Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Robert E. Blair
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 I dont't know how to install skype on my SL5. I don't even know which
 distribution I should download, since there are no Red Hat versions.
 Which dependencies will I need to install?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Craig Moore
Pedro,

For me I used the 'static' version, follow the instructions included
with the tar file. 

Unfortunately, the audio mixer in SL doesn't allow for Skype calls so I
just use it to send IMs. (If anyone has had success configuring skype
for calls, then please let me know how you did it!)

Craig


On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 06:30 -0700, Pedro Ferreira wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I dont't know how to install skype on my SL5. I don't even know which
 distribution I should download, since there are no Red Hat versions.
 Which dependencies will I need to install?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Pedro Ferreira.
 
 
 
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Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Urs Beyerle
Craig Moore wrote:
 Pedro,
 
 For me I used the 'static' version, follow the instructions included
 with the tar file. 
 
 Unfortunately, the audio mixer in SL doesn't allow for Skype calls so I
 just use it to send IMs. (If anyone has had success configuring skype
 for calls, then please let me know how you did it!)
 

skype-2.0.0.72-centos.i586.rpm works for me with video and audio under SL52.

Urs


Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Mark Stodola
Try the CentOS package.  It will let you know of dependencies when you 
try to install.


Cheers,
Mark

Pedro Ferreira wrote:

Hello all,

I dont't know how to install skype on my SL5. I don't even know which 
distribution I should download, since there are no Red Hat versions. 
Which dependencies will I need to install?


Thanks,

Pedro Ferreira.



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Phone: (608) 831-7600
Fax: (608) 831-9591


Re: determining the appropriate sata driver

2009-03-11 Thread Troy Dawson

Mark Stodola wrote:
I believe most of anaconda's magic comes from probing the PCI and USB 
bus for vendor and device IDs.  If you dig into a driver (for example, 
e1000e), you will find a pcitable listing all of the IDs the driver 
supports.  If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/ you will find a 
modules.pcimap and modules.usbmap among other bus types.


Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Mark

Ken Teh wrote:
How does a system determine the appropriate sata driver?  
Specifically, how does anaconda figure out to write


alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix

in my modprobe.conf and to bind it into my initrd image?

I took apart boot.iso but didnt find anything readable that 
indicated how this was determined.


Thanks!

Ken






Hi Ken,
On SL 5, alot of that data comes from hwdata, which is in the
/usr/share/hwdata directory.
The main ones people and programs look at is
pci.ids and usb.ids
But there are other files in there.
Troy
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Re: determining the appropriate sata driver

2009-03-11 Thread Ken Teh

Hi Troy,

I'm looking for something more basic.  I'm trying to craft an init script 
for an initrd image to load appropriate drivers.  Nothing fancy.  Just the 
basics.  Like what sort of hard drives are on the system.  SATA or IDE?  The 
SATA issue confuses me since there is a plethora of SATA drivers.  Does the 
init script have to try each one to see if it finds a match or is there 
something in /proc or /sys that provides some identification?


The only tool I have in my initrd image is busybox and it doesnt have an 
lspci equivalent.  The /proc system contains a subdirectory that lists all 
devices on PCI but as bus.device files.  I tried cat'ing the files but they 
are not ascii.  I'm guessing it's possible to walk these files to extract 
the information I need.  I can dig deeper but to save time, I'd ask if 
someone already knows the answer.


Ken




Troy Dawson wrote:

Mark Stodola wrote:
I believe most of anaconda's magic comes from probing the PCI and 
USB bus for vendor and device IDs.  If you dig into a driver (for 
example, e1000e), you will find a pcitable listing all of the IDs the 
driver supports.  If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/ you will find 
a modules.pcimap and modules.usbmap among other bus types.


Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Mark

Ken Teh wrote:
How does a system determine the appropriate sata driver?  
Specifically, how does anaconda figure out to write


alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix

in my modprobe.conf and to bind it into my initrd image?

I took apart boot.iso but didnt find anything readable that 
indicated how this was determined.


Thanks!

Ken






Hi Ken,
On SL 5, alot of that data comes from hwdata, which is in the
/usr/share/hwdata directory.
The main ones people and programs look at is
pci.ids and usb.ids
But there are other files in there.
Troy


Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch wrote:
 Craig Moore wrote:
 Pedro,

 For me I used the 'static' version, follow the instructions included
 with the tar file.

 Unfortunately, the audio mixer in SL doesn't allow for Skype calls so I
 just use it to send IMs. (If anyone has had success configuring skype
 for calls, then please let me know how you did it!)

 skype-2.0.0.72-centos.i586.rpm works for me with video and audio under SL52.

And this CentOS Wiki might be helpful, too:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype

Akemi


Re: determining the appropriate sata driver

2009-03-11 Thread Mark Stodola

Ken,

/proc/pci contains much of the info provided by lspci.  For an initrd 
script, you might want to consider looking at the linux-live scripts 
used to build many of the livecds you find online (include the SL flavor 
made by Urs).  I believe if you look at Urs's livecd-trunk, you will 
find linux-live.sl/initrd/liblinuxlive.  This file has procedures for 
probing all common modules for a certain type of support (e.g. 
modprobe_usb_sata_modules).  Brute force seems the standard way to go.  
I've made livecds in several ways, and have not run into a situation 
where I had to manually identify and probe modules for a specific IDE or 
SATA controller.


Are you doing something drastically different from the norm?

Cheers,
Mark

Ken Teh wrote:

Hi Troy,

I'm looking for something more basic.  I'm trying to craft an init 
script for an initrd image to load appropriate drivers.  Nothing 
fancy.  Just the basics.  Like what sort of hard drives are on the 
system.  SATA or IDE?  The SATA issue confuses me since there is a 
plethora of SATA drivers.  Does the init script have to try each one 
to see if it finds a match or is there something in /proc or /sys that 
provides some identification?


The only tool I have in my initrd image is busybox and it doesnt have 
an lspci equivalent.  The /proc system contains a subdirectory that 
lists all devices on PCI but as bus.device files.  I tried cat'ing the 
files but they are not ascii.  I'm guessing it's possible to walk 
these files to extract the information I need.  I can dig deeper but 
to save time, I'd ask if someone already knows the answer.


Ken




Troy Dawson wrote:

Mark Stodola wrote:
I believe most of anaconda's magic comes from probing the PCI and 
USB bus for vendor and device IDs.  If you dig into a driver (for 
example, e1000e), you will find a pcitable listing all of the IDs 
the driver supports.  If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/ you will 
find a modules.pcimap and modules.usbmap among other bus types.


Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Mark

Ken Teh wrote:
How does a system determine the appropriate sata driver?  
Specifically, how does anaconda figure out to write


alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix

in my modprobe.conf and to bind it into my initrd image?

I took apart boot.iso but didnt find anything readable that 
indicated how this was determined.


Thanks!

Ken






Hi Ken,
On SL 5, alot of that data comes from hwdata, which is in the
/usr/share/hwdata directory.
The main ones people and programs look at is
pci.ids and usb.ids
But there are other files in there.
Troy





--
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Digital Systems Engineer

National Electrostatics Corp.
P.O. Box 620310
Middleton, WI 53562-0310 USA
Phone: (608) 831-7600
Fax: (608) 831-9591


Re: determining the appropriate sata driver

2009-03-11 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 10/03/2009, Ken Teh t...@anl.gov wrote:
 How does a system determine the appropriate sata driver?  Specifically, how
 does anaconda figure out to write

  alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix

  in my modprobe.conf and to bind it into my initrd image?

  I took apart boot.iso but didnt find anything readable that indicated how
 this was determined.

Ken,

I wonder if the helper script, get-driver.sh, referenced on p61 of
Linux Kernel in a Nutshell by Greg Kroah-Hartman and available to
download from the publisher's web-site [1] will be any use to you?

Regards,
Alan.

[1] http://examples.oreilly.com/9780596100797/examples.tar.gz


Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ? DONE

2009-03-11 Thread Pedro Ferreira
Thank you all ! Now I just have to configure my microfone.


--- Em qua, 11/3/09, Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch escreveu:
De: Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch
Assunto: Re: How can I install Skype on SL 5.0 ?
Para: Robert E. Blair r...@anl.gov
Cc: pedrojun...@yahoo.com.br, scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
Data: Quarta-feira, 11 de Março de 2009, 10:40

Robert E. Blair wrote:
 skype-2.0.0.72-centos.i586
 works fine on sl5.2
 

Download from
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/

and install it as root with

yum localinstall skype-2.0.0.72-centos.i586.rpm


Not fully true, but almost ...
CentOS 5 = SL 5 = RHEL 5


Urs




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Re: determining the appropriate sata driver

2009-03-11 Thread Urs Beyerle
Hi Ken,

In the LiveCD initrd I probe for modules needed to access CD/DVD ROMS
(IDE, SATA), USB disks/sticks and network cards (in case of a diskless
client).
https://svn.iac.ethz.ch/pub/livecd/trunk/linux-live.sl/initrd/linuxrc
https://svn.iac.ethz.ch/pub/livecd/trunk/linux-live.sl/initrd/liblinuxlive

The SATA part is very simple, I just load libata, ata_piix, ahci,
sata_nv, sata_svw, sg, ... This seems to be good enough for most DVD/CD
ROMS connected over SATA. Of course I would be interested in a more
intelligent way to load the sata modules.

Concerning the detection of the network card. I did it on older LiveCDs
with a statically compiled lspci (running under busybox) and some grep
commands looking in the file pcitable for the correct module. The static
lspci is still available in
https://svn.iac.ethz.ch/pub/livecd/trunk/linux-live.sl/initrd/static-binaries/

However, pcitable was always out of date and the modules could support
more cards than listed in pcitable. Therefore I decided to do it with
brute force. Now, I load a network module, check if I see an active
link. If not, I unload the module again and load the next network module
... and so on. This is fast and works nicely.


Cheers,

Urs




Mark Stodola wrote:
 Ken,

 /proc/pci contains much of the info provided by lspci.  For an initrd
 script, you might want to consider looking at the linux-live scripts
 used to build many of the livecds you find online (include the SL
 flavor made by Urs).  I believe if you look at Urs's livecd-trunk, you
 will find linux-live.sl/initrd/liblinuxlive.  This file has procedures
 for probing all common modules for a certain type of support (e.g.
 modprobe_usb_sata_modules).  Brute force seems the standard way to
 go.  I've made livecds in several ways, and have not run into a
 situation where I had to manually identify and probe modules for a
 specific IDE or SATA controller.

 Are you doing something drastically different from the norm?

 Cheers,
 Mark

 Ken Teh wrote:
 Hi Troy,

 I'm looking for something more basic.  I'm trying to craft an init
 script for an initrd image to load appropriate drivers.  Nothing
 fancy.  Just the basics.  Like what sort of hard drives are on the
 system.  SATA or IDE?  The SATA issue confuses me since there is a
 plethora of SATA drivers.  Does the init script have to try each one
 to see if it finds a match or is there something in /proc or /sys
 that provides some identification?

 The only tool I have in my initrd image is busybox and it doesnt have
 an lspci equivalent.  The /proc system contains a subdirectory that
 lists all devices on PCI but as bus.device files.  I tried cat'ing
 the files but they are not ascii.  I'm guessing it's possible to walk
 these files to extract the information I need.  I can dig deeper but
 to save time, I'd ask if someone already knows the answer.

 Ken




 Troy Dawson wrote:
 Mark Stodola wrote:
 I believe most of anaconda's magic comes from probing the PCI and
 USB bus for vendor and device IDs.  If you dig into a driver (for
 example, e1000e), you will find a pcitable listing all of the IDs
 the driver supports.  If you look in /lib/modules/kernel/ you
 will find a modules.pcimap and modules.usbmap among other bus types.

 Hope that helps.

 Cheers,
 Mark

 Ken Teh wrote:
 How does a system determine the appropriate sata driver? 
 Specifically, how does anaconda figure out to write

 alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix

 in my modprobe.conf and to bind it into my initrd image?

 I took apart boot.iso but didnt find anything readable that
 indicated how this was determined.

 Thanks!

 Ken




 Hi Ken,
 On SL 5, alot of that data comes from hwdata, which is in the
 /usr/share/hwdata directory.
 The main ones people and programs look at is
 pci.ids and usb.ids
 But there are other files in there.
 Troy





Re: my ongoing battle with large filesystems

2009-03-11 Thread Miles O'Neal
Jon Peatfield said...

[snip]

|Re-configuring your RAID controllers to export as 2TB slices isn't fun,
|but it should be possible without a re-install (if a bit fiddly).

Thanks for all of this.

I'll look again, but I didn't notice anything obvious in the Adaptec
screens at boot that would do this.  Any key phrases to look for?

Thanks,
Miles


Re: my ongoing battle with large filesystems

2009-03-11 Thread Jon Peatfield

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Miles O'Neal wrote:


Jon Peatfield said...

[snip]

|Re-configuring your RAID controllers to export as 2TB slices isn't fun,
|but it should be possible without a re-install (if a bit fiddly).

Thanks for all of this.

I'll look again, but I didn't notice anything obvious in the Adaptec
screens at boot that would do this.  Any key phrases to look for?


With luck it is somewhere in the 'container' documentation/descriptions.

I don't have a lot of experience with recent Adaptec raid controllers, on 
one box with ~3TB of disk on an adaptec 216010SA it had to be configured 
as 2 RAID-5 sets each over parts of the same disks which sounds horrid I 
know...


ie in aaccli (yes this is old!) we see:

CLI  open aac0
Executing: open aac0

AAC0 disk list
Executing: disk list

C:ID:L  Device Type BlocksBytes/Block UsageShared Rate
--  --  - ---  -- 
0:00:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:01:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:02:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:03:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:04:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:05:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:06:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
0:07:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:00:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:01:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:02:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:03:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:04:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:05:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264
1:07:0   Disk488397168 512 Initialized  NO 264

AAC0 disk show part
Executing: disk show partition


Scsi   Partition Container  MultiLevel
C:ID:L Offset:Size   Num Type   Num Type   R/W
-- - --- -- --- -- ---
0:00:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:00:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:01:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:01:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:03:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:03:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:04:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:04:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:05:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:05:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:06:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:06:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:07:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
0:07:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:00:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:00:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:01:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:01:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:02:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:02:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:03:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:03:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:04:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:04:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:05:0 64.0KB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:05:0  116GB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:07:0 64.0KB: 116GB  1  RAID-5  0  None   RW
1:07:0  116GB: 116GB  0  RAID-5  0  None   RW

AAC0 contain list
Executing: container list
Num  Total  Oth Stripe  Scsi   Partition
Label Type   Size   Ctr Size   Usage   C:ID:L Offset:Size
- -- -- --- -- --- -- -
 0RAID-5 1.47TB   64KB Open0:00:0 64.0KB: 116GB
 /dev/sda SubData  0:01:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   0:04:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   0:03:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:07:0  116GB: 116GB
   0:05:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   0:06:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   0:07:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:00:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:01:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:02:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:03:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:04:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   1:05:0 64.0KB: 116GB

 1RAID-5 1.47TB   64KB Open0:00:0  116GB: 116GB
 /dev/sdb SubData2 0:01:0  116GB: 116GB
   0:04:0  116GB: 116GB
   0:03:0  116GB: 116GB
   1:07:0 64.0KB: 116GB
   0:05:0  116GB: 116GB