[Samba] Samba LDAP Tools and mkntpwd

2005-12-02 Thread Collins, Kevin
I'm in the middle of Samba 3.0.9 == 3.0.14a migration testing.  Because I'm 
using newer tools, I am also using a newer verions of the Samba LDAP Tools.

My older version, 0.8.4, used the 'mkntpwd' utility to generate NT passwords.  
The new version, 0.9.1 defaults to using (what looks like) a Perl module called 
Crypt::SmbHash.

My questions: Do I need to continue to use mkntpwd?  Will I need to reset all 
the passwords for my users if I move to Crypt::SmbHash?  Or will it just work 
if I leave the defaults alone?

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Re: [Samba] Samba LDAP Tools and mkntpwd

2005-12-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:43 -0500, Collins, Kevin wrote:
 I'm in the middle of Samba 3.0.9 == 3.0.14a migration testing.  Because I'm 
 using newer tools, I am also using a newer verions of the Samba LDAP Tools.
 
 My older version, 0.8.4, used the 'mkntpwd' utility to generate NT passwords. 
  The new version, 0.9.1 defaults to using (what looks like) a Perl module 
 called Crypt::SmbHash.
 
 My questions: Do I need to continue to use mkntpwd?  Will I need to reset all 
 the passwords for my users if I move to Crypt::SmbHash?  Or will it just 
 work if I leave the defaults alone?

I think that an smb hashed password is going to be an smb hashed
password regardless of the tool used to create it. Otherwise, how could
the Windows user log in?

Craig

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Re: [Samba] Samba LDAP Tools and mkntpwd

2005-12-02 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:53 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:43 -0500, Collins, Kevin wrote:
  I'm in the middle of Samba 3.0.9 == 3.0.14a migration testing.  Because 
  I'm using newer tools, I am also using a newer verions of the Samba LDAP 
  Tools.
  
  My older version, 0.8.4, used the 'mkntpwd' utility to generate NT 
  passwords.  The new version, 0.9.1 defaults to using (what looks like) a 
  Perl module called Crypt::SmbHash.
  
  My questions: Do I need to continue to use mkntpwd?  Will I need to reset 
  all the passwords for my users if I move to Crypt::SmbHash?  Or will it 
  just work if I leave the defaults alone?
 
 I think that an smb hashed password is going to be an smb hashed
 password regardless of the tool used to create it. Otherwise, how could
 the Windows user log in?

Yes.  One is a perl port of the C routines, while the older mkntwpd is
just that particular C file compiled standalone.

If the perl code does the unicode translation right, it might even be
more accurate for non-ASCII.

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] Samba LDAP Tools and mkntpwd

2005-12-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 09:10 +1100, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:53 -0700, Craig White wrote:
  On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:43 -0500, Collins, Kevin wrote:
   I'm in the middle of Samba 3.0.9 == 3.0.14a migration testing.  Because 
   I'm using newer tools, I am also using a newer verions of the Samba LDAP 
   Tools.
   
   My older version, 0.8.4, used the 'mkntpwd' utility to generate NT 
   passwords.  The new version, 0.9.1 defaults to using (what looks like) a 
   Perl module called Crypt::SmbHash.
   
   My questions: Do I need to continue to use mkntpwd?  Will I need to reset 
   all the passwords for my users if I move to Crypt::SmbHash?  Or will it 
   just work if I leave the defaults alone?
  
  I think that an smb hashed password is going to be an smb hashed
  password regardless of the tool used to create it. Otherwise, how could
  the Windows user log in?
 
 Yes.  One is a perl port of the C routines, while the older mkntwpd is
 just that particular C file compiled standalone.
 
 If the perl code does the unicode translation right, it might even be
 more accurate for non-ASCII.

my experiences with perl is that this is never a given.

;-)

Craig

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