Re: [sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[monkity]

Thanks, Olaf, now the scanner is recognized.  But I am still unable to get
it to scan.  I'm getting a new USB cable and will verify it works on
Windows before trying what Rolf suggested (which is frankly still outside
my skillset).  If I can't get the scanner to actually scan soon I will
probably return the all-in-one, which I think would be a shame, but I just
don't have the time to fight with this thing much longer.  Maybe another
week.

I really appreciate your help getting me to this point though!
Scott

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen 
wrote:

> Scott writes:
>
> > Olaf, thank you for your continued help.  Yes, I am a newbie to this
> > driver business among many things.
> >
> > On 12/03/2015 04:52 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> monkity writes:
> >>
> >>> Hi Olaf,
> >>>
> >>> Olaf writes:
> >>>
>  [...]
>  Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that
> support
>  for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.
> > [...]
> >>
> >> Once downloaded, run
> >>
> >>$ sudo dpkg -i libsane-1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
> >>
> >> and you should be good to go.
> >
> > So I ended up trying to install both i386 and amd64 versions. When I
> > updated these, I got errors, and had to fix broken packages. After I did
> > that, my SANE installation didn't work and the query you gave me gave
> > the following result, even after removing SANE and reinstalling it.
>
> Sorry.  I tried to take a shortcut and you ended up with a "mess".
> Let's see if we can clean that up.
>
> Please read this mail to the end before you start doing stuff.
>
> > $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> > libsane:amd64 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1
> > libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
>
> That surprised me a bit so I pulled down the Linux Mint 17.2 64bit image
> and fired up a virtual machine to make sure that I knew what is going
> on.  Looks like Linux Mint installs a number of packages for both 32 and
> 64 bit architectures and libsane is one of them.
>
> > So I then redid the command on the amd64 deb:
> >
> > $ sudo dpkg -i libsane_1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
> > [...]
> > libsane:amd64 depends on libsane-common (= 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2);
> however:
> > Version of libsane-common on system is 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1.
> > libsane:amd64 depends on libgphoto2-port12 (>= 2.5.6); however:
> > Package libgphoto2-port12 is not installed.
> >
> > dpkg: error processing package libsane:amd64 (--install):
> > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > libsane:amd64
>
> I obviously forgot about the libsane dependencies.  My bad.
> I have reproduced your situation in that virtual machine of mine.
>
> > Now my query came out as follows:
> > $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> > libsane:amd64 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
> > libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
>
> To back out of this, use:
>
>   sudo apt-get install libsane=1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1
> libsane:i386=1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1
>
> This will downgrade the currently "installed" versions and get you back
> to a clean slate.  You can check with:
>
>   sudo dpkg --audit
>
> Things are okay if that produces no output.
>
> Now on to getting the libsane package from Ubuntu's wily installed.
>
> > SANE is still not recognizing my Canon.  Do the errors above give you
> > any new ideas for me to try?
>
> First let's add the Ubuntu repositories to your list of package archives
> the way it's supposed to be done.  Copy the attached 00-ubuntu-wily.list
> to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and update your available package
> information, like so
>
>   sudo cp 00-ubuntu-wily.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d
>   sudo apt-get update
>
> This should download a couple of files from archive.ubuntu.com.
>
> Next, lest you end up turning your Linux Mint into Ubuntu's wily almost
> completely ;-), copy the attached 00-ubuntu-wily.pref to
> /etc/apt/preferences.d/
>
>   sudo cp 00-ubuntu-wily.pref /etc/apt/preferences.d
>
> Now we are ready to:
>
>   sudo apt-get install -t wily libsane
>
> I tried this on my virtual machine and all went well.  Hope it will for
> you to.
>
> In case you are curious about what's going on, have a look at the
> following manual pages (using the man command):
>
>   sources.list
>   apt_preferences
>   apt-get
>
> Hope this helps,
> --
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Re: [sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Scott writes:

> Olaf, thank you for your continued help.  Yes, I am a newbie to this 
> driver business among many things.
>
> On 12/03/2015 04:52 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> monkity writes:
>>
>>> Hi Olaf,
>>>
>>> Olaf writes:
>>>
 [...]
 Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that support
 for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.
> [...]
>>
>> Once downloaded, run
>>
>>$ sudo dpkg -i libsane-1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
>>
>> and you should be good to go.
>
> So I ended up trying to install both i386 and amd64 versions. When I 
> updated these, I got errors, and had to fix broken packages. After I did 
> that, my SANE installation didn't work and the query you gave me gave 
> the following result, even after removing SANE and reinstalling it.

Sorry.  I tried to take a shortcut and you ended up with a "mess".
Let's see if we can clean that up.

Please read this mail to the end before you start doing stuff.

> $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> libsane:amd64 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1
> libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2

That surprised me a bit so I pulled down the Linux Mint 17.2 64bit image
and fired up a virtual machine to make sure that I knew what is going
on.  Looks like Linux Mint installs a number of packages for both 32 and
64 bit architectures and libsane is one of them.

> So I then redid the command on the amd64 deb:
>
> $ sudo dpkg -i libsane_1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
> [...]
> libsane:amd64 depends on libsane-common (= 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2); 
> however:
> Version of libsane-common on system is 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1.
> libsane:amd64 depends on libgphoto2-port12 (>= 2.5.6); however:
> Package libgphoto2-port12 is not installed.
>
> dpkg: error processing package libsane:amd64 (--install):
> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> libsane:amd64

I obviously forgot about the libsane dependencies.  My bad.
I have reproduced your situation in that virtual machine of mine.

> Now my query came out as follows:
> $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> libsane:amd64 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
> libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2

To back out of this, use:

  sudo apt-get install libsane=1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1 libsane:i386=1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1

This will downgrade the currently "installed" versions and get you back
to a clean slate.  You can check with:

  sudo dpkg --audit

Things are okay if that produces no output.

Now on to getting the libsane package from Ubuntu's wily installed.

> SANE is still not recognizing my Canon.  Do the errors above give you 
> any new ideas for me to try?

First let's add the Ubuntu repositories to your list of package archives
the way it's supposed to be done.  Copy the attached 00-ubuntu-wily.list
to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and update your available package
information, like so

  sudo cp 00-ubuntu-wily.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d
  sudo apt-get update

This should download a couple of files from archive.ubuntu.com.

Next, lest you end up turning your Linux Mint into Ubuntu's wily almost
completely ;-), copy the attached 00-ubuntu-wily.pref to
/etc/apt/preferences.d/

  sudo cp 00-ubuntu-wily.pref /etc/apt/preferences.d

Now we are ready to:

  sudo apt-get install -t wily libsane

I tried this on my virtual machine and all went well.  Hope it will for
you to.

In case you are curious about what's going on, have a look at the
following manual pages (using the man command):

  sources.list
  apt_preferences
  apt-get

Hope this helps,
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Re: [sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[Rolf Bensch]

Hi,

Beside all installation issues, please don't forget that this scanner
has the status "Untested"
(http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html#S-PIXMA).

This means that this scanner may *NOT* work until some bug fixing will
happen.

I'm sorry, but I cannot supply any support for the Pixma backend until
my Chistmas holidays.

In the meantime you can sniff the USB protocols from a Windows machine.
You can use a pysical or a virtual machine. Usually I'm using Wireshark
with USBPcap (https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB) for this job.

Please compress the log files. The mailing list rejects large emails.

Hope this helps so far.

Cheers,
Rolf

Am 04.12.2015 um 02:05 schrieb Scott:
> Olaf, thank you for your continued help.  Yes, I am a newbie to this
> driver business among many things.
>
>
> On 12/03/2015 04:52 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> monkity writes:
>>
>>> Hi Olaf,
>>>
>>> Olaf writes:
>>>
 [...]
 Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that
 support
 for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.

 Seeing that you are using Linux Mint, I *guess* that you get your SANE
 backends via the Ubuntu package archives.  The version in Ubuntu's
 wily
 (1.0.25+git20150528) appears to be new enough.
 # The Changelog mention the addition on 2015-04-03.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately nothing is that easy.  Mint doesn't download the 1.0.25
>>> backend with SANE; in fact it doesn't seem to do anything with respect
>>> to backends.  I'm afraid I'm going to have to build the backend from
>>> scratch, and I have no experience with this.
>>> I did find a copy of 1.0.25 on
>>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/pst/sane.html.
>>> That page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane, and others aren't
>>> really designed for Mint and newbies though.  Where should I start?
>>
>> Uh-oh, newbie alert ;-)
>>
>> First, check that you have the libsane package installed.  From a
>> terminal, run
>>
>>$ dpkg-query -W libsane
>>
>> If that produces something like
>>
>>libsane:amd641.0.25-2
>>
>> things look good.  If, instead you get something like
>>
>>dpkg-query: no packages found matching libsane
>>
>> there is more work to do but I assume for now that libsane is found.
>> # If not, stop here and get back to me via the mailing list.
>>
>> In that case, you can probably get away with downloading the Ubuntu
>> libsane package from
>>
>>http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libsane
>>
>> Just make sure to pick the correct architecture.
>>
>> Once downloaded, run
>>
>>$ sudo dpkg -i libsane-1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
>>
>> and you should be good to go.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>
> So I ended up trying to install both i386 and amd64 versions. When I
> updated these, I got errors, and had to fix broken packages. After I
> did that, my SANE installation didn't work and the query you gave me
> gave the following result, even after removing SANE and reinstalling it.
>
> $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> libsane:amd64 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1
> libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
>
> So I then redid the command on the amd64 deb:
>
> $ sudo dpkg -i libsane_1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
> [sudo] password for flibberty:
> (Reading database ... 194182 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to unpack libsane_1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
> Unpacking libsane:amd64 (1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2) over
> (1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1) ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libsane:amd64:
> libsane:amd64 depends on libsane-common (=
> 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2); however:
> Version of libsane-common on system is 1.0.23-3ubuntu3.1.
> libsane:amd64 depends on libgphoto2-port12 (>= 2.5.6); however:
> Package libgphoto2-port12 is not installed.
>
> dpkg: error processing package libsane:amd64 (--install):
> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> libsane:amd64
>
> Now my query came out as follows:
> $ dpkg-query -W libsane
> libsane:amd64 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
> libsane:i386 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2
>
> SANE is still not recognizing my Canon.  Do the errors above give you
> any new ideas for me to try?
>
> Thanks again,
> Scott
>
>



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Re: [sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Hi Scott,

monkity writes:

> Hi Olaf,
>
> Olaf writes:
>
>> [...]
>>Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that support
>>for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.
>>
>>Seeing that you are using Linux Mint, I *guess* that you get your SANE
>>backends via the Ubuntu package archives.  The version in Ubuntu's wily
>>(1.0.25+git20150528) appears to be new enough.
>># The Changelog mention the addition on 2015-04-03.
>
> Unfortunately nothing is that easy.  Mint doesn't download the 1.0.25
> backend with SANE; in fact it doesn't seem to do anything with respect
> to backends.  I'm afraid I'm going to have to build the backend from
> scratch, and I have no experience with this.
> I did find a copy of 1.0.25 on
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/pst/sane.html.
> That page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane, and others aren't
> really designed for Mint and newbies though.  Where should I start?

Uh-oh, newbie alert ;-)

First, check that you have the libsane package installed.  From a
terminal, run

  $ dpkg-query -W libsane

If that produces something like

  libsane:amd641.0.25-2

things look good.  If, instead you get something like

  dpkg-query: no packages found matching libsane

there is more work to do but I assume for now that libsane is found.
# If not, stop here and get back to me via the mailing list.

In that case, you can probably get away with downloading the Ubuntu
libsane package from

  http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libsane

Just make sure to pick the correct architecture.

Once downloaded, run

  $ sudo dpkg -i libsane-1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb

and you should be good to go.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Hi Scott,

Scott writes:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a Linux Mint user and so is my father.  We're trying to set up an 
> all-in-one printer I bought today and have had good luck setting up on 
> the printer side, but not the scanner side.  I hoped SANE would do the 
> trick but the MF210 series for Canon isn't yet verified as working so 
> SANE isn't picking it up.  Allan directed me to the list, so I'm hoping 
> someone here can help.
>
> I should note that I only have about a month before I have to return the 
> equipment if I can't get a resolution.
>
> Anyone available and interested to help test this out and expand SANE's 
> reach?

Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that support
for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.

Seeing that you are using Linux Mint, I *guess* that you get your SANE
backends via the Ubuntu package archives.  The version in Ubuntu's wily
(1.0.25+git20150528) appears to be new enough.
# The Changelog mention the addition on 2015-04-03.

Hope this helps,
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[sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[monkity]

Hi Olaf,

Olaf writes:

>Hi Scott,
>
>Scott writes:
>
>>* Hello,
** I'm a Linux Mint user and so is my father.  We're trying to set up an
*>>* all-in-one printer I bought today and have had good luck setting up on
*>>* the printer side, but not the scanner side.  I hoped SANE would do the
*>>* trick but the MF210 series for Canon isn't yet verified as working so
*>>* SANE isn't picking it up.  Allan directed me to the list, so I'm hoping
*>>* someone here can help.
** I should note that I only have about a month before I have to return the
*>>* equipment if I can't get a resolution.
** Anyone available and interested to help test this out and expand SANE's
*>>* reach?
*>
>Have you tried sane-backends-1.0.25.  That versions claims that support
>for the MF210 Series was added to the pixma backend.
>
>Seeing that you are using Linux Mint, I *guess* that you get your SANE
>backends via the Ubuntu package archives.  The version in Ubuntu's wily
>(1.0.25+git20150528) appears to be new enough.
># The Changelog mention the addition on 2015-04-03.
>
>Hope this helps,
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>

Unfortunately nothing is that easy.  Mint doesn't download the 1.0.25 backend
with SANE; in fact it doesn't seem to do anything with respect to
backends.  I'm afraid
I'm going to have to build the backend from scratch, and I have no
experience with this.
I did find a copy of 1.0.25 on
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/pst/sane.html.
That page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane, and others aren't
really designed for
Mint and newbies though.  Where should I start?


Thanks again,


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[sane-devel] Canon MF212w Scanner and SANE

[Scott]

Hello,

I'm a Linux Mint user and so is my father.  We're trying to set up an 
all-in-one printer I bought today and have had good luck setting up on 
the printer side, but not the scanner side.  I hoped SANE would do the 
trick but the MF210 series for Canon isn't yet verified as working so 
SANE isn't picking it up.  Allan directed me to the list, so I'm hoping 
someone here can help.


I should note that I only have about a month before I have to return the 
equipment if I can't get a resolution.


Anyone available and interested to help test this out and expand SANE's 
reach?


Thanks,
Scott W


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