RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-19 Thread Brandon Lederer
Quickbooks is SO slow, we are having all of the same issues listed here.
Our QB file is about 250 MB and is slow as a turtle.  It is nearly unusable
in a networked environment.  If i put the file on the Local Machine, it is
fine.  It is only Slightly faster on a win2k server, i believe.  Im not
convinced its samba by any stretch.  But can anyone reccomend a better
product, cuz this product (QB) is terrible.

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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-19 Thread Justin Kreger
How about mas90?
/me runs

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 14:31, Brandon Lederer wrote:
 Quickbooks is SO slow, we are having all of the same issues listed here.
 Our QB file is about 250 MB and is slow as a turtle.  It is nearly unusable
 in a networked environment.  If i put the file on the Local Machine, it is
 fine.  It is only Slightly faster on a win2k server, i believe.  Im not
 convinced its samba by any stretch.  But can anyone reccomend a better
 product, cuz this product (QB) is terrible.
 
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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-19 Thread Mark
Another possible cause, from a windows newsgroup though..
http://tinyurl.com/er42

Go to google groups and type in 2 keywords: QuickBooks slow
You will have a lot of reading to do...there are some good suggestions
out there.

Quickbooks is SO slow, we are having all of the same issues listed here.
Our QB file is about 250 MB and is slow as a turtle.  It is nearly
unusable in a networked environment.  If i put the file on the Local
Machine, it is fine.  It is only Slightly faster on a win2k server, i
believe.  Im not convinced its samba by any stretch.  But can anyone
reccomend a better product, cuz this product (QB) is terrible.

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From: Justin Kreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-19 Thread Brandon Lederer
Disabling Norton AV made no noticeable difference.

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From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:11 PM
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Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


Another possible cause, from a windows newsgroup though..
http://tinyurl.com/er42

Go to google groups and type in 2 keywords: QuickBooks slow
You will have a lot of reading to do...there are some good suggestions
out there.

Quickbooks is SO slow, we are having all of the same issues listed here.
Our QB file is about 250 MB and is slow as a turtle.  It is nearly
unusable in a networked environment.  If i put the file on the Local
Machine, it is fine.  It is only Slightly faster on a win2k server, i
believe.  Im not convinced its samba by any stretch.  But can anyone
reccomend a better product, cuz this product (QB) is terrible.

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Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-19 Thread Scott Shackelford
We've had pretty good luck with Peachtree Complete with SAMBA (2.3.6). (It
doesn't like opportunistic locks though.) We've had very good success even
with large databases. Our 130MB database just breezes with speed with 5
Peachtree users. (This is running on a UnixWare 7.1.2 box,(Dell) Dual PIII
1.2 GHz XEON with RAID 5 and 1 GB RAM)

-Scott Shackelford


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 Disabling Norton AV made no noticeable difference.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:11 PM
 To: 'Brandon Lederer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


 Another possible cause, from a windows newsgroup though..
 http://tinyurl.com/er42

 Go to google groups and type in 2 keywords: QuickBooks slow
 You will have a lot of reading to do...there are some good suggestions
 out there.

 Quickbooks is SO slow, we are having all of the same issues listed here.
 Our QB file is about 250 MB and is slow as a turtle.  It is nearly
 unusable in a networked environment.  If i put the file on the Local
 Machine, it is fine.  It is only Slightly faster on a win2k server, i
 believe.  Im not convinced its samba by any stretch.  But can anyone
 reccomend a better product, cuz this product (QB) is terrible.

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Kreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-18 Thread drgn65
I don't know what your setup is but here is mine.
I run samba 2.2.7.  I don't use oplocks on my share that QuickBooks is on.
You most definately don't want to.  Other than that I have a pretty basic
setup.  I did not notice any difference between the file on my linux server
(primary file server) or on a Win2000 Server share.  What version of
QuickBooks are you using?  How many users on your network?  How many users
accessing QuickBooks?  Does your linux server run a lot of other server
daemons?

-Original Message-
From: Justin Kreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


What about file locking?

I've run into lots of file locking problems, leading me to slowly just
turn off file locking on several shares due to quickbooks.  My user also
reports that quickbooks is now slower since I took the server to
linux/samba from the win2k server that was limited to .

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have QucikBooks on our network too.  I have had a number of problems
with
 this crappy software.  If my client actually wanted me too I'd rather
create
 my own accounting software with a better interface and a mysql backend but
 that isn't going to happen.  A few things with QuickBooks that I have
 noticed that maybe will help.

 #1. QuickBooks in multi-user mode is much slower than in single user mode.
 This is the (crappy) design of QuickBooks.  It has to do with the fact
that
 QuickBooks checks everything everywhere when in multiuser mode to make
sure
 that no data gets corrupted (even though it has corrupted before).  Our
 company datafile is around ~180mb.

 #2. This problem will not be solved easily at all.  Quickbooks appears to
be
 as slow as the weakest client link.  In our case a P2 300 w/ 64 megs of
ram.
 Again, this has to do with #1.

 #3. Upgrading Quickbooks won't help.  We've had many versions in the past
 and currently run the Enterprise Edition.  It still can be as slow as a
 turtle under certain operations.

 #4. My biggest complain with this software is that it requires it's users
to
 be Power Users.  Boy do I hate that With samba it's very difficult
for
 me to limit a Power user's ability and I have had people take advantge of
it
 repeatedly.  Damn QuickBooks

 -Peter

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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-18 Thread Tom McKellips
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:30:26 -0400, drgn65 wrote
 I don't know what your setup is but here is mine.
 I run samba 2.2.7.  I don't use oplocks on my share that QuickBooks 
 is on. You most definately don't want to.  Other than that I have a 
 pretty basic setup.  I did not notice any difference between the 
 file on my linux server
 (primary file server) or on a Win2000 Server share.  What version of 
 QuickBooks are you using?  How many users on your network?  How many 
 users accessing QuickBooks?  Does your linux server run a lot of 
 other server daemons?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Kreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited
 
 What about file locking?
 
 I've run into lots of file locking problems, leading me to slowly 
 just turn off file locking on several shares due to quickbooks.  My 
 user also reports that quickbooks is now slower since I took the 
 server to linux/samba from the win2k server that was limited to .
 
 On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have QucikBooks on our network too.  I have had a number of problems
 with
  this crappy software.  If my client actually wanted me too I'd rather
 create
  my own accounting software with a better interface and a mysql backend but
  that isn't going to happen.  A few things with QuickBooks that I have
  noticed that maybe will help.
 
  #1. QuickBooks in multi-user mode is much slower than in single user mode.
  This is the (crappy) design of QuickBooks.  It has to do with the fact
 that
  QuickBooks checks everything everywhere when in multiuser mode to make
 sure
  that no data gets corrupted (even though it has corrupted before).  Our
  company datafile is around ~180mb.
 
  #2. This problem will not be solved easily at all.  Quickbooks appears to
 be
  as slow as the weakest client link.  In our case a P2 300 w/ 64 megs of
 ram.
  Again, this has to do with #1.
 
  #3. Upgrading Quickbooks won't help.  We've had many versions in the past
  and currently run the Enterprise Edition.  It still can be as slow as a
  turtle under certain operations.
 
  #4. My biggest complain with this software is that it requires it's users
 to
  be Power Users.  Boy do I hate that With samba it's very difficult
 for
  me to limit a Power user's ability and I have had people take advantge of
 it
  repeatedly.  Damn QuickBooks
 
  -Peter
 
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I have to agree, we use QB also and it is crap when it comes to networking 
it. I have set Samba in various configs and QB does not seem to improve. 
Maybee we all need to put a big letter together signed by all of the Linux 
users demanding Intuit to improve this product, remove the constant ads and 
compile it for the Linux desktop... It's a nice dream at least.

Tom
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RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-18 Thread Mark
I recall the issue with quickbooks (and a fix) from a
comp.os.linux.security post from last year. I am not sure if will help
in this particular case, but take a look.

http://tinyurl.com/eowl

Regards,
Mark

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Behalf Of Tom McKellips
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited


On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:30:26 -0400, drgn65 wrote
 I don't know what your setup is but here is mine.
 I run samba 2.2.7.  I don't use oplocks on my share that QuickBooks
 is on. You most definately don't want to.  Other than that I have a 
 pretty basic setup.  I did not notice any difference between the 
 file on my linux server
 (primary file server) or on a Win2000 Server share.  What version of 
 QuickBooks are you using?  How many users on your network?  How many 
 users accessing QuickBooks?  Does your linux server run a lot of 
 other server daemons?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Kreger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited
 
 What about file locking?
 
 I've run into lots of file locking problems, leading me to slowly
 just turn off file locking on several shares due to quickbooks.  My 
 user also reports that quickbooks is now slower since I took the 
 server to linux/samba from the win2k server that was limited to .
 
 On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have QucikBooks on our network too.  I have had a number of 
  problems
 with
  this crappy software.  If my client actually wanted me too I'd 
  rather
 create
  my own accounting software with a better interface and a mysql 
  backend but that isn't going to happen.  A few things with 
  QuickBooks that I have noticed that maybe will help.
 
  #1. QuickBooks in multi-user mode is much slower than in single user

  mode. This is the (crappy) design of QuickBooks.  It has to do with 
  the fact
 that
  QuickBooks checks everything everywhere when in multiuser mode to 
  make
 sure
  that no data gets corrupted (even though it has corrupted before).  
  Our company datafile is around ~180mb.
 
  #2. This problem will not be solved easily at all.  Quickbooks 
  appears to
 be
  as slow as the weakest client link.  In our case a P2 300 w/ 64 megs

  of
 ram.
  Again, this has to do with #1.
 
  #3. Upgrading Quickbooks won't help.  We've had many versions in the

  past and currently run the Enterprise Edition.  It still can be as

  slow as a turtle under certain operations.
 
  #4. My biggest complain with this software is that it requires it's 
  users
 to
  be Power Users.  Boy do I hate that With samba it's very 
  difficult
 for
  me to limit a Power user's ability and I have had people take 
  advantge of
 it
  repeatedly.  Damn QuickBooks
 
  -Peter
 
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I have to agree, we use QB also and it is crap when it comes to
networking 
it. I have set Samba in various configs and QB does not seem to improve.

Maybee we all need to put a big letter together signed by all of the
Linux 
users demanding Intuit to improve this product, remove the constant ads
and 
compile it for the Linux desktop... It's a nice dream at least.

Tom
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Re: [Samba] Quickbooks revisited

2003-06-17 Thread Justin Kreger
What about file locking?

I've run into lots of file locking problems, leading me to slowly just
turn off file locking on several shares due to quickbooks.  My user also
reports that quickbooks is now slower since I took the server to
linux/samba from the win2k server that was limited to .

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have QucikBooks on our network too.  I have had a number of problems with
 this crappy software.  If my client actually wanted me too I'd rather create
 my own accounting software with a better interface and a mysql backend but
 that isn't going to happen.  A few things with QuickBooks that I have
 noticed that maybe will help.
 
 #1. QuickBooks in multi-user mode is much slower than in single user mode.
 This is the (crappy) design of QuickBooks.  It has to do with the fact that
 QuickBooks checks everything everywhere when in multiuser mode to make sure
 that no data gets corrupted (even though it has corrupted before).  Our
 company datafile is around ~180mb.
 
 #2. This problem will not be solved easily at all.  Quickbooks appears to be
 as slow as the weakest client link.  In our case a P2 300 w/ 64 megs of ram.
 Again, this has to do with #1.
 
 #3. Upgrading Quickbooks won't help.  We've had many versions in the past
 and currently run the Enterprise Edition.  It still can be as slow as a
 turtle under certain operations.
 
 #4. My biggest complain with this software is that it requires it's users to
 be Power Users.  Boy do I hate that With samba it's very difficult for
 me to limit a Power user's ability and I have had people take advantge of it
 repeatedly.  Damn QuickBooks
 
 -Peter


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