Re: XFCE 4.10

2012-06-01 Thread Mark Stodola

On 05/31/2012 08:43 PM, zxq9 wrote:

On 06/01/2012 03:16 AM, Glenn Morris wrote:

Andrew Z wrote:


just curious if you know the time-frame for 4.10 hitting the SL in
packaged form :) ?


Probably no time soon, since it apparently requires newer versions of
Gtk+, Glib etc than exist in SL 6.

http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/building
Xfce 4.10 requires Gtk+ 2.20 and Glib 2.24

SL6 has 2.18 and 2.22.


This sort of thing is why you exchange cutting edge for stability. Its
the same issue with moving KDE ahead to  4.3: a lot of the core distro
would have to go along with it.

The dependency breakages (or, at a minimum, package rebuilds) required
are a hard enough maintenance problem that its better to just spin off a
new distro than to deal with rifted library problems. Distros get hard
to maintain pretty fast, which is why most distros don't make it very far.

Since both XFCE and KDE aren't part of SL or TUV's distro but come from
EPEL (and probably other repos) its impossible to expect the SL team to
decide to fork the entire distro for the sake of one window manager, as
this is completely against their goals.


Just a minor correction, KDE is indeed part of TUV/SL, it just is not 
the latest bleeding edge, as you state.


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XFCE 4.10

2012-05-31 Thread Andrew Z
Hello,
 just curious if you know the time-frame for 4.10 hitting the SL in
packaged form :) ?

Thank you
AZ


Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFCE 4.10

2012-05-31 Thread Pat Riehecky

On 05/31/2012 10:38 AM, Andrew Z wrote:

Hello,
 just curious if you know the time-frame for 4.10 hitting the SL in 
packaged form :) ?


Thank you
AZ


With xfce making its way into EPEL, we are letting the packaging happen 
up there.


Pat

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Pat Riehecky
Scientific Linux Developer


Re: XFCE 4.10

2012-05-31 Thread zxq9

On 06/01/2012 03:16 AM, Glenn Morris wrote:

Andrew Z wrote:


  just curious if you know the time-frame for 4.10 hitting the SL in
packaged form :) ?


Probably no time soon, since it apparently requires newer versions of
Gtk+, Glib etc than exist in SL 6.

http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/building
   Xfce 4.10 requires Gtk+ 2.20 and Glib 2.24

SL6 has 2.18 and 2.22.


This sort of thing is why you exchange cutting edge for stability. 
Its the same issue with moving KDE ahead to  4.3: a lot of the core 
distro would have to go along with it.


The dependency breakages (or, at a minimum, package rebuilds) required 
are a hard enough maintenance problem that its better to just spin off a 
new distro than to deal with rifted library problems. Distros get hard 
to maintain pretty fast, which is why most distros don't make it very far.


Since both XFCE and KDE aren't part of SL or TUV's distro but come from 
EPEL (and probably other repos) its impossible to expect the SL team to 
decide to fork the entire distro for the sake of one window manager, as 
this is completely against their goals.