Re: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions

2003-03-10 Thread Kurt Weiss
brock,
i did talk with my partner:
he had a view issues, in which file access did strange things with file 
access. - *but on a local installation too*.

can u test a clean local installation on a w2k too?

autocad opens files across different threats. - maybe one of the arx is 
to slow with closing or opens the file in a mode, that w2k interpretes 
as 'exclusive'?. (maybe there's a switch in your options.

as far as i see now, u *must* use oplocks. - many threats opens one file 
at the same time.

please try:
http://usa.autodesk.com/
support knowledgebase - i've found a view issues, but the best is, to 
search with the command name and the exact error message. (i did not 
find this in your posting)

try to set temp files to local hdd.

if u find something and let me know.
but at this time i don't think, that it's a network issue.
gk

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RE: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions

2003-03-10 Thread Brock Nanson
Hi Kurt,

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: March 10, 2003 2:53 AM
 To: Brock Nanson
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions
 
 
 brock,
 i did talk with my partner:
 
 he had a view issues, in which file access did strange things 
 with file 
 access. - *but on a local installation too*.

This can be the case, for sure!  However, I have that all cleaned up.
The project works fine except for this single command - which does work
properly if the project folders are copied to and run from the local
drive.  Samba has always been transparent for us... No Word/Excel
issues, AutoCAD is fine too - except for this command!

 can u test a clean local installation on a w2k too?

This is a clean install of Land3 (we only just received the install CD's
and haven't made the full transition from Land2i yet).  I'm going to
create a testing samba share to deal with this... Too much data to be
playing with on the real server!
 
 autocad opens files across different threats. - maybe one of 
 the arx is 
 to slow with closing or opens the file in a mode, that w2k 
 interpretes 
 as 'exclusive'?. (maybe there's a switch in your options.

This is along the lines of my thinking.  It's like AutoCAD is just
misconfigured on this one routine. The options for Land are minimal in
this area.  I can't find a setting for placement of this temporary file
- neither can my supplier.  The other temp settings don't seem to apply
to this routine.

 as far as i see now, u *must* use oplocks. - many threats 
 opens one file 
 at the same time.

I agree.  I removed the setting you suggested earlier once I knew it
didn't work.

 please try:
 http://usa.autodesk.com/
 support knowledgebase - i've found a view issues, but the best is, to 
 search with the command name and the exact error message. (i did not 
 find this in your posting)

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt ;-)
 
 try to set temp files to local hdd.
 
 if u find something and let me know.
 but at this time i don't think, that it's a network issue.

I will keep you apprised.  I think there is a hint in the fact that I
can kill the samba daemons, immediately restart and the command works
properly.  But I do get an error when I try to save the drawing!

Thanks!

Brock

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RE: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions

2003-03-09 Thread Brock Nanson
Hi Kurt,

Thanks very much for the reply.  My comments are inline...

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: March 8, 2003 12:06 AM
 To: Brock Nanson
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions
 
 
 Brock Nanson schrieb:
  I first asked this question at the end of October, got a response 
  which didn't solve the problem, and have finally got back 
 to the issue 
  now.
  
 
 there where the same problem with excel/winword files 
 anywhere, i think 
 there should be much to read in the archives :-(
 
  -I can view the directory and see the temporary file in it, called 
  $cvp$tp.dwg. -Allowing the command to complete, the file is 
 removed as 
  it should be.
  
 
 to find out, where the problem lies, please try
 oplocks = no
 afterwards u can try
 dos filetime resolution = yes
 dos filetimes = yes

Tried all three of these settings.  Was forced to set 'level2 oplocks'
to 'no' as well, as testparm flagged this as being required.  However,
no joy from any or all of these settings :-(

 LanDevelopment Desktop seems to use more threads, and one 
 does not know, 
 what the other does. ('cause, there's running very much arx 
 applications.) did u look to the autodesk hompage too? (maybe 
 thats an issue, which 
 appears on w2k servers too...)

The first time I tried for a response on this problem from the list, I
got a single reply that suggested the problem *can* occur on w2k servers
also. 

  As can be seen with the share definition above, I did try changing 
  from my original owner/group setting of 'nobody, nobody' to 
 the real 
  owner and the 'autocad' group.  My logic was that perhaps AutoCAD 
  wanted to
 
 i don't think, that it's a permission problem, we're using AutoCAD, 
 Architectual Desktop and Mechanical Desktop on Samba and on 
 w2k servers 
 without ( ;-) ) problems...

Well, this is the only problem I have found...that's why I think it's an
AutoDesk problem.  However, since there are so many end users running
w2k, there must be a solution.  It doesn't show up in the knowledge base
at AutoCAD however.
 
  The only thing I stumbled upon that might help someone suggest a 
  solution was that killing and restarting the samba daemons 
 after the 
  win2k box had opened the main drawing file will allow the 
 command to 
  complete!  The main drawing throws an error when you next 
 try to save
 
 please report if/which switches had sucess.

Any other suggestions?  I wonder if the routine has been configured
incorrectly to be much more specific about the ownership of the file
that it wants to read.  But why it will work if the file exists on the
server already I can't get my head around!!

Brock 

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Re: [Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Weiss
Brock Nanson schrieb:
I first asked this question at the end of October, got a response which
didn't solve the problem, and have finally got back to the issue now.
there where the same problem with excel/winword files anywhere, i think 
there should be much to read in the archives :-(

-I can view the directory and see the temporary file in it, called
$cvp$tp.dwg.
-Allowing the command to complete, the file is removed as it should be.
to find out, where the problem lies, please try
oplocks = no
afterwards u can try
dos filetime resolution = yes
dos filetimes = yes
LanDevelopment Desktop seems to use more threads, and one does not know, 
what the other does. ('cause, there's running very much arx applications.)
did u look to the autodesk hompage too? (maybe thats an issue, which 
appears on w2k servers too...)

As can be seen with the share definition above, I did try changing from
my original owner/group setting of 'nobody, nobody' to the real owner
and the 'autocad' group.  My logic was that perhaps AutoCAD wanted to
i don't think, that it's a permission problem, we're using AutoCAD, 
Architectual Desktop and Mechanical Desktop on Samba and on w2k servers 
without ( ;-) ) problems...

The only thing I stumbled upon that might help someone suggest a
solution was that killing and restarting the samba daemons after the
win2k box had opened the main drawing file will allow the command to
complete!  The main drawing throws an error when you next try to save
please report if/which switches had sucess.

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[Samba] Win2k, Domain logon, permissions

2003-03-07 Thread Brock Nanson
I first asked this question at the end of October, got a response which
didn't solve the problem, and have finally got back to the issue now.

I'm running 2.2.7a, recently upgraded from 2.2.0 as Domain Logons for
Win2K were suspected to be part of my problem.  Anyway, the issue
relates to AutoCAD (actually a vertical product called Land3) and a
command which works with winXX boxes, but fails with 2K.

Data files are on the server.  The definition is as follows:

[cad]
   path = /home/sdsk
   create mask = 0774
   directory mask = 0775
;   force group = autocad
;   write list = @autocad
   public = yes
   only guest = yes
   writable = yes
   printable = no

As you can see, the commented out lines show some things I've been
trying.  The original problem was:

-a command writes a drawing block to the directory of the current
drawing in use (on the Samba server)
-it is supposed to then read the block back in and insert it in the
drawing (Sheetmanager, copy mspace to pspace if any cares) and delete it
from the server.
-the command fails (only on 2K), saying it couldn't find the file on any
of the paths, provides a list of which the second entry is correct.
-I can view the directory and see the temporary file in it, called
$cvp$tp.dwg.
-Allowing the command to complete, the file is removed as it should be.

I can have the command complete correctly if I 'seed' the directory with
a file of the name shown above.  The command overwrites the file with
the correct one, and somehow manages to find it this time, then deletes
it properly when complete.  However, it will fail the next time because
that seed file is gone!

I upgraded to 2.2.7a to get the domain logons working properly (a story
in itself ;-) - which they apparently are now.  As I was unable to get
'complete control' of the file without the domain logons, my reseller
was reluctant to take the problem to Autodesk.  Now that the domain
logons work, I can have complete control - but the command is still
failing.

As can be seen with the share definition above, I did try changing from
my original owner/group setting of 'nobody, nobody' to the real owner
and the 'autocad' group.  My logic was that perhaps AutoCAD wanted to
see that this file was owned by the win2k box, rather than owned by
nobody.  This did not make a difference.

The only thing I stumbled upon that might help someone suggest a
solution was that killing and restarting the samba daemons after the
win2k box had opened the main drawing file will allow the command to
complete!  The main drawing throws an error when you next try to save
it, but does seem to connect OK after a short time.  The following is
the output of smbstatus before and after a samba restart - sorry, the
long file names don't wrap nicely...:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./smbstatus

Samba version 2.2.7a
Service  uid  gid  pid machine
--
cad  todd todd 16138   true-mobile1 (192.168.0.114) Thu
Mar  6 23:49:13 2003

Locked files:
PidDenyMode   Access  R/WOplock   Name
--
16138  DENY_WRITE 0x20089 RDONLY LEVEL_II
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/Architect -
Petroff/03JAN14/arch.dwg   Thu Mar  6 23:51:35 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x20089 RDONLY LEVEL_II
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/Architect -
Petroff/03JAN14/arch.dwg   Thu Mar  6 23:51:35 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/align/Alignment.mdb   Thu Mar  6
23:52:24 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/LongFileNameSystem.ldb   Thu Mar  6
23:52:23 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/align/Alignment.ldb   Thu Mar  6
23:52:25 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/XDRefs.ldb   Thu Mar  6
23:55:21 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/DescKey/DEFAULT.mdb   Thu Mar
6 23:55:21 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/points.mdb   Thu Mar  6
23:55:22 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/points.ldb   Thu Mar  6
23:55:22 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/XDRefs.mdb   Thu Mar  6
23:55:21 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/cogo/DescKey/DEFAULT.ldb   Thu Mar
6 23:55:21 2003
16138  DENY_NONE  0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects R3/488-121P/LongFileNameSystem.mdb   Thu Mar  6
23:52:23 2003
16138  DENY_WRITE 0x2019f RDWR   EXCLUSIVE+BATCH
/home/sdsk/Land Projects