Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-20 Thread Connie Sieh

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Steven Timm wrote:


On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:


On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Randy Evans wrote:


I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
Scientific Linux.

We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
packages were available for install from the default repository in
CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
RHEL and would have the same base packages available.

I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.


http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/SRPMS/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/drbd/

are all dated 2010 but suggest that someone was working on this.




Yes--SL staff were working on this addition at the request of my group.
Currently we are using the ones from atrpms under SL5 but we've asked
them to add it to base SL for SL6.

Steve Timm





We have no plans on putting drbd or heartbeat into SL 6 as they are 
available in other "commonly" used repos.


-Connie Sieh


Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-20 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Steven Timm  wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

>>> I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
>>> would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
>>> a difference in the base packages.

>> http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/SRPMS/drbd/
>>
>> http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/drbd/
>>
>> http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/drbd/
>>
>> are all dated 2010 but suggest that someone was working on this.
>
> Yes--SL staff were working on this addition at the request of my group.
> Currently we are using the ones from atrpms under SL5 but we've asked
> them to add it to base SL for SL6.

Another way to build and maintain the drbd packages for SL is to go
for the kABI-tracking kmods just like it was done with openafs.  As
Phil posted, ELRepo's kmods should work for SL users (the EL6 version
is also available) and can be used as a base/guide when building ones
for SL.

The most apparent advantage of kmods is that they seamlessly survive
kernel updates, thus eliminating the need for the developers to
recompile as well as for users to reinstall upon each kernel update.

Akemi


Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-20 Thread Steven Timm

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:


On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Randy Evans wrote:


I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
Scientific Linux.

We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
packages were available for install from the default repository in
CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
RHEL and would have the same base packages available.

I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.


http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/SRPMS/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/drbd/

are all dated 2010 but suggest that someone was working on this.




Yes--SL staff were working on this addition at the request of my group.
Currently we are using the ones from atrpms under SL5 but we've asked
them to add it to base SL for SL6.

Steve Timm


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Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Group Leader.
Lead of FermiCloud project.


Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Randy Evans wrote:


I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
Scientific Linux.

We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
packages were available for install from the default repository in
CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
RHEL and would have the same base packages available.

I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.


http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/SRPMS/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/drbd/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/drbd/

are all dated 2010 but suggest that someone was working on this.

--
Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge
a.c.aitchi...@dpmms.cam.ac.uk   http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna


RE: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Werf, C.G. van der (Carel)
Just enable ATRPMS - repostitory... and DRBD is available..
 
Carel



From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on behalf of Steven Timm
Sent: Sun 19-Jun-11 17:45
To: Randy Evans
Cc: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5



Both those packages are availble in the fermi version.. I am
surprised they wouldn't be availble in main SL.  Work is under
way to get them in to SL6 as well.

Steve


On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Randy Evans wrote:

> I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
> Scientific Linux.
>
> We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
> packages were available for install from the default repository in
> CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
> few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
> RHEL and would have the same base packages available.
>
> I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
> would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
> a difference in the base packages.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
>

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--
Steven C. Timm, Ph.D  (630) 840-8525
t...@fnal.gov  http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/
Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities,
Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Group Leader.
Lead of FermiCloud project.




Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Steven Timm

Both those packages are availble in the fermi version.. I am
surprised they wouldn't be availble in main SL.  Work is under
way to get them in to SL6 as well.

Steve


On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Randy Evans wrote:


I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
Scientific Linux.

We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
packages were available for install from the default repository in
CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
RHEL and would have the same base packages available.

I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.


Thanks,
Randy



--
--
Steven C. Timm, Ph.D  (630) 840-8525
t...@fnal.gov  http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/
Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities,
Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Group Leader.
Lead of FermiCloud project.


Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Phil Perry

On 19/06/11 13:09, Bart Swedrowski wrote:

On 19 June 2011 12:40, Randy Evans  wrote:


I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.



I would, too, love to see DRBD packaged as a part of SL.  Pretty much the
only reason why few of the machines are still CentOS and not SL here...



Dag has packaged and maintains drbd83 for el5 / el6 at elrepo.org:

http://elrepo.org
http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-drbd83
http://elrepo.org/tiki/drbd83-utils

Hope that helps.


Re: Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Bart Swedrowski
On 19 June 2011 12:40, Randy Evans  wrote:

> I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
> would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
> a difference in the base packages.
>

I would, too, love to see DRBD packaged as a part of SL.  Pretty much the
only reason why few of the machines are still CentOS and not SL here...


Heartbeat & DRBD availability in SL 5.5

2011-06-19 Thread Randy Evans
I am in the process of converting a number of CentOS machines to
Scientific Linux.

We have several machines which use Heartbeat and DRBD and these
packages were available for install from the default repository in
CentOS 5.5 but are not available in SL 5.5.  I thought, except for a
few extra packages SL adds to their build, both were recompilations of
RHEL and would have the same base packages available.

I know there are additional repositories that can be enabled which
would provide Heartbeat and DRBD but I am confused as to why there is
a difference in the base packages.


Thanks,
Randy