Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-20 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:55 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:14 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
  Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
  On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
   The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
   created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are
 installed
   with
   the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
   What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the
 standard
   ldap
   group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
  domain,
   but not 
   when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
   difference for Samba
   between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?
  
  not very likely to be an ACL problem.
  
  net groupmap list|grep Domain
  
  Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
  Users
  Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
  Guests
  Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
  Admins
  Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
 Domain
  Machines
  
  
  net getlocalsid
  
  [2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE
 
 this is a MAJOR problem...it should look like
 
 dn: sambaDomainName=EXAMPLE,dc=example,dc=net
 sambaAlgorithmicRidBase: 1000
 structuralObjectClass: sambaDomain
 objectClass: sambaDomain
 objectClass: sambaUnixIdPool
 sambaSID: S-1-5-21-89274850-471284788-6498272
 sambaDomainName: EXAMPLE
 gidNumber: 1021
 uidNumber: 1095
 
 and should have been created either by hand or by idealx 'populate'
 script if you followed someones directions somewhere.
 
 Craig
 
 Here is what I have now :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net groupmap list | grep Domain
 Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
 Users
 Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
 Guests
 Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
 Admins
 Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) - Domain
 Machines
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net getlocalsid
 SID for domain HIPPOLYTE is: S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093
 
  ... but I still cannot join an xp workstation to the domain, and a domain
 user on
 windows 98 cannot logon to the domain, althought a domain admin can.
 By the way, HIPPOLYTE is the name of the server; the domain name is INTAIR.
 Why is the command net getlocalsid returning SID for domain HIPPOLYTE

can you edit it with some type of GUI editor like phpldapmin or gq?

can you fetch it with ldapsearch, modify it with ldapmodify?

can you delete it and then fix it by running smbldap-populate again?
(assuming that you have smbldap-tools configuration file fixed)

Craig

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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Tousignant
Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:55 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:14 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
  Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
  On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
   The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
   created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are
 installed
   with
   the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
   What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the
 standard
   ldap
   group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
  domain,
   but not 
   when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
   difference for Samba
   between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?
  
  not very likely to be an ACL problem.
  
  net groupmap list|grep Domain
  
  Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) -
Domain
  Users
  Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) -
Domain
  Guests
  Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) -
Domain
  Admins
  Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
 Domain
  Machines
  
  
  net getlocalsid
  
  [2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE
 
 this is a MAJOR problem...it should look like
 
 dn: sambaDomainName=EXAMPLE,dc=example,dc=net
 sambaAlgorithmicRidBase: 1000
 structuralObjectClass: sambaDomain
 objectClass: sambaDomain
 objectClass: sambaUnixIdPool
 sambaSID: S-1-5-21-89274850-471284788-6498272
 sambaDomainName: EXAMPLE
 gidNumber: 1021
 uidNumber: 1095
 
 and should have been created either by hand or by idealx 'populate'
 script if you followed someones directions somewhere.
 
 Craig
 
 Here is what I have now :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net groupmap list | grep Domain
 Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
 Users
 Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
 Guests
 Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
 Admins
 Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
Domain
 Machines
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net getlocalsid
 SID for domain HIPPOLYTE is: S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093
 
  ... but I still cannot join an xp workstation to the domain, and a
domain
 user on
 windows 98 cannot logon to the domain, althought a domain admin can.
 By the way, HIPPOLYTE is the name of the server; the domain name is
INTAIR.
 Why is the command net getlocalsid returning SID for domain
HIPPOLYTE

can you edit it with some type of GUI editor like phpldapmin or gq?

yes, we use gq


can you fetch it with ldapsearch, modify it with ldapmodify?

well, I guest not, because this is what I get when I try to execute
the command :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# ldapsearch -LLL (dc=intair)
SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
Please enter your password:
ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Internal (implementation specific) error (80)
additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database


can you delete it and then fix it by running smbldap-populate again?
(assuming that you have smbldap-tools configuration file fixed)

The server is a slave ldap server, so we use slapcat on the master, then
slapadd
on the slave to populate it.

 ... do you have an idea why a member of the group Domain Admins is able
to
access the shares, but not a member of the Domain Users group ? What
is the difference for samba between the two's ?

Daniel Tousignant
Support informatique
Intair Transit
Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone : (514) 286-8515 poste 3326

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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-20 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 14:36 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:55 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
  Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
  On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:14 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
   Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
   On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are
  installed
with
the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the
  standard
ldap
group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
   domain,
but not 
when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
difference for Samba
between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?
   
   not very likely to be an ACL problem.
   
   net groupmap list|grep Domain
   
   Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) -
 Domain
   Users
   Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) -
 Domain
   Guests
   Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) -
 Domain
   Admins
   Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
  Domain
   Machines
   
   
   net getlocalsid
   
   [2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
 Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE
  
  this is a MAJOR problem...it should look like
  
  dn: sambaDomainName=EXAMPLE,dc=example,dc=net
  sambaAlgorithmicRidBase: 1000
  structuralObjectClass: sambaDomain
  objectClass: sambaDomain
  objectClass: sambaUnixIdPool
  sambaSID: S-1-5-21-89274850-471284788-6498272
  sambaDomainName: EXAMPLE
  gidNumber: 1021
  uidNumber: 1095
  
  and should have been created either by hand or by idealx 'populate'
  script if you followed someones directions somewhere.
  
  Craig
  
  Here is what I have now :
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net groupmap list | grep Domain
  Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
  Users
  Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
  Guests
  Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
  Admins
  Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
 Domain
  Machines
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net getlocalsid
  SID for domain HIPPOLYTE is: S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093
  
   ... but I still cannot join an xp workstation to the domain, and a
 domain
  user on
  windows 98 cannot logon to the domain, althought a domain admin can.
  By the way, HIPPOLYTE is the name of the server; the domain name is
 INTAIR.
  Why is the command net getlocalsid returning SID for domain
 HIPPOLYTE
 
 can you edit it with some type of GUI editor like phpldapmin or gq?
 
 yes, we use gq
 
 
 can you fetch it with ldapsearch, modify it with ldapmodify?
 
 well, I guest not, because this is what I get when I try to execute
 the command :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# ldapsearch -LLL (dc=intair)
 SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
 Please enter your password:
 ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Internal (implementation specific) error (80)
 additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database
 
 
 can you delete it and then fix it by running smbldap-populate again?
 (assuming that you have smbldap-tools configuration file fixed)
 
 The server is a slave ldap server, so we use slapcat on the master, then
 slapadd
 on the slave to populate it.

you do recognize that this is really a one time proposition and from
that point forward, slurpd replicates changes on the master to the
slave, right?

Therefore, the changes must be made to the master and replicated to the
slave. You should probably verify...

- the objectclass sambaDomain on the master
- the objectclass sambaDomain on the slave
that they are correct and the same, and then finally,
- that replication is working properly from master to slave

 
  ... do you have an idea why a member of the group Domain Admins is able
 to
 access the shares, but not a member of the Domain Users group ? What
 is the difference for samba between the two's ?

I wouldn't know that but perhaps it's in the permissions of the share or
in the general section itself.

Craig

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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Tousignant
Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:14 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
  The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
  created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are
installed
  with
  the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
  What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the
standard
  ldap
  group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
 domain,
  but not 
  when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
  difference for Samba
  between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?
 
 not very likely to be an ACL problem.
 
 net groupmap list|grep Domain
 
 Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
 Users
 Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
 Guests
 Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
 Admins
 Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) -
Domain
 Machines
 
 
 net getlocalsid
 
 [2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
   Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE

this is a MAJOR problem...it should look like

dn: sambaDomainName=EXAMPLE,dc=example,dc=net
sambaAlgorithmicRidBase: 1000
structuralObjectClass: sambaDomain
objectClass: sambaDomain
objectClass: sambaUnixIdPool
sambaSID: S-1-5-21-89274850-471284788-6498272
sambaDomainName: EXAMPLE
gidNumber: 1021
uidNumber: 1095

and should have been created either by hand or by idealx 'populate'
script if you followed someones directions somewhere.

Craig

Here is what I have now :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net groupmap list | grep Domain
Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
Users
Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
Guests
Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
Admins
Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) - Domain
Machines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] openldap]# net getlocalsid
SID for domain HIPPOLYTE is: S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093

 ... but I still cannot join an xp workstation to the domain, and a domain
user on
windows 98 cannot logon to the domain, althought a domain admin can.
By the way, HIPPOLYTE is the name of the server; the domain name is INTAIR.
Why is the command net getlocalsid returning SID for domain HIPPOLYTE

Daniel Tousignant
Support informatique
Intair Transit
Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone : (514) 286-8515 poste 3326

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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread James Taylor
The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your user
add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found that
the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which includes
that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information is
not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.

James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Daniel Tousignant
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
a windows xp workstation to the domain.
Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 

Thank you


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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Craig White
James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
smbldap-useradd script.

There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
that but I assure you that most versions aren't.

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
 objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your user
 add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found that
 the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which includes
 that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information is
 not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
 you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
 
 James
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Daniel Tousignant
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
 Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
 members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
 and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
 a windows xp workstation to the domain.
 Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 
 
 Thank you
 
 
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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Anthony Messina

James Taylor wrote:

The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your user
add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found that
the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which includes
that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information is
not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.

James


james, i've been paging through this thread, and i would like to see 
your change to the idealx scripts as i have had the same issue: 
smbldap-useradd does not properly add a machine account to ldap.


i am using smbldap-tools-0.9.1-1.2.fc4.rf.rpm from the rpmforge.net repo.

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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread James Taylor
I know that the last 2 versions of the script I am working with are missing
this function when using the -w switch (as documented) it will NOT add the
sambaSAMAccount information.  I have had several users also request a copy
of this script from me solving their problems with a similar issue.  It
seems very odd that there are so many similar issues lately on the posts
concerning the (I can't connect to the Domain).  Had it not been for the
fact I decided to look at the script itself I would not have found this
problem.  Going to the IDEALX site I would love to send them comments but as
my French is very minimal not too sure where to go.

Thanks

James

-Original Message-
From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:09 AM
To: James Taylor
Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
smbldap-useradd script.

There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
that but I assure you that most versions aren't.

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
 objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
user
 add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
that
 the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
includes
 that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
is
 not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
 you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
 
 James
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Daniel Tousignant
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
 Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
 members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
 and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
 a windows xp workstation to the domain.
 Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 
 
 Thank you
 
 
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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Craig White
#1 - click on the 'English flag' button - et voila, English

#2 - you should at least state which smbldap-tools you are speaking of
that you have fixed so others have a chance to compare and where you got
it from, idealx.com or from your distribution, and report the issue to
the place where it came from.

#3 - people are likely to ask you for if they are struggling and they
don't know why and you authoritatively suggest that your solution will
fix things for them. I think we had a very recent issue where that
wasn't the problem but the problem lied in his pam/ldap.conf.

#4 - suggesting that people do a complete replace the file that came
packaged with their system by one that you have modified doesn't seem
like the best solution at all...you could offer a 'patch' which should
throw up an alert if the file looks different or just the suggestions
about where you have modified the code and why...in fact, we have a wiki
for that kind of stuff now... http://wiki.samba.org

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:22 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 I know that the last 2 versions of the script I am working with are missing
 this function when using the -w switch (as documented) it will NOT add the
 sambaSAMAccount information.  I have had several users also request a copy
 of this script from me solving their problems with a similar issue.  It
 seems very odd that there are so many similar issues lately on the posts
 concerning the (I can't connect to the Domain).  Had it not been for the
 fact I decided to look at the script itself I would not have found this
 problem.  Going to the IDEALX site I would love to send them comments but as
 my French is very minimal not too sure where to go.
 
 Thanks
 
 James
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: James Taylor
 Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
 smbldap-useradd script.
 
 There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
 perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
 that but I assure you that most versions aren't.
 
 Craig
 
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
  The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
  objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
 user
  add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
 that
  the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
 includes
  that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
 is
  not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
  you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
  
  James
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of Daniel Tousignant
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
  
  We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
  Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
  members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
  and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
  a windows xp workstation to the domain.
  Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 
  
  Thank you
  
  
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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread James Taylor
Cool, will post on your wiki...

-Original Message-
From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:58 AM
To: James Taylor
Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

#1 - click on the 'English flag' button - et voila, English

#2 - you should at least state which smbldap-tools you are speaking of
that you have fixed so others have a chance to compare and where you got
it from, idealx.com or from your distribution, and report the issue to
the place where it came from.

#3 - people are likely to ask you for if they are struggling and they
don't know why and you authoritatively suggest that your solution will
fix things for them. I think we had a very recent issue where that
wasn't the problem but the problem lied in his pam/ldap.conf.

#4 - suggesting that people do a complete replace the file that came
packaged with their system by one that you have modified doesn't seem
like the best solution at all...you could offer a 'patch' which should
throw up an alert if the file looks different or just the suggestions
about where you have modified the code and why...in fact, we have a wiki
for that kind of stuff now... http://wiki.samba.org

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:22 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 I know that the last 2 versions of the script I am working with are
missing
 this function when using the -w switch (as documented) it will NOT add the
 sambaSAMAccount information.  I have had several users also request a copy
 of this script from me solving their problems with a similar issue.  It
 seems very odd that there are so many similar issues lately on the posts
 concerning the (I can't connect to the Domain).  Had it not been for the
 fact I decided to look at the script itself I would not have found this
 problem.  Going to the IDEALX site I would love to send them comments but
as
 my French is very minimal not too sure where to go.
 
 Thanks
 
 James
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: James Taylor
 Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
 smbldap-useradd script.
 
 There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
 perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
 that but I assure you that most versions aren't.
 
 Craig
 
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
  The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have
the
  objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
 user
  add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
 that
  the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
 includes
  that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
 is
  not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file
if
  you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
  
  James
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
  Of Daniel Tousignant
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
  To: samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
  
  We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
  Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
  members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
  and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
  a windows xp workstation to the domain.
  Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 
  
  Thank you
  
  
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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Craig White
You still should report the problem and your 'fix' to wherever you got
the smbldap-tools package from, be it your distribution or idealx.com

FWIW, I have never seen this issue myself and while I generally use
tools other than idealx to manage users/groups, I do add machines on the
fly which does use the idealx script to accomplish and is the discussion
item...adding machine accounts and getting the proper attributes. This
of course does require a properly configured smbldap-tools configuration
for both 'binding' to LDAP and for attributes, the configuration of
which has been split into 2 files for some time now.

Idealx.com - as I said, the 'English flag' button at the top right takes
you to their English language site.

As for the wiki - that belongs to you - the users - we just try to
maintain some semblance of order.

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 11:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 Cool, will post on your wiki...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:58 AM
 To: James Taylor
 Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 #1 - click on the 'English flag' button - et voila, English
 
 #2 - you should at least state which smbldap-tools you are speaking of
 that you have fixed so others have a chance to compare and where you got
 it from, idealx.com or from your distribution, and report the issue to
 the place where it came from.
 
 #3 - people are likely to ask you for if they are struggling and they
 don't know why and you authoritatively suggest that your solution will
 fix things for them. I think we had a very recent issue where that
 wasn't the problem but the problem lied in his pam/ldap.conf.
 
 #4 - suggesting that people do a complete replace the file that came
 packaged with their system by one that you have modified doesn't seem
 like the best solution at all...you could offer a 'patch' which should
 throw up an alert if the file looks different or just the suggestions
 about where you have modified the code and why...in fact, we have a wiki
 for that kind of stuff now... http://wiki.samba.org
 
 Craig
 
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:22 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
  I know that the last 2 versions of the script I am working with are
 missing
  this function when using the -w switch (as documented) it will NOT add the
  sambaSAMAccount information.  I have had several users also request a copy
  of this script from me solving their problems with a similar issue.  It
  seems very odd that there are so many similar issues lately on the posts
  concerning the (I can't connect to the Domain).  Had it not been for the
  fact I decided to look at the script itself I would not have found this
  problem.  Going to the IDEALX site I would love to send them comments but
 as
  my French is very minimal not too sure where to go.
  
  Thanks
  
  James
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:09 AM
  To: James Taylor
  Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
  
  James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
  smbldap-useradd script.
  
  There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
  perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
  that but I assure you that most versions aren't.
  
  Craig
  
  On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
   The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have
 the
   objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
  user
   add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
  that
   the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
  includes
   that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
  is
   not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file
 if
   you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
   
   James
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
   Of Daniel Tousignant
   Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
   To: samba@lists.samba.org
   Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
   
   We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
   Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
   members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
   and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
   a windows xp workstation to the domain.
   Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 
   
   Thank you
   
   
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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread James Taylor
Just reported it to IDEALX.  My IE Client did not show the convert to
English function but when you made the comment I swiped my mouse over the
screen and it showed me the link.  I should load Mozilla on this box.

Thanks

James

-Original Message-
From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:27 AM
To: James Taylor
Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

You still should report the problem and your 'fix' to wherever you got
the smbldap-tools package from, be it your distribution or idealx.com

FWIW, I have never seen this issue myself and while I generally use
tools other than idealx to manage users/groups, I do add machines on the
fly which does use the idealx script to accomplish and is the discussion
item...adding machine accounts and getting the proper attributes. This
of course does require a properly configured smbldap-tools configuration
for both 'binding' to LDAP and for attributes, the configuration of
which has been split into 2 files for some time now.

Idealx.com - as I said, the 'English flag' button at the top right takes
you to their English language site.

As for the wiki - that belongs to you - the users - we just try to
maintain some semblance of order.

Craig

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 11:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
 Cool, will post on your wiki...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:58 AM
 To: James Taylor
 Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
 
 #1 - click on the 'English flag' button - et voila, English
 
 #2 - you should at least state which smbldap-tools you are speaking of
 that you have fixed so others have a chance to compare and where you got
 it from, idealx.com or from your distribution, and report the issue to
 the place where it came from.
 
 #3 - people are likely to ask you for if they are struggling and they
 don't know why and you authoritatively suggest that your solution will
 fix things for them. I think we had a very recent issue where that
 wasn't the problem but the problem lied in his pam/ldap.conf.
 
 #4 - suggesting that people do a complete replace the file that came
 packaged with their system by one that you have modified doesn't seem
 like the best solution at all...you could offer a 'patch' which should
 throw up an alert if the file looks different or just the suggestions
 about where you have modified the code and why...in fact, we have a wiki
 for that kind of stuff now... http://wiki.samba.org
 
 Craig
 
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:22 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
  I know that the last 2 versions of the script I am working with are
 missing
  this function when using the -w switch (as documented) it will NOT add
the
  sambaSAMAccount information.  I have had several users also request a
copy
  of this script from me solving their problems with a similar issue.  It
  seems very odd that there are so many similar issues lately on the posts
  concerning the (I can't connect to the Domain).  Had it not been for the
  fact I decided to look at the script itself I would not have found this
  problem.  Going to the IDEALX site I would love to send them comments
but
 as
  my French is very minimal not too sure where to go.
  
  Thanks
  
  James
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:09 AM
  To: James Taylor
  Cc: 'Daniel Tousignant'; samba@lists.samba.org
  Subject: RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
  
  James - this is the second time you have made that reference to the
  smbldap-useradd script.
  
  There have been a lot and lot of versions of the smbldap-tools and
  perhaps the version that you are looking at is missing something like
  that but I assure you that most versions aren't.
  
  Craig
  
  On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:03 -0800, James Taylor wrote:
   The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have
 the
   objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
  user
   add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
  that
   the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
  includes
   that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount
information
  is
   not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified
file
 if
   you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.
   
   James
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
   Of Daniel Tousignant
   Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
   To: samba@lists.samba.org
   Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP
   
   We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
   Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
   members of the group Domain Users can not login

Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Daniel Tousignant
The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
with
the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
ldap
group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the domain,
but not 
when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
difference for Samba
between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?

James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
user
add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
that
the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
includes
that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
is
not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.

James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Daniel Tousignant
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
a windows xp workstation to the domain.
Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 

Thank you


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RE: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread James Taylor
It could be ACL's but I am wondering how your /etc/ldap.conf file looks.
Also, does the Domain Users group have the sambaGroupMapping objectClass?
Also is it associated with the right samba Domain under the sambaSID?
Otherwise the domain won't refer to that group.

James

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:08 PM
To: James Taylor
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
with
the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
ldap
group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the domain,
but not 
when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
difference for Samba
between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?

James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
user
add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
that
the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
includes
that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
is
not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file if
you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.

James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Daniel Tousignant
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
a windows xp workstation to the domain.
Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 

Thank you


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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
 created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
 with
 the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
 What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
 ldap
 group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the domain,
 but not 
 when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
 difference for Samba
 between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?

not very likely to be an ACL problem.

net groupmap list|grep Domain

net getlocalsid

why don't you post up what comes from those commands...

Craig

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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Daniel Tousignant
The only thing that is configured in the ldap.conf file is the 
Base(dc=INTAIR, dc=transit) and Host (localhost) (with no SSL support).
And yes, the objectclass is there with the right sambaSID.
By the way the tools are the IDEALX 0.9.1

James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
It could be ACL's but I am wondering how your /etc/ldap.conf file looks.
Also, does the Domain Users group have the sambaGroupMapping objectClass?
Also is it associated with the right samba Domain under the sambaSID?
Otherwise the domain won't refer to that group.

James

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:08 PM
To: James Taylor
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
with
the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
ldap
group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the domain,
but not 
when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
difference for Samba
between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?

James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
The LDAP users you have created (including the machines) need to have the
objectclass: sambaSAMAccount and the subsequent fields.  What are your
user
add scripts and machine add scripts you are using.  Also, I have found
that
the IDEALX tools have an error in the smbldap-useradd script which
includes
that when you use the add machine switch the sambaSAMAccount information
is
not added to the LDAP database.  I do have a copy of this modified file
if
you need it.  Otherwise if you can edit the script yourself.

James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Daniel Tousignant
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

We use samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6
Members of the ldap group Domain Admins are working fine, but
members of the group Domain Users can not login to the domain,
and do not have access to the shares. Also, we are unable to join
a windows xp workstation to the domain.
Can anyone give me a hint where to start looking ... 

Thank you


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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Daniel Tousignant
Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
 created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
 with
 the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
 What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
 ldap
 group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
domain,
 but not 
 when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
 difference for Samba
 between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?

not very likely to be an ACL problem.

net groupmap list|grep Domain

Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
Users
Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
Guests
Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
Admins
Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) - Domain
Machines


net getlocalsid

[2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
  Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE



why don't you post up what comes from those commands...

Craig



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Re: [Samba] Domain authentification problem with LDAP

2006-03-17 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 16:14 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
 Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
 On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:08 -0500, Daniel Tousignant wrote:
  The objectclass sambaSAMAccount and subsequent fields have been
  created. We are using the standard perl script tools that are installed
  with
  the mandriva 2006 distro (samba 3.0.13 and openldap 2.3.6).
  What I really do not understand is that if I put a user in the standard
  ldap
  group Domain Admins (gid=512), the user is able to logon to the
 domain,
  but not 
  when it is in the Domain Users group (gid=513). What is the big
  difference for Samba
  between the two's ? Can it be an ACL problems ?
 
 not very likely to be an ACL problem.
 
 net groupmap list|grep Domain
 
 Domain Users (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-513) - Domain
 Users
 Domain Guests (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-514) - Domain
 Guests
 Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-512) - Domain
 Admins
 Domain Machines (S-1-5-21-3194588850-3670737847-3710085093-515) - Domain
 Machines
 
 
 net getlocalsid
 
 [2006/03/17 16:09:20, 0] utils/net.c:net_getlocalsid(494)
   Can't fetch domain SID for name: HIPPOLYTE

this is a MAJOR problem...it should look like

dn: sambaDomainName=EXAMPLE,dc=example,dc=net
sambaAlgorithmicRidBase: 1000
structuralObjectClass: sambaDomain
objectClass: sambaDomain
objectClass: sambaUnixIdPool
sambaSID: S-1-5-21-89274850-471284788-6498272
sambaDomainName: EXAMPLE
gidNumber: 1021
uidNumber: 1095

and should have been created either by hand or by idealx 'populate'
script if you followed someones directions somewhere.

Craig

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