Re: SL 5.4 to 5.5 upgrade-problem
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Larry Linder wrote: When installing SL5.5 over SL5.4 about mid way into the Disk 2 I get an Error message to REBOOT. 204 Meg on /mnt/sysimage/usr When I look at /mnt it is empty after reboot. During an install, the partition that is going to become / would be mounted on /mnt/sysimage and that which will be /usr would be on /mnt/sysimage/usr. My guess is that update ran out of disk space, and the the sysimage/usr is removed after ERROR is detected and REBOOT message is displayed. You shouldn't actually have to do an anaconda install to get from SL54. to sl5.5, a yum upgrade should work. But yes you ran out of disk space on /usr, which is by far where most of the distribution lives. Is there anyway to change the location of sysimage/usr to some other disk on the system? How big is your / partition? Is it enough to contain all that it contains now plus all the 8GB of /usr plus the extra stuff you still have to put in? do you have any other partition that has 2G or more free? If so, you could boot in single user mode and move the contents of /usr/ to whatever partition is free. But it may be better to first try to clean out unused user files out of /usr because there is for sure not 8GB worth of OS files that would be there. The sda? contains all the system directories and is 36 G, about 1/2 of it is uncommitted. /usr is 8G and 94% full. Other directories have at least a G of spare space. I need to change partition sizes but hate to waste a lot of time guessing. Thank You Larry Linder -- -- Steven C. Timm, Ph.D (630) 840-8525 t...@fnal.gov http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/ Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities, Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Assistant Group Leader.
Re: SL 5.4 to 5.5 upgrade-problem
Larry Linder wrote: When installing SL5.5 over SL5.4 about mid way into the Disk 2 I get an Error message to REBOOT. 204 Meg on /mnt/sysimage/usr When I look at /mnt it is empty after reboot. My guess is that update ran out of disk space, and the the sysimage/usr is removed after ERROR is detected and REBOOT message is displayed. Is there anyway to change the location of sysimage/usr to some other disk on the system? The sda? contains all the system directories and is 36 G, about 1/2 of it is uncommitted. /usr is 8G and 94% full. Other directories have at least a G of spare space. I need to change partition sizes but hate to waste a lot of time guessing. Thank You Larry Linder Hi Larry, One quick question before I proceed. Are you doing a real upgrade or an install An upgrade is where SL 5.4 stays there and you just update the packages in it. If that is the case, using the installer isn't the recommended way of updating it. It is much easier to to an upgrade via yum. http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/howto/upgrade.5x An install is where you wipe and reformat everything except maybe your home and data partitions. I am going to assume that you are doing a install or SL 5.5 over a previously installed SL 5.4. If you are doing this, then you *need* to reformat the partitions that do not contain your home area or data. Otherwise the install starts adding to what is already there, and as you saw, it can fill up. Patitions you should format if you are doing an install. / /usr /var /boot As Steve said in a previous email, if you can fit everything onto / there is often no reason to create a /usr. Take that space and add it to / Hopefully this is enough information, along with Steve's, to get you going Troy -- __ Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group __
Re: SL 5.4 to 5.5 upgrade-problem
Because we are in a little town (wide spot in road) the DSL is not the most reliable. That is why I down loaded the 8 disks from another source and wanted to update systems to SL 5.5. This install try was an update and not a new installation. There have been a lot of additions to this system, for doing FFT, Power Spectral Density, and a lot of signal processing. Unfortunately /usr has expaned beyond our first guess and /usr/local is almost empty. Since these may not be adjacent partitions. Is there anyway to expand /usr and shrink /usr/local. Thanks for the insight. Larry Linder On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:32, you wrote: Larry Linder wrote: When installing SL5.5 over SL5.4 about mid way into the Disk 2 I get an Error message to REBOOT. 204 Meg on /mnt/sysimage/usr When I look at /mnt it is empty after reboot. My guess is that update ran out of disk space, and the the sysimage/usr is removed after ERROR is detected and REBOOT message is displayed. Is there anyway to change the location of sysimage/usr to some other disk on the system? The sda? contains all the system directories and is 36 G, about 1/2 of it is uncommitted. /usr is 8G and 94% full. Other directories have at least a G of spare space. I need to change partition sizes but hate to waste a lot of time guessing. Thank You Larry Linder Hi Larry, One quick question before I proceed. Are you doing a real upgrade or an install An upgrade is where SL 5.4 stays there and you just update the packages in it. If that is the case, using the installer isn't the recommended way of updating it. It is much easier to to an upgrade via yum. http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/howto/upgrade.5x An install is where you wipe and reformat everything except maybe your home and data partitions. I am going to assume that you are doing a install or SL 5.5 over a previously installed SL 5.4. If you are doing this, then you *need* to reformat the partitions that do not contain your home area or data. Otherwise the install starts adding to what is already there, and as you saw, it can fill up. Patitions you should format if you are doing an install. / /usr /var /boot As Steve said in a previous email, if you can fit everything onto / there is often no reason to create a /usr. Take that space and add it to / Hopefully this is enough information, along with Steve's, to get you going Troy
Re: SL 5.4 to 5.5 upgrade-problem
What you want to do, can be done with a combination of parted and resize2fs. Take good backups first. It would have been easier if you were using LVM. basic strategy, resize2fs to shrink /usr/local file system, then parted to shrink /usr/local partition, then parted to grow /usr partition. The last time I did this I had to actually delete one of the partitions out of the partition table and then re-create it in the same spot. Not for amateurs. Steve On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Larry Linder wrote: Because we are in a little town (wide spot in road) the DSL is not the most reliable. That is why I down loaded the 8 disks from another source and wanted to update systems to SL 5.5. This install try was an update and not a new installation. There have been a lot of additions to this system, for doing FFT, Power Spectral Density, and a lot of signal processing. Unfortunately /usr has expaned beyond our first guess and /usr/local is almost empty. Since these may not be adjacent partitions. Is there anyway to expand /usr and shrink /usr/local. Thanks for the insight. Larry Linder On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:32, you wrote: Larry Linder wrote: When installing SL5.5 over SL5.4 about mid way into the Disk 2 I get an Error message to REBOOT. 204 Meg on /mnt/sysimage/usr When I look at /mnt it is empty after reboot. My guess is that update ran out of disk space, and the the sysimage/usr is removed after ERROR is detected and REBOOT message is displayed. Is there anyway to change the location of sysimage/usr to some other disk on the system? The sda? contains all the system directories and is 36 G, about 1/2 of it is uncommitted. /usr is 8G and 94% full. Other directories have at least a G of spare space. I need to change partition sizes but hate to waste a lot of time guessing. Thank You Larry Linder Hi Larry, One quick question before I proceed. Are you doing a real upgrade or an install An upgrade is where SL 5.4 stays there and you just update the packages in it. If that is the case, using the installer isn't the recommended way of updating it. It is much easier to to an upgrade via yum. http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/howto/upgrade.5x An install is where you wipe and reformat everything except maybe your home and data partitions. I am going to assume that you are doing a install or SL 5.5 over a previously installed SL 5.4. If you are doing this, then you *need* to reformat the partitions that do not contain your home area or data. Otherwise the install starts adding to what is already there, and as you saw, it can fill up. Patitions you should format if you are doing an install. / /usr /var /boot As Steve said in a previous email, if you can fit everything onto / there is often no reason to create a /usr. Take that space and add it to / Hopefully this is enough information, along with Steve's, to get you going Troy -- -- Steven C. Timm, Ph.D (630) 840-8525 t...@fnal.gov http://home.fnal.gov/~timm/ Fermilab Computing Division, Scientific Computing Facilities, Grid Facilities Department, FermiGrid Services Group, Assistant Group Leader.
Re: SL 5.4 to 5.5 upgrade-problem
Larry Linder wrote: Because we are in a little town (wide spot in road) the DSL is not the most reliable. That is why I down loaded the 8 disks from another source and wanted to update systems to SL 5.5. This install try was an update and not a new installation. There have been a lot of additions to this system, for doing FFT, Power Spectral Density, and a lot of signal processing. Unfortunately /usr has expaned beyond our first guess and /usr/local is almost empty. steven timm has right suggestion, but i believe he missed; Since these may not be adjacent partitions. Is there anyway to expand /usr and shrink /usr/local. so, how about posting your /etc/fstab, and post results of; df -B 1024|grep /dev/|sort do you have any room for an additional large hard drive? do you have another system that you can mount hard drive that you are having space problems with? no further commitment or comments until you reply to above, as it will determine how to proceed. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
