[Samba] Windows 7 attempting to access Samba over port 80

2012-05-29 Thread Tom Noonan II
Good Morning:
I'm running a domain-joined Samba 3.6 server.  For the majority of
users it is working as expected; they can log in without issue using their
domain credentials and AD group ACLs are working.  However, I have one
Windows 7 user who is complaining he can't log in.  When I looked on the server
I see no logs for his machine.  I did a initial traffic sniff and I see his
machine is pinging the Samba server on port 80.
I want to clearly state I don't think this is a samba problem.  The
overall majority of users are not complaining about this server.  Based on the
information I have today, Samba doesn't even come into play as the Win7 box
pings the wrong port.  I do still need to verify that the client is starting
initially on port 80, and not trying 445, failing, caching the failure, and
then falling back to 80 on subsequent attempts.
So, I want to pose the following question to the list: has anyone seen
this?  I shoulder surfed and I don't believe it to be user error at this time.
I have a sit-down with the user tomorrow to try and resolve this.  However, I
currently believe this is a client side issue and I don't know what to check
client side.  (I'm a Linux admin, not Windows)  Can any of the Windows guys on
this list advise?
Thanks!

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Re: [Samba] Windows 7 attempting to access Samba over port 80

2012-05-29 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
Since it is port 80, can you capture the contents of the packets? 

It might be Outlook trying to autoconfigure a mail account?  Outlook
will poke around on several ports trying to locate a mail server. 

I believe Windows clients should try to connect on port 445 then fall
back to 137-139.The only way samba would use port 80 is if you were
using an SSL tunnel BUT I don't think Windows client natively supports
that. 

On 05/29/12 11:15, Tom Noonan II wrote:
 Good Morning:
   I'm running a domain-joined Samba 3.6 server.  For the majority of
 users it is working as expected; they can log in without issue using their
 domain credentials and AD group ACLs are working.  However, I have one
 Windows 7 user who is complaining he can't log in.  When I looked on the 
 server
 I see no logs for his machine.  I did a initial traffic sniff and I see his
 machine is pinging the Samba server on port 80.
   I want to clearly state I don't think this is a samba problem.  The
 overall majority of users are not complaining about this server.  Based on the
 information I have today, Samba doesn't even come into play as the Win7 box
 pings the wrong port.  I do still need to verify that the client is starting
 initially on port 80, and not trying 445, failing, caching the failure, and
 then falling back to 80 on subsequent attempts.
   So, I want to pose the following question to the list: has anyone seen
 this?  I shoulder surfed and I don't believe it to be user error at this time.
 I have a sit-down with the user tomorrow to try and resolve this.  However, I
 currently believe this is a client side issue and I don't know what to check
 client side.  (I'm a Linux admin, not Windows)  Can any of the Windows guys on
 this list advise?
   Thanks!


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Re: [Samba] Windows 7 attempting to access Samba over port 80

2012-05-29 Thread simo
IIRc I have seen Windows trying to use port 80 and webdav when no port
139/445 was available.
Only from the graphical shell though. This is not done at the redirector
level, but up the stack when the machine can't be found using SMB.

Simo.

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 14:02 -0400, Gaiseric Vandal wrote: 
 Since it is port 80, can you capture the contents of the packets? 
 
 It might be Outlook trying to autoconfigure a mail account?  Outlook
 will poke around on several ports trying to locate a mail server. 
 
 I believe Windows clients should try to connect on port 445 then fall
 back to 137-139.The only way samba would use port 80 is if you were
 using an SSL tunnel BUT I don't think Windows client natively supports
 that. 
 
 On 05/29/12 11:15, Tom Noonan II wrote:
  Good Morning:
  I'm running a domain-joined Samba 3.6 server.  For the majority of
  users it is working as expected; they can log in without issue using their
  domain credentials and AD group ACLs are working.  However, I have one
  Windows 7 user who is complaining he can't log in.  When I looked on the 
  server
  I see no logs for his machine.  I did a initial traffic sniff and I see his
  machine is pinging the Samba server on port 80.
  I want to clearly state I don't think this is a samba problem.  The
  overall majority of users are not complaining about this server.  Based on 
  the
  information I have today, Samba doesn't even come into play as the Win7 box
  pings the wrong port.  I do still need to verify that the client is starting
  initially on port 80, and not trying 445, failing, caching the failure, and
  then falling back to 80 on subsequent attempts.
  So, I want to pose the following question to the list: has anyone seen
  this?  I shoulder surfed and I don't believe it to be user error at this 
  time.
  I have a sit-down with the user tomorrow to try and resolve this.  However, 
  I
  currently believe this is a client side issue and I don't know what to check
  client side.  (I'm a Linux admin, not Windows)  Can any of the Windows guys 
  on
  this list advise?
  Thanks!
 
 


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Re: [Samba] Windows 7 attempting to access Samba over port 80

2012-05-29 Thread tbuchanan
In my case -- same symptoms (attempted connection via TCP port 80), there 
were over 200 6to4 adapters which I removed and then was able to connect 
to samba share.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/windows-7-system-error-1231-network-location/07c46785-cd1b-42c9-aa94-0adf1f4e2516




From:   simo i...@samba.org
To: gaiseric.van...@gmail.com, 
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Date:   05/29/2012 02:13 PM
Subject:Re: [Samba] Windows 7 attempting to access Samba over port 
80
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IIRc I have seen Windows trying to use port 80 and webdav when no port
139/445 was available.
Only from the graphical shell though. This is not done at the redirector
level, but up the stack when the machine can't be found using SMB.

Simo.

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 14:02 -0400, Gaiseric Vandal wrote: 
 Since it is port 80, can you capture the contents of the packets? 
 
 It might be Outlook trying to autoconfigure a mail account?  Outlook
 will poke around on several ports trying to locate a mail server. 
 
 I believe Windows clients should try to connect on port 445 then fall
 back to 137-139.The only way samba would use port 80 is if you were
 using an SSL tunnel BUT I don't think Windows client natively supports
 that. 
 
 On 05/29/12 11:15, Tom Noonan II wrote:
  Good Morning:
   I'm running a domain-joined Samba 3.6 server.  For the 
majority of
  users it is working as expected; they can log in without issue using 
their
  domain credentials and AD group ACLs are working.  However, I have one
  Windows 7 user who is complaining he can't log in.  When I looked on 
the server
  I see no logs for his machine.  I did a initial traffic sniff and I 
see his
  machine is pinging the Samba server on port 80.
   I want to clearly state I don't think this is a samba 
problem.  The
  overall majority of users are not complaining about this server. Based 
on the
  information I have today, Samba doesn't even come into play as the 
Win7 box
  pings the wrong port.  I do still need to verify that the client is 
starting
  initially on port 80, and not trying 445, failing, caching the 
failure, and
  then falling back to 80 on subsequent attempts.
   So, I want to pose the following question to the list: 
has anyone seen
  this?  I shoulder surfed and I don't believe it to be user error at 
this time.
  I have a sit-down with the user tomorrow to try and resolve this. 
However, I
  currently believe this is a client side issue and I don't know what to 
check
  client side.  (I'm a Linux admin, not Windows)  Can any of the Windows 
guys on
  this list advise?
   Thanks!
 
 


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Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer s...@samba.org
Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat, Inc. s...@redhat.com

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