Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[GWashin891]

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> very good book, i do recommend it. there's a sequel also
> 
> 

Actually 2 sequels-both are very good and feature a female black lead.


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[scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith

[tetsuwanatom1]

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Mohareb" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This may have been discussed here, can't quite recall, however I do 
recall some discussion on the film. The first script resembled SHANE 
a lot and the relationship with the married woman was supposed to be 
an "emotional affair," which suggested a lot of longing glances and 
no sealing of the deal. This may have changed . . .

>
> Has anyone heard anything about Hancock?
> 
> His first Superhero flick.
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/
> 
> http://gamera-spinning.livejournal.com/1455030.html
> 
> Looks cute.   He DOES have a relationship w ith a white woman, so I
> dunno how well that'll go over.
> 
> JJ Mohareb
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[tetsuwanatom1]

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
I don't want to see Smith in this should it ever get to the screen. 

> I could see Will in that. But it wouldn't get Keith his love story.
> 
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  "Childhood's End" is the 
Arthur C. Clarke book I would like to see 
> made into a movie. Best yet: it could star Will Smith as Jan 
> Rodricks, a brilliant young black man with a strong interest in 
> astronomy and space exploration (brother of Maia Rodricks, the most 
> beautiful woman in the world). Jan represents humanity's inability 
> to ever be satisfied, to ever be truly content, or have its 
curiosity 
> sated. It is admirable that Jan rejects the blandness and boredom 
of 
> utopia in favor of taking risks (i.e., sneaking onto the Overlords' 
> ship). It seems likely that there would be many more men and women 
> like Jan in a world such as the Overlords'. Satisfaction in life, 
no 
> matter how good, has never been one of humanity's strong suits. Jan 
> is a symbol of that truth, and it is fitting that he is the last 
> witness to the destruction and transfiguration of mankind.
> 
> ~rave!
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
> Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote:
> >
> > We were just talking about this last week...
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
> > 
> > Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> > 
> > Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of 
> producing 
> > and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF 
> novel 
> > Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> > 
> > "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while 
> promoting 
> > his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
> > happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> > 
> > Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a 
group 
> of 
> > human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an 
> alien 
> > spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the 
> commander of 
> > the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous 
> with 
> > the alien craft.
> > 
> > "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer 
> space," 
> > Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent 
> creatures 
> > is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you 
> think 
> > about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent 
creatures-
> -and 
> > I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going 
to 
> > imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and 
> if 
> > they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> > 
> > Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a 
> decade, 
> > but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not 
> only as 
> > "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the 
> Web 
> > site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, 
> which 
> > classifies it as "in development."
> > 
> > "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman 
> said. "As 
> > a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down 
with 
> him. 
> > I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet 
> Propulsion 
> > Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from 
> them. 
> > 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> > 
> > Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a 
> very 
> > large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have 
got 
> to 
> > design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and 
> because 
> > it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many 
> liberties." 
> > --Ian Spelling
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels 
will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A 
Man Without A Country"
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[scifinoir2] Re: Writer Reveals Trek Details

[tetsuwanatom1]

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, yinka oyekunle 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perhaps it's just me, but this SCREAMS preemptory strike on bad 
publicity from TREK fans, all the obsequeousness about how the fans 
are the stewards of continuity. Like they give a damn.

Nice try, but fans are going to gripe anyway.

They should start with the fact that the TRANSFORMERS scribe is doing 
the script for a franchise that's prided itself on a higher level of 
thinking (even if it hasn't always been on that level)

>
> When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that 
Kirk was the main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all 
the "star logs" & "getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or 
something).  It just seems like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to 
not include Shatner.  To me, it's like doing a remake of the old 
Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the actors name who 
played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all.  Anyone else have an 
idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  love Spock, but i'm curious how 
Kirk will fit in, and why Shatner wasn't needed for much? Is it 
because they "killed' Kirk in "Generations", so he's technically dead 
during the time when Nimoy's Spock is to be featured? (I've always 
assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, given the 
possibilities of the Nexus)
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> > Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> > Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly 
anticipated Star 
> > Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for 
the 
> > upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of 
original 
> > series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> > 
> > Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek 
history that 
> > hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take 
place 
> > before the events of the original series. 
> > 
> > "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked 
about 
> > just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci 
said in an 
> > interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, 
and 
> > that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment 
and 
> > research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> > [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With 
the 
> > original series, there was so much that could have come before 
it. It 
> > felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next 
Generation 
> > for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the 
source and 
> > to go back to what happened before it." 
> > 
> > The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in 
his 
> > iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating 
that we 
> > must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The 
truth is 
> > that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to 
do, 
> > and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't 
understand any 
> > other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would 
have 
> > shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we 
wanted to 
> > do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic 
gamble, 
> > and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a 
gamble, but 
> > I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get 
the 
> > blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the 
spirit of 
> > what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was 
it was 
> > a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> > 
> > Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with 
Transformers 
> > (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that 
adapting Trek 
> > was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every 
move. 
> > 
> > "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact 
that 
> > the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci 
said. "They have 
> > their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for 
the 
> > franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make 
sure 
> > that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and 
who are 
> > some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever-
-that 
> > they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on 
it. But, 
> > more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and 
people 
> > who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect 
it to 
> > today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like 
sci-fi or 
> > know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek 
opens on 
> > Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I loved him on Picket Fences

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I was watching "Devil in a Blue Dress" a couple of weeks ago, and i 
> kept thinking it would have been better with another actor besides 
> Denzel Washington. He was good, of course, but i couldn never forget 
> it was him playing the role. Don Cheadle as Mouse was cool because I'd 
> only seen Cheadle on "Picket Fences" at that time, so he was basically 
> an unk nown to me. Of course, even with another actor as
> the star, the changed plot still jacked up the movie...
>
>   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

And... Just kidding, what is his big ego so acceptable?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> i wouldn't be surprised about the ego thing, but still--it's Shatner!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> Keith, I heard that Sh*tner was attached o this early on, but got the 
> gate, reportedly because his ego wouldn''t fit on the screen.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
> i agree. i bet the writers will say that since young Kirk is being 
> featured, it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, though, why old 
> Spock and not old Kirk? Even if it's trully the type of story they 
> wanted to tell, it is indeed a snub: can't be viewed any way but.
>
> Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big 
> time, so i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers 
> is behind this Star Trek script...
>
> -- Original message --
> From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk 
> was the main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the 
> "star logs" & "getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or 
> something). It just seems like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to 
> not include Shatner. To me, it's like doing a remake of the old Batman 
> tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the actors name who played Robin) 
> & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else have an idea as to why 
> Shatner was "snubbed"?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
> love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and why Shatner 
> wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
> "Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's 
> Spock is to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, 
> permanently dead, given the possibilities of the Nexus)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
>
> > Writer Reveals Trek Details
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> 
> > Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated 
> Star
> > Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the
> > upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original
> > series star Leonard Nimoy.
> >
> > Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that
> > hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place
> > before the events of the original series.
> >
> > "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about
> > just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said 
> in an
> > interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and
> > that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and
> > research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of
> > [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the
> > original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It
> > felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation
> > for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and
> > to go back to what happened before it."
> >
> > The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his
> > iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we
> > must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The 
> truth is
> > that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do,
> > and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand 
> any
> > other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have
> > shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to
> > do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble,
> > and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but
> > I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the
> > blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of
> > what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it 
> was
> > a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!"
> >
> > Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers
> > (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek
> > was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move.
> >
> > "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that
> > the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They 
> have
> > their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the
> > franchise. So the goal with this 

[scifinoir2] Fw: ADFF Mourns Loss of Veteran Filmmaker St. Claire Bourne

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Really sad news - a great loss.

  
 Monday, 17 December 2007  
 It is with great sorrow that we pass on the information about the death of 
filmmaker St. Clair Bourne early Saturday morning (Dec. 15). 

  St. Clair was a friend of the African Diaspora Film Festival. Only a few 
days ago, we were chatting as he came to visit his Ghanaian filmmaker friend 
King Ampaw during the ADFF screening of King's new film "No Time to Die." 

  In an e-mail blast dated November 23, 2007, St. Clair wrote:

  THE AFRICAN DIASPORA FILM FESTIVAL HAS NOT GOTTEN THE ATTENTION THAT  IT 
DESERVES GIVEN ITS INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING AND CONNECTED  ACTIVITIES. IT 
DESERVES YOUR SUPPORT AND YOU'LL SEE GREAT FILMS AS  WELL. THIS ARTICLE BY 
FELICIA LEE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES DESCRIBES HOW  THE FESTIVAL CAME TO BE.

  ST.CLAIR BOURNE

  He then copied the NY Times article written by Felicia Lee about ADFF in 
its entirety. 

  St. Clair's contribution to documentary filmmaking is remarkable. A video 
profile of him hosted by Chester Higgins can be found on the New York Times 
page here. 

  He was a hard working, talented and generous man. Most of all, he was a 
friend and we will miss him greatly. 

  The ADFF team 



  Obituary by Tanya Kersey, Publisher/Editor, Black Talent News 

  Documentary Filmmaker St. Clair Bourne Dead at 64 posted on Dec 17, 2007 
Renowned documentary filmmaker St. Clair Bourne died early Saturday morning 
(Dec. 15) in a New York hospital after an operation to remove a brain tumor. He 
was 64. 

  According to his sister Judith, St. Clair made it through surgery without 
complication only to be attacked in the aftermath by a blood clot in his lung. 
Bourne was a veteran producer, director and writer of documentaries for HBO, 
PBS, NBC, Sundance Channel, BBC, National Geographic. 

  On Nov. 30th, before entering the hospital, Bourne wrote in his blog:
  "I'm writing to let you know that the usual stream of CHAMBA NOTES will 
not be forthcoming for about a month. I am scheduled to undergo an operation 
within the next couple weeks to remove a benign tumor that is pressing against 
my brain. While this is scary, the operation is not as dangerous as it sounds. 
First of all, the tumor is benign but it does periodically causes spasms and 
numbness in my left arm and leg. Second, the surgery will not penetrate the 
brain itself because the tumor is located on the surface of the brain. Finally, 
this type of operation, while not quite routine, has become commonplace enough 
so that most of the previous difficulties in this procedure have been worked 
out. I hope to be back in action by the new year. Send me your best wishes, 
prayers and good vibes. - St.Clair Bourne" 

  As head of his production company Chamba Mediaworks, Inc., Bourne made 
more than 45 films concentrating on cultural and political themes. Among the 
most notable, Bourne produced the feature-length, Emmy-nominated documentary 
"Half Past Autumn: The Life and Works of Gordon Parks" about the 
photojournalist and filmmaker for HBO. With actor Wesley Snipes as executive 
producer, Bourne directed "John Henrik Clarke: A Great and Mighty Walk," a 
feature length documentary about the respected historian and Pan-African 
activist. He also directed "Paul Robeson: Here I Stand!," a 2-hour documentary 
for the "American Masters" PBS series followed by "Melvin and Mario at 
Sundance," a documentary short for the Sundance Channel. 

  At the time of his death, Bourne was developing two dramatic feature film 
projects: "The Bride Price," a contemporary thriller set in Senegal about a 
romance between an African-American businessman and an African holy man's 
daughter and "The Visitor," about an African Muslim filmmaker's visit to his 
African-American counterpart just as the 9/11 attack erupts. He was shooting 
two documentaries: one about veteran Black photography Ernest Withers (who shot 
the Martin Luther King assassination photos), and the other, a documentary 
series on the rise, fall and legacy of the Black Panther Party for the PBS 
network. 

  Bourne was a founder of the Black Documentary Collective, a New 
York-based documentary service organization as well as the LA-based Black 
Association of Documentary Filmmakers-West. 

  His popular blog, "Chamba Notes," was a personal commentary about current 
productions, new projects, opinions, musings, political analysis, even 
gossip...in short, any information about new and traditional media production 
and distribution with a special focus on - but not exclusively about - the 
African Diaspora. 

  Bourne is survived by a sister, Judith Bourne, a lawyer in St. Thomas, 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[KeithBJohnson]

indeed. one of my greatest pleasures is seeing a well written and well acted 
movie with fresh new faces. I love Jamie Fox in "Ray", but the greatest 
pleasure was the young actress who played his mother. it was so cool not to 
have Regina King, Angela Bassett, etc. Fine actresses indeed, but the 
suspending of disbelief is easier when you don't know the actor so well.  It's 
why it's fun to see films made in other countries, including the rare African 
films that we get here in America. Seeing a movie with people i've never even 
seen, let alone heard of, from another country? that is fun.   I was watching 
"Devil in a Blue Dress" a couple of weeks ago, and i kept thinking it would 
have been better with another actor besides Denzel Washington. He was good, of 
course, but i couldn never forget it was him playing the role. Don Cheadle as 
Mouse was cool because I'd only seen Cheadle on "Picket Fences" at that time, 
so he was basically an unknown to me.  Of course, even with another actor as 
the star, the changed plot still jacked up the movie...

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I like Will, but think they need to expand beyond Smith, Freeman, 
Washington and Jackson when it comes to casting African American leads

Martin wrote:
>
> I could see Will in that. But it wouldn't get Keith his love story.
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> "Childhood's End" is the Arthur C. Clarke book I would like to see
> made into a movie. Best yet: it could star Will Smith as Jan
> Rodricks, a brilliant young black man with a strong interest in
> astronomy and space exploration (brother of Maia Rodricks, the most
> beautiful woman in the world). Jan represents humanity's inability
> to ever be satisfied, to ever be truly content, or have its curiosity
> sated. It is admirable that Jan rejects the blandness and boredom of
> utopia in favor of taking risks (i.e., sneaking onto the Overlords'
> ship). It seems likely that there would be many more men and women
> like Jan in a world such as the Overlords'. Satisfaction in life, no
> matter how good, has never been one of humanity's strong suits. Jan
> is a symbol of that truth, and it is fitting that he is the last
> witness to the destruction and transfiguration of mankind.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> , "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We were just talking about this last week...
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413 
> 
> >
> > Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> >
> > Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of
> producing
> > and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF
> novel
> > Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> >
> > "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while
> promoting
> > his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to
> > happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> >
> > Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group
> of
> > human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an
> alien
> > spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the
> commander of
> > the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous
> with
> > the alien craft.
> >
> > "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer
> space,"
> > Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent
> creatures
> > is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you
> think
> > about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures-
> -and
> > I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to
> > imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and
> if
> > they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> >
> > Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a
> decade,
> > but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not
> only as
> > "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the
> Web
> > site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment,
> which
> > classifies it as "in development."
> >
> > "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman
> said. "As
> > a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with
> him.
> > I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet
> Propulsion
> > Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from
> them.
> > 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> >
> > Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a
> very
> > large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got
> to
> > design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, a

RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[KeithBJohnson]

ha-ha! if we had mice in my crawlspace, i'd be down there right now with a 
flashlight and traps!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Absolutely in that case, it's killing time. But in 8 years all I've had is
a couple of
field mice coming in from the cold. I had my mom's stuff packed into my
basement,
and when I cleaned it out a month ago, I found where she had packed away
peanuts
in the shells in boxes. The shells were there, but the peanuts were gone.
I was wondering
what the Micky and Minnie were eating...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:05 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

i try to be tolerant of Nature. After all, we encroach onto her domain. But,
when i moved into my house last year, and my wife kept hearing scratching
sounds in the crawlspace under the house, i had to take action. the problem
with mice and rats, especially, is that they can multiply like crazy if not
caught in time. My exterminator said lots of people wait a few weeks too
long and end up with a whole mess of baby rodents running rampant in their
homes. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
Sometimes it works in the animals' favor, though. I don't put down traps
for the field mice that come inside during the winter...As long as they
stay in the basement out of sight. I see one once in a while when I
surprise 
them in the middle of the night. I'm sure my irregular sleeping patterns
confuse 
them.

Once a couple of weeks back, I went downstairs, and one of the little
creatures
came down after me, slid past my foot, and scurried into one of the far
reaches
of the basement. It was funny, because it was like he/she said, 'Scuse
me!', 
and took off. Tom and Jerry!

Maurice Jennings
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On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to
myself, "That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin,
Bugs Bunny, Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal
thing was very confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive
Mother Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: i
didn't like it when it was a cartoon back in the day, certainly don't want
to watch this new movie.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> 
I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com>
gmail.com 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, f

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[KeithBJohnson]

i wouldn't be surprised about the ego thing, but still--it's Shatner!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, I heard that Sh*tner was attached o this early on, but got the gate, 
reportedly because his ego wouldn''t fit on the screen.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree. i bet the writers will say that since young 
Kirk is being featured, it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, though, why old 
Spock and not old Kirk? Even if it's trully the type of story they wanted to 
tell, it is indeed a snub: can't be viewed any way but. 

Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big time, so 
i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers is behind this 
Star Trek script...

-- Original message -- 
From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk was the 
main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the "star logs" & 
"getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or something). It just seems 
like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to not include Shatner. To me, it's like 
doing a remake of the old Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the 
actors name who played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else have 
an idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and 
why Shatner wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
"Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is 
to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, 
given the possibilities of the Nexus)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
> Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
> upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
> series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> 
> Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
> hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
> before the events of the original series. 
> 
> "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
> just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
> interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
> that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
> research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
> original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
> felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
> for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
> to go back to what happened before it." 
> 
> The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
> iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
> must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
> that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
> and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
> other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
> shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
> do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
> and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
> I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
> blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
> what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
> a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> 
> Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
> (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
> was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move. 
> 
> "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
> the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
> their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
> franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
> that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
> some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
> they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
> more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
> who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
> today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi

RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[KeithBJohnson]

oh indeed. "Love Jones" is better than most of the fluff romantic comedies the 
likes of Kate Hudson and Jennifer Lopez star in...

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Good points, Keith. Good points...

I remember 'A Warm December' with Sidney Poitier and Abby Lincoln.
There are others...of course...

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:22 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

Agreed, it's not what i'm looking for. I'm looking for a movie where the
romance with a Sister is the focus--comedy or drama. I guess, though, we
have stuff like "Love Jones", "Two Can Play that Game", "Brown Sugar", etc.,
there's no dearth of Black romance at the movies. Though I would like to see
a dramatic romance at the big screen soonLooking at the American Film
Institute's list of the "Top Passionate 100 Films" of all time, i find only
two on the list with Blacks: Porgy and Bess, and Guess Who's Coming to
Dinner. Two out of one hundred! And looking at the list of the 400 nominated
films, we get a whopping three additional: Carmen Jones, Jungle Fever
(WTF?), and Mississippi Masala? Are these five films really the best of
Black-oriented romance we have in the last century??? (the answer is "no",
of course, which is why lists like the AFI's have to be taken with a grain
of salt, but still, the point is there...)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> 
I just love that movie. ...and Keith he had a Black wife with a former 
Black mistress. However, I know that does not count as a romantic comedy

Reece Jennings wrote:
>
> How about 'Enemy of the State?'
>
> Maurice Jennings
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>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net

> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]
>
> So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
> know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
aladvantage.com 
> >
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> > From: Marva
> >
> >
> >
> > Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> >
> > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> >
> > LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> > friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
> > plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5
> > million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one
> > of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> Sunday.
> >
> > "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is
> > in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of
> > box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> >
> > The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> > Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> > strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give
> > Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> >
> > "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
> > for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals
> > and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> >
> > Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> > million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
> > Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> Happyness."
> >
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Consider this.  Maybe his agenda is purely profits.  If that is the 
case, I seriously doubt if he would touch Black on Black romance.  I 
honestly can not tell what his agenda is. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> yeah, yeah! :(
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> It does look good. I like Berg and the rest of the cast.. Keith will
> be disappointed, but not surprised. I still say if Black or Black
> romantic comedies are part of Smith's agenda, he is not going to risk
> that on a blockbuster.
>
> Justin Mohareb wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone heard anything about Hancock?
> >
> > His first Superhero flick.
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/ 
> 
> >  >
> >
> > http://gamera-spinning.livejournal.com/1455030.html 
> 
> >  >
> >
> > Looks cute. He DOES have a relationship w ith a white woman, so I
> > dunno how well that'll go over.
> >
> > JJ Mohareb
> >
> > --
> > Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
> > http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com 
>  
>  >
> >
> >
>
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[scifinoir2] "Blade Runner" Final Director's Cut Available Today

[KeithBJohnson]

Supposedly this is really, truly the last release of "Blade Runner". If so, 
this is worth picking up. One of the greatest scifi movies of all time. Period. 
 I listened to Ridley Scott on NPR yesterday, and he says he's finally 
completely happy with this cut of "Blade Runner". He's cleaned up the 
soundtrack, the sound, and most of all, the video. Scott says he wasn't able to 
fight the studio over the years for the first few cuts, to his great shame and 
disappointment. Hence, the first version with Harrison Ford's voiceover 
narration (which both Ford and Scott hated doing), the happy ending, and the 
suggestion that Deckard is human. I'm not sure, but i think the final cut loses 
the voiceover. It definitely adds back the suggestion that Deckard is a 
replicant himself (Scott thinks he is, but Harrison Ford, ironically, argues 
that Deckard isn't a Replicant).  

Read the IGN review at the link below. It's long, but worth the read. It might 
be fun to shell out the extra dough for five-disc version instead of the 
two-disc set, so that you can actually see all the different versions and make 
your own decisions in the great "voiceover or no voiceover" debate.  Either 
way, for those who love this film, you gotta buy this. For those who've never 
seen "Blade Runner"--you gotta buy this. A classic, with so much that 
influences film making to this day, a great retro/future look, fantastic acting 
(especially by Rutger Hauer).  

IGN review gives the film a 10 out of 10, and gives really high marks for audio 
and video presentation.  I may have to delay buying "Planet Earth" in favor of 
this

***

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/841/841607p1.html

Quite prescient, this Bryant fellow, don't you think? Sci-fi fans have been 
looking for that definitive Blade Runner magic ever since many of them first 
laid eyes on this groundbreaking movie way back when. That it took a whopping 
25 years for this film to be finally done in a manner that befits its director 
Sir Ridley Scott's vision is a cinematic travesty. As any fan of the movie can 
attest to, Blade Runner's long-running saga of home video release delays, poor 
quality video transfers and the existence of an incredible six different 
versions of film (not counting Scott's latest version, dubbed "The Final Cut"), 
only helped to compound the problem of the movie not getting the true 
recognition that it so richly deserves.

In fact, the film only received a lukewarm response from most moviegoers when 
it was first released in 1982. Many did not understand the complex story (even 
with the last-minute addition of a voice-over narration holding the audience's 
hand) and for what it was worth, it had to go up against the phenomenon that 
was E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial that fateful summer. Having a dark and almost 
despondent story certainly did not help its case when compared against the 
sunnier feel-good fairytale of E.T. It was only years later that Blade Runner 
began to garner considerable attention when it was released onto the home video 
market. With the popularity of VHS growing during the '80s, a whole new 
generation of sci-fi fans got the chance to experience Blade Runner for what it 
really was and many soon realized the genius of Ridley Scott's dystopian view 
of the future
...

Without a doubt, Blade Runner secures its place among the top five sci-fi 
movies of all time. Its marriage of two genres, film noir and science fiction, 
proves to be a happy union, foreshadowing the emergence of the cyberpunk 
culture as a legitimate film genre -- evidenced by the popularity of The Matrix 
trilogy years later. Its dark and complex subject matter may have turned off 
audiences when it was first released in 1982, but just like the best films, it 
has been able to stand the test of time and has emerged on an even stronger 
footing. This latest feature-laden box set of Blade Runner is the best homage 
anyone can pay to a now-classic sci-fi film.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith

[KeithBJohnson]

yeah, yeah!  :(

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
It does look good. I like Berg and the rest of the cast.. Keith will 
be disappointed, but not surprised. I still say if Black or Black 
romantic comedies are part of Smith's agenda, he is not going to risk 
that on a blockbuster. 

Justin Mohareb wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard anything about Hancock?
>
> His first Superhero flick.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/ 
> 
>
> http://gamera-spinning.livejournal.com/1455030.html 
> 
>
> Looks cute. He DOES have a relationship w ith a white woman, so I
> dunno how well that'll go over.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> -- 
> Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
> http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[KeithBJohnson]

very good book, i do recommend it. there's a sequel also

-- Original message -- 
From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Pulling several threads together, "Rendezvous with Rama" is one of the
many books I own but have not yet read. Arthur C. Clarke is one of my
favorite authors and I have owned this book for decades. Must be time
to dust that puppy off.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We were just talking about this last week...
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
> 
> Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> 
> Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of producing 
> and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF novel 
> Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> 
> "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while promoting 
> his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
> happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> 
> Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group of 
> human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an alien 
> spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the
commander of 
> the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous with 
> the alien craft.
> 
> "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer space," 
> Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent
creatures 
> is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you think 
> about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent
creatures--and 
> I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
> imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and if 
> they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> 
> Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a decade, 
> but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not only as 
> "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the Web 
> site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, which 
> classifies it as "in development."
> 
> "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman said.
"As 
> a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with him. 
> I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet Propulsion 
> Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from them. 
> 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> 
> Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a very 
> large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got to 
> design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and because 
> it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many liberties." 
> --Ian Spelling
>


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

It does look good.  I like Berg and the rest of the cast..  Keith will 
be disappointed, but not surprised.  I still say if Black or Black 
romantic comedies are part of Smith's agenda, he is not going to risk 
that on a blockbuster. 

Justin Mohareb wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard anything about Hancock?
>
> His first Superhero flick.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/ 
> 
>
> http://gamera-spinning.livejournal.com/1455030.html 
> 
>
> Looks cute. He DOES have a relationship w ith a white woman, so I
> dunno how well that'll go over.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> -- 
> Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
> http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com 
>
>  


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[scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith

[Justin Mohareb]

Has anyone heard anything about Hancock?

His first Superhero flick.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448157/

http://gamera-spinning.livejournal.com/1455030.html

Looks cute.   He DOES have a relationship w ith a white woman, so I
dunno how well that'll go over.

JJ Mohareb

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I like Will, but think they need to expand beyond Smith, Freeman, 
Washington and Jackson when it comes to casting African American leads

Martin wrote:
>
> I could see Will in that. But it wouldn't get Keith his love story.
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> "Childhood's End" is the Arthur C. Clarke book I would like to see
> made into a movie. Best yet: it could star Will Smith as Jan
> Rodricks, a brilliant young black man with a strong interest in
> astronomy and space exploration (brother of Maia Rodricks, the most
> beautiful woman in the world). Jan represents humanity's inability
> to ever be satisfied, to ever be truly content, or have its curiosity
> sated. It is admirable that Jan rejects the blandness and boredom of
> utopia in favor of taking risks (i.e., sneaking onto the Overlords'
> ship). It seems likely that there would be many more men and women
> like Jan in a world such as the Overlords'. Satisfaction in life, no
> matter how good, has never been one of humanity's strong suits. Jan
> is a symbol of that truth, and it is fitting that he is the last
> witness to the destruction and transfiguration of mankind.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> , "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We were just talking about this last week...
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413 
> 
> >
> > Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> >
> > Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of
> producing
> > and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF
> novel
> > Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> >
> > "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while
> promoting
> > his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to
> > happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> >
> > Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group
> of
> > human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an
> alien
> > spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the
> commander of
> > the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous
> with
> > the alien craft.
> >
> > "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer
> space,"
> > Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent
> creatures
> > is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you
> think
> > about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures-
> -and
> > I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to
> > imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and
> if
> > they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> >
> > Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a
> decade,
> > but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not
> only as
> > "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the
> Web
> > site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment,
> which
> > classifies it as "in development."
> >
> > "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman
> said. "As
> > a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with
> him.
> > I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet
> Propulsion
> > Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from
> them.
> > 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> >
> > Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a
> very
> > large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got
> to
> > design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and
> because
> > it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many
> liberties."
> > --Ian Spelling
> >
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will 
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man 
> Without A Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I believe that!

Martin wrote:
>
> Keith, I heard that Sh*tner was attached o this early on, but got the 
> gate, reportedly because his ego wouldn''t fit on the screen.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
> i agree. i bet the writers will say that since young Kirk is being 
> featured, it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, though, why old 
> Spock and not old Kirk? Even if it's trully the type of story they 
> wanted to tell, it is indeed a snub: can't be viewed any way but.
>
> Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big 
> time, so i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers 
> is behind this Star Trek script...
>
> -- Original message --
> From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk 
> was the main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the 
> "star logs" & "getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or 
> something). It just seems like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to 
> not include Shatner. To me, it's like doing a remake of the old Batman 
> tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the actors name who played Robin) 
> & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else have an idea as to why 
> Shatner was "snubbed"?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
> love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and why Shatner 
> wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
> "Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's 
> Spock is to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, 
> permanently dead, given the possibilities of the Nexus)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
>
> > Writer Reveals Trek Details
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> 
> > Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated 
> Star
> > Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the
> > upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original
> > series star Leonard Nimoy.
> >
> > Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that
> > hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place
> > before the events of the original series.
> >
> > "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about
> > just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said 
> in an
> > interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and
> > that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and
> > research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of
> > [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the
> > original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It
> > felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation
> > for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and
> > to go back to what happened before it."
> >
> > The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his
> > iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we
> > must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The 
> truth is
> > that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do,
> > and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand 
> any
> > other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have
> > shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to
> > do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble,
> > and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but
> > I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the
> > blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of
> > what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it 
> was
> > a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!"
> >
> > Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers
> > (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek
> > was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move.
> >
> > "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that
> > the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They 
> have
> > their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the
> > franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure
> > that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are
> > some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that
> > they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star T

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I thought they just tacked them on to the list of who to hate. I don't 
know how they keep track

Daryle wrote:
>
> That, and they have new brown groups of people to hate.
>
> On 12/17/07 9:54 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tracey, I'd have to say that that's changing. From my recent 
> experiences at
> > the bottom of the health-care ladder, I've met many fine White 
> people here in
> > the nice red state of Jawja, all bound together by the certainty 
> that we're
> > all being held down by a common foe.
> >
> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> >  > wrote: What about the
> > white poor in the reds states taught to hate us by those
> > with money
> >
> > Martin wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No, Tracey, not the world.
> >> >
> >> > Just those in it who have the money.
> >> >
> >> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> >> 
> >> > > wrote: I still 
> think it
> >> > has to be a low budget art house flick that becomes a
> >> > hit. I live near Microsoft which I have found out is a republication,
> >> > Christian, morman stronghold, so my perceptions are a little off. I
> >> > think the world hates us.
> >> >
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> >>  wrote:
> >>> > > So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :(
> >>> > > (You know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -- Original message --
> >>> > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> >> 
> >> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
>  > >>  Original Message 
>  > >> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
>  > >> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
>  > >> From: Marva
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
>  > >>
>  > >> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
>  > >>
>  > >> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has 
> a lot of
>  > >> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith 
> as a
> >> > plague
>  > >> survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with 
> $76.5 million,
>  > >> the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one of
>  > >> Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> >> > Sunday.
>  > >>
>  > >> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on 
> Earth
> >> > is in
>  > >> the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of 
> box-office
>  > >> tracker Media By Numbers.
>  > >>
>  > >> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," 
> starring
>  > >> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> >> > strong
>  > >> No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give 
> Hollywood a
>  > >> year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
>  > >>
>  > >> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice 
> president
>  > >> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal
> >> > animals and
>  > >> they do hibernate, but not right now."
>  > >>
>  > >> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
>  > >> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, 
> when
> >> > Smith
>  > >> also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> >> > Happyness."
>  > >>
>  > >> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
>  > >> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third 
> with $9
>  > >> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its 
> less-than-expected $25.8
>  > >> million debut a week earlier.
>  > >>
>  > >> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, 
> has done $90
>  > >> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically 
> with just
> >> > $41
>  > >> million.
>  > >>
>  > >> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut
> >> > record,
>  > >> easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, 
> Robot" and
>  > >> "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid 
> the $72.6
>  > >> million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The 
> Return of the
>  > >> King," the previous best December opening.
>  > >>
>  > >> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman,
> >> > 

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I hope that is true.  It is my fear that one day they will wake up too 
late to the cold reality that we were not their enemies, but fellow 
victims and that they were used to help take themselves down

Martin wrote:
>
> Tracey, I'd have to say that that's changing. From my recent 
> experiences at the bottom of the health-care ladder, I've met many 
> fine White people here in the nice red state of Jawja, all bound 
> together by the certainty that we're all being held down by a common foe.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: What about the 
> white poor in the reds states taught to hate us by those
> with money
>
> Martin wrote:
> >
> > No, Tracey, not the world.
> >
> > Just those in it who have the money.
> >
> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > > wrote: I still think it
> > has to be a low budget art house flick that becomes a
> > hit. I live near Microsoft which I have found out is a republication,
> > Christian, morman stronghold, so my perceptions are a little off. I
> > think the world hates us.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  wrote:
> > > So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :(
> > > (You know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
> > >
> > > -- Original message --
> > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>  Original Message 
> > >> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> > >> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> > >> From: Marva
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> > >>
> > >> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> > >>
> > >> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> > >> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
> > plague
> > >> survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5 
> million,
> > >> the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one of
> > >> Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> > Sunday.
> > >>
> > >> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth
> > is in
> > >> the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office
> > >> tracker Media By Numbers.
> > >>
> > >> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> > >> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> > strong
> > >> No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give Hollywood a
> > >> year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> > >>
> > >> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice 
> president
> > >> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal
> > animals and
> > >> they do hibernate, but not right now."
> > >>
> > >> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> > >> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
> > Smith
> > >> also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> > Happyness."
> > >>
> > >> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
> > >> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
> > >> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
> > >> million debut a week earlier.
> > >>
> > >> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has 
> done $90
> > >> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just
> > $41
> > >> million.
> > >>
> > >> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut
> > record,
> > >> easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, Robot" and
> > >> "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid the $72.6
> > >> million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the
> > >> King," the previous best December opening.
> > >>
> > >> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman,
> > head of
> > >> distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office 
> star in
> > >> the world today."
> > >>
> > >> Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent
> > >> Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega 
> Man,"
> > >> "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and
> > >> fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the
> > plague
> > >> into vampire-like creatures.
> > >>
> > >> Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their
> > second
> > >> weekends.
> > >>
> > >> Focus Features' "Atonement" --- a tragic romance that led the
> > Globes with
> > >> seven nominatio

RE: [scifinoir2] [Rumour] Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'

[Martin]

So did I, once I'd caught my error. One image in particular, of Martha finding 
sheep-shears in the TARDIS control room...

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  LOLLOLLOL!!! I gotta admit, 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:06 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Rumour] Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'

8-O 8-O 8-O

LMNAO correction, CORRECTION!

"sheer popularity"! I've got the man doing unnatural acts...

Martin mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: Tracey, it's his sheep popularity. No one expected him to be as big a
hit as he's been. They might be afraid that they'll lose viewers if he goes.
And that probably would happen.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> wrote: it
seems as if that have been harding toward his leaving since they 
begin to deny the rumors six months ago. If he can not work on a series 
for a year because he is doing plays, Why don't they just replace him 
like they always do?

Brent Wodehouse wrote:
>
> http://news. 
bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7145965.stm 
> 
bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7145965.stm>
>
> Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'
>
> Catherine Tate has suggested that the next series of Doctor Who could be
> the last for actor David Tennant.
>
> The comedian, speaking on Radio 2's Jonathan Ross programme, said: "I
> think it's maybe David's last series."
>
> The BBC refused to comment on Mr Tennant's future as the show's star.
>
> Tate, who first appeared in the 2006 Christmas special, is to return as
> the doctor's assistant, Donna, for the entire run of the fourth series.
>
> She will also be joined for several episodes by the doctor's former
> companion Martha Jones, played by Freema Agyeman.
>
> When pressed on whether Tennant would return to play the timelord in
> special Dr Who shows in future, Tate replied: "Possibly."
>
> The comedian also confirmed that the forthcoming series would be her last.
>
> Tate made her Doctor Who debut last year as a runaway bride who found
> herself transported into the Tardis as she prepared for her wedding on
> Christmas Eve.
>
> The episode attracted an audience of 9.4 million when it was screened on
> BBC One on Christmas Day.
>
> This year's Christmas special, starring Kylie Minogue, is due to be
> screened at 1850 GMT on 25 December.
>
> Speaking to Doctor Who magazine, the pop star said appearing in the show
> was "like stepping back in time".
>
> "I really felt at home being back in the world of TV," she added. "I've
> definitely got the acting bug again!"
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] [Rumour] Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'

[Martin]

LMNAO!!!

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
k Every time I reread your reaction to sheep popularity, I fall out 
laughing.

I've always heard the people in the UK are into some kinky stuff, so 
maybe the women there like what he does with sheep
>
>
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
> [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Martin
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:06 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Rumour] Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'
>
> 8-O 8-O 8-O
>
> LMNAO correction, CORRECTION!
>
> "sheer popularity"! I've got the man doing unnatural acts...
>
> Martin mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote: Tracey, it's his sheep popularity. No one expected him to be as 
> big a
> hit as he's been. They might be afraid that they'll lose viewers if he 
> goes.
> And that probably would happen.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  aladvantage.com> wrote: it
> seems as if that have been harding toward his leaving since they
> begin to deny the rumors six months ago. If he can not work on a series
> for a year because he is doing plays, Why don't they just replace him
> like they always do?
>
> Brent Wodehouse wrote:
> >
> > http://news.  >
> bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7145965.stm
> >  >
> bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7145965.stm>
> >
> > Tennant 'is leaving Doctor Who'
> >
> > Catherine Tate has suggested that the next series of Doctor Who could be
> > the last for actor David Tennant.
> >
> > The comedian, speaking on Radio 2's Jonathan Ross programme, said: "I
> > think it's maybe David's last series."
> >
> > The BBC refused to comment on Mr Tennant's future as the show's star.
> >
> > Tate, who first appeared in the 2006 Christmas special, is to return as
> > the doctor's assistant, Donna, for the entire run of the fourth series.
> >
> > She will also be joined for several episodes by the doctor's former
> > companion Martha Jones, played by Freema Agyeman.
> >
> > When pressed on whether Tennant would return to play the timelord in
> > special Dr Who shows in future, Tate replied: "Possibly."
> >
> > The comedian also confirmed that the forthcoming series would be her 
> last.
> >
> > Tate made her Doctor Who debut last year as a runaway bride who found
> > herself transported into the Tardis as she prepared for her wedding on
> > Christmas Eve.
> >
> > The episode attracted an audience of 9.4 million when it was screened on
> > BBC One on Christmas Day.
> >
> > This year's Christmas special, starring Kylie Minogue, is due to be
> > screened at 1850 GMT on 25 December.
> >
> > Speaking to Doctor Who magazine, the pop star said appearing in the show
> > was "like stepping back in time".
> >
> > "I really felt at home being back in the world of TV," she added. "I've
> > definitely got the acting bug again!"
> >
> >
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Television Question

[Martin]

LMNAO!

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Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Television Question

Then that makes two of us...

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Comcast=Comcrap=EVIL

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote: Hey
All

I am doing research into cable. It seems like cable is a better deal
than satellite and I have heard some unpleasant stories about
Satellite service. However, I have no real experience with Satellite.

Anyone got any advice, tips, pointers, nightmare stories or pleasant
annecdotes?

Help Me, I'm TV stupid

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RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[Reece Jennings]

Absolutely in that case, it's killing time.  But in 8 years all I've had is
a couple of
field mice coming in from the cold.  I had my mom's stuff packed into my
basement,
and when I cleaned it out a month ago, I found where she had packed away
peanuts
in the shells in boxes.  The shells were there, but the peanuts were gone.
I was wondering
what the Micky and Minnie were eating...
 
Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:05 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil



i try to be tolerant of Nature. After all, we encroach onto her domain. But,
when i moved into my house last year, and my wife kept hearing scratching
sounds in the crawlspace under the house, i had to take action. the problem
with mice and rats, especially, is that they can multiply like crazy if not
caught in time. My exterminator said lots of people wait a few weeks too
long and end up with a whole mess of baby rodents running rampant in their
homes. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
Sometimes it works in the animals' favor, though. I don't put down traps
for the field mice that come inside during the winter...As long as they
stay in the basement out of sight. I see one once in a while when I
surprise 
them in the middle of the night. I'm sure my irregular sleeping patterns
confuse 
them.

Once a couple of weeks back, I went downstairs, and one of the little
creatures
came down after me, slid past my foot, and scurried into one of the far
reaches
of the basement. It was funny, because it was like he/she said, 'Scuse
me!', 
and took off. Tom and Jerry!

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On
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to
myself, "That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin,
Bugs Bunny, Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal
thing was very confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive
Mother Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: i
didn't like it when it was a cartoon back in the day, certainly don't want
to watch this new movie.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> 
I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com>
gmail.com 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, following the Dec. 7 release of ``The 
> Golden
> Compass.'' As of Dec. 14, the world's largest media company had $1.7 
> billion
> in box office sales this year, the most among i

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[Martin]

Keith, I heard that Sh*tner was attached o this early on, but got the gate, 
reportedly because his ego wouldn''t fit on the screen.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i agree. i bet the writers will say that 
since young Kirk is being featured, it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, 
though, why old Spock and not old Kirk? Even if it's trully the type of story 
they wanted to tell, it is indeed a snub: can't be viewed any way but. 

Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big time, so 
i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers is behind this 
Star Trek script...

-- Original message -- 
From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk was the 
main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the "star logs" & 
"getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or something). It just seems 
like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to not include Shatner. To me, it's like 
doing a remake of the old Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the 
actors name who played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else have 
an idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and 
why Shatner wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
"Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is 
to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, 
given the possibilities of the Nexus)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
> Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
> upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
> series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> 
> Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
> hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
> before the events of the original series. 
> 
> "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
> just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
> interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
> that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
> research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
> original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
> felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
> for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
> to go back to what happened before it." 
> 
> The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
> iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
> must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
> that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
> and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
> other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
> shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
> do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
> and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
> I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
> blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
> what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
> a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> 
> Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
> (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
> was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move. 
> 
> "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
> the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
> their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
> franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
> that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
> some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
> they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
> more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
> who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
> today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or 
> know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on 
> Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! 

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Daryle]

That, and they have new brown groups of people to hate.


On 12/17/07 9:54 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> Tracey, I'd have to say that that's changing. From my recent experiences at
> the bottom of the health-care ladder, I've met many fine White people here in
> the nice red state of Jawja, all bound together by the certainty that we're
> all being held down by a common foe.
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > wrote:  What about the
> white poor in the reds states taught to hate us by those
> with money
> 
> Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > No, Tracey, not the world.
>> >
>> > Just those in it who have the money.
>> >
>> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> > > wrote: I still think it
>> > has to be a low budget art house flick that becomes a
>> > hit. I live near Microsoft which I have found out is a republication,
>> > Christian, morman stronghold, so my perceptions are a little off. I
>> > think the world hates us.
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>  wrote:
>>> > > So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :(
>>> > > (You know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
>>> > >
>>> > > -- Original message --
>>> > > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
 > >>  Original Message 
 > >> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
 > >> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
 > >> From: Marva
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
 > >>
 > >> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
 > >>
 > >> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
 > >> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
>> > plague
 > >> survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5 million,
 > >> the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one of
 > >> Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
>> > Sunday.
 > >>
 > >> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth
>> > is in
 > >> the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office
 > >> tracker Media By Numbers.
 > >>
 > >> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
 > >> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
>> > strong
 > >> No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give Hollywood a
 > >> year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
 > >>
 > >> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
 > >> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal
>> > animals and
 > >> they do hibernate, but not right now."
 > >>
 > >> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
 > >> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
>> > Smith
 > >> also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
>> > Happyness."
 > >>
 > >> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
 > >> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
 > >> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
 > >> million debut a week earlier.
 > >>
 > >> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90
 > >> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just
>> > $41
 > >> million.
 > >>
 > >> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut
>> > record,
 > >> easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, Robot" and
 > >> "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid the $72.6
 > >> million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the
 > >> King," the previous best December opening.
 > >>
 > >> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman,
>> > head of
 > >> distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star in
 > >> the world today."
 > >>
 > >> Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent
 > >> Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
 > >> "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and
 > >> fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the
>> > plague
 > >> into vampire-like creatures.
 > >>
 > >> Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their
>> > second
 >

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Martin]

Tracey, I'd have to say that that's changing. From my recent experiences at the 
bottom of the health-care ladder, I've met many fine White people here in the 
nice red state of Jawja, all bound together by the certainty that we're all 
being held down by a common foe.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
What about the white poor in the reds states taught to hate us by those 
with money

Martin wrote:
>
> No, Tracey, not the world.
>
> Just those in it who have the money.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: I still think it 
> has to be a low budget art house flick that becomes a
> hit. I live near Microsoft which I have found out is a republication,
> Christian, morman stronghold, so my perceptions are a little off. I
> think the world hates us.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> > So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :(
> > (You know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> >
> >
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> >> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> >> From: Marva
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> >>
> >> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> >>
> >> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> >> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a 
> plague
> >> survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5 million,
> >> the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one of
> >> Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates 
> Sunday.
> >>
> >> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth 
> is in
> >> the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office
> >> tracker Media By Numbers.
> >>
> >> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> >> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a 
> strong
> >> No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give Hollywood a
> >> year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> >>
> >> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
> >> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal 
> animals and
> >> they do hibernate, but not right now."
> >>
> >> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> >> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when 
> Smith
> >> also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of 
> Happyness."
> >>
> >> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
> >> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
> >> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
> >> million debut a week earlier.
> >>
> >> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90
> >> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just 
> $41
> >> million.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut 
> record,
> >> easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, Robot" and
> >> "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid the $72.6
> >> million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the
> >> King," the previous best December opening.
> >>
> >> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman, 
> head of
> >> distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star in
> >> the world today."
> >>
> >> Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent
> >> Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
> >> "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and
> >> fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the 
> plague
> >> into vampire-like creatures.
> >>
> >> Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their 
> second
> >> weekends.
> >>
> >> Focus Features' "Atonement" --- a tragic romance that led the 
> Globes with
> >> seven nominations, including best drama and acting honors for Keira
> >> Knightley and James McAvoy --- pulled in $1.85 million in 117 
> theaters.
> >> That gave "Atonement" a strong average of $15,835 a theater, 
> compared to
> >> $21,224 in 3,606 cinemas for "I Am Legend."
> >>
> >> Fox Searchlight's "Juno," a teen-pregnancy comedy whose three
> >> nominations included best comedy or musical and an acting honor for
> >> Ellen Page, grossed $1.44 million in 40 theaters for a $36,018 
> average.
> >>
> >> "Atonement" and "Juno" expand into nationwide release over the next
> >> three weekends.
> >>
> >> Another Golden Gl

[scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[ravenadal]

Pulling several threads together, "Rendezvous with Rama" is one of the
many books I own but have not yet read.  Arthur C. Clarke is one of my
favorite authors and I have owned this book for decades.  Must be time
to dust that puppy off.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We were just talking about this last week...
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
>   
> Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> 
> Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of producing 
> and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF novel 
> Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> 
> "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while promoting 
> his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
> happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> 
> Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group of 
> human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an alien 
> spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the
commander of 
> the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous with 
> the alien craft.
> 
> "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer space," 
> Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent
creatures 
> is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you think 
> about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent
creatures--and 
> I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
> imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and if 
> they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> 
> Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a decade, 
> but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not only as 
> "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the Web 
> site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, which 
> classifies it as "in development."
> 
> "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman said.
"As 
> a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with him. 
> I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet Propulsion 
> Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from them. 
> 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> 
> Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a very 
> large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got to 
> design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and because 
> it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many liberties." 
> --Ian Spelling
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[Martin]

I could see Will in that. But it wouldn't get Keith his love story.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  "Childhood's End" is the Arthur 
C. Clarke book I would like to see 
made into a movie. Best yet: it could star Will Smith as Jan 
Rodricks, a brilliant young black man with a strong interest in 
astronomy and space exploration (brother of Maia Rodricks, the most 
beautiful woman in the world). Jan represents humanity's inability 
to ever be satisfied, to ever be truly content, or have its curiosity 
sated. It is admirable that Jan rejects the blandness and boredom of 
utopia in favor of taking risks (i.e., sneaking onto the Overlords' 
ship). It seems likely that there would be many more men and women 
like Jan in a world such as the Overlords'. Satisfaction in life, no 
matter how good, has never been one of humanity's strong suits. Jan 
is a symbol of that truth, and it is fitting that he is the last 
witness to the destruction and transfiguration of mankind.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We were just talking about this last week...
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
> 
> Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> 
> Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of 
producing 
> and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF 
novel 
> Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> 
> "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while 
promoting 
> his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
> happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> 
> Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group 
of 
> human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an 
alien 
> spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the 
commander of 
> the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous 
with 
> the alien craft.
> 
> "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer 
space," 
> Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent 
creatures 
> is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you 
think 
> about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures-
-and 
> I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
> imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and 
if 
> they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> 
> Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a 
decade, 
> but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not 
only as 
> "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the 
Web 
> site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, 
which 
> classifies it as "in development."
> 
> "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman 
said. "As 
> a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with 
him. 
> I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet 
Propulsion 
> Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from 
them. 
> 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> 
> Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a 
very 
> large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got 
to 
> design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and 
because 
> it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many 
liberties." 
> --Ian Spelling
>



 


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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

[Reece Jennings]

I'd be honored to be introduced to your cast-offs, Martin!
 
But I'm sure...I have always been a loner.  My parents knew it, too.
When I was about 6 or 7, my dad would leave me in the woods fishing
in the morning.  He would check on me at noon, then pick me up when he
got off from work.  I enjoyed the woods, and the quiet.  Still do.  
 
Although I'm proud of, and love deeply, my ex-wife, my children, and my
grandchildren, I won't have another spirit share my space in my house.
 
I'm sure there are some psychological reasons (I KNOW there are, but I ain't
tellin'!),
but I don't want to try to fix what ain't broke...
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:09 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread



Reece, you sure about that? I can find you a lot of fine young ladies, if
you don't mind my cast-offs...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: Most of my books are in bins in my attic. I'll have to go through
them...maybe buy
a bookcase. If I had a wife...hmmm...nawww, I'll get one myself. A
bookcase I mean!
Here are the ones I could find in my sunporch...(My what)

Black Military Books...

Blood for Dignity -- David P. Colley
Benjamin O. Davis, an autiobiography
The Forgotten Heroes -- Clinton Cox...about the Buffalo Soldiers
The Right to Fight -- Gerald Astor
Brothers In Arms -- Kareem Abdul Jabbar...about the 761st Tank Battallion
Bloods -- Wallace Terry
The Road to Victory -- David P. Colley...about the Red Ball Express

Octavia Butler's Books

TheTrilogy -- Dawn, Imago, and Adulthood Rites
Fledgling
Parable of the Sower
Parable of the Talents
Wild Seed
Mind of my Mind
BloodChild

Hope this helps!

Oh...here are a few that don't fall into those 2 categories...

And Then We Heard The Thunder -- John Oliver Killens...fiction about Black
Military in WWII, their experiences in the deep South, and the culmination
of
events in Australia. Great story!

The Sista Network -- Tuesday Cooper...Tuesday is a sister from the Bronx.
She was
a professor of mine at Springfield (MA) College School of Human Services.
She has
a double Masters and a Juris Doctorate. She's a completely down to earth
maniacal
lady who wrote a 'how to' book for Black Women trying to navigate the 'Halls
of Ivy'.

Speak so you can Speak Again -- Lucy Ann Hurston...A book about her aunt,
Zora Neale
Hurston. Lucy is a great friend of mine, and the book has been so well
received that she
is constantly on tour.

Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria -- Beverly
Daniel Tatum, Ph. D.
Psycho-Cybernetics
The Bond -- The Three Doctors...How three Black doctors grew up in Newark,
NJ without their
fathers, became friends, supported each other through to becoming doctors.
How they found, 
researched, and reconciled with their fathers.

Snot Bubbles -- Helma Clark...a football primer for women/wives...

Ain't Understanding Mellow -- Michele Davis...I met Michele on a listserv,
Boston Blacks Online.
We became friends. She lives in Chicago not far from my daughter and
grandchildren, and she
wrote her first book while on the listserv. Excellent story about a single
mom growing up and
raising 4 children.

Simon Says -- Colleen Dixon...another sister I met online who wrote a novel.
Great story!


Maurice Jennings
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I have got to get a copy of your reading list if I can, sir...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I've read all of the ones I've bought. I have all of Octavia Butler's
books, 
and as many Black Military History books as I could find...

Maurice Jennings
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RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Reece Jennings]

Good points, Keith.  Good points...
 
I remember 'A Warm December' with Sidney Poitier and Abby Lincoln.
There are others...of course...
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:22 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Agreed, it's not what i'm looking for. I'm looking for a movie where the
romance with a Sister is the focus--comedy or drama. I guess, though, we
have stuff like "Love Jones", "Two Can Play that Game", "Brown Sugar", etc.,
there's no dearth of Black romance at the movies. Though I would like to see
a dramatic romance at the big screen soonLooking at the American Film
Institute's list of the "Top Passionate 100 Films" of all time, i find only
two on the list with Blacks: Porgy and Bess, and Guess Who's Coming to
Dinner. Two out of one hundred! And looking at the list of the 400 nominated
films, we get a whopping three additional: Carmen Jones, Jungle Fever
(WTF?), and Mississippi Masala? Are these five films really the best of
Black-oriented romance we have in the last century??? (the answer is "no",
of course, which is why lists like the AFI's have to be taken with a grain
of salt, but still, the point is there...)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just love that movie. ...and Keith he had a Black wife with a former 
Black mistress. However, I know that does not count as a romantic comedy

Reece Jennings wrote:
>
> How about 'Enemy of the State?'
>
> Maurice Jennings
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net

> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]
>
> So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
> know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
aladvantage.com 
> >
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> > From: Marva
> >
> >
> >
> > Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> >
> > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> >
> > LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> > friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
> > plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5
> > million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one
> > of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> Sunday.
> >
> > "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is
> > in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of
> > box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> >
> > The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> > Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> > strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give
> > Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> >
> > "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
> > for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals
> > and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> >
> > Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> > million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
> > Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> Happyness."
> >
> > The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
> > Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
> > million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
>

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

[Reece Jennings]

Thanks, Martin.  I have always loved to read.  I still keep a book in the
bathroom.
Right now it's Bill Cosby and Dr. Alvin Poussaint's 'Come on People'.
 
I'm betting you guys have some great lists, too!
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:10 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread



Seriously, those are some great titles.

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: Most of my books are in bins in my attic. I'll have to go through
them...maybe buy
a bookcase. If I had a wife...hmmm...nawww, I'll get one myself. A
bookcase I mean!
Here are the ones I could find in my sunporch...(My what)

Black Military Books...

Blood for Dignity -- David P. Colley
Benjamin O. Davis, an autiobiography
The Forgotten Heroes -- Clinton Cox...about the Buffalo Soldiers
The Right to Fight -- Gerald Astor
Brothers In Arms -- Kareem Abdul Jabbar...about the 761st Tank Battallion
Bloods -- Wallace Terry
The Road to Victory -- David P. Colley...about the Red Ball Express

Octavia Butler's Books

TheTrilogy -- Dawn, Imago, and Adulthood Rites
Fledgling
Parable of the Sower
Parable of the Talents
Wild Seed
Mind of my Mind
BloodChild

Hope this helps!

Oh...here are a few that don't fall into those 2 categories...

And Then We Heard The Thunder -- John Oliver Killens...fiction about Black
Military in WWII, their experiences in the deep South, and the culmination
of
events in Australia. Great story!

The Sista Network -- Tuesday Cooper...Tuesday is a sister from the Bronx.
She was
a professor of mine at Springfield (MA) College School of Human Services.
She has
a double Masters and a Juris Doctorate. She's a completely down to earth
maniacal
lady who wrote a 'how to' book for Black Women trying to navigate the 'Halls
of Ivy'.

Speak so you can Speak Again -- Lucy Ann Hurston...A book about her aunt,
Zora Neale
Hurston. Lucy is a great friend of mine, and the book has been so well
received that she
is constantly on tour.

Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria -- Beverly
Daniel Tatum, Ph. D.
Psycho-Cybernetics
The Bond -- The Three Doctors...How three Black doctors grew up in Newark,
NJ without their
fathers, became friends, supported each other through to becoming doctors.
How they found, 
researched, and reconciled with their fathers.

Snot Bubbles -- Helma Clark...a football primer for women/wives...

Ain't Understanding Mellow -- Michele Davis...I met Michele on a listserv,
Boston Blacks Online.
We became friends. She lives in Chicago not far from my daughter and
grandchildren, and she
wrote her first book while on the listserv. Excellent story about a single
mom growing up and
raising 4 children.

Simon Says -- Colleen Dixon...another sister I met online who wrote a novel.
Great story!


Maurice Jennings
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I have got to get a copy of your reading list if I can, sir...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I've read all of the ones I've bought. I have all of Octavia Butler's
books, 
and as many Black Military History books as I could find...

Maurice Jennings
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On
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

rave, back when I could afford the expense, I was the same way regardign
books. I could blow hundreds a month at bookstores, and still have yet 

RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[KeithBJohnson]

i try to be tolerant of Nature. After all, we encroach onto her domain. But, 
when i moved into my house last year, and my wife kept hearing scratching 
sounds in the crawlspace under the house, i had to take action. the problem 
with mice and rats, especially, is that they can multiply like crazy if not 
caught in time. My exterminator said lots of people wait a few weeks too long 
and end up with a whole mess of baby rodents running rampant in their homes. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Sometimes it works in the animals' favor, though. I don't put down traps
for the field mice that come inside during the winter...As long as they
stay in the basement out of sight. I see one once in a while when I
surprise 
them in the middle of the night. I'm sure my irregular sleeping patterns
confuse 
them.

Once a couple of weeks back, I went downstairs, and one of the little
creatures
came down after me, slid past my foot, and scurried into one of the far
reaches
of the basement. It was funny, because it was like he/she said, 'Scuse
me!', 
and took off. Tom and Jerry!

Maurice Jennings
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:20 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to
myself, "That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin,
Bugs Bunny, Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal
thing was very confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive
Mother Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: i
didn't like it when it was a cartoon back in the day, certainly don't want
to watch this new movie.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> 
I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com>
gmail.com 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, following the Dec. 7 release of ``The 
> Golden
> Compass.'' As of Dec. 14, the world's largest media company had $1.7 
> billion
> in box office sales this year, the most among its competitors, 
> according to
> researcher Box Office Mojo LLC.
>
> ``This is the perfect movie for Will Smith. It's sci-fi, yet it's an
> intelligent film,'' Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers, 
> said
> in an interview.
>
> In ``I Am Legend,'' Smith portrays one of the last humans to survive a 
> virus
> that turns people into flesh-eating monsters. Smith works on a cure during
> the day and hides from the demons in a barricaded New York townhouse at
> night, when they hunt.
>
> Exceeds Sales Estimate
>
> Ticket sales for the movie beat the $51.5 million estimate of Burbank,
> California-based Box Office Mojo. As of Dec. 14, ``I Am Legend'' received
> lukewarm response, with 65 positive reviews out of 110 tracked by
> RottenTomatoes.com.
>
> ``Alvin and the Chipmunks,'' based on the 1980s cartoon series, features a
> computer-animated version of the high-pitched singing trio.
>
> The movie received poor reviews, with New York Post's Lou Lumenick 
> writing,
> ``For adults, it's like being hit over the head with a mallet every 10
> seconds for 90 minutes

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[Daryle]

Yeah I was thinking the same: ³ya may not want to  take credit  for writing
the DIALOGUE in Transformers, as that was the worst part of the picture.²


On 12/17/07 8:07 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> i agree. i bet the writers will say that since young Kirk is being featured,
> it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, though, why old Spock and not old
> Kirk? Even if it's trully the type of story they wanted to tell, it is indeed
> a snub: can't be viewed any way but.
> 
> Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big time, so
> i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers is behind this
> Star Trek script...
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
> When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk was the
> main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the "star logs" &
> "getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or something). It just seems
> like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to not include Shatner. To me, it's
> like doing a remake of the old Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the
> actors name who played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else
> have an idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: love
> Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and why Shatner wasn't needed for
> much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in "Generations", so he's technically
> dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is to be featured? (I've always
> assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, given the possibilities of
> the Nexus)
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
> 
>> > Writer Reveals Trek Details
>> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451
>> 
>> > Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star
>> > Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the
>> > upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original
>> > series star Leonard Nimoy.
>> > 
>> > Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that
>> > hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place
>> > before the events of the original series.
>> > 
>> > "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about
>> > just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an
>> > interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and
>> > that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and
>> > research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of
>> > [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the
>> > original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It
>> > felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation
>> > for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and
>> > to go back to what happened before it."
>> > 
>> > The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his
>> > iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we
>> > must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is
>> > that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do,
>> > and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any
>> > other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have
>> > shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to
>> > do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble,
>> > and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but
>> > I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the
>> > blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of
>> > what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was
>> > a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!"
>> > 
>> > Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers
>> > (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek
>> > was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move.
>> > 
>> > "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that
>> > the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have
>> > their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the
>> > franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure
>> > that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are
>> > some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that
>> > they be satisfied with anything that 

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[KeithBJohnson]

i agree. i bet the writers will say that since young Kirk is being featured, 
it's *still* about Kirk. I just wonder, though, why old Spock and not old Kirk? 
Even if it's trully the type of story they wanted to tell, it is indeed a snub: 
can't be viewed any way but. 

Also, I thought the script and dialogue for "Transformers" sucked big time, so 
i'm not exactly comforted by the fact that one of its writers is behind this 
Star Trek script...

-- Original message -- 
From: yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk was the 
main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the "star logs" & 
"getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or something). It just seems 
like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to not include Shatner. To me, it's like 
doing a remake of the old Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the 
actors name who played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all. Anyone else have 
an idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and 
why Shatner wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
"Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is 
to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, 
given the possibilities of the Nexus)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
> Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
> upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
> series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> 
> Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
> hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
> before the events of the original series. 
> 
> "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
> just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
> interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
> that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
> research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
> original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
> felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
> for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
> to go back to what happened before it." 
> 
> The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
> iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
> must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
> that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
> and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
> other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
> shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
> do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
> and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
> I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
> blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
> what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
> a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> 
> Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
> (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
> was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move. 
> 
> "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
> the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
> their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
> franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
> that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
> some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
> they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
> more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
> who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
> today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or 
> know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on 
> Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Television Question

[Daryle]

I have Time Warner and am very happy  with  it. When I was in New Jersey I
had Comcast and it was rubbish.  Time Warner gives good service and a fair
price. Their internet  service is also  faster  and better than when I had
Comcast. They are ok in my  book. I can NOT  say the same for their phone
service, and I know that they try to push that on new subscribers.  Just
say no. 

I don¹t subscribe to TW¹s  ³HD² service, because everything I want to  see
in HD (soccer, TCM, and random science fiction) are not on any specific HD
channel.


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>  
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[scifinoir2] Re: Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[ravenadal]

"Childhood's End" is the Arthur C. Clarke book I would like to see 
made into a movie.  Best yet: it could star Will Smith as Jan 
Rodricks, a brilliant young black man with a strong interest in 
astronomy and space exploration (brother of Maia Rodricks, the most 
beautiful woman in the world).  Jan represents humanity's inability 
to ever be satisfied, to ever be truly content, or have its curiosity 
sated. It is admirable that Jan rejects the blandness and boredom of 
utopia in favor of taking risks (i.e., sneaking onto the Overlords' 
ship). It seems likely that there would be many more men and women 
like Jan in a world such as the Overlords'. Satisfaction in life, no 
matter how good, has never been one of humanity's strong suits. Jan 
is a symbol of that truth, and it is fitting that he is the last 
witness to the destruction and transfiguration of mankind.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We were just talking about this last week...
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
>   
> Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?
> 
> Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of 
producing 
> and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF 
novel 
> Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.
> 
> "That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while 
promoting 
> his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
> happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."
> 
> Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group 
of 
> human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an 
alien 
> spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the 
commander of 
> the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous 
with 
> the alien craft.
> 
> "The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer 
space," 
> Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent 
creatures 
> is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you 
think 
> about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures-
-and 
> I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
> imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and 
if 
> they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"
> 
> Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a 
decade, 
> but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not 
only as 
> "announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the 
Web 
> site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, 
which 
> classifies it as "in development."
> 
> "We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman 
said. "As 
> a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with 
him. 
> I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet 
Propulsion 
> Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from 
them. 
> 'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"
> 
> Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a 
very 
> large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got 
to 
> design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and 
because 
> it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many 
liberties." 
> --Ian Spelling
>

Re: [scifinoir2] The Dark Knight trailer

[Mike Street]

I dunno I wasn't wow'd by the trailer at all. I feel a over hype little
deliverly machine about to come into effect.

On Dec 17, 2007 3:52 PM, yinka oyekunle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   absolutely can't wait for the release of this film. I think this is the
> best comic to movie translation (next to Spiderman 2)
>
> Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> http://www.movieweb.com/video/V07L5asvzIKLQS
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] The Dark Knight trailer

[yinka oyekunle]

absolutely can't wait for the release of this film.  I think this is the best 
comic to movie translation (next to Spiderman 2)

Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
http://www.movieweb.com/video/V07L5asvzIKLQS

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[scifinoir2] Re: Weirdest SciFi Movie/DayWatch

[maidmarian_thepoet]

Well, "Daywatch" finally made it to the top of my Netflix queue.  I've
been home sick, so I had time to watch it.  I loved it.  I love the
imagery of this movie--slightly off kilter from western movies because
it was not designed by European or Western minds.  Nevertheless, there
are some scenes that would wow the 12-18 male audience that American
action movies are constantly trying to impress.

In the commentary, the Russian director mentions that there was supposed
to be a third movie--and more international.  Instead, they finished the
current story line in "DayWatch".  The entire production remained
Russian.  They convinced the SFX houses to work together in order to
prove what Russian animation/SFX could do (instead of farming the work
out internationally).   And they did good!

As an american, I probably don't get all of the references , but it was
enjoyable.  I notice that Amazon mentions that the 3 book series has
become 4.  Much as I loved this, I hope that the writer doesn't get
pigeon-holed.

(marian)



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The first sequel, Daywatch, is done and was released earlier this
> year. A subtitled version is supposed to be on the way soon.
>
> The second sequel, Duskwatch, is in the production phase. It was
> supposed to be filmed in English but I don't know if that is still
> the case.
>

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[KeithBJohnson]

Agreed, it's not what i'm looking for. I'm looking for a movie where the 
romance with a Sister is the focus--comedy or drama. I guess, though, we have 
stuff like "Love Jones", "Two Can Play that Game", "Brown Sugar", etc., there's 
no dearth of Black romance at the movies. Though I would like to see a dramatic 
romance at the big screen soonLooking at the American Film Institute's list 
of the "Top Passionate 100 Films" of all time, i find only two on the list with 
Blacks: Porgy and Bess, and Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Two out of one 
hundred! And looking at the list of the 400 nominated films, we get a whopping 
three additional: Carmen Jones, Jungle Fever (WTF?), and Mississippi Masala?  
Are these five films really the best of Black-oriented romance we have in the 
last century???  (the answer is "no", of course, which is why lists like the 
AFI's have to be taken with a grain of salt, but still, the point is there...)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I just love that movie. ...and Keith he had a Black wife with a former 
Black mistress. However, I know that does not count as a romantic comedy

Reece Jennings wrote:
>
> How about 'Enemy of the State?'
>
> Maurice Jennings
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> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
> [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:17 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]
>
> So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
> know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> > From: Marva
> >
> >
> >
> > Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> >
> > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> >
> > LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> > friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
> > plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5
> > million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one
> > of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> Sunday.
> >
> > "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is
> > in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of
> > box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> >
> > The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> > Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> > strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give
> > Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> >
> > "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
> > for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals
> > and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> >
> > Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> > million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
> > Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> Happyness."
> >
> > The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
> > Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
> > million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
> > million debut a week earlier.
> >
> > "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90
> > million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just
> > $41 million.
> >
> > On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut
> > record, easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I,
> > Robot" and "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid
> > the $72.6 million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The
> > Return of the King," the previous best December opening.
> >
> > "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman, head
> > of distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star
> > in the world today."
> >
> > Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent
> > Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
> > "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and
> > fighting off the vestiges

RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[Reece Jennings]

Sometimes it works in the animals' favor, though.  I don't put down traps
for the field mice that come inside during the winter...As long as they
stay in the basement out of sight.  I see one once in a while when I
surprise 
them in the middle of the night.  I'm sure my irregular sleeping patterns
confuse 
them.
 
Once a couple of weeks back, I went downstairs, and one of the little
creatures
came down after me, slid past my foot, and scurried into one of the far
reaches
of the basement.  It was funny, because it was like he/she said, 'Scuse
me!', 
and took off.  Tom and Jerry!
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:20 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil



I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to
myself, "That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin,
Bugs Bunny, Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal
thing was very confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive
Mother Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: i
didn't like it when it was a cartoon back in the day, certainly don't want
to watch this new movie.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> 
I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com>
gmail.com 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, following the Dec. 7 release of ``The 
> Golden
> Compass.'' As of Dec. 14, the world's largest media company had $1.7 
> billion
> in box office sales this year, the most among its competitors, 
> according to
> researcher Box Office Mojo LLC.
>
> ``This is the perfect movie for Will Smith. It's sci-fi, yet it's an
> intelligent film,'' Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers, 
> said
> in an interview.
>
> In ``I Am Legend,'' Smith portrays one of the last humans to survive a 
> virus
> that turns people into flesh-eating monsters. Smith works on a cure during
> the day and hides from the demons in a barricaded New York townhouse at
> night, when they hunt.
>
> Exceeds Sales Estimate
>
> Ticket sales for the movie beat the $51.5 million estimate of Burbank,
> California-based Box Office Mojo. As of Dec. 14, ``I Am Legend'' received
> lukewarm response, with 65 positive reviews out of 110 tracked by
> RottenTomatoes.com.
>
> ``Alvin and the Chipmunks,'' based on the 1980s cartoon series, features a
> computer-animated version of the high-pitched singing trio.
>
> The movie received poor reviews, with New York Post's Lou Lumenick 
> writing,
> ``For adults, it's like being hit over the head with a mallet every 10
> seconds for 90 minutes. Two days later, I still had a headache.''
>
> Luckily, children will drive ticket sales, Dergarabedian said. 
> ```Alvin and
> the Chipmunks' will do very, very well,'' he said. ``It's irresistible to
> kids.''
>
> ``The Golden Compass,'' made for about $150 million by Time Warner's New
> Line Cinema, missed the $35.4 million opening weekend estimate of 
> Hollywood
> Stock Exchange.com, where participants bet play money on a film's
> performance. The film tells the story of a young girl who uses a unique
> ability to discern truth 

RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[KeithBJohnson]

true, that's my point and my problem. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Will's wife was Regina King, and in Independence Day, Vivica Fox...
2 very fine Black women...except that these movies aren't really love
stories...

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:22 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

what about "Enemy of the State"?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
How about 'Enemy of the State?' 

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)

-- Original message --
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
aladvantage.com> 

>  Original Message 
> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> From: Marva
> 
> 
> 
> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> 
> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> 
> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of 
> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a 
> plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5 
> million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one 
> of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
Sunday.
> 
> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is 
> in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of 
> box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> 
> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring 
> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a 
> strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give 
> Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> 
> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president 
> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals 
> and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> 
> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6 
> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when 
> Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
Happyness."
> 
> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden 
> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9 
> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8 
> million debut a week earlier.
> 
> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90 
> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just 
> $41 million.
> 
> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut 
> record, easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, 
> Robot" and "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid 
> the $72.6 million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The 
> Return of the King," the previous best December opening.
> 
> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman, head 
> of distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star 
> in the world today."
> 
> Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent 
> Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
> "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and 
> fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the 
> plague into vampire-like creatures.
> 
> Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their 
> second weekends.
> 
> Focus Features' "Atonement" - a tragic romance that led the Globes 
> with seven nominations, including best drama and acting honors for 
> Keira Knightley and James McAvoy - pulled in $1.85 million in 117
theaters.
> That gave "Atonement" a strong 

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[yinka oyekunle]

When I watched Star Trek, I was always under the impression that Kirk was the 
main protagonist (I guess that it helped him doing all the "star logs" & 
"getting the girl... albeit being a green woman or something).  It just seems 
like an odd & I'd say purposefull move to not include Shatner.  To me, it's 
like doing a remake of the old Batman tv show featuring Burt Ward (is that the 
actors name who played Robin) & not featuring Adam West @ all.  Anyone else 
have an idea as to why Shatner was "snubbed"?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit 
in, and why Shatner wasn't needed for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in 
"Generations", so he's technically dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is 
to be featured? (I've always assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, 
given the possibilities of the Nexus)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
> Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
> upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
> series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> 
> Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
> hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
> before the events of the original series. 
> 
> "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
> just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
> interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
> that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
> research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
> original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
> felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
> for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
> to go back to what happened before it." 
> 
> The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
> iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
> must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
> that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
> and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
> other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
> shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
> do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
> and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
> I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
> blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
> what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
> a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> 
> Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
> (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
> was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move. 
> 
> "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
> the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
> their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
> franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
> that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
> some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
> they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
> more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
> who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
> today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or 
> know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on 
> Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

[Martin]

Seriously, those are some great titles.

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Most of 
my books are in bins in my attic.  I'll have to go through
 them...maybe buy
 a bookcase.  If I had a wife...hmmm...nawww, I'll get one myself.  A
 bookcase I mean!
 Here are the ones I could find in my sunporch...(My what)
  
 Black Military Books...
  
 Blood for Dignity -- David P. Colley
 Benjamin O. Davis, an autiobiography
 The Forgotten Heroes -- Clinton Cox...about the Buffalo Soldiers
 The Right to Fight -- Gerald Astor
 Brothers In Arms -- Kareem Abdul Jabbar...about the 761st Tank Battallion
 Bloods -- Wallace Terry
 The Road to Victory -- David P. Colley...about the Red Ball Express
  
 Octavia Butler's Books
  
 TheTrilogy -- Dawn, Imago, and Adulthood Rites
 Fledgling
 Parable of the Sower
 Parable of the Talents
 Wild Seed
 Mind of my Mind
 BloodChild
  
 Hope this helps!
  
 Oh...here are a few that don't fall into those 2 categories...
  
 And Then We Heard The Thunder -- John Oliver Killens...fiction about Black
 Military in WWII, their experiences in the deep South, and the culmination
 of
 events in Australia.  Great story!
  
 The Sista Network -- Tuesday Cooper...Tuesday is a sister from the Bronx.
 She was
 a professor of mine at Springfield (MA) College School of Human Services.
 She has
 a double Masters and a Juris Doctorate.  She's a completely down to earth
 maniacal
 lady who wrote a 'how to' book for Black Women trying to navigate the 'Halls
 of Ivy'.
  
 Speak so you can Speak Again -- Lucy Ann Hurston...A book about her aunt,
 Zora Neale
 Hurston.  Lucy is a great friend of mine, and the book has been so well
 received that she
 is constantly on tour.
  
 Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria -- Beverly
 Daniel Tatum, Ph. D.
 Psycho-Cybernetics
 The Bond -- The Three Doctors...How three Black doctors grew up in Newark,
 NJ without their
 fathers, became friends, supported each other through to becoming doctors.
 How they found, 
 researched, and reconciled with their fathers.
  
 Snot Bubbles -- Helma Clark...a football primer for women/wives...
  
 Ain't Understanding Mellow -- Michele Davis...I met Michele on a listserv,
 Boston Blacks Online.
 We became friends.  She lives in Chicago not far from my daughter and
 grandchildren, and she
 wrote her first book while on the listserv.  Excellent story about a single
 mom growing up and
 raising 4 children.
  
 Simon Says -- Colleen Dixon...another sister I met online who wrote a novel.
 Great story!
  
  
  Maurice Jennings
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 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
  
  
  
  
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:25 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread
 
 I have got to get a copy of your reading list if I can, sir...
 
 Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
 wrote: I've read all of the ones I've bought. I have all of Octavia Butler's
 books, 
 and as many Black Military History books as I could find...
 
 Maurice Jennings
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  mesavers.com/> 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread
 
 rave, back when I could afford the expense, I was the same way regardign
 books. I could blow hundreds a month at bookstores, and still have yet to
 get near half the stack I've acquired.
 
 ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote: In my
 lifetime, I have purchased scores more books than I will ever
 read. Sometimes I purchase books simply because I love the idea of
 the book. Other times I have purchased books because of their portent
 (for instance, I own but have never read "Roots"). When "Waiting to
 Exhale," or whatever black women were reading was hot, I would own a 
 "lending" copy and reap the benefits thereof. Lastly, I simply take
 comfort in always something on hand, waiting to be read.
 
 ~rave!
 
 www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/sunday/art/chi-1209_p
 ressplaydec09,2,7668874.story
 chicagotribune.com
 LITERATURE
 Deriving pleasure from books read, and unread
 
 By Patrick T

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

[Martin]

Reece, you sure about that? I can find you a lot of fine young ladies, if you 
don't mind my cast-offs...

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Most of 
my books are in bins in my attic.  I'll have to go through
 them...maybe buy
 a bookcase.  If I had a wife...hmmm...nawww, I'll get one myself.  A
 bookcase I mean!
 Here are the ones I could find in my sunporch...(My what)
  
 Black Military Books...
  
 Blood for Dignity -- David P. Colley
 Benjamin O. Davis, an autiobiography
 The Forgotten Heroes -- Clinton Cox...about the Buffalo Soldiers
 The Right to Fight -- Gerald Astor
 Brothers In Arms -- Kareem Abdul Jabbar...about the 761st Tank Battallion
 Bloods -- Wallace Terry
 The Road to Victory -- David P. Colley...about the Red Ball Express
  
 Octavia Butler's Books
  
 TheTrilogy -- Dawn, Imago, and Adulthood Rites
 Fledgling
 Parable of the Sower
 Parable of the Talents
 Wild Seed
 Mind of my Mind
 BloodChild
  
 Hope this helps!
  
 Oh...here are a few that don't fall into those 2 categories...
  
 And Then We Heard The Thunder -- John Oliver Killens...fiction about Black
 Military in WWII, their experiences in the deep South, and the culmination
 of
 events in Australia.  Great story!
  
 The Sista Network -- Tuesday Cooper...Tuesday is a sister from the Bronx.
 She was
 a professor of mine at Springfield (MA) College School of Human Services.
 She has
 a double Masters and a Juris Doctorate.  She's a completely down to earth
 maniacal
 lady who wrote a 'how to' book for Black Women trying to navigate the 'Halls
 of Ivy'.
  
 Speak so you can Speak Again -- Lucy Ann Hurston...A book about her aunt,
 Zora Neale
 Hurston.  Lucy is a great friend of mine, and the book has been so well
 received that she
 is constantly on tour.
  
 Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria -- Beverly
 Daniel Tatum, Ph. D.
 Psycho-Cybernetics
 The Bond -- The Three Doctors...How three Black doctors grew up in Newark,
 NJ without their
 fathers, became friends, supported each other through to becoming doctors.
 How they found, 
 researched, and reconciled with their fathers.
  
 Snot Bubbles -- Helma Clark...a football primer for women/wives...
  
 Ain't Understanding Mellow -- Michele Davis...I met Michele on a listserv,
 Boston Blacks Online.
 We became friends.  She lives in Chicago not far from my daughter and
 grandchildren, and she
 wrote her first book while on the listserv.  Excellent story about a single
 mom growing up and
 raising 4 children.
  
 Simon Says -- Colleen Dixon...another sister I met online who wrote a novel.
 Great story!
  
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
  
  
  
  
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:25 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread
 
 I have got to get a copy of your reading list if I can, sir...
 
 Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
 wrote: I've read all of the ones I've bought. I have all of Octavia Butler's
 books, 
 and as many Black Military History books as I could find...
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
  mesavers.com
  mesavers.com/> 
 
 _ 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread
 
 rave, back when I could afford the expense, I was the same way regardign
 books. I could blow hundreds a month at bookstores, and still have yet to
 get near half the stack I've acquired.
 
 ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote: In my
 lifetime, I have purchased scores more books than I will ever
 read. Sometimes I purchase books simply because I love the idea of
 the book. Other times I have purchased books because of their portent
 (for instance, I own but have never read "Roots"). When "Waiting to
 Exhale," or whatever black women were reading was hot, I would own a 
 "lending" copy and reap the benefits thereof. Lastly, I simply take
 comfort in always something on hand, waiting to be read.
 
 ~rave!
 
 www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/sunday/art/chi-1209_p
 ressplaydec09,2,7668874.story
 chicagotribune.com
 LITERAT

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[KeithBJohnson]

love Spock, but i'm curious how Kirk will fit in, and why Shatner wasn't needed 
for much? Is it because they "killed' Kirk in "Generations", so he's 
technically dead during the time when Nimoy's Spock is to be featured? (I've 
always assumed that Kirk isn't really, permanently dead, given the 
possibilities of the Nexus)


-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Writer Reveals Trek Details 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451 
> Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
> Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
> upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
> series star Leonard Nimoy. 
> 
> Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
> hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
> before the events of the original series. 
> 
> "There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
> just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
> interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
> that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
> research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
> [classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
> original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
> felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
> for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
> to go back to what happened before it." 
> 
> The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
> iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
> must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
> that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
> and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
> other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
> shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
> do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
> and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
> I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
> blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
> what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
> a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!" 
> 
> Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
> (which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
> was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move. 
> 
> "The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
> the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
> their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
> franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
> that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
> some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
> they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
> more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
> who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
> today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or 
> know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on 
> Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale

[KeithBJohnson]

yes indeed. and Jeffrey Combs as Wayun was great. I know at least a couple of 
his clones were killed by the one Founder who spoke for the race, due to 
failures in his performance. And Worf killed the last clone toward the end of 
the series.

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From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I liked them as villains because on their behalf they had two villians 
by proxy - the Jem hadar (sp) and the clones ( can't remember them

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> My vote would be for the Dominion, led by the Changelings on Deep 
> Space Nine. Here were a people with a tragic past (as they tell it) of 
> millennia of abuse at the hands of "Solids", who finally decided to 
> control others before they could be hurt. As a formerly oppressed 
> people, they brought an unending pain to their new world view, and 
> nothing was off limits: destroying whole planets or races, genetically 
> engineering soldier and servant races, killing off clones (like Wayun 
> (sp?)) and bringing new ones out of storage like a new set of clothes. 
> Remember when they decided on their Scorched Earth policy on the 
> Cardassian home world as punishment for the people rising up against 
> them?
>
> The Changelings were frightening in their self-assured, calculating 
> arrogance. heck, they put the arrogance of the Romulans to shame!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> I like Hathor and Nerte. The new replicators are interesting
>
> RaAyyMOND C wrote:
> >
> > Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald.
> >
> > Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1.
> >
> > Fav male villian: Apophis
> >
> > Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[Martin]

Based alone on Freeman's talking with Clarke, I like the odds on this becoming 
reality, and look forward to it. I need to reread the book.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We 
were just talking about this last week...
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413
 
Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of producing 
and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF novel 
Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.

"That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while promoting 
his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."

Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group of 
human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an alien 
spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the commander of 
the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous with 
the alien craft.

"The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer space," 
Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent creatures 
is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you think 
about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures--and 
I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and if 
they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"

Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a decade, 
but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not only as 
"announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the Web 
site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, which 
classifies it as "in development."

"We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman said. "As 
a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with him. 
I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from them. 
'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"

Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a very 
large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got to 
design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and because 
it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many liberties." 
--Ian Spelling


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Author of nasty letters from Santa sought

[Martin]

Folks, I refer you all back to the thread on evolution...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's post office and police are trying to track 
down a "rogue elf" who wrote obscene letters to children on behalf of 
Santa Claus, a newspaper reported on Friday.

The Ottawa Citizen said at least 10 nasty letters had been delivered to 
little girls and boys in Ottawa who wrote to Santa this year care of the 
North Pole, which has a special H0H 0H0 Canadian postal code. Return 
letters from Santa are in fact written by an 11,000-strong army of 
Canada Post employees and volunteers.

"We firmly believe there is just one rogue elf out there," a Canada Post 
spokeswoman told the paper.

Canada Post's popular "Write to Santa" program -- which last year 
delivered more than a million letters to children in Canada and around 
the world -- has been shut down in Ottawa until the offender is caught.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071214/od_nm/badsanta1_dc_1


 
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[scifinoir2] Author of nasty letters from Santa sought

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

  OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's post office and police are trying to track 
down a "rogue elf" who wrote obscene letters to children on behalf of 
Santa Claus, a newspaper reported on Friday.

The Ottawa Citizen said at least 10 nasty letters had been delivered to 
little girls and boys in Ottawa who wrote to Santa this year care of the 
North Pole, which has a special H0H 0H0 Canadian postal code. Return 
letters from Santa are in fact written by an 11,000-strong army of 
Canada Post employees and volunteers.

"We firmly believe there is just one rogue elf out there," a Canada Post 
spokeswoman told the paper.

Canada Post's popular "Write to Santa" program -- which last year 
delivered more than a million letters to children in Canada and around 
the world -- has been shut down in Ottawa until the offender is caught.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071214/od_nm/badsanta1_dc_1


 
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RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Reece Jennings]

I do, too!  But it was excellent SF!  Not much 'F', though!
 
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:06 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]



I just love that movie. ...and Keith he had a Black wife with a former 
Black mistress. However, I know that does not count as a romantic comedy

Reece Jennings wrote:
>
> How about 'Enemy of the State?'
>
> Maurice Jennings
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> Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net

> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]
>
> So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
> know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
aladvantage.com 
> >
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> > From: Marva
> >
> >
> >
> > Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> >
> > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> >
> > LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of
> > friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a
> > plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5
> > million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one
> > of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
> Sunday.
> >
> > "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is
> > in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of
> > box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> >
> > The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring
> > Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a
> > strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give
> > Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> >
> > "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president
> > for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals
> > and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> >
> > Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6
> > million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when
> > Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
> Happyness."
> >
> > The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden
> > Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9
> > million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8
> > million debut a week earlier.
> >
> > "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90
> > million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just
> > $41 million.
> >
> > On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut
> > record, easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I,
> > Robot" and "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid
> > the $72.6 million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The
> > Return of the King," the previous best December opening.
> >
> > "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman, head
> > of distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star
> > in the world today."
> >
> > Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent
> > Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
> > "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and
> > fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the
> > plague into vampire-like creatures.
> >
> > Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their
> > second weekends.
> >
> > Focus Fe

RE: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[Reece Jennings]

Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations)
 
LOLLOLLOL!!!
 
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I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to
myself, "That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin,
Bugs Bunny, Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal
thing was very confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive
Mother Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: i
didn't like it when it was a cartoon back in the day, certainly don't want
to watch this new movie.

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I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com>
gmail.com 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, following the Dec. 7 release of ``The 
> Golden
> Compass.'' As of Dec. 14, the world's largest media company had $1.7 
> billion
> in box office sales this year, the most among its competitors, 
> according to
> researcher Box Office Mojo LLC.
>
> ``This is the perfect movie for Will Smith. It's sci-fi, yet it's an
> intelligent film,'' Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers, 
> said
> in an interview.
>
> In ``I Am Legend,'' Smith portrays one of the last humans to survive a 
> virus
> that turns people into flesh-eating monsters. Smith works on a cure during
> the day and hides from the demons in a barricaded New York townhouse at
> night, when they hunt.
>
> Exceeds Sales Estimate
>
> Ticket sales for the movie beat the $51.5 million estimate of Burbank,
> California-based Box Office Mojo. As of Dec. 14, ``I Am Legend'' received
> lukewarm response, with 65 positive reviews out of 110 tracked by
> RottenTomatoes.com.
>
> ``Alvin and the Chipmunks,'' based on the 1980s cartoon series, features a
> computer-animated version of the high-pitched singing trio.
>
> The movie received poor reviews, with New York Post's Lou Lumenick 
> writing,
> ``For adults, it's like being hit over the head with a mallet every 10
> seconds for 90 minutes. Two days later, I still had a headache.''
>
> Luckily, children will drive ticket sales, Dergarabedian said. 
> ```Alvin and
> the Chipmunks' will do very, very well,'' he said. ``It's irresistible to
> kids.''
>
> ``The Golden Compass,'' made for about $150 million by Time Warner's New
> Line Cinema, missed the $35.4 million opening weekend estimate of 
> Hollywood
> Stock Exchange.com, where participants bet play money on a film's
> performance. The film tells the story of a young girl who uses a unique
> ability to discern truth in a cosmic battle over free will.
>
> ``It didn't have that built-in fun factor that a `Narnia' or a `Lord 
> of the
> Rings' has,'' Dergarabedian said. ``Something about that movie didn't 
> compel
> audiences to go out in large numbers.''
>
> `Enchanted'
>
> ``Enchanted'' stars Amy Adams as a princess banished from her fantasy 
> world
> to modern New York. The film has taken in $92.3 million since its release
> Nov. 21. Susan Sarandon co-stars as the evil queen who engineers her
> departure. ``No Country for Old Men,''

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Deriving Pleasure from Books read, and unread

[Reece Jennings]

Most of my books are in bins in my attic.  I'll have to go through
them...maybe buy
a bookcase.  If I had a wife...hmmm...nawww, I'll get one myself.  A
bookcase I mean!
Here are the ones I could find in my sunporch...(My what)
 
Black Military Books...
 
Blood for Dignity -- David P. Colley
Benjamin O. Davis, an autiobiography
The Forgotten Heroes -- Clinton Cox...about the Buffalo Soldiers
The Right to Fight -- Gerald Astor
Brothers In Arms -- Kareem Abdul Jabbar...about the 761st Tank Battallion
Bloods -- Wallace Terry
The Road to Victory -- David P. Colley...about the Red Ball Express
 
Octavia Butler's Books
 
TheTrilogy -- Dawn, Imago, and Adulthood Rites
Fledgling
Parable of the Sower
Parable of the Talents
Wild Seed
Mind of my Mind
BloodChild
 
Hope this helps!
 
Oh...here are a few that don't fall into those 2 categories...
 
And Then We Heard The Thunder -- John Oliver Killens...fiction about Black
Military in WWII, their experiences in the deep South, and the culmination
of
events in Australia.  Great story!
 
The Sista Network -- Tuesday Cooper...Tuesday is a sister from the Bronx.
She was
a professor of mine at Springfield (MA) College School of Human Services.
She has
a double Masters and a Juris Doctorate.  She's a completely down to earth
maniacal
lady who wrote a 'how to' book for Black Women trying to navigate the 'Halls
of Ivy'.
 
Speak so you can Speak Again -- Lucy Ann Hurston...A book about her aunt,
Zora Neale
Hurston.  Lucy is a great friend of mine, and the book has been so well
received that she
is constantly on tour.
 
Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria -- Beverly
Daniel Tatum, Ph. D.
Psycho-Cybernetics
The Bond -- The Three Doctors...How three Black doctors grew up in Newark,
NJ without their
fathers, became friends, supported each other through to becoming doctors.
How they found, 
researched, and reconciled with their fathers.
 
Snot Bubbles -- Helma Clark...a football primer for women/wives...
 
Ain't Understanding Mellow -- Michele Davis...I met Michele on a listserv,
Boston Blacks Online.
We became friends.  She lives in Chicago not far from my daughter and
grandchildren, and she
wrote her first book while on the listserv.  Excellent story about a single
mom growing up and
raising 4 children.
 
Simon Says -- Colleen Dixon...another sister I met online who wrote a novel.
Great story!
 
 
 Maurice Jennings
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I have got to get a copy of your reading list if I can, sir...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I've read all of the ones I've bought. I have all of Octavia Butler's
books, 
and as many Black Military History books as I could find...

Maurice Jennings
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rave, back when I could afford the expense, I was the same way regardign
books. I could blow hundreds a month at bookstores, and still have yet to
get near half the stack I've acquired.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote: In my
lifetime, I have purchased scores more books than I will ever
read. Sometimes I purchase books simply because I love the idea of
the book. Other times I have purchased books because of their portent
(for instance, I own but have never read "Roots"). When "Waiting to
Exhale," or whatever black women were reading was hot, I would own a 
"lending" copy and reap the benefits thereof. Lastly, I simply take
comfort in always something on hand, waiting to be read.

~rave!

www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/sunday/art/chi-1209_p
ressplaydec09,2,7668874.story
chicagotribune.com
LITERATURE
Deriving pleasure from books read, and unread

By Patrick T. Reardon

Tribune staff reporter

December 9, 2007
Click here to find out more!

Readers know, and non-readers just don't get it. I'm talking about the
stacks of unread books that can be found scattered, like small
shrines, around the home of a

[scifinoir2] Morgan Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

We were just talking about this last week...
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46413

Freeman's Rama Close To Reality?

Morgan Freeman told SCI FI Wire that his long-held dream of producing 
and starring in a big-screen adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's SF novel 
Rendezvous With Rama is closer than ever to becoming a reality.

"That is going to happen," Freeman said in an interview while promoting 
his latest film, The Bucket List. "Thank heaven, that is going to 
happen. We're looking for that to start in the next year."

Rendezvous with Rama, which was published in 1972, follows a group of 
human explorers who intercept and try to unlock the secrets of an alien 
spaceship that has approached Earth. Freeman would play the commander of 
the Endeavor, the deep-space maintenance ship used to rendezvous with 
the alien craft.

"The story itself is the idea that we can be visited from outer space," 
Freeman said. "The idea that we're the only living intelligent creatures 
is ... you can't really believe that. Well, you can, but if you think 
about it for a while, what if there are other intelligent creatures--and 
I firmly believe there are--what does that tell us? We're going to 
imagine that they're going to have to look something like us, and if 
they don't look like us what does that tell us about God?"

Freeman has had Rendezvous With Rama on his radar for nearly a decade, 
but this is the closest it's been to happening. It's listed not only as 
"announced" on the Internet Movie Database, but it's also on the Web 
site of Freeman's production company, Revelations Entertainment, which 
classifies it as "in development."

"We have been in close contact with Arthur C. Clarke," Freeman said. "As 
a matter of fact, I went to Sri Lanka just to have a sit-down with him. 
I'm very excited about this. When the people at [NASA's Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory] learned that we had this project we got calls from them. 
'Any help you need, any help at all. ... '"

Freeman added: "So we've been trying to develop a script. It's a very 
large project. You have got to develop the script, and you have got to 
design spaceships. And because Arthur C. Clarke wrote it, and because 
it's so much real science involved, we can't take too many liberties." 
--Ian Spelling


 
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[scifinoir2] Writer Reveals Trek Details

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Writer Reveals Trek Details
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=46451
Roberto Orci, co-writer of director J.J. Abram's highly anticipated Star 
Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that the tightly guarded story for the 
upcoming franchise reboot depends heavily on the appearance of original 
series star Leonard Nimoy.

Orci (Transformers) added that the movie will explore Trek history that 
hasn't been mined before and confirmed that the story will take place 
before the events of the original series.

"There were many, many elements of the story that we had talked about 
just theoretically if ever Star Trek were to come back," Orci said in an 
interview in November. "There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and 
that was a blessing. Normally you don't have that much investment and 
research for a project you get hired to do. If you are a fan of 
[classic] Star Trek, there is a lot of unexplored history. With the 
original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It 
felt like it has been The Next Generation and The Next, Next Generation 
for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and 
to go back to what happened before it."

The crux of the screenplay involves the appearance of Nimoy in his 
iconic role as Spock. "I think a lot of people were speculating that we 
must have had multiple ideas [for the script]," Orci said. "The truth is 
that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, 
and it was essential that we had Nimoy. Frankly, I didn't understand any 
other way to do it. We didn't have a Plan B. I think that would have 
shown that we didn't have a true, singular vision of what we wanted to 
do, so it was essential for us to get Nimoy. It was a gigantic gamble, 
and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but 
I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the 
blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of 
what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was 
a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be!"

Orci, who previously tackled a beloved franchise with Transformers 
(which he co-wrote with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek 
was even harder because of the dedicated fan base watching every move.

"The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that 
the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "They have 
their own ideas about what should be done and what is right for the 
franchise. So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure 
that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are 
some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that 
they be satisfied with anything that has the name Star Trek on it. But, 
more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people 
who don't know Star Trek at all to this universe and to connect it to 
today. ... The goal of Star Trek ... is that if you don't like sci-fi or 
know Star Trek, this will bring you into the world." Star Trek opens on 
Christmas Day 2008. --Tara DiLullo Bennett  


 
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[scifinoir2] Extrasolar planets may be habitable

[Amy Harlib]

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Cool science news.


> URL to an article in Science Daily News
> _http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071213101403.htm_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071213101403.htm)
>
> Planets orbiting Gliese 581 may be habitable
>
> First few paragraph
> "European team of astronomers announced the discovery of two possibly
> habitable Earth-like planets. Two new detailed studies of this system 
> confirm  that
> one of the planets might indeed be located within the habitable zone 
> around
> the star Gliese 581.
>
> 
> See also:
> _Space &  Time_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/)
>*   _Extrasolar Planets_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/extrasolar_planets/)
>*   _Kuiper  Belt_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/kuiper_belt/)
>*   _Stars_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/stars/)
>*   _Astronomy_ 
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/astronomy/)
>
>*   _Pluto_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/pluto/)
>*   _Jupiter_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/space_time/jupiter/)
> _Reference_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/)
>*   _Brown dwarf_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/b/brown_dwarf.htm)
>*   _Gas giant_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/g/gas_giant.htm)
>*   _Equatorial  bulge_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/e/equatorial_bulge.htm)
>*   _Extrasolar  planet_
> (http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/e/extrasolar_planet.htm)
>
> More than 10 years after the discovery of the first extrasolar planet,
> astronomers have now discovered more than 250 of these planets. Until a 
> few  years
> ago, most of the newly discovered exoplanets were Jupiter-mass, probably
> gaseous, planets. Recently, astronomers have announced the discovery of 
> several
> planets that are potentially much smaller, with a minimum mass lower than 
> 10
> Earth masses, what are now called super-Earths [1].
> In April, a European team announced in Astronomy & Astrophysics the
> discovery of two new planets orbiting the M star Gliese 581 (a red dwarf), 
> with
> masses of at least 5 and 8 Earth masses. Given their distance to their 
> parent
> star, these new planets (now known as Gliese 581c and Gliese 581d) were 
> the  first
> ever possible candidates for habitable planets.
> Contrary to Jupiter-like giant planets that are mainly gaseous, 
> terrestrial
> planets are expected to be extremely diverse: some will be dry and 
> airless,
> while others will have much more water and gases than the Earth. Only the 
> next
> generation of telescopes will allow us to tell what these new worlds and
> their  atmospheres are made of and to search for possible indications of 
> life on
> these  planets. However, theoretical investigations are possible today and 
> can
> be a  great help in identifying targets for these future observations.
> In this framework, Astronomy & Astrophysics now publishes two theoretical
> studies of the Gliese 581 planetary system. Two international teams, one 
> led by
> Franck Selsis [2] and the other by Werner von Bloh [3], investigate the
> possible  habitability of these two super-Earths from two different points 
> of view.
> To do  so, they estimate the boundaries of the habitable zone around 
> Gliese
> 581, that  is, how close and how far from this star liquid water can exist 
> on
> the surface  of a planet. "
>
> Chris
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd:Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")]

[Reece Jennings]

Will's wife was Regina King, and in Independence Day, Vivica Fox...
2 very fine Black women...except that these movies aren't really love
stories...
 
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what about "Enemy of the State"?

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How about 'Enemy of the State?' 

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So, *now* can Smith finally do a love story with a Black woman? :( (You
know me Tracey: you knew i had to ask!)

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>  Original Message 
> Subject: [NPHC] Best Ever December Opening ("I Am Legend")
> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:18:08 -0500
> From: Marva
> 
> 
> 
> Smith's 'Legend' grows with $76.5M debut
> 
> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer 51 minutes ago
> 
> LOS ANGELES - For the last man on Earth, Will Smith sure has a lot of 
> friends. The Warner Bros. tale "I Am Legend," starring Smith as a 
> plague survivor who may be the last living human, debuted with $76.5 
> million, the biggest December opening ever and a personal best for one 
> of Hollywood's top box-office champs, according to studio estimates
Sunday.
> 
> "It's no wonder Will Smith feels so lonely. Everyone else on Earth is 
> in the movie theater," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of 
> box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
> 
> The 20th Century Fox family flick "Alvin and the Chipmunks," starring 
> Jason Lee in a big-screen take on the cartoon critters, opened a 
> strong No. 2 with $45 million. The two films combined to give 
> Hollywood a year-end surge after a drowsy fall season.
> 
> "Forty-five million acorns," said Chris Aronson, senior vice president 
> for distribution at 20th Century Fox. "Chipmunks are diurnal animals 
> and they do hibernate, but not right now."
> 
> Overall business soared, with the top 12 movies taking in $153.6 
> million, up 39 percent from the same weekend a year earlier, when 
> Smith also was No. 1 with a $26.5 million debut for "The Pursuit of
Happyness."
> 
> The previous No. 1 movie, New Line Cinema's fantasy "The Golden 
> Compass," nose-dived in its second weekend, coming in third with $9 
> million, down a dismal 65 percent from its less-than-expected $25.8 
> million debut a week earlier.
> 
> "The Golden Compass," which cost $180 million to produce, has done $90 
> million so far overseas but has proven a dud domestically with just 
> $41 million.
> 
> On the other hand, "I Am Legend" smashed Smith's personal debut 
> record, easily exceeding the $52.1 million opening weekends of "I, 
> Robot" and "Men in Black II," his previous bests. "I Am Legend" outdid 
> the $72.6 million premiere of 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The 
> Return of the King," the previous best December opening.
> 
> "It's nice to be in the Will Smith business," said Dan Fellman, head 
> of distribution for Warner Bros. "He is just the No. 1 box-office star 
> in the world today."
> 
> Based on the Richard Matheson novel filmed twice before as Vincent 
> Price's "The Last Man on Earth" and Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man,"
> "I Am Legend" casts Smith as a scientist trying to find a cure and 
> fighting off the vestiges of humanity, people transformed by the 
> plague into vampire-like creatures.
> 
> Two Golden Globe nominees just hitting theaters did well in their 
> second weekends.
> 
> Focus Features' "Atonement" - a tragic romance that led the Globes 
> with seven nominations, including best drama and acting honors for 
> Keira Knightley and James McAvoy - pulled in $1.85 million in 117
theaters.
> That gave "Atonement" a strong average of $15,835 a theater, compared 
> to
> $21,224 in 3,606 cinemas for "I Am Legend." 
> 
> Fox Searchlight's "Juno,

Re: [scifinoir2] Will Smith Rules the Box Office with $77 mil

[Astromancer]

I remember she a real chipmunk on TV for the first time and I said to myself, 
"That don't look like no Alvin...Because of cartoons like Alvin, Bugs Bunny, 
Yogi Bear, Woody Woodpecker (san sexual conotations), The animal thing was very 
confusing for me as a child...To this day, I'll never forgive Mother 
Nature...I'll never meet Yogi (sniff*)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i didn't like it when it was a cartoon back 
in the day, certainly don't want to watch this new movie.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I don't even put the chipmunks on for my daughter, for fear that we will 
have to watch all the time. god forbid that we have to go to the 
theater to see it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Scary that dreck like "Alvin and the Chipmunks" made so much! Love the 
> reviewer's statement, "...it's like being hit over the head with a 
> mallet every ten seconds for 90 minutes"!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Mike Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> Will Smith's `I Am Legend' Opens to $77 Million in Ticket Sales
>
> By Andy Fixmer and Bradley Keoun
>
> Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- ``I Am Legend,'' the science-fiction thriller
> starring Will Smith, opened as the top film this weekend, garnering $76.5
> million at the domestic box office for Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros.
> studio.
>
> New releases ``Alvin and the Chipmunks'' from News Corp.'s Fox opened in
> second place with $45 million, box-office tracker Media By Numbers LLC 
> said
> today in a statement. Time Warner's ``Golden Compass,'' the prior 
> weekend's
> No. 1 movie, dropped to third with $9.03 million in sales, while Walt 
> Disney
> Co.'s ``Enchanted'' fell to fourth from second with $6 million.
>
> Time Warner scored for a second-straight week with a movie debuting at 
> No. 1
> in U.S. and Canadian theaters, following the Dec. 7 release of ``The 
> Golden
> Compass.'' As of Dec. 14, the world's largest media company had $1.7 
> billion
> in box office sales this year, the most among its competitors, 
> according to
> researcher Box Office Mojo LLC.
>
> ``This is the perfect movie for Will Smith. It's sci-fi, yet it's an
> intelligent film,'' Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers, 
> said
> in an interview.
>
> In ``I Am Legend,'' Smith portrays one of the last humans to survive a 
> virus
> that turns people into flesh-eating monsters. Smith works on a cure during
> the day and hides from the demons in a barricaded New York townhouse at
> night, when they hunt.
>
> Exceeds Sales Estimate
>
> Ticket sales for the movie beat the $51.5 million estimate of Burbank,
> California-based Box Office Mojo. As of Dec. 14, ``I Am Legend'' received
> lukewarm response, with 65 positive reviews out of 110 tracked by
> RottenTomatoes.com.
>
> ``Alvin and the Chipmunks,'' based on the 1980s cartoon series, features a
> computer-animated version of the high-pitched singing trio.
>
> The movie received poor reviews, with New York Post's Lou Lumenick 
> writing,
> ``For adults, it's like being hit over the head with a mallet every 10
> seconds for 90 minutes. Two days later, I still had a headache.''
>
> Luckily, children will drive ticket sales, Dergarabedian said. 
> ```Alvin and
> the Chipmunks' will do very, very well,'' he said. ``It's irresistible to
> kids.''
>
> ``The Golden Compass,'' made for about $150 million by Time Warner's New
> Line Cinema, missed the $35.4 million opening weekend estimate of 
> Hollywood
> Stock Exchange.com, where participants bet play money on a film's
> performance. The film tells the story of a young girl who uses a unique
> ability to discern truth in a cosmic battle over free will.
>
> ``It didn't have that built-in fun factor that a `Narnia' or a `Lord 
> of the
> Rings' has,'' Dergarabedian said. ``Something about that movie didn't 
> compel
> audiences to go out in large numbers.''
>
> `Enchanted'
>
> ``Enchanted'' stars Amy Adams as a princess banished from her fantasy 
> world
> to modern New York. The film has taken in $92.3 million since its release
> Nov. 21. Susan Sarandon co-stars as the evil queen who engineers her
> departure. ``No Country for Old Men,'' with $3 million for Disney's 
> Miramax
> studio, ranked fifth.
>
> Rounding out the top 10 were: ``The Perfect Holiday,'' which opened with
> $2.97 million for Yari Film Group; ``Fred Claus,'' from Time Warner's 
> Warner
> Bros., with $2.31 million of sales; Sony Corp.'s ``This Christmas,'' with
> $2.3 million; ``Atonement,'' from NBC Universal's Focus Features, with 
> $1.85
> million, and ``August Rush,'' in its fourth weekend from Warner Bros., at
> $1.79 million.
>
> Among the top 10, ``Atonement,'' starring Keira Knightley, had the biggest
> surge, climbing from the prior weekend's 15th place after garnering seven
> nominations for Golden Globe awards on Dec. 13.
>
> Sales for the top 12 films 

RE: [scifinoir2] Television Question

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Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote: Hey
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I am doing research into cable. It seems like cable is a better deal
than satellite and I have heard some unpleasant stories about
Satellite service. However, I have no real experience with Satellite.

Anyone got any advice, tips, pointers, nightmare stories or pleasant
annecdotes?

Help Me, I'm TV stupid

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