Re: AW: [Samba] Samba Success Story

2003-11-10 Thread Jerry Haltom
No, I bought the Samba 3.0 Official Reference and Howto book and
followed the instructions. :)

On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 18:44, SEFEROVIC Edvin wrote:
> Congratulations... nice move... a high quality solution doesn't have to mean
> expensive solution as well... I wish you luck in your next step ( " removing
> Windows from the desktop" )... another question - have you documented this
> project of yours?
> 
> Greets
> SEFEROVIC Edvin
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
> von Jerry Haltom
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. November 2003 01:33
> An: Greg Folkert
> Cc: SambaUser List
> Betreff: Re: [Samba] Samba Success Story
> 
> Well, getting off of Active Directory was our main goal. I'm sure most
> here can figure out why. Thanks to MS's "innovation", one can't just
> keep Exchange working with it.
> 
> So... we searched for alternatives that were exactly the same, and found
> nothing that offered any clear benefits. They'res just nothing the can
> offer the "Outlook Integration" thing, which is apparently intentional.
> :)
> 
> We wanted to get with a standard IMAP server, and we did. Cyrus-IMAP. it
> performs well, is WAY more usable, storing messages as normal files.
> Easy to tar up and backup normal files vs. a massive JET database. It
> doesn't offer Calendar/Contacts such as Exchange does though... so we
> kept looking.
> 
> A new project just appeared, OpenGroupware (www.opengroupware.org). It
> started as a commerical project, but has recently been released under
> the GPL. The code base itself is very mature, however the conversion to
> rename everything from SKYRIX to OGo has caused some headaches. It is
> however not Exchange. It offers a lot of features Exchange doesn't, and
> doesn't offer some Exchange does, and offers others differently. It's a
> different product. It's a lot like ACT actually, which some of our users
> love.
> 
> That is taking some adjusting by our users, but they'll get over it.
> 
> Also, unless you pay for the commercial Outlook plugin, it doesn't just
> work in Outlook. It does however have a nice WebUI Mmmm WebUI...
> *coughhackcough*.
> 
> We're using the WebUI. It works okay.
> 
> Outlook makes using an IMAP server a bitch though, it does the crossout
> deleted messages thing. Can't store the password properly. Doens't ask
> you when it changes, just silently fails. Outlook is at fault, but
> that's that. We can live with it.
> 
> Now that our server end is "clean" we can begin on our ultimate goal of
> removing Windows from the desktop though.
> 
> On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 18:10, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:03, Jerry Haltom wrote:
> > > I'd like to thank the Samba team for making our switch off of Active
> > > Directory amazingly smooth. We're a small company, only 30 desktops, but
> > > things went great for us. Actually, nobody even notices the Windows DC
> > > is even gone!
> > > 
> > > The Exchange migration that went along with this wasn't as hassle free
> > > though. =(
> > > 
> > > It's really refreshing to be able to SSH into our file server and see
> > > what's going on!
> > > 
> > > Kudo's to the Samba team for saving us time/money and our sanity!
> > 
> > Could you share what you did? Along with what "e-mail/groupware" package
> > did you switch to...
> > 
> > I'd be interested to know. I am sure other would be as well.
> -- 
> Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Feedback Plus, Inc.
> 
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AW: [Samba] Samba Success Story

2003-11-10 Thread SEFEROVIC Edvin

Congratulations... nice move... a high quality solution doesn't have to mean
expensive solution as well... I wish you luck in your next step ( " removing
Windows from the desktop" )... another question - have you documented this
project of yours?

Greets
SEFEROVIC Edvin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
von Jerry Haltom
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. November 2003 01:33
An: Greg Folkert
Cc: SambaUser List
Betreff: Re: [Samba] Samba Success Story

Well, getting off of Active Directory was our main goal. I'm sure most
here can figure out why. Thanks to MS's "innovation", one can't just
keep Exchange working with it.

So... we searched for alternatives that were exactly the same, and found
nothing that offered any clear benefits. They'res just nothing the can
offer the "Outlook Integration" thing, which is apparently intentional.
:)

We wanted to get with a standard IMAP server, and we did. Cyrus-IMAP. it
performs well, is WAY more usable, storing messages as normal files.
Easy to tar up and backup normal files vs. a massive JET database. It
doesn't offer Calendar/Contacts such as Exchange does though... so we
kept looking.

A new project just appeared, OpenGroupware (www.opengroupware.org). It
started as a commerical project, but has recently been released under
the GPL. The code base itself is very mature, however the conversion to
rename everything from SKYRIX to OGo has caused some headaches. It is
however not Exchange. It offers a lot of features Exchange doesn't, and
doesn't offer some Exchange does, and offers others differently. It's a
different product. It's a lot like ACT actually, which some of our users
love.

That is taking some adjusting by our users, but they'll get over it.

Also, unless you pay for the commercial Outlook plugin, it doesn't just
work in Outlook. It does however have a nice WebUI Mmmm WebUI...
*coughhackcough*.

We're using the WebUI. It works okay.

Outlook makes using an IMAP server a bitch though, it does the crossout
deleted messages thing. Can't store the password properly. Doens't ask
you when it changes, just silently fails. Outlook is at fault, but
that's that. We can live with it.

Now that our server end is "clean" we can begin on our ultimate goal of
removing Windows from the desktop though.

On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 18:10, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:03, Jerry Haltom wrote:
> > I'd like to thank the Samba team for making our switch off of Active
> > Directory amazingly smooth. We're a small company, only 30 desktops, but
> > things went great for us. Actually, nobody even notices the Windows DC
> > is even gone!
> > 
> > The Exchange migration that went along with this wasn't as hassle free
> > though. =(
> > 
> > It's really refreshing to be able to SSH into our file server and see
> > what's going on!
> > 
> > Kudo's to the Samba team for saving us time/money and our sanity!
> 
> Could you share what you did? Along with what "e-mail/groupware" package
> did you switch to...
> 
> I'd be interested to know. I am sure other would be as well.
-- 
Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Feedback Plus, Inc.

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