Please consider addition of gnuplot42

2010-03-19 Thread Steve Traylen
Hi,

 I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4)

 These are some packages here I've done:

 http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/

 which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages
 present in  SL4/5.

 I do have an open review here for EPEL:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318

 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing.
 If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL
 than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL.

 Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL.

 Steve


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Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42

2010-03-19 Thread Jon Peatfield

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Steve Traylen wrote:


Hi,

I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4)

These are some packages here I've done:

http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/

which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages
present in  SL4/5.

I do have an open review here for EPEL:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318

but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing.
If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL
than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL.

Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL.

Steve


As a data point we replace the sl gnuplot with our own build of 4.2 
because a few of our users needed a newer version...


Not that I spent much effort on the packaging but the rpms/srpm are 
available from our sl repo if anyone needs such a thing.


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SL archives and indexed postings not accessible

2010-03-19 Thread William Lutter
I find that on both firefox linux and IE winxp that I can't access either 
archived messages or Indexed links in the listserv.fnal.gov emails.   I get a 
MS The page cannot be found screen.

Uh, am I missing some new development?  I figure everyone should also have this 
problem.  It's been occuring the last week? both at work and on my home, so I 
don't think it is a firewall issue.

But, then again, I don't see anyone else mentioning this...
Bill Lutter


Re: SL archives and indexed postings not accessible

2010-03-19 Thread Mark Stodola

Works fine for me on FF under SL 5.2.
I navigated from listserv.fnal.gov to the archives, then chose 
SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS, selected a random month and clicked on a random 
message.


-Mark

William Lutter wrote:

I find that on both firefox linux and IE winxp that I can't access either archived 
messages or Indexed links in the listserv.fnal.gov emails.   I get a MS The page 
cannot be found screen.

Uh, am I missing some new development?  I figure everyone should also have this 
problem.  It's been occuring the last week? both at work and on my home, so I 
don't think it is a firewall issue.

But, then again, I don't see anyone else mentioning this...
Bill Lutter
  



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No, yum, gcc43 not gcc44

2010-03-19 Thread Brett Viren
This is probably a FAQ but I couldn't find the answer.

I want to install gcc43 packages on SL 5.3 64bit so I do:

  yum install gcc43 gcc43-c++ gcc43-gfortran

But yum ignores my command and says that gcc43 is obsoleted by gcc44
and instead installs gcc44!  Complete insolence.

How can I tell yum to actually do what I tell it to do?

Thanks,
-Brett.


Re: No, yum, gcc43 not gcc44

2010-03-19 Thread Peter Elmer
   Hi Brett,

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 03:47:39PM -0400, Brett Viren wrote:
 This is probably a FAQ but I couldn't find the answer.
 
 I want to install gcc43 packages on SL 5.3 64bit so I do:
 
   yum install gcc43 gcc43-c++ gcc43-gfortran
 
 But yum ignores my command and says that gcc43 is obsoleted by gcc44
 and instead installs gcc44!  Complete insolence.
 
 How can I tell yum to actually do what I tell it to do?

  I can't answer your specific question about yum, but note that the gcc43
build in SL5(/RHEL5) was a preview build and not meant for production
use (however you want to interpret that). In particular they appear to have
dumbed down the libstdc++ version to patch that of the standard system 
compiler (gcc412) instead of using the version that comes with gcc4.3 itself.
There were also other oddities about the gcc43 preview build, e.g. 
difficulties building boost, that caused the LHC experiments to reject it 
in favor of our own build(s) of the stock gcc43x. (Subsequent to that decision 
the preview switched to gcc4.4...)
 
   Pete

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Re: No, yum, gcc43 not gcc44

2010-03-19 Thread Brett Viren
Hi Pete,

Peter Elmer peter.el...@cern.ch writes:

 There were also other oddities about the gcc43 preview build, e.g. 
 difficulties building boost, that caused the LHC experiments to reject it 
 in favor of our own build(s) of the stock gcc43x. (Subsequent to that 
 decision 
 the preview switched to gcc4.4...)

Funny you should say this!  I'm trying to get gcc43 installed just so I
can match what is on the nodes on our RACF farm which are heavily
influenced by ATLAS's needs.  However, I see that the stock
gcc43-4.3.2-7.el5 packages installed.  FWIW, we also rely on Boost and
I've built it (v1.38) with gcc43 and didn't see any problems.  

Thanks,
-Brett.


Re: No, yum, gcc43 not gcc44

2010-03-19 Thread Peter Elmer
  Hi Brett,

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:27:16PM -0400, Brett Viren wrote:
 Peter Elmer peter.el...@cern.ch writes:
 
  There were also other oddities about the gcc43 preview build, e.g. 
  difficulties building boost, that caused the LHC experiments to reject it 
  in favor of our own build(s) of the stock gcc43x. (Subsequent to that 
  decision 
  the preview switched to gcc4.4...)
 
 Funny you should say this!  I'm trying to get gcc43 installed just so I
 can match what is on the nodes on our RACF farm which are heavily
 influenced by ATLAS's needs.  However, I see that the stock
 gcc43-4.3.2-7.el5 packages installed.  FWIW, we also rely on Boost and
 I've built it (v1.38) with gcc43 and didn't see any problems.  

  IIRC, it failed to build of the subsequent versions (1.39, IIRC) and
digging through my mail I see that came from something in the libstdc++
compatibility changes they made in the RH preview gcc43. The 
gcc43-4.3.2-7.el5 packages you see installed are probably the preview 
build, I believe, and not stock gcc43x (by which I mean what you get if you 
download the gcc43{1,2,3,4} source tarball yourself and build it, unhacked to 
back up libstdc++). 

  I'm pretty certain that Atlas isn't using the OS-install of the preview
build, but rather a build of the compiler in their own software area, but
you should check with someone from Atlas in case I am missing something. 
They were part of the discussions that chose to use the stock GNU gcc43 over 
the RHEL5 preview gcc43. (I'm 100% certain that CMS isn't using it, but 
that doesn't help you... ;-)

   Pete

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