RE: [Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (reposted)

2003-03-14 Thread Peter Carpenter
Did you change your security setting in your new Samba e.g. from share
to domain?

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Subject: Re: [Samba] Win95  Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok
(reposted)





I tried adding the [printers] section to my conf file as John suggested, but
this didn't solve the problem.
Still able to print from NT, 2000, XP  and not from Win95, 98

just recapping - am able to print from all clients with the old version
(2.0.6)
which we are still using in production

With the new Samba (2.2.7a) the file sharing is fine, but printing only
works
for NT,2000,XP
With Win95  Win98 only, the file gets put in the spool directory but
doesn't
seem to get
sent from the spool directory to the printer. (or picked up by the printer -
however it works...)

Any idea if Win95, 98 printing is treated differently to the newer OS's ?

thanks for any thoughts.

see below for other details...

-peter.





John H Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 13/03/2003 03:02:55 PM
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Suggest you add a [printers] entry in your smb.conf file. You should NOT
need an entry for the printer itself. My samba-2.2.x prints fine from
Win95/98/Me as well as NT4/2K/XP.

- John T.

 Hey, thanks for your efforts anyway.

 I don't know what to make of this.
 Obviously a lot of things have changed between Samba 2.0.6 and 2.2.7a,
 but I can't figure out why Win95  98 suddenly can't print.
 I think you may be right - something to do with the new Samba using the
 MS-RPCs...
 which I imagine would mean a completely different printing method.
 Do you think this would require a different printer driver on the 95/98
boxes??
From what I read, I had the impression that it should all still work.

  I'd like to hear from anyone if they are successfully printing from
Win95,
 Win98 clients
  on a   Solaris server and using HP printers.

 I'm sure many people must be successfully printing from 95/98, but maybe
this
 problem
 is specific to my particular environment ?

 I am contemplating your suggestion about the bug message.
 Maybe another day or so of frustration and I will try it.

 again - thanks muchly for your help.

 -peter.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:33:35 +0100
From: maraqas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Peter,
i had a long, frunstrating web surfing yesterday night, searching for
something
that could apply to your case. I didn't find much at all, sorry. The only
thing
perhaps interesting to you could be this:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/printer_driver2.html
This doc contains a section about migrating from 2.0.x to 2.2.x
I think the problem lyes in the new way samba manages printing, that is
by listening the MS-RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) coming from the
winNT and win2000 clients. This is done thanks to spoolss, as i figured
out reading here and there across the net. Well they say spoolss supports
even win9x driver calls, even if those OSes do not actually make an RPC.
They also say that backward compat. is reached through use client
driver
and spoolss disable. With these options enabled, the samba server
should
act just like it was a 2.0.x
I think you'd need help from the samba guys themselves, so i advice
reposting this problem with a more shocking subject line (suggest to
use the keyword BUG :)) so you'll be able to capture their attention.

Really sorry not to have been useful to you...

cheers

Maq

 
 Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first
post),
 we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead
without
 the support for the older machines.
 Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.
 
 Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.
 
 Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
 However, with windows 95  98, the print job gets put into the Samba
 spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it
to
the
 printer.
 The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.
 
 Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
 Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn
 
 All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older
version
  of Samba (2.0.6)
 
 printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
 get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?
 
 any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please
 :-)
 
 -peter.
 
 
 (p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the disable
spoolss
=
  yes
 but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even
from
the
 clients that
 were originally working.)
 
 
 relevant bits of conf. file included below...
 note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
 indicates that it is configured properly...
 
 [global]
   printing = sysv

  lprm

Re: [Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (reposted)

2003-03-13 Thread peter.a.bryant



I tried adding the [printers] section to my conf file as John suggested, but
this didn't solve the problem.
Still able to print from NT, 2000, XP  and not from Win95, 98

just recapping - am able to print from all clients with the old version (2.0.6)
which we are still using in production

With the new Samba (2.2.7a) the file sharing is fine, but printing only works
for NT,2000,XP
With Win95  Win98 only, the file gets put in the spool directory but doesn't
seem to get
sent from the spool directory to the printer. (or picked up by the printer -
however it works...)

Any idea if Win95, 98 printing is treated differently to the newer OS's ?

thanks for any thoughts.

see below for other details...

-peter.





John H Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 13/03/2003 03:02:55 PM
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Suggest you add a [printers] entry in your smb.conf file. You should NOT
need an entry for the printer itself. My samba-2.2.x prints fine from
Win95/98/Me as well as NT4/2K/XP.

- John T.

 Hey, thanks for your efforts anyway.

 I don't know what to make of this.
 Obviously a lot of things have changed between Samba 2.0.6 and 2.2.7a,
 but I can't figure out why Win95  98 suddenly can't print.
 I think you may be right - something to do with the new Samba using the
 MS-RPCs...
 which I imagine would mean a completely different printing method.
 Do you think this would require a different printer driver on the 95/98
boxes??
From what I read, I had the impression that it should all still work.

  I'd like to hear from anyone if they are successfully printing from
Win95,
 Win98 clients
  on a   Solaris server and using HP printers.

 I'm sure many people must be successfully printing from 95/98, but maybe this
 problem
 is specific to my particular environment ?

 I am contemplating your suggestion about the bug message.
 Maybe another day or so of frustration and I will try it.

 again - thanks muchly for your help.

 -peter.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:33:35 +0100
From: maraqas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Peter,
i had a long, frunstrating web surfing yesterday night, searching for
something
that could apply to your case. I didn't find much at all, sorry. The only
thing
perhaps interesting to you could be this:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/printer_driver2.html
This doc contains a section about migrating from 2.0.x to 2.2.x
I think the problem lyes in the new way samba manages printing, that is
by listening the MS-RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) coming from the
winNT and win2000 clients. This is done thanks to spoolss, as i figured
out reading here and there across the net. Well they say spoolss supports
even win9x driver calls, even if those OSes do not actually make an RPC.
They also say that backward compat. is reached through use client driver
and spoolss disable. With these options enabled, the samba server should
act just like it was a 2.0.x
I think you'd need help from the samba guys themselves, so i advice
reposting this problem with a more shocking subject line (suggest to
use the keyword BUG :)) so you'll be able to capture their attention.

Really sorry not to have been useful to you...

cheers

Maq

 
 Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first post),
 we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead
without
 the support for the older machines.
 Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.
 
 Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.
 
 Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
 However, with windows 95  98, the print job gets put into the Samba
 spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it to
the
 printer.
 The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.
 
 Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
 Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn
 
 All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older
version
  of Samba (2.0.6)
 
 printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
 get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?
 
 any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please
 :-)
 
 -peter.
 
 
 (p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the disable spoolss
=
  yes
 but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even from
the
 clients that
 were originally working.)
 
 
 relevant bits of conf. file included below...
 note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
 indicates that it is configured properly...
 
 [global]
   printing = sysv

  lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
  lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
  lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume
  load printers = no
 
 [hp8100DN1]
  printer = hp8100dn_1
 comment = HP LaserJet hp8100 DN
 path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba
 guest account = nobody
 guest ok = yes
 browseable = yes
 printable = yes
 writable = 

[Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (reposted)

2003-03-12 Thread peter.a.bryant



Hey, thanks for your efforts anyway.

I don't know what to make of this.
Obviously a lot of things have changed between Samba 2.0.6 and 2.2.7a,
but I can't figure out why Win95  98 suddenly can't print.
I think you may be right - something to do with the new Samba using the
MS-RPCs...
which I imagine would mean a completely different printing method.
Do you think this would require a different printer driver on the 95/98 boxes??
From what I read, I had the impression that it should all still work.

 I'd like to hear from anyone if they are successfully printing from Win95,
Win98 clients
 on a   Solaris server and using HP printers.

I'm sure many people must be successfully printing from 95/98, but maybe this
problem
is specific to my particular environment ?

I am contemplating your suggestion about the bug message.
Maybe another day or so of frustration and I will try it.

again - thanks muchly for your help.

-peter.

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:33:35 +0100
From: maraqas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Peter,
i had a long, frunstrating web surfing yesterday night, searching for
something
that could apply to your case. I didn't find much at all, sorry. The only
thing
perhaps interesting to you could be this:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/printer_driver2.html
This doc contains a section about migrating from 2.0.x to 2.2.x
I think the problem lyes in the new way samba manages printing, that is
by listening the MS-RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) coming from the
winNT and win2000 clients. This is done thanks to spoolss, as i figured
out reading here and there across the net. Well they say spoolss supports
even win9x driver calls, even if those OSes do not actually make an RPC.
They also say that backward compat. is reached through use client driver
and spoolss disable. With these options enabled, the samba server should
act just like it was a 2.0.x
I think you'd need help from the samba guys themselves, so i advice
reposting this problem with a more shocking subject line (suggest to
use the keyword BUG :)) so you'll be able to capture their attention.

Really sorry not to have been useful to you...

cheers

Maq

Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first post),
we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead without
the support for the older machines.
Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.

Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.

Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
However, with windows 95  98, the print job gets put into the Samba
spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it to the
printer.
The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.

Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn

All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older version
of Samba (2.0.6)

printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok

Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?

any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please
:-)

-peter.


(p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the disable spoolss =
yes
but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even from the
clients that
were originally working.)


relevant bits of conf. file included below...
note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
indicates that it is configured properly...

[global]
  printing = sysv
   
 
 lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
 lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
 lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume
 load printers = no

[hp8100DN1]
 printer = hp8100dn_1
comment = HP LaserJet hp8100 DN
path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba
guest account = nobody
guest ok = yes
browseable = yes
printable = yes
writable = yes






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Re: [Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok(reposted)

2003-03-12 Thread John H Terpstra
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Suggest you add a [printers] entry in your smb.conf file. You should NOT
need an entry for the printer itself. My samba-2.2.x prints fine from
Win95/98/Me as well as NT4/2K/XP.

- John T.

 Hey, thanks for your efforts anyway.

 I don't know what to make of this.
 Obviously a lot of things have changed between Samba 2.0.6 and 2.2.7a,
 but I can't figure out why Win95  98 suddenly can't print.
 I think you may be right - something to do with the new Samba using the
 MS-RPCs...
 which I imagine would mean a completely different printing method.
 Do you think this would require a different printer driver on the 95/98 boxes??
 From what I read, I had the impression that it should all still work.

  I'd like to hear from anyone if they are successfully printing from Win95,
 Win98 clients
  on a   Solaris server and using HP printers.

 I'm sure many people must be successfully printing from 95/98, but maybe this
 problem
 is specific to my particular environment ?

 I am contemplating your suggestion about the bug message.
 Maybe another day or so of frustration and I will try it.

 again - thanks muchly for your help.

 -peter.

 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:33:35 +0100
 From: maraqas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi Peter,
 i had a long, frunstrating web surfing yesterday night, searching for
 something
 that could apply to your case. I didn't find much at all, sorry. The only
 thing
 perhaps interesting to you could be this:
 http://us2.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/printer_driver2.html
 This doc contains a section about migrating from 2.0.x to 2.2.x
 I think the problem lyes in the new way samba manages printing, that is
 by listening the MS-RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) coming from the
 winNT and win2000 clients. This is done thanks to spoolss, as i figured
 out reading here and there across the net. Well they say spoolss supports
 even win9x driver calls, even if those OSes do not actually make an RPC.
 They also say that backward compat. is reached through use client driver
 and spoolss disable. With these options enabled, the samba server should
 act just like it was a 2.0.x
 I think you'd need help from the samba guys themselves, so i advice
 reposting this problem with a more shocking subject line (suggest to
 use the keyword BUG :)) so you'll be able to capture their attention.
 
 Really sorry not to have been useful to you...
 
 cheers
 
 Maq

 Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first post),
 we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead without
 the support for the older machines.
 Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.
 
 Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.
 
 Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
 However, with windows 95  98, the print job gets put into the Samba
 spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it to the
 printer.
 The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.
 
 Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
 Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn
 
 All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older version
 of Samba (2.0.6)
 
 printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
 get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?
 
 any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please
 :-)
 
 -peter.
 
 
 (p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the disable spoolss =
 yes
 but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even from the
 clients that
 were originally working.)
 
 
 relevant bits of conf. file included below...
 note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
 indicates that it is configured properly...
 
 [global]
   printing = sysv

  lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
  lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
  lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume
  load printers = no
 
 [hp8100DN1]
  printer = hp8100dn_1
 comment = HP LaserJet hp8100 DN
 path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba
 guest account = nobody
 guest ok = yes
 browseable = yes
 printable = yes
 writable = yes





 
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[Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (reposted)

2003-03-09 Thread peter.a.bryant



Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:50:28 +0100
From: maq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: SambaList [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Re: [Samba] printing - Win95  Win98 not working - NT,2000, XP are
ok.]

1) Do you have a backup copy of your old smb.conf?
2) Try adding public=yes to the printer share definition


Thanks for the suggestions but...

1 - yep I am basically using the same old conf file on which printing was
working for Win95, 98  with a few necessary modifications.

2  -The printer share has guest ok which is the same as public=yes

any other ideas?






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[Samba] Win95 Win98 - NOT WORKING - NT,2000, XP are ok (reposted)

2003-03-06 Thread peter.a.bryant



Sorry to have to repost this (didn't get any response on the first post),
we really need some of the fixes of the new Samba but cannot go ahead without
the support for the older machines.
Need to prove that Samba is the great product that I believe it is.

Hi folks - I am having printing problems with our older machines.

Printing is working fine for our Windows NT, 2000 and XP clients.
However, with windows 95  98, the print job gets put into the Samba
spool directory (path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba)  but doesn't make it to the
printer.
The print files stay there in the directory - don't get removed.

Samba version is 2.2.7a,  on Solaris 8
Printers are HP printers - e.g. HP 8100dn

All clients including 95/98 were happily printing on a very much older version
of Samba (2.0.6)

printing directly from Unix to the printer is working ok

Has anyone experienced this problem or have any advice on how to
get my older boxes printing with the latest Samba?

any thoughts welcome - no really - anything - please
:-)

-peter.


(p.s. Just for a wild stab in the dark I tried setting the disable spoolss =
yes
but this stopped all printing from making it to the computer - even from the
clients that
were originally working.)


relevant bits of conf. file included below...
note that I don't have print command explicitly stated, but testparm
indicates that it is configured properly...

[global]

  printing = sysv
   
  

  lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
  lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
  lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume

 load printers = no

[hp8100DN1]

printer = hp8100dn_1

comment = HP LaserJet hp8100 DN
 

path = /var/spool/lp/tmp/samba

guest account = nobody

guest ok = yes
 

browseable = yes

printable = yes

writable = yes







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