Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Modifying Savannah website

2009-05-11 Thread Sebastian Gerhardt
Hello Silvain,

I can't keep pace with the project submissions.
Many of them block too long because of the same issues again and again
and I blame this to the fact that Savannah's hosting requirements 
are somewhat scattered around all over GNU and Savannah. 

The checklist on the registration page is a good start but I think
it will need additional information. So I want to modify this page 
in a way that I hope will make it more clear that:

a) The project will be denied approval until all mandatory requirements
are met. Submissions that obviously ignore these points are disapproved
without further comment. 


b) All these hard requirements are listed in one place together.
If I remember correctly, we have at least three different places for
this as of now. 


I hope this will make the approval process more predictable to the
author and more effective for us.


Regards
Sebastian



On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 17:47 +0200, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
 On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 01:48:14PM +0200, Sebastian Gerhardt wrote:
  Hello,
  
  how can I edit the text on this webpage?
  https://savannah.gnu.org/register/
  
  Is there some option to edit it from within the browser
  like in a Wiki or do I have to join the Savane clean-up
  project team for this?
 
 The technical means is less important than what you want to modify.
 
 So what do you wish to change on this page?
 





[Savannah-hackers-public] Re: Enable Bazaar repository for a project

2009-05-11 Thread Sylvain Beucler
[switching to -public, as there's nothing security-critical]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:56:50AM -0400, Jonathan Gonzalez V. wrote:
 
 Hi Sylvain,
 
 I know that the bazaar support still in test, but how can enable a new
 bazaar repostiry? We use the front-end or just the command line?

Database :)
 UPDATE groups SET use_bzr=1 WHERE unix_group_name='XX';

-- 
Sylvain




Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Free forges

2009-05-11 Thread Sylvain Beucler
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:34:59AM +0200, Alex Fernandez wrote:
 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Sylvain Beucler b...@gnu.org wrote:
  I don't see the German BerliOS on either list, and it's an important
  site for OS. For the sake of completeness, could it be added?
 
  Only if the software they run on is published under a free license.
 
 Hmm, you are right; they are using a modified SourceForge version:
   http://developer.berlios.de/docman/display_doc.php?docid=28group_id=2
 But they are not publishing their changes.

Btw, LaunchPad is not going to free all their software eventually:
https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing

Only part of it.

(Those guys's logic is weird, they want to create a centralized
development website while SF is already 20x bigger. You'd expect they
want to develop decentralized collaboration as DVCS do..)

-- 
Sylvain




Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Free forges

2009-05-11 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:25:22PM +0200, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
 (Those guys's logic is weird, they want to create a centralized
 development website while SF is already 20x bigger. You'd expect they
 want to develop decentralized collaboration as DVCS do..)

Seems to me like they want to get Launchpad established as THE place to host
software (for some subset of their demographic) before releasing the code and
letting other people compete. Makes sense, if that's your priority.

-- 
Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater




Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Modifying Savannah website

2009-05-11 Thread Nicodemo Alvaro
On 5/11/09, Sebastian Gerhardt sebgerha...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello Silvain,

 I can't keep pace with the project submissions.
 Many of them block too long because of the same issues again and again
 and I blame this to the fact that Savannah's hosting requirements
 are somewhat scattered around all over GNU and Savannah.

 The checklist on the registration page is a good start but I think
 it will need additional information. So I want to modify this page
 in a way that I hope will make it more clear that:

 a) The project will be denied approval until all mandatory requirements
 are met. Submissions that obviously ignore these points are disapproved
 without further comment.


 b) All these hard requirements are listed in one place together.
 If I remember correctly, we have at least three different places for
 this as of now.


 I hope this will make the approval process more predictable to the
 author and more effective for us.

I think that the best source of information is already linked from
that page you wish to edit. I agree with that the requirments are
dispersed in different directions. I do not even see the number one
issue addressed in the requirements: copyright and license notices.

http://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php

I think if we wanted to have less people apply with projects that do
not meet the requirements, then at least a link to the requirements
should be placed on the front page. New users have little to go on
before they create a log in, as it is required to be authenticated to
view the /register/ location. For a new user to go through the process
and then find out about the requirements, might be pretty discouraging
and therefore taken less seriously.

You might want to place strong (bold), big, and emphasis html tags on
text that link to the requirements.

Perhaps, you may even go as far as to provide example projects that
fit the bill.

-- 
Nicodemo