Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-07 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 07:48 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
 Hallo, Andrew,
 
 Du meintest am 04.02.11:
 
  Just for curiousity: I prefer dnsmasq as nameserver; do you support
  this program too?
 
  No.  BIND is the only server that will support the range of functions
  Samba requires.
 
 That doesn't please me - sorry.
 
  I know BIND has a bad name in some minds, but we did look and there
  is no suitable alternative.  I also don't think BIND deserves the
  reputation it has gained, but that's just my opinion.
 
 Perhaps you should ask at least the maintainer(s) of dnsmasq for some  
 additions. ISC-named is a monster.

We did.
http://lists.thekelleys.org.uk/pipermail/dnsmasq-discuss/2010q1/003552.html

In short, no, it's not a viable option.  

On the basis of that discussion and other research, Kai and Metze
started writing Samba4's own DNS server.  Then tridge and the BIND folks
got together, and given the excellent progress made, not reinventing
this particular wheel seems to be the best way forward at the moment. 

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-07 Thread Chris Smith
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Andrew Bartlett abart...@samba.org wrote:
 On the basis of that discussion and other research, Kai and Metze
 started writing Samba4's own DNS server.  Then tridge and the BIND folks
 got together, and given the excellent progress made, not reinventing
 this particular wheel seems to be the best way forward at the moment.

How about NSD? Or something to interface with it to provide what's
missing. I'm sure it supports all of the record types.

Chris
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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-03 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 07:58 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
 Hallo, Andrew,
 
 Du meintest am 03.02.11:
 
  Is it possible to use a seperate BIND server instead? I'd like to
  not run BIND on my file server.
 
  This isn't recommended.  In future versions of Samba4, we will
  support BIND 9.8 and a plugin that will directly read and write our
  database, to support GSSTSIG dynamic updates and to allow multiple
  DNS servers in the domain.  This will need to be on a real DC.
 
 Just for curiousity: I prefer dnsmasq as nameserver; do you support this  
 program too?

No.  BIND is the only server that will support the range of functions
Samba requires.  

I know BIND has a bad name in some minds, but we did look and there is
no suitable alternative.  I also don't think BIND deserves the
reputation it has gained, but that's just my opinion. 

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-03 Thread Helmut Hullen
Hallo, Andrew,

Du meintest am 04.02.11:

 Just for curiousity: I prefer dnsmasq as nameserver; do you support
 this program too?

 No.  BIND is the only server that will support the range of functions
 Samba requires.

That doesn't please me - sorry.

 I know BIND has a bad name in some minds, but we did look and there
 is no suitable alternative.  I also don't think BIND deserves the
 reputation it has gained, but that's just my opinion.

Perhaps you should ask at least the maintainer(s) of dnsmasq for some  
additions. ISC-named is a monster.

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut
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[Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-02 Thread Amaru Netapshaak


Hello!

I've set up samba 4 with great success since alpha12, but i've always used a 
locally installed version of BIND.  

Is it possible to use a seperate BIND server instead? I'd like to not run BIND 
on my file server.

I have not seen any instructions to this effect, so perhaps someone would 
please 
point me in the
correct direction?  

Thank You Very Much!!

++AMARU


  
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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-02 Thread tms3







Hello!

I've set up samba 4 with great success since alpha12, but i've always 
used a

locally installed version of BIND.

Is it possible to use a seperate BIND server instead? I'd like to not 
run BIND

on my file server.


Yes. That's how I set up mine.




I have not seen any instructions to this effect, so perhaps someone 
would please

point me in the
correct direction?

Thank You Very Much!!

++AMARU



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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-02 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 11:24 -0800, Amaru Netapshaak wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 I've set up samba 4 with great success since alpha12, but i've always used a 
 locally installed version of BIND.  
 
 Is it possible to use a seperate BIND server instead? I'd like to not run 
 BIND 
 on my file server.

This isn't recommended.  In future versions of Samba4, we will support
BIND 9.8 and a plugin that will directly read and write our database, to
support GSSTSIG dynamic updates and to allow multiple DNS servers in the
domain.  This will need to be on a real DC.

Certainly it is possible to run a distinct DNS server with BIND, but I
don't recommend it.  You would have to ensure that you copied all the
correct files across, and updated the zone manually for the changed
nameserver IPs etc. 

Samba4 should probably not be your file server at this stage, but if
security is your worry then of course the AD DC is the heart of that.  

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] Seperate BIND server for Samba 4

2011-02-02 Thread Helmut Hullen
Hallo, Andrew,

Du meintest am 03.02.11:

 Is it possible to use a seperate BIND server instead? I'd like to
 not run BIND on my file server.

 This isn't recommended.  In future versions of Samba4, we will
 support BIND 9.8 and a plugin that will directly read and write our
 database, to support GSSTSIG dynamic updates and to allow multiple
 DNS servers in the domain.  This will need to be on a real DC.

Just for curiousity: I prefer dnsmasq as nameserver; do you support this  
program too?

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut
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