shadowFlag: 7100670 shadowFlag: 7100670
  krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED] krbName: [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]
  loginShell: /bin/false  loginShell: 
  /bin/false
  uidNumber: 1277 uidNumber: 49344
  gidNumber: 1002 gidNumber: 1002
  homeDirectory: /home/   homeDirectory: 
  /home/
  gecos: Chris McKeever   gecos: agent guest
  creatorsName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com creatorsName:
  cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
  createTimestamp: 20030502214502ZcreateTimestamp: 
  20050218204327Z
  userPassword:: e01ENX1IZk8z userPassword:: 
  e01ENX01UlhmRF
  uid: cgmckeever uid: agent-guest
  pwdLastSet: 1093903956  pwdLastSet: 
  1108759458
  logonTime: 0logonTime: 0
  logoffTime: 0   logoffTime: 
  2147483647
  kickoffTime: 0  kickoffTime: 
  2147483647
  pwdCanChange: 0 pwdCanChange: 0
  displayName: Chris McKeever displayName: agent 
  guest
  cn: Chris McKeever  cn: agent guest
  rid: 3554   rid: 99688
  primaryGroupID: 3005primaryGroupID: 3005
  

Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-23 Thread Chris McKeever
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:47:43 -0700, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:34 -0600, Chris McKeever wrote:
  wondering if anyone has any suggestions on this - beating my head
  against the wall - thanks
 
 
  On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:11:48 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   thanks for the reply -
   nscd is not running, nor is installed
  
   On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
 delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via 
 getent passwd
 any ideas??
   
Is nscd running?
 
 Methinks that you should be looking at your DSA with some type of GUI
 like GQ or phpldapadmin - where you might discover subtle differences in
 the entries that are causing this behavior.
 

I pulled those using ldapsearch and JAVA LDAP BROWSER = I posted the
results a couple posts ago - as far as I can see, they look identical
--- any ideas?  I cant seem to figure this out at all..thanks



dn: uid=cgmckeever, ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=comdn: uid=agent-guest,
ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=com
objectClass: topobjectClass: top
objectClass: person objectClass: person
objectClass: organizationalPerson   objectClass: 
organizationalPerson
objectClass: inetOrgPerson  objectClass: 
inetOrgPerson
objectClass: accountobjectClass: account
objectClass: posixaccount   objectClass: 
posixaccount
objectClass: shadowaccount  objectClass: 
shadowaccount
objectClass: kerberosSecurityObject objectClass: 
kerberosSecurityObject
objectClass: sambaAccount   objectClass: 
sambaAccount
sn: McKeeversn: guest
givenName: Chris McKeever   givenName: agent guest
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shadowLastChange: 11761 shadowLastChange: 11761 

shadowMin: -1   shadowMin: -1
shadowMax: 9shadowMax: 9
shadowWarning: -1   shadowWarning: -1
shadowInactive: -1  shadowInactive: -1
shadowExpire: -1shadowExpire: -1
shadowFlag: 7100670 shadowFlag: 7100670
krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  krbName: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
loginShell: /bin/false  loginShell: /bin/false
uidNumber: 1277 uidNumber: 49344
gidNumber: 1002 gidNumber: 1002
homeDirectory: /home/   homeDirectory: /home/
gecos: Chris McKeever   gecos: agent guest
creatorsName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com creatorsName:
cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
createTimestamp: 20030502214502ZcreateTimestamp: 
20050218204327Z
userPassword:: e01ENX1IZk8z userPassword:: 
e01ENX01UlhmRF
uid: cgmckeever uid: agent-guest
pwdLastSet: 1093903956  pwdLastSet: 1108759458  

logonTime: 0logonTime: 0

logoffTime: 0   logoffTime: 2147483647  

kickoffTime: 0  kickoffTime: 2147483647 

pwdCanChange: 0 pwdCanChange: 0
displayName: Chris McKeever displayName: agent guest
cn: Chris McKeever  cn: agent guest
rid: 3554   rid: 99688
primaryGroupID: 3005primaryGroupID: 3005
lmPassword: 6E265BE9lmPassword: A356673D
ntPassword: 95A69025ntPassword: 2E6E2DA74
acctFlags: [UX ]acctFlags: [UX ]
pwdMustChange: 108696195100 pwdMustChange: 
108696195100
modifiersName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=commodifiersName:
cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
modifyTimestamp: 20040830221237ZmodifyTimestamp: 
20050218204419Z


 There are of course limits on the number of records returned from an
 ldap query and I don't have a DSA that would reach those limits to
 conduct experiments.
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-22 Thread Chris McKeever
wondering if anyone has any suggestions on this - beating my head
against the wall - thanks


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:11:48 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for the reply -
 nscd is not running, nor is installed
 
 On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
   delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via getent 
   passwd
   any ideas??
 
  Is nscd running?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-22 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:34 -0600, Chris McKeever wrote:
 wondering if anyone has any suggestions on this - beating my head
 against the wall - thanks
 
 
 On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:11:48 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thanks for the reply -
  nscd is not running, nor is installed
  
  On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via 
getent passwd
any ideas??
  
   Is nscd running?

Methinks that you should be looking at your DSA with some type of GUI
like GQ or phpldapadmin - where you might discover subtle differences in
the entries that are causing this behavior.

There are of course limits on the number of records returned from an
ldap query and I don't have a DSA that would reach those limits to
conduct experiments.

Craig

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[Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-21 Thread Chris McKeever
with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via getent passwd

any ideas??

thanks



On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:14:04 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:22:26 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I apologize for the cross post here - but I am pulling my hair out on this 
  one.
 
  I have openldap working well integrating with the unix/samba usernames so
  getent passwd displays all the ldap accounts
 
  I had a bit of a fat finger today and nuked an account
  I rebuilt it, and for the most part everything is identical (including
  uidnumber)
  I can ldapsearch for it fine -
 
  however if I:  getent passwd | grep agent-guest , nothing appears
  yet everything that the account relies upon still seems functional --
 
  is there something that toggles it being in the output?  am I missing
  something very simple?
 
  thanks in advance -
 
  --
 
 ldap comparison - cgmckeever displays, agent-guest does not
 
 dn: uid=cgmckeever, ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=comdn: uid=agent-guest,
 ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=com
 objectClass: topobjectClass: top
 objectClass: person objectClass: person
 objectClass: organizationalPerson   objectClass: 
 organizationalPerson
 objectClass: inetOrgPerson  objectClass: 
 inetOrgPerson
 objectClass: accountobjectClass: account
 objectClass: posixaccount   objectClass: 
 posixaccount
 objectClass: shadowaccount  objectClass: 
 shadowaccount
 objectClass: kerberosSecurityObject objectClass: 
 kerberosSecurityObject
 objectClass: sambaAccount   objectClass: 
 sambaAccount
 sn: McKeeversn: guest
 givenName: Chris McKeever   givenName: agent guest
 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 shadowLastChange: 11761 shadowLastChange: 
 11761
 shadowMin: -1   shadowMin: -1
 shadowMax: 9shadowMax: 9
 shadowWarning: -1   shadowWarning: -1
 shadowInactive: -1  shadowInactive: -1
 shadowExpire: -1shadowExpire: -1
 shadowFlag: 7100670 shadowFlag: 7100670
 krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED] krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 loginShell: /bin/false  loginShell: /bin/false
 uidNumber: 1277 uidNumber: 49344
 gidNumber: 1002 gidNumber: 1002
 homeDirectory: /home/   homeDirectory: /home/
 gecos: Chris McKeever   gecos: agent guest
 creatorsName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com creatorsName:
 cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
 createTimestamp: 20030502214502ZcreateTimestamp: 
 20050218204327Z
 userPassword:: e01ENX1IZk8z userPassword:: 
 e01ENX01UlhmRF
 uid: cgmckeever uid: agent-guest
 pwdLastSet: 1093903956  pwdLastSet: 1108759458
 logonTime: 0logonTime: 0
 logoffTime: 0   logoffTime: 2147483647
 kickoffTime: 0  kickoffTime: 
 2147483647
 pwdCanChange: 0 pwdCanChange: 0
 displayName: Chris McKeever displayName: agent 
 guest
 cn: Chris McKeever  cn: agent guest
 rid: 3554   rid: 99688
 primaryGroupID: 3005primaryGroupID: 3005
 lmPassword: 6E265BE9lmPassword: A356673D
 ntPassword: 95A69025ntPassword: 2E6E2DA74
 acctFlags: [UX ]acctFlags: [UX
  ]
 pwdMustChange: 108696195100 pwdMustChange: 
 108696195100
 modifiersName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=commodifiersName:
 cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
 modifyTimestamp: 20040830221237ZmodifyTimestamp: 
 20050218204419Z
 
 
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Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
 with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
 delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via getent 
 passwd
 any ideas??

Is nscd running?




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Re: [Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-21 Thread Chris McKeever
thanks for the reply - 
nscd is not running, nor is installed 

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:57:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  with some more tinkering I was able to recreate the  issue --
  delete an account out of ldap, readd it and it will not appear via getent 
  passwd
  any ideas??
 
 Is nscd running?
 
 
 


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[Samba] Re: ldap / username issue

2005-02-18 Thread Chris McKeever
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:22:26 -0600, Chris McKeever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I apologize for the cross post here - but I am pulling my hair out on this 
 one.
 
 I have openldap working well integrating with the unix/samba usernames so
 getent passwd displays all the ldap accounts
 
 I had a bit of a fat finger today and nuked an account
 I rebuilt it, and for the most part everything is identical (including
 uidnumber)
 I can ldapsearch for it fine -
 
 however if I:  getent passwd | grep agent-guest , nothing appears
 yet everything that the account relies upon still seems functional --
 
 is there something that toggles it being in the output?  am I missing
 something very simple?
 
 thanks in advance -
 
 --

ldap comparison - cgmckeever displays, agent-guest does not


dn: uid=cgmckeever, ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=comdn: uid=agent-guest,
ou=People, dc=prupref,dc=com
objectClass: topobjectClass: top
objectClass: person objectClass: person
objectClass: organizationalPerson   objectClass: 
organizationalPerson
objectClass: inetOrgPerson  objectClass: 
inetOrgPerson
objectClass: accountobjectClass: account
objectClass: posixaccount   objectClass: 
posixaccount
objectClass: shadowaccount  objectClass: 
shadowaccount
objectClass: kerberosSecurityObject objectClass: 
kerberosSecurityObject
objectClass: sambaAccount   objectClass: 
sambaAccount
sn: McKeeversn: guest
givenName: Chris McKeever   givenName: agent guest
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shadowLastChange: 11761 shadowLastChange: 11761 

shadowMin: -1   shadowMin: -1
shadowMax: 9shadowMax: 9
shadowWarning: -1   shadowWarning: -1
shadowInactive: -1  shadowInactive: -1
shadowExpire: -1shadowExpire: -1
shadowFlag: 7100670 shadowFlag: 7100670
krbName: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  krbName: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
loginShell: /bin/false  loginShell: /bin/false
uidNumber: 1277 uidNumber: 49344
gidNumber: 1002 gidNumber: 1002
homeDirectory: /home/   homeDirectory: /home/
gecos: Chris McKeever   gecos: agent guest
creatorsName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com creatorsName:
cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
createTimestamp: 20030502214502ZcreateTimestamp: 
20050218204327Z
userPassword:: e01ENX1IZk8z userPassword:: 
e01ENX01UlhmRF
uid: cgmckeever uid: agent-guest
pwdLastSet: 1093903956  pwdLastSet: 1108759458  

logonTime: 0logonTime: 0

logoffTime: 0   logoffTime: 2147483647  

kickoffTime: 0  kickoffTime: 2147483647 

pwdCanChange: 0 pwdCanChange: 0
displayName: Chris McKeever displayName: agent guest
cn: Chris McKeever  cn: agent guest
rid: 3554   rid: 99688
primaryGroupID: 3005primaryGroupID: 3005
lmPassword: 6E265BE9lmPassword: A356673D
ntPassword: 95A69025ntPassword: 2E6E2DA74
acctFlags: [UX ]acctFlags: [UX ]
pwdMustChange: 108696195100 pwdMustChange: 
108696195100
modifiersName: cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=commodifiersName:
cn=root,dc=prupref,dc=com
modifyTimestamp: 20040830221237ZmodifyTimestamp: 
20050218204419Z





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