[scifinoir2] Re: Jericho Premieres Tonight on CBS

2006-09-22 Thread g123curious
 The other day--yesterday?--I posted something about all the
 TV shows with slowly unfolding clues, and that keep you
 guessing as to what's what for one or more seasons. That's
 great, intelligent, suspenseful TV. Well needed in what's
 become a wasteland of reality shows and one-shot CSI/Law
 and Order clones. But yeah, too many of such shows starts
 to become a strain. If you were watching Lost, 24, the new
 Vanished, Kidnapped, Prison Break etc., you'd indeed have
 to watch every ep to stay up. And actually a good show with
 action and suspense--24, Prison Break--at least doesn't keep
 you guesing. As you said, too many of these shows with cleverly
 placed clues, slowly doled out revelations? Becomes
 overwhelming. I know I sound as if I'm being ungrateful, as
 it's the intelligent TV I wanted, but some of the themes simply
 don't warrant the format.

You don't sound ungrateful to me. It sounds like you want quality TV 
and you're not getting it. Everyone assumes that slowly unfolding 
clues is the only way to deliver quality TV. It isn't. These slowly 
unraveling shows can be just as bad as any other.

I find many of these slowly unraveling clues shows a stepsister to 
the daily soaps... and hence, I don't watch either. Nothing is ever 
really resolved. To keep the plot twists coming and to develop new 
secondary plots, the writers often use totally stupid or unrealistic 
actions. Bad character development and poor story developement are 
such whether it's a standard 1-hour TV show or one of these slowly 
unraveling clues shows.

As far as Jericho, this is trash IMHO. I watched the pilot and I 
find in highly contrived to keep this town isolated. It's the same 
as keeping isolated a planeful of 150+ passengers on an island in 
Lost. With satellites, Google Earth, and other such stuff, 
these lost on an island sci-fi shows require an absurd suspension 
of belief. To me, they are soaps in disguise.

(If you wnat something entertainingly absurb, the other night I 
listed to the Iranian prez's speech to the U.N. on C-Span2.)

Also, I don't trust the network or the local affiliate to air the 
eps in the correct order. I am willing to wait a season and watch 
the few shows I do like on DVD... in order and without commercials. 
I want my TV when and how I want it, not the way the networks or 
affiliates want to show it to me. This translates into me wathcing 
less and less TV when the eps first air. About the only live TV i 
watch are sports... and event then I'll tape a 3.5 hour football 
game so I can bypass the commercials and timeouts and watch a 60-
minute football game in about 60 minutes.

Times are a changing...

George
Captain
USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)






 
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[scifinoir2] Grow Your Own Limbs

2006-09-22 Thread brent wodehouse
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/medtech/0,71817-0.html?tw=rss.index

Grow Your Own Limbs

By Kristen Philipkoski


In response to the hundreds of soldiers coming home from war with missing
arms or legs, Darpa is spending millions of dollars to help scientists
learn how people might one day regenerate their own limbs.

Prosthetics are getting better all the time, but they will never be as
good as the limbs we were born with. So two teams of scientists at 10
institutions across the country are competing to regrow the first
mammalian limb.

The two groups are sharing $7.6 million in grants for a year to find a way
to give humans salamander-like abilities. According to Army Medical
Command, 411 soldiers who fought in Iraq and 37 in Afghanistan are
amputees as a result of combat wounds. If preliminary research is
successful, the scientists could receive more funding for up to four years.

The researchers' first milestone is to generate a blastema - a mass of
cells able to develop into various organs or body parts - in a mammal.

We have to show we can do that in a mammal by 24 months - and by 48
months we have to show that we can actually regrow digits, said Stephen
Badylak, director of the Center for Pre-Clinical Tissue Engineering at the
University of Pittsburgh's McGowan Institute for Regenerative Medicine,
and a principal investigator for his team. This is really a Star
Wars-type project.

Mammals can't naturally regenerate limbs or digits beyond the fetal stage.
Amphibians like salamanders and newts, however, can regrow limbs, eyes and
even spinal cords. So the scientists are on a hunt for the molecular
signals responsible for controlling that regenerative ability.

We're looking for what genes get turned on and off to make one
regenerative and one not, Badylak said. We can regenerate as a fetus. We
know the potential is there, but it's a matter of unlocking that potential
(in adults).

Badylak's team is working with a remarkably regenerative mammal - a mouse
discovered by accident in 1998.

Ellen Heber-Katz, a professor at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, was
working with mice that had been genetically engineered to develop lupus
when she noticed that some of their ears looked weird. She had punched
holes in them so she could separate her control from her treatment groups
in an experiment. But the holes quickly grew shut without a trace - not
even a hint of a scar.

The missing ear holes confused her research at the time, but the
phenomenon launched a whole new career for Katz.

She and her colleagues wanted to find out if other parts of these mice,
known as the MRL strain, would also regenerate. So they performed some
tests: They snipped off the tip of a tail, severed a spinal cord, injured
the optic nerve and damaged various internal organs.

All of the injuries healed, even the severed spinal cord. The results
caused Heber-Katz to shift her research from autoimmune disease to
regenerative medicine.

Now, thanks to Darpa's call for grant applications in regeneration,
scientists all over the country from various disciplines are working
together on the MRL mouse.

It's an interdisciplinary team of people who would never otherwise work
together, Badylak said. That's what Darpa does.

Hans Georg-Simon has been studying salamanders for 15 years. As part of
the Darpa project, he's identifying genes that control regeneration in
salamanders. If those same genes are active in the MRL mouse, he'll have a
lead on which genes in humans might be manipulated to allow regeneration.

At some point during evolution, humans seem to have lost the ability to
regenerate, Simon said.

There are actually more species on this globe that can replace lost
structures during regeneration than there are animals who can't, he said.
From a human perspective, we always think we are the masters; we know
everything. But no, it is not so. We belong to the species … that have
secondarily lost the ability to regrow lost tissues.

Another salamander scientist, Ken Muneoka, a professor at Tulane, is on
the competing team. His lab is focusing on a type of cell called
fibroblasts. The cells exist throughout the body and produce collagen
fibers.

In salamanders we have pretty good evidence that these cells control
spatial information in the body, that is to say where a cell or tissue is
located, Muneoka said.

Fibroblasts in mammals invade wounds and create scar tissue. In mammals
(fibroblasts are) not doing what we want them to do, he said. We want to
redirect their activity in response to injury.

And now for the most annoying, but necessary, question a reporter can ask
a scientist: When will you get this to work in humans?

It's impossible to know, Muneoka said. I could tell you next year or 20
years. It has a lot to do with discovery. We might find out that if we
just alter one gene pathway in a mammal … all of a sudden cells (act) like
a salamander. That would be spectacular, but I don't think so. I think
it's going to require 

RE: [scifinoir2] Jericho Premieres Tonight on CBS

2006-09-22 Thread Martin Pratt
The brother who played the cop- wasn't he the cop in John Doe?

Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Anyone watch Jericho last 
night? Nothing yet to make me feel one way or
the other. Apparently--apparently--the US was nuked, as the residents saw a
mushroom cloud on the horizon one day, and next thing all radio and phone
communications are down. No contact with the nearest major city, Denver.
One kid got a call on his home answering machine from his parents who were
vacationing here in Atlanta, and you can hear an explosion and screaming,
after which the message cuts off. So there's an assumption it was a major
attack. At this point, though, there's nothing approaching data on what
really happened. The most intriguing character is a Black guy who is a
former St. Louis cop. He's handling the crisis well, telling the local
officials how to do their jobs better. They're starting to look to him for
innovative ways to keep the peace, get power, etc. Kinda cool to see a
Brother take the lead and not be a reformed criminal with street smarts and
all that. Other than that the show's a big mystery so far, and i have no
clue as to when we'll know for sure what happened.

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September, 2006 12:17
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Jericho Premieres Tonight on CBS

Another won't-last-even-if-it's-good scifi show premiering tonight. I guess
you can think of it as Lost on the prairie. Apparently this small Kansas
town is effectively cut off from the rest of the world by what *seems* to be
a nuclear holocaust. Is the rest of the world destroyed? How did they
survive then? Will anyone from the outside world ever enter the town? Are
they in another dimension? Hmm...reminds me of Lost. One wonders how many
slowly-unfolding-mystery shows the public will tolerate. I'm already hearing
some complain that there are too many shows like Lost, Prison Break,
Vanished, 24 etc., that make you catch evey show, either due to the
action or a mystery that slowly reveals itself. Frankly, I love such shows,
but even I can't take a whole bunch of them. I quit watching Vanished for
that reason. I'll give Jericho a try, but sadly, given the bodies of scifi
shows littering the landscape recently--Tru Calling, Jeremiah, Jake 2.0,
John Doe, Threshold, 
Surface, Invasion--I wouldn't be too thrilled about its chances.

http://www.cbs. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/about/
com/primetime/jericho/about/
JERICHO is a drama about what happens when a nuclear mushroom cloud suddenly
appears on the horizon, plunging the residents of a small, peaceful Kansas
town into chaos, leaving them completely isolated and wondering if they're
the only Americans left alive. Fear of the unknown propels Jericho into
social, psychological and physical mayhem when all communication and power
is shut down. The town starts to come apart at the seams as terror, anger
and confusion bring out the very worst in some residents. Jake Green (Skeet
Ulrich), prodigal son of the town's mayor, becomes a reluctant hero when a
school bus crashes as a result of the explosion. Mayor Johnston Green
(Gerald McRaney) is conflicted with the return of his estranged son, but is
called to action when the town begins to riot. Johnston's wife, Gail (Pamela
Reed), is the strong, savvy first lady of the town who runs interference
between her husband and her favorite son. Attempting to usurp the mayor's
power is Johnston's politic
al adversary, Gray Anderson (Michael Gaston), who is not above putting his
personal agenda before the welfare of the very community he wants to lead.

Though the cloud appears in the distance, it affects all the residents in
Jericho, including Dale Turner (Erik Knudsen), the 16-year-old trailer park
kid everybody picks on, who finds himself in a position that could change
his status; Robert Hawkins (Lennie James), a mysterious stranger who seems
to be a jack-of-all-trades as he steps in to help restore order; Heather
Lisinski (Sprague Grayden), a pretty young schoolteacher on the bus with her
students returning from a class trip when the glare from the explosion
causes a terrible accident; Emily Sullivan (Ashley Scott), Jake's high
school sweetheart who lives outside of town and innocently goes about her
business unaware of the catastrophe, Bonnie Richmond (Shoshannah Stern), a
pretty 17-year-old who is hearing impaired; and Bonnie's older brother
Stanley (Brad Beyer), Jake's best friend from childhood and an avid car
lover who works on the family farm. In this time of crisis, as sensible
people become paranoid, personal agendas 
take over and well-kept secrets threaten to be revealed, some people will
find an inner strength they never knew they had, and the most unlikely
heroes will emerge.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Jericho Premieres Tonight on CBS

2006-09-22 Thread Martin Pratt
I watched it. My friend (also named Martin) watched it. Our unified verdict?
   
  We'd sooner watch VH1...

Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I watched it. My review? Eh. Beats watching VH1.

I was trying to remember why this seemed so familiar and then I 
remembered The Trigger Effect. (http://www.imdb.com/title/ 
tt0117965/) Anybody else see this movie? It's ten years old now.

The nuclear explosion thing is what is going to kill this show. 
Eventually they are going to have to show that people are alive 
across the country. And then the show will be about what would 
happen to Americans if they didn't have technology, which is a show 
that has been tried a hundred times. This show would have been a 
great mini series or a TV movie. But I don't think I'm gonna be a 
regular viewer. And PLEASE don't let them start doing online 
components to the show for clues or stuff like that. After Lost 
and Push, Nevada, I'm done reading TV shows. From here on, If it 
ain't on the screen in between the ads, I'm not interested.

What I WOULD like to point out is the show that came on AFTER 
this...Criminal Minds. One of the only shows I watch regularly now. 
This show has turned Shemar Moore's career AROUND. He's GREAT in this 
show about the Criminal Behaviour unit of the FBI. The start of the 
show is the crime, a lot like Crossing Jordan or the early days of 
CSI. It's got enough reference to science for folks who care, enough 
whodunnit for the CSI crowd. I'd be interested to see what more 
science and speculative fiction fans think of this show.


On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:49 PM, James Landrith wrote:

Thanks for the recap Keith. I missed the first 45 minutes and forgot 
to set
it up to record.

Now the last 15 minutes I saw makes more sense with your summary.

I did like the mayor’s admonition to the citizens to not “break my heart
again” by acting in all manner of jackassery. I grew up in a small town
like that (near Peoria, IL) and I can certainly picture a few idiots 
I knew
losing their minds in a crisis. Of course, my father was (at different
times) on the Village Council, Mayor, Fire Chief, Rescue Chief, and
all-around-volunteer-guy, so I probably felt a bit more of a 
connection to
that character than others may have experienced.

I hope the writing is up to par and it doesn’t become clichéd and
predictable.

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:17 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Jericho Premieres Tonight on CBS

Anyone watch Jericho last night? Nothing yet to make me feel one 
way or
the other. Apparently--apparently--the US was nuked, as the residents 
saw a
mushroom cloud on the horizon one day, and next thing all radio and 
phone
communications are down. No contact with the nearest major city, Denver.
One kid got a call on his home answering machine from his parents who 
were
vacationing here in Atlanta, and you can hear an explosion and 
screaming,
after which the message cuts off. So there's an assumption it was a 
major
attack. At this point, though, there's nothing approaching data on what
really happened. The most intriguing character is a Black guy who is a
former St. Louis cop. He's handling the crisis well, telling the local
officials how to do their jobs better. They're starting to look to 
him for
innovative ways to keep the peace, get power, etc. Kinda cool to see a
Brother take the lead and not be a reformed criminal with street 
smarts and
all that. Other than that the show's a big mystery so far, and i have no
clue as to when we'll know for sure what happened.

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