Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-26 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
Just one final note: The driver on the Win2K CD doesn't support duplex
printing, but the one on the HP site for the 970 series does.
Interface very much like the G85 driver, but this one works with
Samba.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:57:55 -0500, you wrote:

Found what looks like an acceptable workaround: the HP Deskjet 970Cse
driver that comes with Windows 2000 seems to work OK with the G85 and
point n print.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child
Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A little more information:

I did some extensive googling and found at least two other
(unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers.  In
March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction
device, not using CUPS:
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db).
The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with
all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via
point and print.

I think this establishes this as a Samba bug.  It happens with
different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and
different drivers.  Samba is the only common factor.

The line on the first page begins like this:

@ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square

and ends like this:

smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name
overstriked-characters

(The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail)

Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time
and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer
name is upper case both times.

I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which
only a small number of Windows drivers have.  I wonder if this might
be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue.

So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as
local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named
\\server\printer and set the printer to that port.  Unfortunately that
makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs
than all the other printers shared by Samba.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.

snip

 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.

snip

The first page with @PJL etc.

Not seeing anything like PJL.  Most are foreign characters or
symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice.

 is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer

Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer?  Bytes go in, same bytes
go out?  Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly
cooked, perhaps? ;) )

not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data
after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with
a raw queue.  Since the raw queue works with a manually installed
Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my
thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports
the driver upload, or how it handles the smb.  I know little about
smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a
printer UNC to be removed.

Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't:

Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer
appears in the local machine's Printers folder.  Use it and you get
garbage out.  Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba
Printer Port.  Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to
provide the driver upload.

Install the same 

Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-23 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
A little more information:

I did some extensive googling and found at least two other
(unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers.  In
March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction
device, not using CUPS:
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db).
The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with
all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via
point and print.

I think this establishes this as a Samba bug.  It happens with
different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and
different drivers.  Samba is the only common factor.

The line on the first page begins like this:

@ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square

and ends like this:

smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name
overstriked-characters

(The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail)

Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time
and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer
name is upper case both times.

I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which
only a small number of Windows drivers have.  I wonder if this might
be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue.

So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as
local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named
\\server\printer and set the printer to that port.  Unfortunately that
makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs
than all the other printers shared by Samba.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.

snip

 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.

snip

The first page with @PJL etc.

Not seeing anything like PJL.  Most are foreign characters or
symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice.

 is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer

Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer?  Bytes go in, same bytes
go out?  Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly
cooked, perhaps? ;) )

not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data
after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with
a raw queue.  Since the raw queue works with a manually installed
Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my
thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports
the driver upload, or how it handles the smb.  I know little about
smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a
printer UNC to be removed.

Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't:

Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer
appears in the local machine's Printers folder.  Use it and you get
garbage out.  Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba
Printer Port.  Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to
provide the driver upload.

Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's
Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose
Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the
printer UNC and OK everything.  Use it and it works.

So what exactly is the difference between these two ways of using the
same Samba share?
-- 
Don Stauffer, Office Manager
Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.

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Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.
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Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-23 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
Trying to investigate this some more, I would like to have Samba  send
the output to a file, rather than pass it to CUPS, so I can look at
the file; or, prevent CUPS from deleting its spool file.

Is there a way to do this?

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child
Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A little more information:

I did some extensive googling and found at least two other
(unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers.  In
March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction
device, not using CUPS:
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db).
The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with
all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via
point and print.

I think this establishes this as a Samba bug.  It happens with
different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and
different drivers.  Samba is the only common factor.

The line on the first page begins like this:

@ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square

and ends like this:

smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name
overstriked-characters

(The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail)

Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time
and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer
name is upper case both times.

I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which
only a small number of Windows drivers have.  I wonder if this might
be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue.

So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as
local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named
\\server\printer and set the printer to that port.  Unfortunately that
makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs
than all the other printers shared by Samba.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.

snip

 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.

snip

The first page with @PJL etc.

Not seeing anything like PJL.  Most are foreign characters or
symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice.

 is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer

Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer?  Bytes go in, same bytes
go out?  Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly
cooked, perhaps? ;) )

not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data
after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with
a raw queue.  Since the raw queue works with a manually installed
Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my
thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports
the driver upload, or how it handles the smb.  I know little about
smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a
printer UNC to be removed.

Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't:

Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer
appears in the local machine's Printers folder.  Use it and you get
garbage out.  Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba
Printer Port.  Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to
provide the driver upload.

Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's
Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose
Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the
printer UNC and 

Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-23 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
Found what looks like an acceptable workaround: the HP Deskjet 970Cse
driver that comes with Windows 2000 seems to work OK with the G85 and
point n print.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:20:03 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child
Neurology [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A little more information:

I did some extensive googling and found at least two other
(unresolved) reports of the same problem, with different printers.  In
March, somebody named Zylo reported this with a Canon multifunction
device, not using CUPS:
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.samba/browse_thread/thread/22e74e042bd05e1d/7c0627d93b0041db?q=samba+print+spool+name+smiley_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dsamba+print+spool+name+smiley%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D2005%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#7c0627d93b0041db).
The only response was Rainer Janson reporting the same problem with
all Canon image-runner-systems with canon ps drivers installed via
point and print.

I think this establishes this as a Samba bug.  It happens with
different spoolers, different printers, different distros, and
different drivers.  Samba is the only common factor.

The line on the first page begins like this:

@ ASCII-128 \\my-server\my-printer smiley diamond square

and ends like this:

smiley \\my-server\my-printer part-of-my-document-name
overstriked-characters

(The ASCII-128 character looks like a capital C with a tail)

Oddly the first letter of the server name is lowercase the first time
and uppercase the second time, but the first letter of the printer
name is upper case both times.

I'm beginning to think that Samba doesn't handle some behavior which
only a small number of Windows drivers have.  I wonder if this might
be a case-sensitivity issue, or maybe a CR vs CR-LF issue.

So far the only workaround I've found is to install the printer as
local on the Windows machine, then add a local port named
\\server\printer and set the printer to that port.  Unfortunately that
makes the form of printer name different in printer selection dialogs
than all the other printers shared by Samba.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:11:50 -0500, you wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.

snip

 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.

snip

The first page with @PJL etc.

Not seeing anything like PJL.  Most are foreign characters or
symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice.

 is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer

Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer?  Bytes go in, same bytes
go out?  Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly
cooked, perhaps? ;) )

not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data
after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with
a raw queue.  Since the raw queue works with a manually installed
Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my
thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports
the driver upload, or how it handles the smb.  I know little about
smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a
printer UNC to be removed.

Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't:

Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer
appears in the local machine's Printers folder.  Use it and you get
garbage out.  Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba
Printer Port.  Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to
provide the driver upload.

Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's
Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose
Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the
printer UNC and OK everything.  Use it and it works.

So what exactly is the 

Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-17 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:43:24 -0700, you wrote:

On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.

snip

 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.

snip

The first page with @PJL etc.

Not seeing anything like PJL.  Most are foreign characters or
symbols, except for the printer UNC, which appears twice.

 is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer

Raw queue; doesn't that mean no rasterizer?  Bytes go in, same bytes
go out?  Maybe that's the problem: maybe queue is not so raw (slightly
cooked, perhaps? ;) )

not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

Samba shouldn't do anything much (other than reassembling the data
after decoding the smb), and neither should CUPS when configured with
a raw queue.  Since the raw queue works with a manually installed
Windows driver, but not with the one uploaded to Windows by Samba, my
thinking is Samba is doing something wrong, either in how it supports
the driver upload, or how it handles the smb.  I know little about
smb, but being a network protocol, it is the logical place to expect a
printer UNC to be removed.

Here's the difference between what works and what doesn't:

Right click the shared printer and choose connect, and a printer
appears in the local machine's Printers folder.  Use it and you get
garbage out.  Look at its Properties page, Ports tab, you see Samba
Printer Port.  Of course to do this I had to first configure Samba to
provide the driver upload.

Install the same printer driver using the local Printers folder's
Add Printer wizard, then in its Properties page, Ports tab, choose
Add Port, click Local Port, then New Port, then enter the
printer UNC and OK everything.  Use it and it works.

So what exactly is the difference between these two ways of using the
same Samba share?
-- 
Don Stauffer, Office Manager
Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.
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Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-16 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
Does anyone have a suggestion?

The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:

Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
time.

The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install
program.  Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files
and copy them manually to the Linux box.

Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver
and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much
defeats the driver download feature.  Incidentally, the documentation
on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports
tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet.  The docs should
probably be updated for this.

If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
on the right.

My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the
data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because
CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it.  Not sure why this happens with
the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one.

I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't
require a manual install of the driver on each workstation.  Can
anyone suggest how to get this to work?
-- 
Don Stauffer, Office Manager
Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.

-- 
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Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.
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Re: [Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-16 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 19:35 -0500, Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion?
 
 The only replies I got were automated vacation responses.
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:27:52 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
 to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
 work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
 time.
 
 The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install
 program.  Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files
 and copy them manually to the Linux box.
 
 Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver
 and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much
 defeats the driver download feature.  Incidentally, the documentation
 on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports
 tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet.  The docs should
 probably be updated for this.
 
 If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
 just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
 or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
 with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
 URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
 face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
 the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
 on the right.
 
 My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the
 data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because
 CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it.  Not sure why this happens with
 the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one.
 
 I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't
 require a manual install of the driver on each workstation.  Can
 anyone suggest how to get this to work?

I let this go because I always struggle with cups, eventually get it to
work and then am never convinced that I knew what it was exactly that I
did to make it work.

Generally, the thing that seems to work for me is to get the printer
working ideally on Linux first. The HP printers typically want to use
hpijs.ppd  -  this sets the proper rasterizer function.

Using Red Hat (RHEL or Fedora), I can't use both text editors and
wizards as the wizards will surely cream any hand entries so I have to
stick with one of the other and so I've given up with hand editing and
just use the wizards (sounds defeatist, I know).

The first page with @PJL etc. is HP's page description language coming
through and the rasterizer not knowing how to deal with it. My
understanding is that Samba doesn't do much with printing other than
apply ACL's and pass through to the cups facility. In fact, I'm not sure
that this is a samba question/problem at all.

Craig

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[Samba] Win2K. Raw CUPS printing, driver download

2005-01-12 Thread Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology
Using Debian Sarge, samba, CUPS, and an HP G85 mutifunction with HPOJ
to use the G85 USB connection, I've been able to get raw printing to
work, and Point 'n' Print driver download to work, but not at the same
time.

The driver download was a chore, because of HP's proprietary install
program.  Had to install the driver locally to get the needed files
and copy them manually to the Linux box.

Raw printing didn't work unless I did a local install of the driver
and created a new port named //server/printer, which pretty much
defeats the driver download feature.  Incidentally, the documentation
on doing this refers to the Details tab, but it's really the Ports
tab in the Win2K printer driver Properties sheet.  The docs should
probably be updated for this.

If I use the driver download, the output from a WordPad document with
just the word test spits out multiple pages, each being either blank
or just one line of garbage.  The first page has a line which begins
with @ and character like a capital C with a tail, then the printer
URL in the form \\server\printer, cut off near the end by a smiley
face and various other odd characters.  The URL appears to repeat near
the end of the line but is cut off when the printer runs out of room
on the right.

My thinking is that the printer URL must be an artifact of sending the
data over the network, and that samba should be removing it, because
CUPS wouldn't know what to do with it.  Not sure why this happens with
the downloaded driver but not the locally installed one.

I would prefer to use the driver download feature, since it doesn't
require a manual install of the driver on each workstation.  Can
anyone suggest how to get this to work?
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Don Stauffer, Office Manager
Indiana Epilepsy and Child Neurology, Inc.
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