[RE][scifinoir2] On London's Tube, adages squeezed in among the admonitions

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Leave it to the Brits to bring back culture.

Martin (may just mosey on across the Pond for some of that wisdom)





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I find this hilarious and so bizarre. It is like something out of a dystopian 
movie.

~rave!

http://gioquah.notlong.com

chicagotribune.com

SPOTLIGHT PHILOSOPHY IN MOTION

On London's Tube, adages are being squeezed in among the admonitions

Henry Chu, Tribune Newspapers

July 19, 2009

LONDON
Click here to find out more!

-- On a sweltering summer's day, packed in with sweaty passengers, does anyone 
on the London Underground really need reminding that Hell is other people, as 
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote?

Apparently so, according to a quirky new campaign to show that commuting and 
contemplation on the Tube don't have to be mutually exclusive activities.

Drivers and other staffers on the subway system's well-traveled Piccadilly line 
have been given manuals of quotations from famous authors and philosophers that 
they can intone over their crackly intercoms whenever the mood strikes.

Instead of being instructed to have a nice day like their American 
counterparts, passengers in London may now hear gems like, A throne is only a 
bench covered in velvet (said Napoleon Bonaparte, who never had to fight for a 
seat on the Tube) and, There's more to life than increasing its speed (said 
Mohandas Gandhi, who was never stuck on a stalled train while trying to rush to 
a job interview).

The punchy proverbs aren't just food for thought, says Transport for London, 
the body that operates the Underground. They're also art.

The idea of sprinkling people's journeys with pearls of wisdom sprang from the 
mind of Jeremy Deller, an artist who generally avoids taking the Tube but who 
felt it worth trying to enliven the experience of those who do.

Deller despises the incessant admonitions to let passengers off the train 
first and please take your belongings with you.

It's soul-destroying, he said.

Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune




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[RE][scifinoir2] topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Right off the top, Mr Worf, Jumper comes to mind. I saw about half of it 
(through various illicit means), and it's not even close to the book, save for 
the premise of teleportation. And the less I say of Little Anny's performance, 
the better...





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[RE][scifinoir2] article: After Watchmen, what is unfilmable?

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Nothing is unfilmable, given today's technology. The only problem in filming 
is the adaptation, which can (and, all too often, DOES) get away from its 
source material. Sure, it may suck in fans, but those are the folks who aren't 
fans. Ask any Anne Rice fan what they think of anything of hers that's been 
shot to film.





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http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/07/after-watchmen-whats-unfilmable-these-legendary-texts/



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Re: [scifinoir2] William Shatner: Rocket Man

2009-07-21 Thread Mr. Worf
WowThat was just wow

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Re: [scifinoir2] William Shatner: Rocket Man

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
LMNAO!





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There are things you can't unsee. My eyes they burn.

Bosco

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[RE][scifinoir2] William Shatner: Rocket Man

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
I...

am...

KEERO!!





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Re: [scifinoir2] Judi Ann Mason dies at 54; playwright and screenwriter

2009-07-21 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
ACK!  Really sad news.  I'm 54 too - how long will I have?
Got to enjoy life as much as possible which is really hard with this goddamn 
economic crisis going on!
Amy


 She helped blaze a trail for black women writers in Hollywood, starting 
 with 'Good Times' in the 1970s. 'Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit' was 
 among her credits.

 http://uibehai.notlong.com

 From the Los Angeles Times

 Judi Ann Mason dies at 54; playwright and screenwriter

 By Dennis McLellan

 July 16, 2009

 Judi Ann Mason, an award-winning playwright and a film and television 
 writer who launched her TV career on the 1970s sitcom Good Times and 
 later co-wrote the 1993 movie comedy Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit, 
 has died. She was 54.

 Mason died July 8 of a ruptured aorta en route to UCLA Medical Center, 
 said Phyllis Larrymore Kelly, her manager.

 She was a trailblazer for the forward progression of African American 
 writers, film and television writer Tina Andrews told The Times on 
 Wednesday. Most particularly, she became that trailblazer for those 
 African American women writers who came behind her.

 She was certainly front and center as a role model.

 A Louisiana native, Mason was a 19-year-old student at Grambling State 
 University when she saw a flier on the theater department bulletin board 
 announcing the American College Theater Festival's 1975 Norman Lear award 
 for best original comedy.

 The top prize was $2,500.

 I said, 'Boy, I could sure use that money,' so I wrote 'Livin' Fat,' and 
 it won, Mason told the New Orleans Times-Picayune in 1995.

 Mason's winning play -- about a poor black family facing the moral dilemma 
 of whether to keep a large sum of money that had unexpectedly come into 
 its possession -- was produced in New York while she was still in school.

 A few months after graduating in 1977, Mason was in Hollywood writing 
 scripts for Lear's Good Times, a show she once described as comedic 
 filet mignon.

 I never saw Judi Ann Mason without a smile, Lear said in an e-mailed 
 statement released by the Writers Guild of America, West. She brought it 
 to her writing and her writing brought the rest of us to laughter. She was 
 the ultimate upper.

 Mason was born Feb. 2, 1955, in Bossier City, La.

 As a playwright, she wrote more than 25 produced plays, including A Star 
 Ain't Nothin' but a Hole in Heaven, which won the first Lorraine 
 Hansberry Playwriting Award in 1977 for best student-written plays.

 Her play Daughters of the Mock -- a south Louisiana-set story about a 
 mock curse that a Creole grandmother has passed down from generation to 
 generation to protect the family's women from abusive men -- was first 
 produced by the Negro Ensemble Company in New York City in 1978 and 
 reportedly has been performed at women's colleges across the country.

 After writing scripts for Good Times, Mason went on to write for shows 
 including Sanford, and Beverly Hills, 90120 and co-wrote the 1996 
 cable TV movie Sophie  the Moonhanger.

 Among other things, she also was executive story editor for A Different 
 World, executive story editor for I'll Fly Away, and development 
 executive and associate head writer for the NBC soap opera Generations.

 There weren't many black female writers in Hollywood when Mason started 
 in the 1970s, said Andrews, a former actress. Mason, she said, inspired a 
 number of African American women to become screenwriters.

 Andrews, whose credits include writing the award-winning 2000 CBS 
 miniseries Sally Hemings: An American Scandal, is among them.

 She recalled auditioning as an actress for the daytime drama Generations 
 in the late '80s and encountering Mason, whom she had first met in the 
 '70s.

 When I saw her sitting behind that desk as somebody in a very powerful 
 position as now a head writer, I saw what I could be, said Andrews. And 
 when I later called her to congratulate her on this big, wonderful job, 
 she said, 'If you want to write, then write.' She had a very powerful 
 presence. I said, 'You know, I can do that.' And that's what happened.

 As a writer, Andrews said, Mason wrote positive, dignified characters, 
 particularly her black characters. She had strong, realistic dialogue. It 
 sounded like your sister, your aunt, your girlfriend: It was real, and I 
 wanted to write like that. That's why she inspired so many of us.

 Mason is survived by her daughter, Mason Synclaire Williams; her son, 
 Austin Barrett Williams; and her siblings, Viola Mason Johnson, Waletta 
 Cookie Dunn and Willie Gene Mason.

 A memorial service for Mason will be held at 11 a.m. Friday in the Prayer 
 Chapel on the East Campus of the Church on the Way, 14300 Sherman Way, Van 
 Nuys.

 dennis.mclel...@latimes.com



 

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread B. Smith
Wanted falls into this category as well. Except for the names of a couple of 
characters and minor plot element or two it's nothing like the original.

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 Right off the top, Mr Worf, Jumper comes to mind. I saw about half of it 
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 for the premise of teleportation. And the less I say of Little Anny's 
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[scifinoir2] Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-21 Thread B. Smith
Please tell me I'm not the only one watching this. 

The first part was the most pleasing hour and 15 minutes of sci-fi I've watched 
in a long time. I can't say much without getting into spoiler territory but in 
the first hour alone we meet some of Captain Jack's family, recruit new 
members, see the government try to keep a lid on the events with extreme 
pedjudice and get an eerie message from beyond. Wow! 



Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-21 Thread Daryle Lockhart
DVR'ed it. Last night  was Moon party night. No TV. Tonight?  
DEFINITELY watching.


On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:26 PM, B. Smith wrote:


Please tell me I'm not the only one watching this.

The first part was the most pleasing hour and 15 minutes of sci-fi  
I've watched in a long time. I can't say much without getting into  
spoiler territory but in the first hour alone we meet some of  
Captain Jack's family, recruit new members, see the government try  
to keep a lid on the events with extreme pedjudice and get an eerie  
message from beyond. Wow!







[scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread marian_changling
Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.

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[RE][scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Of course I forgot about that one. Had a memory block put in to keep the 
nightmares away...

There's one that's flitting at the periphery of my brain, that, according to 
the lore I've taken in, was shot and then shelved, as it was so heinously bad. 
It'll come to me...





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Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.

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[RE][scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Back in, because I remembered one.

Starship Troopers. From thought-invoking polemic on politics to 
gore-splattered testosterone-fest. :P





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Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.

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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Reece Jennings
I know!!!  I loved the book and how it eschewed sterrotypes!  I don't want
to 
generate any spoilers!
 
And THAT book made me look at how I perceived people in command,
pilots...most
people with any rank.  I was chagrined, to say the least!
 
(Chagrined???  WTF!!!)
 

  _  

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Back in, because I remembered one.

Starship Troopers. From thought-invoking polemic on politics to
gore-splattered testosterone-fest. :P







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Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that what happens is that the production company says this is a good
book, let's buy the rights. They buy the rights then pick a director and a
screenplay writer. The screenplay writer is busy writing his own play or
movie but he needs to eat. So he or she thinks, I will work on this to pay
rent for a few months. So, he gets the book and reads half of it then tries
to fake the rest. Or he will ask someone that he know that read it to give
him bullet points. The writer finishes the script then gives it to the
director who hasn't read the story either and he goes through it and says,
this costs too much, can you have him punch the guy here? etc.

It then goes through 30 more hands and is finally approved. By the time it
is filmed it has been changed another 100 times to where it doesn't look
like the book at all. Then editing, and half assed acting totally changes
the flow of the dialog of the story. By the time we see the movie it is
totally different from the book. The fans and critics think its a bad
adaptation and it sucks. :)

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, marian_changling md_moor...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.

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[scifinoir2] Charges dropped against Henry Louis Gates Jr

2009-07-21 Thread Mr. Worf
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By MELISSA TRUJILLO, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 13 mins ago

BOSTON – Prosecutors dropped a disorderly conduct charge Tuesday against
prominent black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr., who was arrested at his home
near Harvard University after a report of a break-in.

The city of Cambridge issued a statement saying the arrest was regrettable
and unfortunate and police and Gates agreed that dropping the charge was a
just resolution.

This incident should not be viewed as one that demeans the character and
reputation of professor Gates or the character of the Cambridge Police
Department, the statement said.

Supporters say Gates — the director of Harvard's W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for
African and African American Research — was the victim of racial profiling.

Officers responded to the home Gates rents from Harvard after a woman
reported seeing two black males with backpacks on the porch, with one
wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry,
according to a police report.

Gates' lawyer, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, said the professor
had returned from a trip overseas with a driver, found his front-door jammed
and had to force it open. He was already inside, calling the company that
manages the property, when police arrived.

Police said the 58-year-old Gates was arrested after he yelled at an
officer, accused him of racial bias and refused to calm down after the
officer demanded Gates show him identification to prove he lived in the
home.

Ogletree said Gates showed his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with
his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the
officer, who refused. He followed the officer as he left his house onto his
front porch, where he was arrested.

Gates declined immediate comment Tuesday, and Ogletree did not immediately
return a request to comment on the charge being dropped.

Gates joined the Harvard faculty in 1991 and holds one of 20 prestigious
university professors positions at the school. He also was host

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Baxter
In other words, the too many cooks theory is proven valid again...





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I think that what happens is that the production company says this is a good
book, let's buy the rights. They buy the rights then pick a director and a
screenplay writer. The screenplay writer is busy writing his own play or
movie but he needs to eat. So he or she thinks, I will work on this to pay
rent for a few months. So, he gets the book and reads half of it then tries
to fake the rest. Or he will ask someone that he know that read it to give
him bullet points. The writer finishes the script then gives it to the
director who hasn't read the story either and he goes through it and says,
this costs too much, can you have him punch the guy here? etc.

It then goes through 30 more hands and is finally approved. By the time it
is filmed it has been changed another 100 times to where it doesn't look
like the book at all. Then editing, and half assed acting totally changes
the flow of the dialog of the story. By the time we see the movie it is
totally different from the book. The fans and critics think its a bad
adaptation and it sucks. :)

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, marian_changling wrote:

 Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf  wrote:
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Yep. I would agree with that.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote:

 In other words, the too many cooks theory is proven valid again...





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 I think that what happens is that the production company says this is a
 good
 book, let's buy the rights. They buy the rights then pick a director and a
 screenplay writer. The screenplay writer is busy writing his own play or
 movie but he needs to eat. So he or she thinks, I will work on this to pay
 rent for a few months. So, he gets the book and reads half of it then tries
 to fake the rest. Or he will ask someone that he know that read it to give
 him bullet points. The writer finishes the script then gives it to the
 director who hasn't read the story either and he goes through it and says,
 this costs too much, can you have him punch the guy here? etc.

 It then goes through 30 more hands and is finally approved. By the time it
 is filmed it has been changed another 100 times to where it doesn't look
 like the book at all. Then editing, and half assed acting totally changes
 the flow of the dialog of the story. By the time we see the movie it is
 totally different from the book. The fans and critics think its a bad
 adaptation and it sucks. :)

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM, marian_changling wrote:

  Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Based on the commercials, if you see that every kid in the world is being
used as a conduit by aliens. Wouldn't you after you changed your underwear
go and buy a gun or five?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com
 wrote:



 DVR'ed it. Last night  was Moon party night. No TV. Tonight? DEFINITELY
 watching.
 On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:26 PM, B. Smith wrote:



 Please tell me I'm not the only one watching this.

 The first part was the most pleasing hour and 15 minutes of sci-fi I've
 watched in a long time. I can't say much without getting into spoiler
 territory but in the first hour alone we meet some of Captain Jack's family,
 recruit new members, see the government try to keep a lid on the events with
 extreme pedjudice and get an eerie message from beyond. Wow!




 




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