Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows machinename

2010-12-21 Thread Daniel Müller
Hi, 
DNS is DNS and WINS is WINS. XP Machines in a Samba3 Domain with WINS will
resolve their names by WINS.
What must be exactly the same is the netbios name of your workstations( if
it is part of your dns-name). You cannot change your netbios name five times
a day without put for each name an entry in your samba db.
I think what your dns administrator will do is give each machine a dynamic
ip with exactly the same host name.



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machinename






 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
 machinename
 From: Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Date: Monday, 20/12/2010  5:15 PM

 I am not sure how you would have a DNS server assign random names.  
 But if
 you aren't going to have the correct entries for the XP machine in 
 DNS, then
 you probably should not have any DNS entries for those machines.XP
 machines can register their hostnames directly in DNS (if the DNS 
 server
 supports it.)  In general I don't think workstations machines need to 
 be in
 DNS at all since (unless you have shared folders or printers.)
It's certainly easier when a help desk request comes in to ask the 
user for the machine name label, then try and get the machines IP 
addy. rdp://acct1  rdp://lab7 rdp://eng21 rdp://admin5

soo

But yeah, WinXP and up have no problem doing this.  dhcp can be a big 
help as well.

 I general
 DISABLE dynamic updates in DNS and don't have DNS assignments/static 
 IP's
 for most XP machines.



 -Original Message-
 From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
 [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org]
 On Behalf Of Marcus
 Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:17 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
 machine name

 Hi,

 we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated 
 WINS.
 The machine name of each WinXP client is set manually during the
 installation initial process. Each client is using the WINS server of
 our domain controller. The WinXP clients are getting their IP by a
 global DNS Server, which sets the DNS and reverse DNS entry 
 identically
 to the windos machine name.
 Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
 and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
 will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The 
 WinXP
 clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
 Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
 controller and/or the WinXP clients?

 Thanks,
 Marcus


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Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows machinename

2010-12-21 Thread TAKAHASHI Motonobu
2010/12/20 Marcus li...@localguru.de:
 we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated WINS.
(snip)
  Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
 and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
 will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The WinXP
 clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
  Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
 controller and/or the WinXP clients?

Samba 3 domain is compatible with NT domain. NT domain uses only NetBIOS
name which can be resolved by WINS (or LMHOSTS or broadcast...), not DNS.

So the change of DNS settings will not affect your samba domain.

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Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows machinename

2010-12-21 Thread Marcus
Am Dienstag, den 21.12.2010, 19:19 +0900 schrieb TAKAHASHI Motonobu:
 2010/12/20 Marcus li...@localguru.de:
  we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated WINS.
 (snip)
   Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
  and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
  will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The WinXP
  clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
   Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
  controller and/or the WinXP clients?
 
 Samba 3 domain is compatible with NT domain. NT domain uses only NetBIOS
 name which can be resolved by WINS (or LMHOSTS or broadcast...), not DNS.
 
 So the change of DNS settings will not affect your samba domain.

Thanks a lot, good news.

Ciao,
Marcus


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Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows machinename

2010-12-20 Thread tms3







--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
machinename

From: Gaiseric Vandal gaiseric.van...@gmail.com
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Date: Monday, 20/12/2010  5:15 PM

I am not sure how you would have a DNS server assign random names.  
But if
you aren't going to have the correct entries for the XP machine in 
DNS, then

you probably should not have any DNS entries for those machines.XP
machines can register their hostnames directly in DNS (if the DNS 
server
supports it.)  In general I don't think workstations machines need to 
be in

DNS at all since (unless you have shared folders or printers.)
It's certainly easier when a help desk request comes in to ask the 
user for the machine name label, then try and get the machines IP 
addy. rdp://acct1  rdp://lab7 rdp://eng21 rdp://admin5


soo

But yeah, WinXP and up have no problem doing this.  dhcp can be a big 
help as well.


I general
DISABLE dynamic updates in DNS and don't have DNS assignments/static 
IP's

for most XP machines.



-Original Message-
From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
[mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org]

On Behalf Of Marcus
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:17 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
machine name


Hi,

we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated 
WINS.

The machine name of each WinXP client is set manually during the
installation initial process. Each client is using the WINS server of
our domain controller. The WinXP clients are getting their IP by a
global DNS Server, which sets the DNS and reverse DNS entry 
identically

to the windos machine name.
Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The 
WinXP

clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
controller and/or the WinXP clients?

Thanks,
Marcus


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