[scifinoir2] Fw: The DISH Vol. 10 No 18 Dedicated to the Dialogue on Race...

2007-05-25 Thread Amy

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 Table of Contents



 1. Intuit's Vibe...Blaming Poverty on the Poor...Josephine Dixon-Banks
 2. Hood Notes...Record US Poverty
 3. Bit of History...Poor People's Campaign (1968)
 4. News You Use...2007 State of Black America (SOBA)
 5. Sobering Truth in SOBA...By John Burl Smith
 6. Disgruntled
 7. Mailbox



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 Intuit's Vibe
 Blaming Poverty on the Poor
 Josephine Dixon-Banks



 Give us your deprived,
 your malleable muddled masses
 hoping for a gentler taskmaster
 Welcome to the multi-trillion dollar industry, Poverty
 A.K.A., cheapest labor force



 Poverty works, never ever unemployed
 A much needed commodity to justify
 White-collar crime classes
 Teaching dastardly deeds-
 to procure monetary needs-
 fostering avarice greed



 Give us your deprived,
 your malleable muddled masses
 hoping for a gentler taskmaster
 Welcome to the multi-trillion dollar industry, Poverty
 A.K.A., cheapest labor force



 Poverty creates jobs for those financing the societal
 Institution of ya godda pay more taxes
 Blaming Poverty on the poor
 Look! what Enron did to those less fortunate
 Blaming Poverty on the poor



 Did not corporations
 want a billion dollar welfare check
 Blaming Poverty on the poor
 Blaming Poverty on the poor



 Give us your deprived,
 your malleable muddled masses
 hoping for a gentler taskmaster
 Welcome to the multi-trillion dollar industry, Poverty
 A.K.A., cheapest labor force



 No penance just punishment
 augmenting the pillar of economic pillaging
 Poor people put in the pillory from the political pulpit
 Poverty is prime property
 Poverty pimps portrayed
 as political preachers purely punitive but polite
 The pluralization of Poverty
 provides prestige of the patricians



 Poverty, the promissory note from the bureaucratic infidel
 The Truth will tell-the truth will tell
 Poverty the patriotic prisoner on trial for treason








 Hood Notes
 Record US Poverty



 Filled with contradictions, the US economy, based on official statistics,
 enjoys  low unemployment, interest and inflation rates, high worker
 productivity and a booming stock market.  On the other side of the ledger,
 consumer debt is at an all-time high.  And, while corporate profit as a
 share of national income has grown significantly over the last five years,
 real wages have declined over the same period.



 According to the Current Population Survey's 2006 Annual Social and
 Economic Supplement (ASEC), which is based on calendar year 2005
 conditions, the official poverty rate stood at 12.6 percent.  This
 percentage represents approximately 37 million people.  Along ethnic
 lines, poverty rates remained statistically unchanged for blacks (24.9
 percent) and Hispanics (21.8 percent) between 2004 and 2005.  For
 non-Hispanic whites, the poverty rate actually decreased to 8.3 percent
 (2005) from 8.7 percent (2004).



 Deep poverty is defined as a family of four with two children earning less
 than $9,903 or half the federal poverty level. From 2000 to 2005, the
 number of severely poor grew by 26 percent.  Those living in deep poverty
 represent 43 percent or nearly 16 million of the nation's poor.








 Bit of History
 Poor People's Campaign (1968)



 The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as
 cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of
 civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to
 take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around
 them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct
 and immediate abolition of poverty. - Martin Luther King, Jr., Where Do We
 Go from Here: Chaos or Community?



 In November 1967, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the Southern Christian
 Leadership Conference (SCLC) staff  met to discuss the direction of the
 civil rights movement.  With passage of civil rights legislation, the
 emergence of Black Power and urban riots the previous summer,  SCLC
 decided to launch phase two of the struggle.  Dubbed the Poor People's
 Campaign, the SCLC leadership hoped through non-violent direct action to
 focus national attention on economic inequality and poverty, problems
 identified during the struggle to end segregation.



 Specifically, the campaign promoted an economic bill of rights,
 requesting a $30 billion anti-poverty package that included a commitment
 to full employment, a guaranteed annual income measure, increased
 construction of low-income housing, quality education for all Americans,
 decent medical and dental plans and abolition of discrimination against
 any group in the criminal justice 

[scifinoir2] Adapt or Die -- weather warnings for India and New Orleans

2007-05-25 Thread Carole McDonnell
Anisur Rahman is the mayor of a village that is literally 
disappearing beneath his feet. He knows how this is happening but not 
why. His village, Antarpara, used to straddle one of the great rivers 
of Asia, the Brahmaputra. Like the Ganges, the Brahmaputra originates 
as snow melt in the Himalayas before pouring down through the low 
plain that is Bangladesh to the Indian Ocean. Centuries of practice 
have taught people how to cope with the annual flooding of the 
Brahmaputra. They even welcome it, despite the foot or more of water 
it sometimes leaves in their huts, because without it their lands 
would be less fertile. 

But things are different now. This river comes from India, says the 
mayor as we look out at the muddy water. For some reason, the water 
in India is increasing, so the floods here are bigger. The floods are 
sweeping away our houses, even the land beneath them. There were 239 
families in this village before. Now we are thirty-eight families.

Clustered around us are dozens of villagers, mainly women in cheap, 
bright saris--lime green, sky blue, scarlet--with children clinging 
to their necks. I have had to move my house seven times in the last 
twenty-eight years, says Charna, a mother of two. I used to live 
over there, she says, pointing toward the middle of the river, but 
floods washed the land away and I had to move here. But there is 
little room here either. Bangladesh is the most densely populated 
country in the world; its 150 million people--half the size of the US 
population--are crammed into an area about as large as Iowa. We 
don't even have land for a graveyard, Charna laments.

Rest of article at:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070507/hertsgaard



[scifinoir2] [Update] No Seventh 'Star Wars' Film in the Works

2007-05-25 Thread Brent Wodehouse
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21792151-5001026,00.html

Star Wars fans in full force

By Peta Hellard

May 25, 2007


AS the bad news breaks that there won't be another Star Wars movie,
thousands of fans made the pilgrimage to Los Angeles for the film
franchise's 30th anniversary celebrations.

Thousands of Star Wars fans from around the world gathered yesterday to
watch a 17-hour movie marathon.

The free screening of all six films launched five days of celebrations at
the Los Angeles Convention Centre to commemorate the world premiere of the
original film Star Wars: A New Hope on May 25, 1977.

About 12,000 fans - many dressed as storm troopers or in revealing
Princess Leia slave outfits - attended the first day of the convention.

Among the Australian fans who made the trip was Melburnian (from
Greensborough) Chris Brennan, who is a member of Star Walking Inc - the
Australian Star Wars appreciation society.

Brennan, 40, told News Limited the atmosphere at the convention was
electrifying.

It's the biggest Star Wars party ever - I've met fans from all over the
world, he said.

I've seen lots of people dressed up as storm troopers or scout troopers
or Princess Leia - and I've even seen someone dressed up as a womper,
which is the big white furry thing that grabbed Luke Skywalker in The
Empire Strikes Back and hung him up in its cave.

I wouldn't have missed this for the world - I was there at the Australian
premiere on October 21, 1977, when I was ten and I have been following it
ever since.

Brennan said seeing the six films back-to-back on the big screen was
awe-inspiring.

It was exhausting but exhilarating, he said.

The whole theatre just exploded with clapping and cheers every time a new
character came on the screen - it was a very fitting homage.

Steve Sansweet, head of fan relations at Lucasfilm Limited, said he
expected about 25,000 people to attend over the five days.

Today was for our most hard-core members of the fan club but tomorrow we
will be opening the doors to the public, he told News Limited yesterday.

Fans hoping to hear that a new film instalment of the series is on the
cards will be sorely disappointed.

While a comment by director George Lucas ten days ago sent fans and
internet chat rooms into a frenzy about the possibility, Sansweet told
News Limited that a seventh film was not in the works.

That (the comment) was misinterpreted, he told News Limited yesterday.

There are no plans for any additional Star Wars movies but he (Lucas) is
working on two television series.

A Star Wars live action TV series will be filmed in Australia from next
year and will be set between the recent Episode III and the original 1977
Star Wars film which is Episode IV.

The convention, which cost $153 for a four-day pass, includes costume
contests, exhibitions of movie props, autograph opportunities and even a
Storm Trooper Olympics.



Star Walking Inc is organising its own convention to mark the 30th
anniversary of the Star Wars premiere in Australian on the 21-22nd October
in Melbourne.



Re: [scifinoir2] [Update] No Seventh 'Star Wars' Film in the Works

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
No seventh 'Star Wars' Film in the Works
   
  Is it wrong that I want to buy everyone a round at that news? Should I let go 
of this numbing hate I feel for all this Lucas?
   
  Nh.

Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21792151-5001026,00.html

Star Wars fans in full force

By Peta Hellard

May 25, 2007

AS the bad news breaks that there won't be another Star Wars movie,
thousands of fans made the pilgrimage to Los Angeles for the film
franchise's 30th anniversary celebrations.

Thousands of Star Wars fans from around the world gathered yesterday to
watch a 17-hour movie marathon.

The free screening of all six films launched five days of celebrations at
the Los Angeles Convention Centre to commemorate the world premiere of the
original film Star Wars: A New Hope on May 25, 1977.

About 12,000 fans - many dressed as storm troopers or in revealing
Princess Leia slave outfits - attended the first day of the convention.

Among the Australian fans who made the trip was Melburnian (from
Greensborough) Chris Brennan, who is a member of Star Walking Inc - the
Australian Star Wars appreciation society.

Brennan, 40, told News Limited the atmosphere at the convention was
electrifying.

It's the biggest Star Wars party ever - I've met fans from all over the
world, he said.

I've seen lots of people dressed up as storm troopers or scout troopers
or Princess Leia - and I've even seen someone dressed up as a womper,
which is the big white furry thing that grabbed Luke Skywalker in The
Empire Strikes Back and hung him up in its cave.

I wouldn't have missed this for the world - I was there at the Australian
premiere on October 21, 1977, when I was ten and I have been following it
ever since.

Brennan said seeing the six films back-to-back on the big screen was
awe-inspiring.

It was exhausting but exhilarating, he said.

The whole theatre just exploded with clapping and cheers every time a new
character came on the screen - it was a very fitting homage.

Steve Sansweet, head of fan relations at Lucasfilm Limited, said he
expected about 25,000 people to attend over the five days.

Today was for our most hard-core members of the fan club but tomorrow we
will be opening the doors to the public, he told News Limited yesterday.

Fans hoping to hear that a new film instalment of the series is on the
cards will be sorely disappointed.

While a comment by director George Lucas ten days ago sent fans and
internet chat rooms into a frenzy about the possibility, Sansweet told
News Limited that a seventh film was not in the works.

That (the comment) was misinterpreted, he told News Limited yesterday.

There are no plans for any additional Star Wars movies but he (Lucas) is
working on two television series.

A Star Wars live action TV series will be filmed in Australia from next
year and will be set between the recent Episode III and the original 1977
Star Wars film which is Episode IV.

The convention, which cost $153 for a four-day pass, includes costume
contests, exhibitions of movie props, autograph opportunities and even a
Storm Trooper Olympics.

Star Walking Inc is organising its own convention to mark the 30th
anniversary of the Star Wars premiere in Australian on the 21-22nd October
in Melbourne.



 


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[scifinoir2] Bush grants himself virtually dictatorial powers very quietly early this month...

2007-05-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
--- Original Message 

May 9, 2007, with little public fanfare, Bush granted himself virtually
dictatorial powers over all federal, state, local, and private entities
during any state of emergency, that only he has the power to declare and
according to his definition of emergency.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824


Author (Corsi) interview on C-Span -

rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj052507_corsi.rm

Also, below is the framework for the INTEGRATION between the US and the
European Union the White House has been working on for years under
Bush...without Congressional approval.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070430-4.html

there is more on the site about the North American integration as well...


I think soon we will be living under the Western Union.




 
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Re: [scifinoir2] [Rumour] New Star Wars film 'on cards'

2007-05-25 Thread Gymfig
I believe that Star Wars will be on tonight around six. They are showing all 
the films on Cinemax. 



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[scifinoir2] *George Bush Is A Saint *

2007-05-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)

 Original Message 
Subject:FW: George Bush is a Saint-Happy Memorial Day!
Date:   Fri, 25 May 2007 14:16:36 -0700
From:   H. Martin de'Campo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*George Bush Is A Saint *

* ** *
President George W. Bush was scheduled to visit the Episcopal Church
outside Washington as part of his campaign to restore his poll standings.

Bush's campaign manager made a visit to the Bishop, and said to him,
We've been getting a lot of bad publicity because of the president's
position on stem cell research, the Iraq war, Katrina and the like.
We'd gladly make a contribution to the church of $100,000 if during your
sermon you'd say the President is a saint.

The Bishop thought it over for a few moments and finally said, The
Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it.

  Bush showed up for the sermon and the Bishop began: I'd like to speak
to you all this morning about our President.  George W. Bush is a liar,
a cheat and a low-intelligence weasel.  He took the tragedy of September
11^th and used it to frighten and manipulate the American people.  He
lied about weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq for oil and
money, causing the deaths of tens of thousands and making the United
States the most hated country on earth.

  He appointed cronies to positions of power and influence, leading to
widespread death and destruction during Hurricane Katrina.  He awarded
contracts and tax cuts to his rich friends so that we now have more
poverty in this country, and a greater gap between rich and poor, than
we've had since the Depression.

He instituted illegal wiretaps when getting a warrant from a secret
court would have been a mere administrative detail, had his henchmen lie
to Congress about it, then claimed he is above the law.

He has headed the most corrupt, bribe-inducing political party since
Teapot Dome.  The national surplus has turned into a staggering national
debt of 7.6 trillion dollars, gas prices are up 85%, and vital research
into global warming and stem cells is stopped cold because he's afraid
to lose votes from some religious kooks.

He is the worst example of a true Christian I've ever known.  But
compared to Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, George Bush is truly a saint.


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bush grants himself virtually dictatorial powers very quietly early this month...

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
I caught this on C-SPAN this morn. Yet again, no much for a fair and unbiased 
media...
   
  Wonder when *we* would've found out about this? And wasn't it *nice* of them 
to mask it under the smokescreen of the War/illegal immigration/Paris Hilton? 
Clearly, they care for us...
   
  Okay. I'm out of sarcasm. Keith, take it.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- Original Message 

May 9, 2007, with little public fanfare, Bush granted himself virtually
dictatorial powers over all federal, state, local, and private entities
during any state of emergency, that only he has the power to declare and
according to his definition of emergency.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824


Author (Corsi) interview on C-Span -

rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj052507_corsi.rm

Also, below is the framework for the INTEGRATION between the US and the
European Union the White House has been working on for years under
Bush...without Congressional approval.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070430-4.html

there is more on the site about the North American integration as well...


I think soon we will be living under the Western Union.





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Re: [scifinoir2] *George Bush Is A Saint *

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
(screaming in horror, running uncontrollably)

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Original Message 
Subject: FW: George Bush is a Saint-Happy Memorial Day!
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:16:36 -0700
From: H. Martin de'Campo 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*George Bush Is A Saint *

* ** *
President George W. Bush was scheduled to visit the Episcopal Church
outside Washington as part of his campaign to restore his poll standings.

Bush's campaign manager made a visit to the Bishop, and said to him,
We've been getting a lot of bad publicity because of the president's
position on stem cell research, the Iraq war, Katrina and the like.
We'd gladly make a contribution to the church of $100,000 if during your
sermon you'd say the President is a saint.

The Bishop thought it over for a few moments and finally said, The
Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it.

Bush showed up for the sermon and the Bishop began: I'd like to speak
to you all this morning about our President. George W. Bush is a liar,
a cheat and a low-intelligence weasel. He took the tragedy of September
11^th and used it to frighten and manipulate the American people. He
lied about weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq for oil and
money, causing the deaths of tens of thousands and making the United
States the most hated country on earth.

He appointed cronies to positions of power and influence, leading to
widespread death and destruction during Hurricane Katrina. He awarded
contracts and tax cuts to his rich friends so that we now have more
poverty in this country, and a greater gap between rich and poor, than
we've had since the Depression.

He instituted illegal wiretaps when getting a warrant from a secret
court would have been a mere administrative detail, had his henchmen lie
to Congress about it, then claimed he is above the law.

He has headed the most corrupt, bribe-inducing political party since
Teapot Dome. The national surplus has turned into a staggering national
debt of 7.6 trillion dollars, gas prices are up 85%, and vital research
into global warming and stem cells is stopped cold because he's afraid
to lose votes from some religious kooks.

He is the worst example of a true Christian I've ever known. But
compared to Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, George Bush is truly a saint.



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[scifinoir2] Fwd: Re: What are you...

2007-05-25 Thread tdemorsella
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], muze101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Tracey
Well, I loved scifi TV at one point but I have to admit the last shows
I was really wild about was Witchblade and First Wave. I was also a
Dark Angel fan. I admit to missing horror based tv shows. I was hoping
the new version of The Night Stalker would last. Right now, I really
love Heroes, it has replaced Lost in my heart. Lost was so great when
it first started and I love surprises and plot twists as much as the
next girl but in the last season I felt the writers were just trying
to go in too many directions. With it's return last fall, showing a
few eps, then asking the audience to wait until Feb '07 for new shows
was jut a bit much for me. I don't think I'll be going back. 

I'm looking forward to the Dresden Files and I have been watching Dr.
Who when I can catch it. Does anyone no anything about Torchwood?
Where it's airing in the U.S.?  I keep hearing good things about it.

~~~rachelle

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:

 Watching on TV and DVD?  What do you recommend?  What should we steer 
 clear of?
 
 Tracey


--- End forwarded message ---




[scifinoir2] Hey Rachelle!!!! Fwd: Blog communities

2007-05-25 Thread tdemorsella
A little while back, Rachelle was reaching out to be active in the
group, but she was posting on the old group which is not active.  I
moved her to this list which is active, but she has been silent.  

Rachelle!!!

Where are you??  What do you want to talk about?  We really want you
to join in.

Tracey

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], muze101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was curious, does this group have a community some place like
Livejournal, Greatestjournal or sites like that?

rachelle

--- End forwarded message ---




Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Re: What are you...

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
Torchwood is a *bg maybe*, Rachelle (and I see that my shouting 
helped!), because of all the neo-sex and homosexual liasons throughout. It's 
not a bad show, all in all. Here's a link where you can see the show's first 
season (chancy speeds on it, so expect lots of breakups)-
   
  http://www.smellylizard.com/tv_shows_index.htm
   
  Hope you enjoy. I loved what I saw of it (only the first four eps, becaue 
time waits for no one).
   
  

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], muze101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Tracey
Well, I loved scifi TV at one point but I have to admit the last shows
I was really wild about was Witchblade and First Wave. I was also a
Dark Angel fan. I admit to missing horror based tv shows. I was hoping
the new version of The Night Stalker would last. Right now, I really
love Heroes, it has replaced Lost in my heart. Lost was so great when
it first started and I love surprises and plot twists as much as the
next girl but in the last season I felt the writers were just trying
to go in too many directions. With it's return last fall, showing a
few eps, then asking the audience to wait until Feb '07 for new shows
was jut a bit much for me. I don't think I'll be going back. 

I'm looking forward to the Dresden Files and I have been watching Dr.
Who when I can catch it. Does anyone no anything about Torchwood?
Where it's airing in the U.S.? I keep hearing good things about it.

~~~rachelle

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:

 Watching on TV and DVD? What do you recommend? What should we steer 
 clear of?
 
 Tracey


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[scifinoir2] Danny Glover Movies get $20 mil in funding from Hugo Chavez

2007-05-25 Thread ravenadal
Movies about Toussaint L'Overture and Simon Bolivar - now that's the 
kind of stuff I used to have to make up on my website 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/lavai18.htm and 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/mawiyah_4.htm

~rave!

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2007/05/19/glover-venezuela-
chavez.html#skip300x250

Danny Glover movies get $20M in funding from Venezuela

Last Updated: Saturday, May 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM ET 

CBC Arts 

The Venezuelan government has approved $20 million US in financing to 
back two films by American actor Danny Glover, a supporter of 
President Hugo Chavez.

The funds will go towards The General and His Labyrinth — chronicling 
the life of South American liberator Simon Bolivar and based on a 
novel by Nobel Prize-winning writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez — and 
Toussaint, about Haitian revolutionary Toussaint Louverture.

Neither Glover nor Chavez were available for comment.

The 60-year-old actor, perhaps best known as playing Mel Gibson's 
sidekick in the Lethal Weapon movies, has met with Chavez several 
times and even appeared on his television and radio talk show, Hello, 
President.

Glover is an activist who recently was in the anti-globalization 
movie Bamako, which he executive produced, and has blamed the World 
Bank for perpetuating poverty in the developing world to the benefit 
of industrialized nations.

Chavez announced in early May he was pulling his country out of the 
World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Continue Article

I'm a storyteller, Glover told the Philadelphia Enquirer in 
April. I want the stories that I try to tell to move people, to have 
them understand what is often happening in the world.

The actor also serves as an ambassador for UN programs and is chair 
of the Transafrica Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to 
unite Africans worldwide.

I'm a child of the civil rights movement. …I'm blown away by [Martin 
Luther King], who was in 1955 at the Montgomery bus boycott, and who 
he turned out to be 13 years later, said Glover. And that 
evolution, that kind of evolution of thought, political thought, I 
think, is essential.


With files from the Associated Press 



Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Oprah Winfrey's father to tell all in book. (But he didn't tell her.)

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
This, to me, reads as sad. Just plain sad.

ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  News today is that Vernon 
Winfrey's book project is on hold. 
According to New York Post gossip columnist Mary Liz-Shaw this 
is Hollywood speak that loosely translates as, the book was taken 
to an undisclosed location, drenched in ceremonial oils, burned to a 
crisp and is ashes strewn from a plane over the Himalayas. Vernon 
is quoted as saying, We might think about it later on.

~rave!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
winfrey_pmay23,1,2849493.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed 

Oprah Winfrey's father to tell all in book. (But he didn't tell her.)

Maureen Ryan

May 23, 2007

Oprah Winfrey's father, Vernon Winfrey, is writing a tell-all book 
about his famous daughter, according to the New York Daily News.

The paper reports that Winfrey at first laughed at the idea that her 
father was writing about her youth; she called the idea impossible. 
Then she said she talked to him and was told it was something he'd 
been working on for a while.

I was upset, she told the Daily News. I won't say 'devastated,' 
but I was stunned.

The last person in the world to be doing a book about me is Vernon 
Winfrey, the talk show mogul added. The last person.

Vernon Winfrey's book, Things Unspoken, will reportedly describe 
Winfrey's youth. He's been quoted as calling his daughter, who lived 
with him during her teen years, an out-of-hand and unruly child.

I would have preferred to have known my father was working on this. 
It would have been a nice gesture, a courtesy, Winfrey told the 
Daily News.



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Re: [scifinoir2] Bush grants himself virtually dictatorial powers very quietly early this month...

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
A friend of mine in Ireland always asked me, Why are we not fomenting 
revolution against all of this? 
   
  My answer- They've got all the guns. Makes me regret being anti-gun...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  me either. just depressed. :(

Tracey

Amy wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Thanks for this - will pass it on.
 Sickened utterly, but not surprised.
 Amy

 I caught this on C-SPAN this morn. Yet again, no much for a fair and
 unbiased media...
 
  Wonder when *we* would've found out about this? And wasn't it *nice* of
  them to mask it under the smokescreen of the War/illegal 
 immigration/Paris
  Hilton? Clearly, they care for us...
 
  Okay. I'm out of sarcasm. Keith, take it.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
wrote:
  --- Original Message 
 
  May 9, 2007, with little public fanfare, Bush granted himself virtually
  dictatorial powers over all federal, state, local, and private entities
  during any state of emergency, that only he has the power to 
 declare and
  according to his definition of emergency.
 
  http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html 
 
 
 
  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824 
 
 
 
  Author (Corsi) interview on C-Span -
 
  rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj052507_corsi.rm 
 
 
  Also, below is the framework for the INTEGRATION between the US 
 and the
  European Union the White House has been working on for years under
  Bush...without Congressional approval.
 
  http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070430-4.html 
 
 
  there is more on the site about the North American integration as 
 well...
 
 
  I think soon we will be living under the Western Union.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Danny Glover Movies get $20 mil in funding from Hugo Chavez

2007-05-25 Thread Martin
Oooohhh...Mister Bush won't like this at *all*.
   
  Gotta be first in line.

ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Movies about Toussaint L'Overture and Simon Bolivar - now that's the 
kind of stuff I used to have to make up on my website 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/lavai18.htm and 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/mawiyah_4.htm

~rave!

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2007/05/19/glover-venezuela-
chavez.html#skip300x250

Danny Glover movies get $20M in funding from Venezuela

Last Updated: Saturday, May 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM ET 

CBC Arts 

The Venezuelan government has approved $20 million US in financing to 
back two films by American actor Danny Glover, a supporter of 
President Hugo Chavez.

The funds will go towards The General and His Labyrinth — chronicling 
the life of South American liberator Simon Bolivar and based on a 
novel by Nobel Prize-winning writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez — and 
Toussaint, about Haitian revolutionary Toussaint Louverture.

Neither Glover nor Chavez were available for comment.

The 60-year-old actor, perhaps best known as playing Mel Gibson's 
sidekick in the Lethal Weapon movies, has met with Chavez several 
times and even appeared on his television and radio talk show, Hello, 
President.

Glover is an activist who recently was in the anti-globalization 
movie Bamako, which he executive produced, and has blamed the World 
Bank for perpetuating poverty in the developing world to the benefit 
of industrialized nations.

Chavez announced in early May he was pulling his country out of the 
World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Continue Article

I'm a storyteller, Glover told the Philadelphia Enquirer in 
April. I want the stories that I try to tell to move people, to have 
them understand what is often happening in the world.

The actor also serves as an ambassador for UN programs and is chair 
of the Transafrica Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to 
unite Africans worldwide.

I'm a child of the civil rights movement. …I'm blown away by [Martin 
Luther King], who was in 1955 at the Montgomery bus boycott, and who 
he turned out to be 13 years later, said Glover. And that 
evolution, that kind of evolution of thought, political thought, I 
think, is essential.

With files from the Associated Press 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Kurt Russell Criticizes 'Grindhouse' Breakup

2007-05-25 Thread buky90
i saw the grind housetotaland the death car part was too me way more
emotionally satisfying than the rodrrihuis. what are they gonna do with
those halarious ads???

On 5/23/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Sadly, in H'Wood, visionaries rarely survive long.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
 wrote: Kurt Russell Criticizes 'Grindhouse' Breakup
 Kurt Russell, who starred in the Death Proof segment of the Quentin
 Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez horror double feature Grindhouse, has
 expressed disappointment over the decision to release Death Proof as a
 separate feature for European audiences. Appearing today (Tuesday) at a
 news conference at the Cannes Film Festival, where Death Proof is
 screening in competition for the Palme d'Or, Russell, acknowledging that
 he hasn't seen the reedited longer version, said, I'm disappointed for
 any audience that they won't get the Grindhouse experience. ... These
 [two] movies are going to go out there by themselves and they'll live
 their own life, but my prediction is that 20 years from now, you'll want
 the Grindhouse experience. ... [It's] something bizarre that you've
 never experienced before. But, appearing at the same news conference,
 director Quentin Tarantino defended the new version, saying that the
 film has changed 180 degrees so far as the emotion is concerned and
 that he is particularly pleased with the way Russell's character has
 evolved in the editing. Standing at the rear of the news conference,
 producer Harvey Weinstein also joined in the discussion, saying that
 what Tarantino and Rodriguez originally had to remove from their films
 so that they could be combined reduced the essence of the films. It
 would have been like cutting [Tarantino's] Kill Bill and [Rodriguez's]
 Sin City to 70-minute versions, he said. He predicted that European
 audiences and hopefully American audiences will get a lot more
 enjoyment out of the films when they're seen separately. (Grindhouse was
 a surprise flop when it was released domestically in April. The
 $60-million film earned only $24 million in ticket sales.)

 http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2007-05-22/

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[scifinoir2] Re: *George Bush Is A Saint *

2007-05-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
funny!

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
  Original Message  
 Subject: FW: George Bush is a Saint-Happy Memorial Day! 
 Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:16:36 -0700 
 From: H. Martin de'Campo 
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 *George Bush Is A Saint * 
 
 * ** * 
 President George W. Bush was scheduled to visit the Episcopal Church 
 outside Washington as part of his campaign to restore his poll standings. 
 
 Bush's campaign manager made a visit to the Bishop, and said to him, 
 We've been getting a lot of bad publicity because of the president's 
 position on stem cell research, the Iraq war, Katrina and the like. 
 We'd gladly make a contribution to the church of $100,000 if during your 
 sermon you'd say the President is a saint. 
 
 The Bishop thought it over for a few moments and finally said, The 
 Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it. 
 
 Bush showed up for the sermon and the Bishop began: I'd like to speak 
 to you all this morning about our President. George W. Bush is a liar, 
 a cheat and a low-intelligence weasel. He took the tragedy of September 
 11^th and used it to frighten and manipulate the American people. He 
 lied about weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq for oil and 
 money, causing the deaths of tens of thousands and making the United 
 States the most hated country on earth. 
 
 He appointed cronies to positions of power and influence, leading to 
 widespread death and destruction during Hurricane Katrina. He awarded 
 contracts and tax cuts to his rich friends so that we now have more 
 poverty in this country, and a greater gap between rich and poor, than 
 we've had since the Depression. 
 
 He instituted illegal wiretaps when getting a warrant from a secret 
 court would have been a mere administrative detail, had his henchmen lie 
 to Congress about it, then claimed he is above the law. 
 
 He has headed the most corrupt, bribe-inducing political party since 
 Teapot Dome. The national surplus has turned into a staggering national 
 debt of 7.6 trillion dollars, gas prices are up 85%, and vital research 
 into global warming and stem cells is stopped cold because he's afraid 
 to lose votes from some religious kooks. 
 
 He is the worst example of a true Christian I've ever known. But 
 compared to Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, George Bush is truly a saint. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bush grants himself virtually dictatorial powers very quietly early this month...

2007-05-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
It's not about guns. At least, it hasn't even gotten that far to be about guns. 
What they got was our unenlightened self-interest, as we sold out to fear, 
hatred, prejudice, and misplaced vengeance.  This was a coup of the government 
against the citizenry, but we opened the gates and invited the invaders in.

I'd say America got what it deserved if I didn't still live here...

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
A friend of mine in Ireland always asked me, Why are we not fomenting 
revolution against all of this? 

My answer- They've got all the guns. Makes me regret being anti-gun...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
me either. just depressed. :(

Tracey

Amy wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Thanks for this - will pass it on.
 Sickened utterly, but not surprised.
 Amy

 I caught this on C-SPAN this morn. Yet again, no much for a fair and
 unbiased media...
 
  Wonder when *we* would've found out about this? And wasn't it *nice* of
  them to mask it under the smokescreen of the War/illegal 
 immigration/Paris
  Hilton? Clearly, they care for us...
 
  Okay. I'm out of sarcasm. Keith, take it.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
wrote:
  --- Original Message 
 
  May 9, 2007, with little public fanfare, Bush granted himself virtually
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Re: [scifinoir2] 'Star Trek' Writers Talk Direction, Technobabble But Not Matt Damon

2007-05-25 Thread james
Justine is just the tip of the iceberg.  Don't get me started on my Judge
Hatchett...

Yeah, the time travel plot device was overused and predictible. I did
enjoy the Enterprise T'Pol/Archer short-term memory problem episode.  That
was an outstanding exception.

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 You're the first person I've heard of crushing on Justine Bateman!  :)
 One reason I got so sick of Enterprise and aspects of Voyager was perhaps
 the main plot device BB overused--time travel! Man, I've literally lost
 count of how often they used time travel in all the series to tell a
 story, then reverse everything. Some were really good--Yesterday's
 Enterprise (TNG), Trials and Tribbleations (DS9), the Enterprise
 where Archer lost his memory and had to be told by T'Pol each day how
 Earth was destroyed. But in the main time travel was so overused it became
 sickening.


 -- Original message --
 From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I thoroughly enjoyed DS9 in syndication. I was on active duty when it
 began its
 run and hardly watched TV then. It was nice to see an ST series that
 didn't
 have the obligatory holodeck scene every episode or an undisciplined,
 out of
 control crew lost in space, or a desperate problem routinely solved
 through
 reversing the polarity.

 Couldn't stand the damned v-word show. Liked TNG. Loved DS9.

 Great casting. Lots of new characters and familiar faces. Hawk from
 Spenser -
 running a space station? Awesome! Rene Auberjonis as a shape-shifting
 security
 officer? Plus, Terry Farrell reminded me of Justine Bateman - who I used
 crush
 on back in the day. :)

 That was some damn fine television.
 ___
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 . Original Message ...
 On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:51:26 + wrote:
 Yeah, as evidenced by the fact which bothered me from day one of DS9:
 Sisko was
 the *only* star of any Trek series who didn't come in as a captain. What
 was
 that about? I hear you and agree. I know from stuff I've read on the Net
 and
 even conversations in comic shops, DS9 isn't really appreciated.
 
 What's really sad, Tracey? DS9 had the best balance of all the things
 that made
 Trek what it was: aliens, futuristic tech, action, drama, fully realized
 characters, and humour. I loved TNG--still do--but it was lacking in
 humorous,
 light-hearted shows. Between Quark, Bashir, and O'Brien, DS9 had a
 goodly
 number of funny shows, especially during the Dominion War, when the
 humour broke
 up the heavy drama. Voyager had lots of aliens, and the Doctor was
 funny, but
 the characters weren't really realized. Janeway and Seven ultimately got
 all the
 best scripts, with B'Lana Torres and the Doctor getting the leftovers.
 DS9
 managed to develop everyone in that cast over seven years--even people
 like Jake
 and Rom--so that all had grown. Enterprise had the tension of the Xindi
 thing,
 but the Dominion War trumps it easily.
 
 And everywhere I turn now, people pat themselves on the back by saying
 the new
 Battlestar Galactica is the best scifi series ever on American TV. I
 love BSG,
 but I have to say that overall DS9 is better due to its more balanced
 flow.
 Great shows both--along with B5--but when it comes to thinking about
 what series
 I could watch over and over again decades in the future without getting
 tired of
 it, DS9 beats BSG.
 
  And again, it seems so few of those people realize that Ronald Moore
 worked on
 DS9 before BSG...
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)

 Let me just say it. Most of America never wanted and never liked a
 Black
 captain staring in the Star Trek universe. From day one Deep Space nine
 has been the step-child of the Franchise.
 
 Tracey
 
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  Not sure if this particular piece on the next Trek film was already
 posted.
 I find it interesting they say it won't be a prequel, but a reimaging.
 (Lord--the last reimaged movie I saw was Tim Burton's laughable Planet
 of the
 Apes! Gotta be better than that!). I also note that just about every
 writer,
 director, and producer I read references The Next Generation as the
 standard
 Trek of the modern era. I get it that TNG had lots of action, a starship
 as
 base, and great characters. It's probably overall the most easily
 accessible
 Trek show to casual fans and non-fans. Still, it bothers me that the
 best
 overall *written* show is almost never discussed: Deep Space Nine. How
 many
 people realize 

Re: [scifinoir2] Danny Glover Movies get $20 mil in funding from Hugo Chavez

2007-05-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
I'm fascinated by this project. Glover's one of those who's doing all kinds of 
stuff, yet if he ain't acting crazy like Hilton, Lohan, Spears, or Brangelina, 
he gets no press.

I do quibble, however, with the article charaterizing him as best known for 
playing Mel Gibson's sidekick. That connotes that he was second fiddle to 
Gibson, and I always saw them as different but fully equal partners. 

-- Original message -- 
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Movies about Toussaint L'Overture and Simon Bolivar - now that's the 
kind of stuff I used to have to make up on my website 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/lavai18.htm and 
http://http://www.theworldebon.com/mawiyah_4.htm

~rave!

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2007/05/19/glover-venezuela-
chavez.html#skip300x250

Danny Glover movies get $20M in funding from Venezuela

Last Updated: Saturday, May 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM ET 

CBC Arts 

The Venezuelan government has approved $20 million US in financing to 
back two films by American actor Danny Glover, a supporter of 
President Hugo Chavez.

The funds will go towards The General and His Labyrinth — chronicling 
the life of South American liberator Simon Bolivar and based on a 
novel by Nobel Prize-winning writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez — and 
Toussaint, about Haitian revolutionary Toussaint Louverture.

Neither Glover nor Chavez were available for comment.

The 60-year-old actor, perhaps best known as playing Mel Gibson's 
sidekick in the Lethal Weapon movies, has met with Chavez several 
times and even appeared on his television and radio talk show, Hello, 
President.

Glover is an activist who recently was in the anti-globalization 
movie Bamako, which he executive produced, and has blamed the World 
Bank for perpetuating poverty in the developing world to the benefit 
of industrialized nations.

Chavez announced in early May he was pulling his country out of the 
World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Continue Article

I'm a storyteller, Glover told the Philadelphia Enquirer in 
April. I want the stories that I try to tell to move people, to have 
them understand what is often happening in the world.

The actor also serves as an ambassador for UN programs and is chair 
of the Transafrica Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to 
unite Africans worldwide.

I'm a child of the civil rights movement. …I'm blown away by [Martin 
Luther King], who was in 1955 at the Montgomery bus boycott, and who 
he turned out to be 13 years later, said Glover. And that 
evolution, that kind of evolution of thought, political thought, I 
think, is essential.

With files from the Associated Press 


 

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[scifinoir2] Re: Danny Glover Movies get $20 mil in funding from Hugo Chavez

2007-05-25 Thread ravenadal
I am amused by your sidekick comment.  I have been studying the 
great variety stars of the 20th century as preparation for elevating 
Samuel George Davis, Jr. on my website (http://the 
worldebon.com/negus_26.htm). One of the comedians I researched was 
Jack Benny who had Eddie Rochester Anderson as his sidekick. So 
strong was Anderson's performance as Benny's valet, some newspapers 
listed the radio show as the Eddie Anderson Show.  Which, of 
course, on the World Ebon, I make it so
(http://theworldebon.com/eshe_23.htm).  

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm fascinated by this project. Glover's one of those who's doing 
all kinds of stuff, yet if he ain't acting crazy like Hilton, Lohan, 
Spears, or Brangelina, he gets no press.
 
 I do quibble, however, with the article charaterizing him as best 
known for playing Mel Gibson's sidekick. That connotes that he was 
second fiddle to Gibson, and I always saw them as different but fully 
equal partners. 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Movies about Toussaint L'Overture and Simon Bolivar - now that's 
the 
 kind of stuff I used to have to make up on my website 
 http://http://www.theworldebon.com/lavai18.htm and 
 http://http://www.theworldebon.com/mawiyah_4.htm
 
 ~rave!
 
 http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2007/05/19/glover-venezuela-
 chavez.html#skip300x250
 
 Danny Glover movies get $20M in funding from Venezuela
 
 Last Updated: Saturday, May 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM ET 
 
 CBC Arts 
 
 The Venezuelan government has approved $20 million US in financing 
to 
 back two films by American actor Danny Glover, a supporter of 
 President Hugo Chavez.
 
 The funds will go towards The General and His Labyrinth — 
chronicling 
 the life of South American liberator Simon Bolivar and based on a 
 novel by Nobel Prize-winning writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez — and 
 Toussaint, about Haitian revolutionary Toussaint Louverture.
 
 Neither Glover nor Chavez were available for comment.
 
 The 60-year-old actor, perhaps best known as playing Mel Gibson's 
 sidekick in the Lethal Weapon movies, has met with Chavez several 
 times and even appeared on his television and radio talk show, 
Hello, 
 President.
 
 Glover is an activist who recently was in the anti-globalization 
 movie Bamako, which he executive produced, and has blamed the World 
 Bank for perpetuating poverty in the developing world to the 
benefit 
 of industrialized nations.
 
 Chavez announced in early May he was pulling his country out of the 
 World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
 
 Continue Article
 
 I'm a storyteller, Glover told the Philadelphia Enquirer in 
 April. I want the stories that I try to tell to move people, to 
have 
 them understand what is often happening in the world.
 
 The actor also serves as an ambassador for UN programs and is chair 
 of the Transafrica Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to 
 unite Africans worldwide.
 
 I'm a child of the civil rights movement. …I'm blown away by 
[Martin 
 Luther King], who was in 1955 at the Montgomery bus boycott, and 
who 
 he turned out to be 13 years later, said Glover. And that 
 evolution, that kind of evolution of thought, political thought, I 
 think, is essential.
 
 With files from the Associated Press 
 
 
  
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Kurt Russell Criticizes 'Grindhouse' Breakup

2007-05-25 Thread ravenadal
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. 

~rave!

(WARNING! SELF SERVING PLUG BELOW!)

My review of the good part of Grindhouse: 
http://www.theworldebon.com/home.htm

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, buky90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i saw the grind housetotaland the death car part was too me way more
 emotionally satisfying than the rodrrihuis. what are they gonna do 
with
 those halarious ads???
 
 On 5/23/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Sadly, in H'Wood, visionaries rarely survive long.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
  wrote: Kurt Russell Criticizes 'Grindhouse' Breakup
  Kurt Russell, who starred in the Death Proof segment of the 
Quentin
  Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez horror double feature Grindhouse, has
  expressed disappointment over the decision to release Death Proof 
as a
  separate feature for European audiences. Appearing today 
(Tuesday) at a
  news conference at the Cannes Film Festival, where Death Proof is
  screening in competition for the Palme d'Or, Russell, 
acknowledging that
  he hasn't seen the reedited longer version, said, I'm 
disappointed for
  any audience that they won't get the Grindhouse experience. ... 
These
  [two] movies are going to go out there by themselves and they'll 
live
  their own life, but my prediction is that 20 years from now, 
you'll want
  the Grindhouse experience. ... [It's] something bizarre that 
you've
  never experienced before. But, appearing at the same news 
conference,
  director Quentin Tarantino defended the new version, saying that 
the
  film has changed 180 degrees so far as the emotion is concerned 
and
  that he is particularly pleased with the way Russell's character 
has
  evolved in the editing. Standing at the rear of the news 
conference,
  producer Harvey Weinstein also joined in the discussion, saying 
that
  what Tarantino and Rodriguez originally had to remove from their 
films
  so that they could be combined reduced the essence of the 
films. It
  would have been like cutting [Tarantino's] Kill Bill and 
[Rodriguez's]
  Sin City to 70-minute versions, he said. He predicted that 
European
  audiences and hopefully American audiences will get a lot more
  enjoyment out of the films when they're seen separately. 
(Grindhouse was
  a surprise flop when it was released domestically in April. The
  $60-million film earned only $24 million in ticket sales.)
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Danny Glover Movies get $20 mil in funding from Hugo Chavez

2007-05-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
Yeah, but they should have said partner. Your story reminds me of how The 
Green Hornet series was repackaged in Asia as The Kato Show, where Bruce Lee 
was deemed the star, and the white Hornet his sidekick.

-- Original message -- 
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I am amused by your sidekick comment. I have been studying the 
great variety stars of the 20th century as preparation for elevating 
Samuel George Davis, Jr. on my website (http://the 
worldebon.com/negus_26.htm). One of the comedians I researched was 
Jack Benny who had Eddie Rochester Anderson as his sidekick. So 
strong was Anderson's performance as Benny's valet, some newspapers 
listed the radio show as the Eddie Anderson Show. Which, of 
course, on the World Ebon, I make it so
(http://theworldebon.com/eshe_23.htm). 

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm fascinated by this project. Glover's one of those who's doing 
all kinds of stuff, yet if he ain't acting crazy like Hilton, Lohan, 
Spears, or Brangelina, he gets no press.
 
 I do quibble, however, with the article charaterizing him as best 
known for playing Mel Gibson's sidekick. That connotes that he was 
second fiddle to Gibson, and I always saw them as different but fully 
equal partners. 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Movies about Toussaint L'Overture and Simon Bolivar - now that's 
the 
 kind of stuff I used to have to make up on my website 
 http://http://www.theworldebon.com/lavai18.htm and 
 http://http://www.theworldebon.com/mawiyah_4.htm
 
 ~rave!
 
 http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2007/05/19/glover-venezuela-
 chavez.html#skip300x250
 
 Danny Glover movies get $20M in funding from Venezuela
 
 Last Updated: Saturday, May 19, 2007 | 11:14 AM ET 
 
 CBC Arts 
 
 The Venezuelan government has approved $20 million US in financing 
to 
 back two films by American actor Danny Glover, a supporter of 
 President Hugo Chavez.
 
 The funds will go towards The General and His Labyrinth — 
chronicling 
 the life of South American liberator Simon Bolivar and based on a 
 novel by Nobel Prize-winning writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez — and 
 Toussaint, about Haitian revolutionary Toussaint Louverture.
 
 Neither Glover nor Chavez were available for comment.
 
 The 60-year-old actor, perhaps best known as playing Mel Gibson's 
 sidekick in the Lethal Weapon movies, has met with Chavez several 
 times and even appeared on his television and radio talk show, 
Hello, 
 President.
 
 Glover is an activist who recently was in the anti-globalization 
 movie Bamako, which he executive produced, and has blamed the World 
 Bank for perpetuating poverty in the developing world to the 
benefit 
 of industrialized nations.
 
 Chavez announced in early May he was pulling his country out of the 
 World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
 
 Continue Article
 
 I'm a storyteller, Glover told the Philadelphia Enquirer in 
 April. I want the stories that I try to tell to move people, to 
have 
 them understand what is often happening in the world.
 
 The actor also serves as an ambassador for UN programs and is chair 
 of the Transafrica Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to 
 unite Africans worldwide.
 
 I'm a child of the civil rights movement. …I'm blown away by 
[Martin 
 Luther King], who was in 1955 at the Montgomery bus boycott, and 
who 
 he turned out to be 13 years later, said Glover. And that 
 evolution, that kind of evolution of thought, political thought, I 
 think, is essential.
 
 With files from the Associated Press 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek and Time Travel (was 'Star Trek' Writers Talk Direction)

2007-05-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
I'll even give Voyager props for one good time travel show-- Timeless.

While guiding Voyager through a quantum slipstream to Earth, Harry Kim sends 
incorrect calculations that result in the deaths of everyone but him and 
Chakotay.  Years later, he sends a message back in time to himself, correcting 
the mistake and saving the crew. Not the best show, not as good as some of 
the time-travel classics listed below. But memorable for seeing the Voyager's 
crash, and for the rare chance to see Garrett Wang actually get to *act*, 
rather than stand around being bright and shy and compliant.

But again, later, back to the well: the two-part Year of Hell saw the entire 
Voyager crew decimated by a time-changing megalomaniac, but at the end? All is 
put back , it never happened.  A cheap trick, using time-travel again to tell a 
sad story, then using it to erase all the consequences.

Watching 85% of Voyager, as I've done in the last few months with the reruns on 
SpikeTV, I'm more convinced than ever that BB became hacks.

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 Judge Hatchett? We must hear more! 
 
 Time travel is, with the possible exception of alien invasions or 
 computers/robots gone rogue, probably the most commonly used theme in science 
 fiction. Got no problem with that. A big aspect of Babylon 5's mythos centers 
 around time travel, as B4 was actually sent back in time to help with the 
 previous Shadow War, and the prophet Valen came from the future. In fact, I 
 can't think of single good scifi series that hasn't used time travel at some 
 time. 
 
 And Trek has had some classic time travel eps: 
 
 City on the Edge of Forever - OS show where Kirk must kill his love Edith 
 Keeler 
 to save the future. 
 
 Yesterday's Enterprise - TNG ep where the Enterprise C comes into a future 
 where 
 the Federation is about to lose a war to the Klingon Empire. (one of my top 
 five 
 TNG eps, by the way) 
 
 Trials and Tribbleations - *Awesomely* funny DS9 ep where Sisko and company 
 travel back to the site of the original The Trouble with Tribbles classic 
 
 And as you mentioned, the Memento like Enterprise episode is very good. 
 In 
 fact, it was one of the shows signaling the long hoped-for arrival of quality 
 in 
 that series. But BB were so obssessed with time travel shows it became a 
 joke. 
 Check it: 
 
 * TNG series finale dealt with Picard being bounced around time by Q in order 
 for him to learn non-linear thinking 
 * DS9 kinda/sorta began with time travel, as Sisko kept reliving his past in 
 the 
 Celestial Temple, and kinda/sorta ended with it, as he left his wife to 
 journey 
 through time. 
 * Voyager's series finale had Janeway of the future go back in time to help 
 Janeway of the past get home sooner. 
 * The main theme of Enterprise from the start was the so-called Temporal 
 Cold 
 War, and journeys/glimpses of the past and future were themes of its series 
 finale. 
 
 Without even trying hard, I can think of well over a dozen more time travel 
 eps 
 in Voyager--the biggest offender--alone. Some were good, some bad, but the 
 theme 
 was overused, which shows a weakness in writing. That's what happens when the 
 same people control a franchise for this long: they go back to the same well 
 over and over again. Similar to the way the Borg--once feared and 
 mysterious--became common and frankly boring due to overuse. 
 
 
 But BB used it so much it's unbelievable. 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Justine is just the tip of the iceberg. Don't get me started on my Judge 
 Hatchett... 
 
 Yeah, the time travel plot device was overused and predictible. I did 
 enjoy the Enterprise T'Pol/Archer short-term memory problem episode. That 
 was an outstanding exception. 
 
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  You're the first person I've heard of crushing on Justine Bateman! :) 
  One reason I got so sick of Enterprise and aspects of Voyager was perhaps 
  the main plot device BB overused--time travel! Man, I've literally lost 
  count of how often they used time travel in all the series to tell a 
  story, then reverse everything. Some were really good--Yesterday's 
  Enterprise (TNG), Trials and Tribbleations (DS9), the Enterprise 
  where Archer lost his memory and had to be told by T'Pol each day how 
  Earth was destroyed. But in the main time travel was so overused it became 
  sickening. 
  
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: James Landrith 
  
  I thoroughly 

[scifinoir2] Go Force and multiply: 'Star Wars' turns 30 May 25th

2007-05-25 Thread ravenadal
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/news/article/41518/go-force-and-multiply-
star-wars-turns-30/

Go Force and multiply: 'Star Wars' turns 30

by Ethan Sacks

New York Daily News (MCT)

23 May 2007

It really was a long time ago. 

This Friday, it'll be exactly 30 years since Star Wars blasted away 
all expectations after opening in just 32 movie theaters on May 25, 
1977. The anniversary will be marked by commemorative items, parties 
and events. 


The Making of Star Wars: The Definitive Story behind the Original Film
(Random House/Del Ray Books; US: Apr 2007)
 PopShop
 Amazon
 Amazon UKIt's remarkable to note how, in the days before universe-
filling marketing campaigns and studio tracking reports, no one, not 
even writer-director George Lucas, was prepared for the lines that 
snaked around theaters showing Star Wars. Audiences cheered from the 
opening blasts of John Williams' score to the closing credits, 
pausing only to boo Darth Vader. Facing high demand for tie-in toys 
that had yet to be manufactured, department stores were forced to 
issue IOUs. 

In the late 1970s in America, the movie appealed to people at a time 
(when) things maybe weren't going great, says Anthony Daniels, who 
played C-3PO in six movies and several TV specials. People wanted 
something to make them feel good. 

And boy, did it take them out of their environment! 

Or as Rick McCallum, producer of the recent prequel trilogy, 
says, It was a single moment in time that's not likely to be 
repeated. 

The movie that 20th Century Fox nearly abandoned in midproduction 
ended up earning $460 million at the box office in the U.S. alone, 
boosted by the release of a special edition in 1997. The film is the 
second-highest-grossing movie of all time, behind Titanic. 

There is no competition, however, in the world of toys and other tie-
ins. The Star Wars franchise has raked in $13.5 billion in 
merchandising alone since 1977, according to Lucasfilm. 

There's no question that was the film that made the entire movie 
industry rethink its attitude toward summer movies, toward juvenile 
movies for big kids, science fiction, special effects and, of course, 
merchandising, says film historian Leonard Maltin. 

In that era, before the birth of home video, the only way to see a 
movie again was to go back and pay your admission at the theater, 
says Maltin. And people did, over and over again. 

This weekend, people who want to praise the Force can celebrate 
several ways: 

Now in bookstores is J.W. Rinzler's The Making of Star Wars ($75, Del 
Rey Books), a mammoth tome so packed with photos and facts, a wookiee 
could get a hernia trying to lift it. 

The book, surprisingly, is a first for Star Wars. But the author 
recently told the New Daily News that he stumbled across four boxes 
of transcripts in the Lucasfilm library archives from interviews that 
took place between 1975 and 1978, conducted by the film's original 
head of marketing. The background they provided formed the basis of 
the book, which is chock-full of anecdotes, behind-the-scenes photos 
and early storyboard sketches (Darth Vader, it seems, once looked 
more like a vacuum cleaner). 

Thousands of fans are expected to attend a five-day Celebration IV 
party at the Los Angeles Convention Center, May 24-28. Fanboys still 
nursing childhood crushes on Princess Leia will be excited to see 
Carrie Fisher in a rare convention appearance, and the apex of the 
event will be a marathon screening of all six movies in the saga, 
starting with Episode I: The Phantom Menace and ending with Episode 
VI: Return of the Jedi. 

Daniels, who lives in France, will also be in attendance. Every time 
I go to L.A., I check that my footprints are still in the sidewalk 
outside Grauman's Chinese Theatre, he says. I have to pick 
cigarette butts out of them, but they're still there. 

Thought the creature cantina at Mos Eisley spaceport was filled with 
a motley bunch? Watch Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed, a new two-hour 
documentary airing May 28 on the Discovery Channel, and see Newt 
Gingrich, Dan Rather and House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi comment 
alongside Lord of the Rings filmmaker Peter Jackson. Far out. 

To coincide with the anniversary, the U.S. Postal Service is issuing 
15 Star Wars stamps. (Mailboxes that look like R2-D2 have on the 
streets for the past few months to promote the release.) 

But Lucasfilm isn't stuck in the past: There are two TV series in the 
works, animated and live-action, with the latter reportedly filling 
in the blanks of what some characters were doing for the 20 years 
between Episodes III and IV. McCallum says the plan is to get them on 
the air in 2009. 

Star Wars was revolutionary, otherwise it wouldn't have lasted this 
long, says Peter Mayhew, the 7-foot-3 English actor who played 
Chewbacca. So I'll talk to you again in another 30 years. 





[scifinoir2] OT: Tap dancing boy destroys Tibetan monks' meticulous sand design

2007-05-25 Thread ravenadal
Tap dancing boy destroys Tibetan monks' meticulous sand design

Sitting cross legged for two days a group of Tibetan monks carefully 
created an intricate sand design as an expression of their Buddhist 
faith. 

However, an intervention, not of the divine variety, saw their 
efforts go to waste when a little boy who toddled into Kansas City's 
train station behind his mother spotted the display of coloured sand 
on the floor and could not resist. 

Slipping under a protective rope, he danced all over the sand, 
ruining the carefully crafted picture. 

He did a little tap dance on it, completely destroying it, said 
Lama Chuck Stanford, of Kansas City's Rhime Buddhist Center. 

Sand dance: The intricate art work designed by Tibetan monks which 
was destroyed when a young boy tap danced on it

They were more than halfway done with the design, called a mandala, 
on Tuesday when they ended their labours for the day and left. 

The little boy arrived sometime later with his mother, who was taking 
a parcel to the post office inside the vast hall. 

A surveillance camera caught the boy kicking the sand and destroying 
the work of the group of monks from the Drepung Gomang Monastery in 
southern India. 

I think I would have been pretty darn angry about that and 
disappointed and say OK I'm done, I am not going to do anything 
more, said one man. 

The monks, however, did not appear to be too despondent and have set 
about repairing the damage, which they hope to complete by the end of 
the week. 

However, they did set up a proper barrier to avoid any further 
disappointmen