RE: Perl 6?

[Hoffmann, Tony]

So isn't it a little early to be asking when perl6 will showing up in a Linux 
build that relies on stable and mature packages??

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Subject: Re: Perl 6?

On 01/10/2016 09:12 AM, James Rogers wrote:
> The usual question: is anyone actually using P6 for anything productive?
>
> --W

Isn't it a little early for that question considering it was just released?

Re: Dell Precision T1700 default xorg.conf file needed

[Akemi Yagi]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Mark Stodola  wrote:

> On 01/11/2016 09:57 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:
>
>> On 01/09/2016 04:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you are sure the xorg.conf file existed but has been removed with
>>> no backup, then it was not done by ELRepo. I suggest you look into the
>>> code. You will find that ELRepo's package would not remove xorg.conf
>>> without backing up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree.  It is possible that there were multiple
>> installs/updates of the ELRepo driver during the experimental stages of
>> getting
>> SL 7 to work on the platform as the platform was delivered.  But -- both
>> the primary and backup copies have an ElRepo comment and no "stock"
>> content.  Because of the way the Dell boot bios interacted with the
>> platform after a power outage (beyond the limits of the small UPS
>> attached to the unit -- that may need new batteries but the Department
>> may not have the money to maintain), the only way to get to the obvious
>> Dell boot configuration screen (GUI driven) was to remove the Nvidia
>> card -- and the system does now boot to the text terminal interface, but
>> no GUI.
>>
>> I can email to you the xorg.conf files I found on the machine after the
>> above actions.  I will do additional digging.  Meanwhile, no one has
>> responded so I either will find the X11 xorg configuration utility or
>> attempt to copy one from a working machine that has no Nvidia card.
>>
>> Yasha
>>
>
> I haven't had much time to work with SL7 yet, but isn't it the case that
> there is no xorg.conf by default?  Try just renaming the nvidia generated
> one and see what happens.  I think the X server attempts to autodetect
> settings, which has gotten fairly reliable over the years for the most
> common setups.
>
> -Mark
>

That is my understanding. In SL7, there should be no xorg.cong file by
default. In fact, xorg.conf is marked as deprecated in EL6, but will still
be used if it is present. Graphical settings are supposed to be
automatically detected and configured by the X server.

Akemi

Re: Dell Precision T1700 default xorg.conf file needed

[Mark Stodola]

On 01/11/2016 09:57 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:

On 01/09/2016 04:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Yasha Karant mailto:ykar...@csusb.edu>> wrote:

The ElRepo Nvidia driver seems to have erased (not backed up) the
default X11 xorg.conf file on a Dell Precision T1700 with an addon
Nvidia
card.


If you are sure the xorg.conf file existed but has been removed with
no backup, then it was not done by ELRepo. I suggest you look into the
code. You will find that ELRepo's package would not remove xorg.conf
without backing up.

In the %post section:

[code]
# Check if xorg.conf exists, if it does, backup and remove [BugID #
127]

[ -f %{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf ] && \

mv %{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf
%{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf.elreposave &>/dev/null

[/code]

Hope you can find the real cause of the trouble you are having.

Akemi

I respectfully disagree.  It is possible that there were multiple
installs/updates of the ELRepo driver during the experimental stages of
getting
SL 7 to work on the platform as the platform was delivered.  But -- both
the primary and backup copies have an ElRepo comment and no "stock"
content.  Because of the way the Dell boot bios interacted with the
platform after a power outage (beyond the limits of the small UPS
attached to the unit -- that may need new batteries but the Department
may not have the money to maintain), the only way to get to the obvious
Dell boot configuration screen (GUI driven) was to remove the Nvidia
card -- and the system does now boot to the text terminal interface, but
no GUI.

I can email to you the xorg.conf files I found on the machine after the
above actions.  I will do additional digging.  Meanwhile, no one has
responded so I either will find the X11 xorg configuration utility or
attempt to copy one from a working machine that has no Nvidia card.

Yasha


I haven't had much time to work with SL7 yet, but isn't it the case that 
there is no xorg.conf by default?  Try just renaming the nvidia 
generated one and see what happens.  I think the X server attempts to 
autodetect settings, which has gotten fairly reliable over the years for 
the most common setups.


-Mark

Re: Dell Precision T1700 default xorg.conf file needed

[Yasha Karant]

On 01/09/2016 04:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Yasha Karant > wrote:


The ElRepo Nvidia driver seems to have erased (not backed up) the
default X11 xorg.conf file on a Dell Precision T1700 with an addon
Nvidia
card.


If you are sure the xorg.conf file existed but has been removed with 
no backup, then it was not done by ELRepo. I suggest you look into the 
code. You will find that ELRepo's package would not remove xorg.conf 
without backing up.


In the %post section:

[code]
# Check if xorg.conf exists, if it does, backup and remove [BugID # 
127]


[ -f %{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf ] && \

mv %{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf 
%{_sysconfdir}/X11/xorg.conf.elreposave &>/dev/null


[/code]

Hope you can find the real cause of the trouble you are having.

Akemi
I respectfully disagree.  It is possible that there were multiple 
installs/updates of the ELRepo driver during the experimental stages of 
getting
SL 7 to work on the platform as the platform was delivered.  But -- both 
the primary and backup copies have an ElRepo comment and no "stock" 
content.  Because of the way the Dell boot bios interacted with the 
platform after a power outage (beyond the limits of the small UPS 
attached to the unit -- that may need new batteries but the Department 
may not have the money to maintain), the only way to get to the obvious 
Dell boot configuration screen (GUI driven) was to remove the Nvidia 
card -- and the system does now boot to the text terminal interface, but 
no GUI.


I can email to you the xorg.conf files I found on the machine after the 
above actions.  I will do additional digging.  Meanwhile, no one has 
responded so I either will find the X11 xorg configuration utility or 
attempt to copy one from a working machine that has no Nvidia card.


Yasha