Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 07:40, Eric Roseme wrote: Attached is a 500KB read-only .doc file with a Samba and Terminal Server whitepaper. I have tried to hit every known issue and all available workarounds. If anyone has comments or suggestions, let me know. JT has it, so it should end up in the next How-To. Sorry about the file format, but the .pdf was 2.5MB, which I thought was too big to post. I found there were a number of things in this paper that should be updated for 3.0, or are less than accurate. The first is the issue of 'session users'. How have you found that variable impacting on operations? As far as I know, it's use is only to support 'security=share', and apart from some noise in the logs, it should have no impact on terminal server operations. (Then again, I've been in 3.0 land for a long time, and in 2.2 it can get scary...) Also all the 'list' parameters in Samba 3.0 are now handled as real lists, so do not suffer from the 1024 character limit. In environments where WINS may be controlled, I would also suggest the use of static wins entries, or 'dns proxy' and multiple CNAME records for the terminal server. Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Authentication Subsystems, Samba Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student Network Administrator, Hawker College [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://samba.org http://build.samba.org http://hawkerc.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
Ok, I have had a preview of the document. The Terminal Server issues are as far as I can see all covered except one. This issue is related to a Solaris 32 bit application limitation. I do not know if HP-UX got this limitation aswell as our HP-UX samba userload is not high enough to reach this limitaion (if any). Here is a Sun statement which describes the problem: For a 32-bit application, a stdio library FILE structure represents the underlying file descriptor as an unsigned char, limiting the range of fds which can be opened as FILE's to 0-255 inclusive. A common, known problem is that when the 32-bit stdio is used for a large server application, the 255 limit is frequently exceeded. Although this limitation does not exist for 64-bit applications, this problem will always remain for 32-bit applications. Without the netbios or hosts 'fix' described in Erics whitepaper one would easily reach this limitation. The samba server smbd process for this TS would have a large amount of open files ( 256). To solve this on Solaris we compiled the samba source with the gcc -m64 option making the samba binaries 64 bit and increased the default settings for max file descriptors in /etc/system. Is this something which should be added in some sort of documentation/whitepaper? Sorry about the Terminal Server Whitepaper attachment fiasco. HP will host both the Samba and the HP CIFS Server versions at Attached is a 500KB read-only .doc file with a Samba and Terminal Server whitepaper. I have tried to hit every known issue and all available workarounds. If anyone has comments or suggestions, let me know. JT Regards Per Kjetil Grotnes -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
Am Montag, 26. Januar 2004 23:52 schrieb Eric Roseme: HP will host both the Samba and the HP CIFS Server versions at www.docs.hp.com on January 30th. ...but I want it _now_ ! ;-) Regards Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 19:25, Per Kjetil Grotnes wrote: Ok, I have had a preview of the document. The Terminal Server issues are as far as I can see all covered except one. This issue is related to a Solaris 32 bit application limitation. I do not know if HP-UX got this limitation aswell as our HP-UX samba userload is not high enough to reach this limitaion (if any). Here is a Sun statement which describes the problem: For a 32-bit application, a stdio library FILE structure represents the underlying file descriptor as an unsigned char, limiting the range of fds which can be opened as FILE's to 0-255 inclusive. Is this something which should be added in some sort of documentation/whitepaper? Samba 3.0 has a re-implementation of FILE, known as X_FILE, which does not suffer from this limitation. Unless of course some poor library is using FILE... Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Authentication Subsystems, Samba Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student Network Administrator, Hawker College [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://samba.org http://build.samba.org http://hawkerc.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:25:39AM +0100, Per Kjetil Grotnes wrote: Ok, I have had a preview of the document. The Terminal Server issues are as far as I can see all covered except one. This issue is related to a Solaris 32 bit application limitation. I do not know if HP-UX got this limitation aswell as our HP-UX samba userload is not high enough to reach this limitaion (if any). Here is a Sun statement which describes the problem: For a 32-bit application, a stdio library FILE structure represents the underlying file descriptor as an unsigned char, limiting the range of fds which can be opened as FILE's to 0-255 inclusive. A common, known problem is that when the 32-bit stdio is used for a large server application, the 255 limit is frequently exceeded. Although this limitation does not exist for 64-bit applications, this problem will always remain for 32-bit applications. No, this is a Solaris only bug. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
It is available now, with the permission of Eric. Here: http://swflug.org/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=4 -- Bert Rapp North Trail RV Center p 239.693.8200 f 239.693.8115 Quoting Dan Am [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Montag, 26. Januar 2004 23:52 schrieb Eric Roseme: HP will host both the Samba and the HP CIFS Server versions at www.docs.hp.com on January 30th. ...but I want it _now_ ! ;-) Regards Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
Eric, I'd be interested in reading this. I'll even offer space to host it at www.swfglug.org if you'd like. You can email it directly to me and I'll make it available via http for everyone. -- Bert Rapp North Trail RV Center p 239.693.8200 f 239.693.8115 Quoting Tim Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:40:00PM -0800, Eric Roseme wrote: Attached is a 500KB read-only .doc file with a Samba and Terminal Server whitepaper. I have tried to hit every known issue and all available workarounds. If anyone has comments or suggestions, let me know. JT has it, so it should end up in the next How-To. Sorry about the file format, but the .pdf was 2.5MB, which I thought was too big to post. Whoops - the attachment was stripped by mailman. Eric, can you post a link to the document? 700KB (base64) is a little bit on the large side for the list. Tim. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 08:55:27PM +1100, Tim Potter wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:40:00PM -0800, Eric Roseme wrote: Attached is a 500KB read-only .doc file with a Samba and Terminal Server whitepaper. I have tried to hit every known issue and all available workarounds. If anyone has comments or suggestions, let me know. JT has it, so it should end up in the next How-To. Sorry about the file format, but the .pdf was 2.5MB, which I thought was too big to post. Whoops - the attachment was stripped by mailman. Eric, can you post a link to the document? 700KB (base64) is a little bit on the large side for the list. Either that or load it in OpenOffice (Eric, it's free, you really should look into it ! :-) and then save as an OpenOffice document. They are typically *much* smaller than .doc files, plus they have the benefits of being cross-platform over Windows/Linux/MacOSX. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Terminal Server Whitepaper
Sorry about the Terminal Server Whitepaper attachment fiasco. HP will host both the Samba and the HP CIFS Server versions at www.docs.hp.com on January 30th. I'll post the actual url here. The versions are identical except for the nomenclature (hope I spelled that right). One of the list members will host it too - probably sooner. He will send out an announcement. Eric Roseme Hewlett-Packard Tim Potter wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:40:00PM -0800, Eric Roseme wrote: Attached is a 500KB read-only .doc file with a Samba and Terminal Server whitepaper. I have tried to hit every known issue and all available workarounds. If anyone has comments or suggestions, let me know. JT has it, so it should end up in the next How-To. Sorry about the file format, but the .pdf was 2.5MB, which I thought was too big to post. Whoops - the attachment was stripped by mailman. Eric, can you post a link to the document? 700KB (base64) is a little bit on the large side for the list. Tim. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
