Besides: [Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

2004-03-15 Thread Dirk Brenckmann
Hi all,

I don't know if it's of interest...

when we were using home or profile shares with outlook.pst
files, we had massive trouble with either shares breaking
away or *.pst files getting corrupted.
I can't tell the difference between shares of the [home]/[profile]
sections and standard shares [<...>] but we fixed the problem
by setting up individual user shares (one user == one section).
Appearently we don't have the trouble now, we had before...

CU Dirk

- Original Message -
From: Matthew Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

> On Sunday 14 March 2004 05:20, Matt Janes wrote:
>  Im having
> > great diffiuculty synching the data, email, etc on my laptop and 
> desktop,> so I thought I might configure samba to act as a DC and 
> use roaming
> > profiles to make sure that my data is always synched.  My 
> question is this:
> > is it worth the effort?  
> 
> If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express for email, roaming 
> profiles in 
> their default configuration won't help you unless you are also 
> doing all your 
> mail via imap, (or perhaps running a corporate MS Exchange 
> server).  That's 
> because there is a hidden "Local Settings" folder in your profile 
> that does 
> not get synched with the server--- and that's where the email data 
> store 
> lives.  So you must move your outlook.pst file into "My Documents" 
> or 
> somewhere that DOES sync.  This can work with Outlook, but I'm not 
> sure 
> whether you can do this sort of thing with Outlook Express. And I 
> don't know 
> if this exposes you to a greater likelihood of data corruption 
> down the line.  
> Some other mail clients (Eudora for sure) will by default store 
> data in a 
> syncable location.
> 
> Roaming profiles can be annoying when your computers are very 
> different from 
> each other -- On one or the other machine, you may have startup 
> items that 
> generate error messages, and task bar shortcuts that don't work, 
> for example.
> 
> In my experience, roaming profile users occasionally find that 
> they are unable  
> to download or upload their profiles due to 'file in use' errors, 
> or filename 
> weirdness (usually netscape cache files, but also favorites, or 
> email 
> attachments.)  As the administrator of your LAN, you will be able 
> to resolve 
> these issues by moving or renaming the offending files so you 
> should consider 
> this a minor inconvenience rather than a deal-killer.
> 
> 
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Re: [Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

2004-03-15 Thread Matthew Easton
On Sunday 14 March 2004 05:20, Matt Janes wrote:
  Im having
> great diffiuculty synching the data, email, etc on my laptop and desktop,
> so I thought I might configure samba to act as a DC and use roaming
> profiles to make sure that my data is always synched.  My question is this:
> is it worth the effort?  

If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express for email, roaming profiles in 
their default configuration won't help you unless you are also doing all your 
mail via imap, (or perhaps running a corporate MS Exchange server).  That's 
because there is a hidden "Local Settings" folder in your profile that does 
not get synched with the server--- and that's where the email data store 
lives.  So you must move your outlook.pst file into "My Documents" or 
somewhere that DOES sync.  This can work with Outlook, but I'm not sure 
whether you can do this sort of thing with Outlook Express. And I don't know 
if this exposes you to a greater likelihood of data corruption down the line.  
Some other mail clients (Eudora for sure) will by default store data in a 
syncable location.

Roaming profiles can be annoying when your computers are very different from 
each other -- On one or the other machine, you may have startup items that 
generate error messages, and task bar shortcuts that don't work, for example.

In my experience, roaming profile users occasionally find that they are unable  
to download or upload their profiles due to 'file in use' errors, or filename 
weirdness (usually netscape cache files, but also favorites, or email 
attachments.)  As the administrator of your LAN, you will be able to resolve 
these issues by moving or renaming the offending files so you should consider 
this a minor inconvenience rather than a deal-killer.


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AW: [Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

2004-03-14 Thread Stumpfl Markus
Well, configuring samba as a pdc typically is not a great deal (I'm a noob
too) but if you're running into problems, you can get mad real easy :/

But I would try it.

Markus



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> Auftrag von Matt Janes
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> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I intend to run an old pentium 133 as a linux-based fileserver on my home
> network (I have to use windows for my main machine and laptop!)  Im having
> great diffiuculty synching the data, email, etc on my laptop and desktop,
> so
> I thought I might configure samba to act as a DC and use roaming profiles
> to
> make sure that my data is always synched.  My question is this: is it
> worth
> the effort?  Do you have any experience of doing so?  Im not talking about
> a
> huge network here, literally just 2 machines.  Obviously I couldnt log
> onto
> both machines at once, and Id have to be sure to log on and off with the
> laptop after a trip away from base so as to upload all relevant data to
> the
> server before logging onto to the desktop.
> 
> Im not asking for actual technical help (im a linux/samba newbie, just in
> case that wasnt obvious ;-) ), but more your thoughts on whether this
> would
> be feasible/suitable
> 
> TIA
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

2004-03-14 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Matt Janes wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> I intend to run an old pentium 133 as a linux-based fileserver on my home
> network (I have to use windows for my main machine and laptop!)  Im having
> great diffiuculty synching the data, email, etc on my laptop and desktop, so
> I thought I might configure samba to act as a DC and use roaming profiles to
> make sure that my data is always synched.
Last summer I did a setup like this for learning purposes on a
P75 with 16MB RAM and it worked (not really fast of course, but
it was ok.).
It even worked with more then two machines and users.

> My question is this: is it worth
> the effort?
Yes, if you want to learn something about Linux and networking,
but this will need some time and a lot of trial and error.

The simplier way would be to use a webmail account and to save
your files on a USB stick, which can be plugged in and out
everywhere.


Regards,

Uli.


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[Samba] Roaming profiles on a small network

2004-03-14 Thread Matt Janes
Hi list,

I intend to run an old pentium 133 as a linux-based fileserver on my home
network (I have to use windows for my main machine and laptop!)  Im having
great diffiuculty synching the data, email, etc on my laptop and desktop, so
I thought I might configure samba to act as a DC and use roaming profiles to
make sure that my data is always synched.  My question is this: is it worth
the effort?  Do you have any experience of doing so?  Im not talking about a
huge network here, literally just 2 machines.  Obviously I couldnt log onto
both machines at once, and Id have to be sure to log on and off with the
laptop after a trip away from base so as to upload all relevant data to the
server before logging onto to the desktop.

Im not asking for actual technical help (im a linux/samba newbie, just in
case that wasnt obvious ;-) ), but more your thoughts on whether this would
be feasible/suitable

TIA

Matt



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