Re: [SC-L] Bumper sticker definition of secure software

2006-07-16 Thread ljknews
At 3:27 PM -0400 7/15/06, Goertzel Karen wrote:
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 I've been struggling for a while to synthesise a definition of secure
software that is short and sweet, yet accurate and comprehensive. Here's
what I've come up with:

 Secure software is software that remains dependable despite efforts to
compromise its dependability.

 Agree? Disagree?

I disagree about that being bumper-sticker size, and I think we really
need bumper stickers.
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Larry Kilgallen
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Re: [SC-L] Bumper sticker definition of secure software

2006-07-16 Thread Gunnar Peterson
Secure software you're (not) soaking in it.


On 7/16/06 8:32 AM, mikeiscool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7/16/06, ljknews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 3:27 PM -0400 7/15/06, Goertzel Karen wrote:
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 I've been struggling for a while to synthesise a definition of secure
 software that is short and sweet, yet accurate and comprehensive. Here's
 what I've come up with:
 
 Secure software is software that remains dependable despite efforts to
 compromise its dependability.
 
 Agree? Disagree?
 
 I disagree about that being bumper-sticker size, and I think we really
 need bumper stickers.
 
 a better bumper sticker would be something like:
 
 secure software is what i write. call me now to find out how!
 
 ...
 
 i don't see the point of a short phrase. it's obvious what secure
 software is. software that has no bugs and no design faults.
 
 -- mic
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Re: [SC-L] Bumper sticker definition of secure software

2006-07-16 Thread Julie J.C.H. Ryan
So, if software is dependably bad and can dependably be counted on to  
fail, it's secure?

Especially if it resists attempts to compromise such dependability?


On Jul 15, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Goertzel Karen wrote:

 I've been struggling for a while to synthesise a definition of  
 secure software that is short and sweet, yet accurate and  
 comprehensive. Here's what I've come up with:

 Secure software is software that remains dependable despite efforts  
 to compromise its dependability.

 Agree? Disagree?

 --
 Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP
 Booz Allen Hamilton
 703-902-6981
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [SC-L] Bumper sticker definition of secure software

2006-07-16 Thread Crispin Cowan




Goertzel Karen wrote:

  
  
  "Bumper sticker" definition of secure software

  I've been struggling for a while to synthesise a
definition of secure software that is short and sweet, yet accurate and
comprehensive.

My favorite is by Ivan Arce, CTO of Core Software, coming out of a
discussion between him and I on a mailing list about 5 years ago.
Reliable software does what it is supposed to do. Secure
software does what it is supposed to do, and nothing else.

Crispin
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Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.  http://crispincowan.com/~crispin/
Director of Software Engineering, Novell  http://novell.com
 Necessity is the mother of invention ... except for pure math



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