Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
Just one final note: The driver on the Win2K CD doesn't support duplex printing, but the one on the HP site for the 970 series does. Interface very much like the G85 driver, but this one works with Samba. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:57:55 -0500, you wrote: Found what looks like an acceptable workaround: the HP Deskjet 970Cse driver that comes with Windows 2000 seems to work OK with the G85 and point n print. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more information: I did some extensive googling and found at least two other (unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers. In March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction device, not using CUPS: (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db). The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via point and print. I think this establishes this as a Samba bug. It happens with different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and different drivers. Samba is the only common factor. The line on the first page begins like this: @ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square and ends like this: smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name overstriked-characters (The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail) Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer name is upper case both times. I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which only a small number of Windows drivers have. I wonder if this might be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue. So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named \\server\printer and set the printer to that port. Unfortunately that makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs than all the other printers shared by Samba. On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. snip If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. snip The first page with @PJL etc. Not seeing anything like PJL. Most are foreign characters or symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer? Bytes go in, same bytes go out? Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly cooked, perhaps? ;) ) not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with a raw queue. Since the raw queue works with a manually installed Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports the driver upload, or how it handles the smb. I know little about smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a printer UNC to be removed. Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't: Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer appears in the local machine's Printers folder. Use it and you get garbage out. Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba Printer Port. Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to provide the driver upload. Install the same
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
A little more information: I did some extensive googling and found at least two other (unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers. In March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction device, not using CUPS: (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db). The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via point and print. I think this establishes this as a Samba bug. It happens with different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and different drivers. Samba is the only common factor. The line on the first page begins like this: @ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square and ends like this: smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name overstriked-characters (The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail) Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer name is upper case both times. I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which only a small number of Windows drivers have. I wonder if this might be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue. So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named \\server\printer and set the printer to that port. Unfortunately that makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs than all the other printers shared by Samba. On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. snip If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. snip The first page with @PJL etc. Not seeing anything like PJL. Most are foreign characters or symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer? Bytes go in, same bytes go out? Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly cooked, perhaps? ;) ) not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with a raw queue. Since the raw queue works with a manually installed Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports the driver upload, or how it handles the smb. I know little about smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a printer UNC to be removed. Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't: Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer appears in the local machine's Printers folder. Use it and you get garbage out. Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba Printer Port. Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to provide the driver upload. Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the printer UNC and OK everything. Use it and it works. So what exactly is the difference between these two ways of using the same Samba share? -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
Trying to investigate this some more, I would like to have Samba send the output to a file, rather than pass it to CUPS, so I can look at the file; or, prevent CUPS from deleting its spool file. Is there a way to do this? On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more information: I did some extensive googling and found at least two other (unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers. In March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction device, not using CUPS: (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db). The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via point and print. I think this establishes this as a Samba bug. It happens with different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and different drivers. Samba is the only common factor. The line on the first page begins like this: @ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square and ends like this: smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name overstriked-characters (The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail) Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer name is upper case both times. I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which only a small number of Windows drivers have. I wonder if this might be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue. So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named \\server\printer and set the printer to that port. Unfortunately that makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs than all the other printers shared by Samba. On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. snip If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. snip The first page with @PJL etc. Not seeing anything like PJL. Most are foreign characters or symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer? Bytes go in, same bytes go out? Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly cooked, perhaps? ;) ) not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with a raw queue. Since the raw queue works with a manually installed Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports the driver upload, or how it handles the smb. I know little about smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a printer UNC to be removed. Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't: Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer appears in the local machine's Printers folder. Use it and you get garbage out. Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba Printer Port. Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to provide the driver upload. Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the printer UNC and
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
Found what looks like an acceptable workaround: the HP Deskjet 970Cse driver that comes with Windows 2000 seems to work OK with the G85 and point n print. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more information: I did some extensive googling and found at least two other (unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers. In March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction device, not using CUPS: (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db). The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via point and print. I think this establishes this as a Samba bug. It happens with different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and different drivers. Samba is the only common factor. The line on the first page begins like this: @ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square and ends like this: smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name overstriked-characters (The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail) Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer name is upper case both times. I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which only a small number of Windows drivers have. I wonder if this might be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue. So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named \\server\printer and set the printer to that port. Unfortunately that makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs than all the other printers shared by Samba. On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. snip If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. snip The first page with @PJL etc. Not seeing anything like PJL. Most are foreign characters or symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer? Bytes go in, same bytes go out? Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly cooked, perhaps? ;) ) not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with a raw queue. Since the raw queue works with a manually installed Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports the driver upload, or how it handles the smb. I know little about smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a printer UNC to be removed. Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't: Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer appears in the local machine's Printers folder. Use it and you get garbage out. Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba Printer Port. Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to provide the driver upload. Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the printer UNC and OK everything. Use it and it works. So what exactly is the
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. snip If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. snip The first page with @PJL etc. Not seeing anything like PJL. Most are foreign characters or symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer? Bytes go in, same bytes go out? Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly cooked, perhaps? ;) ) not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with a raw queue. Since the raw queue works with a manually installed Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports the driver upload, or how it handles the smb. I know little about smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a printer UNC to be removed. Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't: Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer appears in the local machine's Printers folder. Use it and you get garbage out. Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba Printer Port. Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to provide the driver upload. Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the printer UNC and OK everything. Use it and it works. So what exactly is the difference between these two ways of using the same Samba share? -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install program. Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files and copy them manually to the Linux box. Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much defeats the driver download feature. Incidentally, the documentation on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet. The docs should probably be updated for this. If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it. Not sure why this happens with the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one. I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't require a manual install of the driver on each workstation. Can anyone suggest how to get this to work? -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? The only replies I got were automated vacation responses. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote: Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install program. Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files and copy them manually to the Linux box. Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much defeats the driver download feature. Incidentally, the documentation on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet. The docs should probably be updated for this. If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it. Not sure why this happens with the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one. I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't require a manual install of the driver on each workstation. Can anyone suggest how to get this to work? I let this go because I always struggle with cups, eventually get it to work and then am never convinced that I knew what it was exactly that I did to make it work. Generally, the thing that seems to work for me is to get the printer working ideally on Linux first. The HP printers typically want to use hpijs.ppd - this sets the proper rasterizer function. Using Red Hat (RHEL or Fedora), I can't use both text editors and wizards as the wizards will surely cream any hand entries so I have to stick with one of the other and so I've given up with hand editing and just use the wizards (sounds defeatist, I know). The first page with @PJL etc. is HP's page description language coming through and the rasterizer not knowing how to deal with it. My understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure that this is a samba question/problem at all. Craig -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download
Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same time. The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install program. Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files and copy them manually to the Linux box. Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much defeats the driver download feature. Incidentally, the documentation on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet. The docs should probably be updated for this. If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank or just one line of garbage. The first page has a line which begins with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley face and various other odd characters. The URL appears to repeat near the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room on the right. My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it. Not sure why this happens with the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one. I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't require a manual install of the driver on each workstation. Can anyone suggest how to get this to work? -- Don Stauffer, Office Manager Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba