RE: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-14 Thread Jonathan Johnson

 So my question is this:  Can I bring up a Windows 2k3
 machine as a member server in the Samba domain.  Promote 
 it to become an AD Domain Controller in mixed mode - 
 retaining the domain SID, user and machine accounts 
 and such so that I do not have to touch my workstations

Oh, that sounds like an exercise in banging your head against the wall.

I have done similar migrations. You will want to use Microsoft's Active 
Directory Migration Tool. You'll also want to investigate the moveuser.exe 
utility available from Microsoft. Both can be downloaded from Microsoft.com. 
I've written extensively on the forums how to use these to go from Samba to 
ADS; search for it. Keywords to look for:

* Active Directory Migration Tool
* ADMT
* Jonathan Johnson (hey! That's me!)
* moveuser or moveuser.exe (may or may not be useful)

The big advantage of ADMT is that it will migrate user permissions and profiles 
such that the migration is relatively transparent to the users.

Once you've found  read the documentation, feel free to drop me a line if you 
have any more questions. (If it's obvious to me that you didn't read the docs, 
I might not respond. :-)

-Jonathan Johnson
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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Collins, Kevin wrote:

 So my question is this:  Can I bring up a Windows 2k3 
 machine as a member server in the Samba domain.  Promote it
 to become an AD Domain Controller in mixed mode - retaining
 the domain SID, user and machine accounts and such so
 that I do not have to touch my workstations?

Nope.  Sorry.







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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Johnson


Collins, Kevin wrote:

Four years ago, I migrated our network from Windows NT based servers to
Linux, Samba+LDAP based setups.  This setup has worked fine.  Last year,
we replaced our Exchange 5.5 server - the last real Windows  server -
with Scalix.  This last decision has come back to bite me.

Several new thingys that the boss wants, among other things, are
forcing me to implement Exchange 2003.  Because I know that Exchange
2003 requires AD and my company has three offices separated by a WAN,
I'm going to be forced to rip out my Samba underpinnings.  The fact is,
I don't know the best way to accomplish this.

I know the one way that this will work is to bring up an AD domain
beside the Samba domain and move things around by hand - but that is
going to cause a unbelievable nightmare with user profiles, and machine
accounts, and all the other crap that goes along with being part of a
domain.

So my question is this:  Can I bring up a Windows 2k3 machine as a
member server in the Samba domain.  Promote it to become an AD Domain
Controller in mixed mode - retaining the domain SID, user and machine
accounts and such so that I do not have to touch my workstations?

  
I really curious what features of Exchange 2003 you have to have.  We 
started with Exchange 5.5, migrated to Oracle Collaboration Suite.  
Threw that out and now use E-Groupware for collaboration with LDAP and 
Samba for the rest.  We also use open source for our phone system so 
integrating it all together hasn't been bad.


Hate to see someone go the other direction :)

Mark
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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread marcos rocha

Hi Collins,

I think you can do this but it would be easier if you
try to upgrade a windows server instead of install a
windows server.
I will explain:

- samba server is compatible with windows NT 4 domain,
so install a windows NT 4 BDC in your samba domain
- with thi done, tested and approved - upgrade this
windows NT 4 BDC to windows 2003 domain controller.

I think that if you try to install windows 2003 as a
domain controller of your samba's domain you will get
problem when w2k3 starts the syncronization process
and try to copy/replicate the domain objects.

Marcos

--- Collins, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Four years ago, I migrated our network from Windows
 NT based servers to
 Linux, Samba+LDAP based setups.  This setup has
 worked fine.  Last year,
 we replaced our Exchange 5.5 server - the last
 real Windows  server -
 with Scalix.  This last decision has come back to
 bite me.
 
 Several new thingys that the boss wants, among
 other things, are
 forcing me to implement Exchange 2003.  Because I
 know that Exchange
 2003 requires AD and my company has three offices
 separated by a WAN,
 I'm going to be forced to rip out my Samba
 underpinnings.  The fact is,
 I don't know the best way to accomplish this.
 
 I know the one way that this will work is to bring
 up an AD domain
 beside the Samba domain and move things around by
 hand - but that is
 going to cause a unbelievable nightmare with user
 profiles, and machine
 accounts, and all the other crap that goes along
 with being part of a
 domain.
 
 So my question is this:  Can I bring up a Windows
 2k3 machine as a
 member server in the Samba domain.  Promote it to
 become an AD Domain
 Controller in mixed mode - retaining the domain SID,
 user and machine
 accounts and such so that I do not have to touch my
 workstations?
 
 
 --
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 Systems Manager
 Nesbitt Engineering, Inc.
 
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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread simo
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 15:24 +, marcos rocha wrote:
 Hi Collins,
 
 I think you can do this but it would be easier if you
 try to upgrade a windows server instead of install a
 windows server.
 I will explain:
 
 - samba server is compatible with windows NT 4 domain,
 so install a windows NT 4 BDC in your samba domain

This will not work, samba3 does not support native NT4 replication
mechanism unfortunately, so an NT4 BDC will not help you out.

Simo.

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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread Doug VanLeuven

Collins, Kevin wrote:

Four years ago, I migrated our network from Windows NT based servers to
Linux, Samba+LDAP based setups.  This setup has worked fine.  Last year,
we replaced our Exchange 5.5 server - the last real Windows  server -
with Scalix.  This last decision has come back to bite me.


You may find it is more cost justified to replace Scalix with some
other opensource exchange.  I can't find my reference links right
now, but there have lately been breakthroughs in compatibility
from multiple organizations.

Regards, Doug
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Re: [Samba] Removing Samba+LDAP, replacing W2k3+AD

2006-06-13 Thread Henrik Zagerholm

Regarding Scalix have you looked at PostPath?

Cheers, Henrik
13 jun 2006 kl. 19:29 skrev Doug VanLeuven:


Collins, Kevin wrote:
Four years ago, I migrated our network from Windows NT based  
servers to
Linux, Samba+LDAP based setups.  This setup has worked fine.  Last  
year,
we replaced our Exchange 5.5 server - the last real Windows   
server -

with Scalix.  This last decision has come back to bite me.


You may find it is more cost justified to replace Scalix with some
other opensource exchange.  I can't find my reference links right
now, but there have lately been breakthroughs in compatibility
from multiple organizations.

Regards, Doug
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