Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
I think that there is a large part of the audience that doesn't look beyond the cgi. I think that they are trained to do that in this country. (The monster truck, indy500, wrestling set) Outside of that we have everyone else that doesn't mind a nice explosion but want a plot to tie the explosions together. The problem is that there just havent been enough films to really teach american audiences how to watch a film with a plot. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote: *That is not a bad idea, but this generation is more interested in computer graphics then a real good story line.* *--Lavender* *From:* Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:40 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Whenever H'Wood remakes something, some moe-ronic person will say that it's being done for this/the next generation to appreciate. Why not sit the generation in question down and show them the *original*? Allow them to appreciate *it*? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' *Date : *Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:05:07 -0700 *From : *Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *To : *scifino...@yahoogroups.com You think that is bad? They are starting to make fairy tales over now. First there is Alice in Wonderland, and they just announced that DiCaprio is making Little red riding hood. Hmm I wonder which will be next? Pinocchio or the three little pigs? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: i just don't see the point of remaking the movie, no matter who's in the lead. Lord I wish H'wood could just leave some properties alone! - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:46:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' http://www.movieline.com/2009/08/were-drawing-closer-to-a-will-smithzoe-saldana-harvey.php Predictions We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana Harvey Written by Kyle Buchanan | 05 Aug 2009 Variety announced today that Tom Hanks has decided not to star in Steven Spielberg’s remake of Harvey, avoiding exactly the kind of unwinnable and unimaginative comparisons to Jimmy Stewart that we warned him against. So what’s next for the project? We can guess! At this point, it seems utterly inevitable that Spielberg will tap Will Smith to star - after all, the actor was in the mix when the project was first announced, and his shooting schedule is completely clear in 2010. Without pressing sequel commitments and with most of his star vehicles still in development (including a Spielberg-helmed redo of Oldboy), Smith would appear to have this one sewn up. And while we’re making predictions, here’s another: If Smith gets the nod, expect Zoe Saldana to be cast as his skeptical sister. She’s worked with Spielberg before on The Terminal, she’ll be coming off a stellar 2009, and she’s got no projects set with a definite date next year (since the Star Trek sequel is still in the planning stages). I’m still willing to be surprised, but methinks you don’t remake Harvey if you’re intent on throwing audiences for a loop. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds *People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.* ** -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Oh yes, I remember that show. It was a good show, goofy but real short. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525,right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenBooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
I agree brunettes are sexier than blondes by far but dems da breaks... I think GM and Ebay help fund the film. Product placement. It used to be subtle now a lot of it is blatant commercials in the film. They might as well stop the action and do a commercial. Something like, I'm calling 911 on my new Nokia phone! Let's chase the bad guys in my new CHEVORLET CAMERO! Speaking of Exosuits, there was a cartoon that came out in the 90s that featured people from earth using exosuits in space fighting terrorists and the suits were becoming sentient after 2 years of use with a human. Do you remember that one? I would pay good money for a live action/cgi version of robotech! On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@... wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525,right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenBooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
Good question. Wasn't there an American DW production once? On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The british casting makes GI Joe look like an alternate universe. I wonder how some of the UK characters would look if they were created here? I think Dr.Who would have a gun. :) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:30 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: You know, I've been watching the press coverage on this movie. there are an AWFUL lot of Brits in this picture. Half the cast grew up on Action Man, not GI Joe. Very strange casting. On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!?
Phillip K Dick's VALIS. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: For me, The Mote In God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Great ideas, semi-plausible scientific bases, fun read all the way through. (And, apparently, some of my former friends agree -- the four who stole each of the four copies I owned, that is.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!? Date : Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:46:14 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The question about Asimov's Foundation septology leads me to ask what was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW! And, by that, I mean the last novel that made your head spin around. For me it was William Gibson's Neuromancer and that was published in 1984, twenty-five years ago! By-the-by, I am only interested in novel novels - do not summit graphic novels. Thanks, ~rave! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Re: What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!?
My favorite sf short story of all-time is Harlan Ellison's One Life Furnished in Early Poverty, where a disgruntled writer goes back in time to befriend himself as a boy and realizes that HE is seminal event that shaped the rest of his unhappy life. I read it thirty-five years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, votomguy votom...@... wrote: Well it wasn't a novel, but a short story written in 1989. David Drake's At Any Price. It takes place in the Hammer's Slammers Universe on a predominiately African World where Islamic fundamentalists have taken over and are killing black Islamic followers who don't convert to becoming Arab Muslims. In lieu of the Darfar situation, it definitely hit you like a punch in the gut, but in a good way as it was thought provoking. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: The question about Asimov's Foundation septology leads me to ask what was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW! And, by that, I mean the last novel that made your head spin around. For me it was William Gibson's Neuromancer and that was published in 1984, twenty-five years ago! By-the-by, I am only interested in novel novels - do not summit graphic novels. Thanks, ~rave!
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Doctor is In (Planet of the Dead)
It's a joke, son. And, I thought, an obvious one. NOBODY ever gets Stan Lee wrong but I wish I had a dollar for every time I have seen Mr. and Dr. Spock get transposed. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Lee Stan?? - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:03:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Doctor is In (Planet of the Dead) Actually, I have it on good authority that Dr. Spock, the baby doctor guru, was also fond of firing off a sardonic fascinating! ; As Marvel mensch Lee Stan would say, Sheeesh! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: You mean *Mr.* Spock, or is that another unnecessary change from the alternate reality of the latest Trek movie?? :) - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 5:53:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Doctor is In (Planet of the Dead) As Dr. Spock would say, Fascinating. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: I had the complete opposite reaction to Christina. I found her to be annoying, lacking in personality, and very wooden. Her lines were painful to listen to as well. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: Hopefully, in a week's time, I'll be able to comment further on this, as I hope to be Comcrap-free. Martin (*everything* crossed) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] The Doctor is In (Planet of the Dead) Date : Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:33:03 - From : ravenadal ravenadal@ To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I enjoyed the Dr. Who episode Planet of the Dead. The episode was influenced by several works: a little bit Indiana Jones, a little bit Flight of the Phoenix, a little bit Pitch Black, and sixties' films such as Charade and Topkapi, which included Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn being witty and sophisticated together, and then running for their lives. Michelle Ryan (late of the Bionic Woman) is bright, perky and evanescent as Lady Christina de Souza, a totally British cross between tomb raider Lara Croft and Harry Potter's Hermione Granger. Headstrong and willing to dive headlong into any situation, Christina is,ironically, the perfect companion for the expiring and suddenly companion-adverse Doctor. Her cat burglar's kit bag was a perfect match for the Doctor's all-purpose sonic screw driver. Also, British stand-up comedian Lee Evans is a hoot as the Doctor obsessive Professor Malcolm Taylor. To beat my personal drum, let me give shout-outs to Noma Kumezweni as the pragmatic and by-the-book Unified Intelligence Task (UNIT) force leader, Capt. Erisa Magambo, Daniel Kuluuya (as Barclay) and Reginald Tsiboe (as Lou). As people in their fifth decade drop dead all around me, I am pleased to have lived long enough to see names like Kumezweni, Kuluuya and Tsiboe in the credits of an episodic television program, albeit a British one. Planet of the Dead is supposed to be the last time the Doctor gets to have any fun. If so, I enjoyed the ride. ~rave! http://twitter.com/ravenadal http://blackplush.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Today on the World Ebon
Visionary Nat Turner forms the raid band Southampton Insurrection. He will be best known for the song Sixteen Hanged from the band's debut album Chosen by God. http://theworldebon.blogspot.com/2009/08/selahday-lisimba-20-10009.html
[RE][scifinoir2] Today on the World Ebon
That, sir, is *sublime*. :-D -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Today on the World Ebon Date : Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:30:02 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Visionary Nat Turner forms the raid band Southampton Insurrection. He will be best known for the song Sixteen Hanged from the band's debut album Chosen by God. http://theworldebon.blogspot.com/2009/08/selahday-lisimba-20-10009.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] Re: What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!?
Thanks, rave. I need to get my hands on that for reading. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!? Date : Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:11:06 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com My favorite sf short story of all-time is Harlan Ellison's One Life Furnished in Early Poverty, where a disgruntled writer goes back in time to befriend himself as a boy and realizes that HE is seminal event that shaped the rest of his unhappy life. I read it thirty-five years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, votomguy wrote: Well it wasn't a novel, but a short story written in 1989. David Drake's At Any Price. It takes place in the Hammer's Slammers Universe on a predominiately African World where Islamic fundamentalists have taken over and are killing black Islamic followers who don't convert to becoming Arab Muslims. In lieu of the Darfar situation, it definitely hit you like a punch in the gut, but in a good way as it was thought provoking. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal wrote: The question about Asimov's Foundation septology leads me to ask what was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW! And, by that, I mean the last novel that made your head spin around. For me it was William Gibson's Neuromancer and that was published in 1984, twenty-five years ago! By-the-by, I am only interested in novel novels - do not summit graphic novels. Thanks, ~rave! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
Other than the Beeb's productions, the only DW renditions I can think of were Faux/Fixed/Fox's version (the mention of which on my part may get me tossed from the DW Lifers' Club) and a couple of DW movies done in the 60s with Peter Cushing as a human Doctor. Let me pop another tab and look... Nope, nothing else, according to IMDb. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:34:03 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Good question. Wasn't there an American DW production once? On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: The british casting makes GI Joe look like an alternate universe. I wonder how some of the UK characters would look if they were created here? I think Dr.Who would have a gun. :) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:30 AM, Daryle Lockhart wrote: You know, I've been watching the press coverage on this movie. there are an AWFUL lot of Brits in this picture. Half the cast grew up on Action Man, not GI Joe. Very strange casting. On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Michelle, i totally agree with u. on all points. as a matter of fact, Ms. Torres is the only reason i envy Mr. Fishburn! Fate. --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com wrote: From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
Keith, you're *not* alone there. In another of my forums, a fellow anime fan posted a link to what he thought was a trailer for the new G-Force movie, apparently without looking at the trailer. I was the first in the group to watch it, and seeing talking hamsters was a shock to the system. (For the record, there *is* an anime Gatchaman movie rolling out soon. There are some cool pics previewed at io9, but the site appears to be on vacation, so I can't link to them. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:39:41 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So that means i'm the only one who keeps thinking the movie G-Force should be about a bunch of teens with winged birdlike costumes who can fly and have wild weapons and a cool airship/spaceship? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/movies/25eddie.html June 25, 2009 Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy By BROOKS BARNES LOS ANGELES If Eddie Murphy's career were an injured horse, it would be shot and the carcass buried in the remotest part of the desert to ensure no one ever stumbled upon it. That harsh sentence, written on June 12 by Rick Bentley in The Fresno Bee in California, is as good an example as any of the prevailing sentiment about Mr. Murphy these days. With two big flops in a row (Imagine That and Meet Dave), another risky project on the way (A Thousand Words) and a diva reputation, people seem to be confused. Why does Hollywood keep hiring this man? The answer multifaceted but almost universally agreed upon by moviedom's power players offers insights into how the gears of the modern motion picture business grind. Mr. Murphy is still considered Hollywood royalty, if no longer a member of the A-list then the solid B-plus. One reason is that, contrary to conventional wisdom, studios have long memories. People who prophesied that his career was over in 2002 with The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which cost about $100 million to make but only sold about $7 million worldwide in tickets, looked awfully foolish when Norbit arrived five years later. It cost about $60 million and featured him in a fat suit, sold $159 million worldwide in tickets and was a smash on DVD. He is explosive, given the right project, the right circumstances, the right concept, the right director, said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the chief executive of DreamWorks Animation and a friend. What of the notion that Mr. Murphy has lost his movie mojo? Absolute nonsense, Mr. Katzenberg said. Mr. Murphy, 48, is one of a declining number of actors whose name alone can get a movie made. While studios are increasingly balking at paying top dollar for brand-name actors and Mr. Murphy still asks for $20 million a picture and a cut of the gross they still want to be in business with them because they believe it lessens their risk. The challenge with Eddie is that you have to put his brand on the right tin can, said the consultant James Ulmer, who compiles the biannual report The Ulmer Scale, which rates the global bankability of actors. His audiences are very straitjacketed in their expectations of him, and by that I mostly mean fat suit, fat suit, fat suit. In addition Mr. Murphy's name is a marketing hook on a DVD, and he remains one of the few American comedians who can deliver results overseas. Hollywood understands that big-time comedy careers are often volatile. Plot the box office runs of Will Ferrell and Mike Myers against those of dramatic stars like Will Smith and Tom Cruise, and the comedians' are all over the map. Because comedies tend to be easier to film (if not to perform), those players are at bat more often, and so a few misses are considered normal. That's not to say Mr. Murphy isn't paying a price for his track record. Paramount recently rejected a biopic about Richard Pryor that had Mr. Murphy attached to star. The studio's plans for a fourth Beverly Hills Cop are also stalled. Web sites like Studio System (studiosystem.com) that track movie projects list a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man as one of his next films, but Universal Pictures put that project on the back burner more than a year ago (around the time Meet Dave tanked). Arnold Robinson, Mr. Murphy's publicist, said he would not trouble his client with an interview request from a newspaper. Mr. Murphy does not do print interviews, he said in an e-mail, adding, For his age and body of work there are only one or two other actors that can compare to his career box office numbers. Mr. Murphy has other potential projects floating around a third Nutty Professor is in development at Universal and he has a guaranteed hit next spring in DreamWorks' Shrek Forever After, in which he reprises his vocal role as the sassy Donkey. But the star also has difficult decisions to make about his career. His longtime agent, James A. Wiatt, the chairman of William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, is leaving the agency. Mr. Wiatt declined to comment, but a spokesman for the agency said it expected Mr. Murphy to remain a client. He hasn't been doing himself many favors when it comes to staying in Hollywood's good graces. It didn't help, for instance, when he fought a paternity claim by the former Spice Girl Melanie Brown in 2007, only to have a DNA test prove him wrong. And he can be difficult when it comes to promoting his movies. He arrived at the Imagine That press junket nearly two hours late far from normal behavior for stars, even major ones and was 45 minutes late to the premiere. At least he showed up; last summer, he failed to attend the Los Angeles premiere of Meet Dave. Mr. Murphy, according to his publicist, was unable to attend because he had already started filming A Thousand Words.
[scifinoir2] Something has gone wrong with Where the Wild Things Are
By PATRICK GOLDSTEIN, THE BIG PICTURE July 12, 2008 SOMETHING HAS gone very wrong with Where the Wild Things Are, the much-anticipated Spike Jonze adaptation of Maurice Sendak's classic children's book. The $80-million film, with a script by literary cool guy Dave Eggers, was filmed largely in the second half of 2006 in Australia. It was originally slated for release this October but got pushed back to the fall of 2009. Last week it disappeared entirely from the Warner Bros. release schedule, a sign of continuing troubles.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 / Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-digest@ yahoogroups. com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeat u...@yahoogroups .com scifinoir2-unsubscr i...@yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?amp;OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy
Rave, i see where the article is going, but i disagree with the last movie being a flop. imagine that might not have made a ton of money, but my daughter and i truly enjoyed it. she is waiting on the dvd. made me take her 2 see it twice. Fate. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:22 AM http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 06/25/movies/ 25eddie.html June 25, 2009 Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy By BROOKS BARNES LOS ANGELES — If Eddie Murphy's career were an injured horse, it would be shot and the carcass buried in the remotest part of the desert to ensure no one ever stumbled upon it. That harsh sentence, written on June 12 by Rick Bentley in The Fresno Bee in California, is as good an example as any of the prevailing sentiment about Mr. Murphy these days. With two big flops in a row (Imagine That and Meet Dave), another risky project on the way (A Thousand Words) and a diva reputation, people seem to be confused. Why does Hollywood keep hiring this man? The answer — multifaceted but almost universally agreed upon by moviedom's power players — offers insights into how the gears of the modern motion picture business grind. Mr. Murphy is still considered Hollywood royalty, if no longer a member of the A-list then the solid B-plus. One reason is that, contrary to conventional wisdom, studios have long memories. People who prophesied that his career was over in 2002 with The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which cost about $100 million to make but only sold about $7 million worldwide in tickets, looked awfully foolish when Norbit arrived five years later. It cost about $60 million and featured him in a fat suit, sold $159 million worldwide in tickets and was a smash on DVD. He is explosive, given the right project, the right circumstances, the right concept, the right director, said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the chief executive of DreamWorks Animation and a friend. What of the notion that Mr. Murphy has lost his movie mojo? Absolute nonsense, Mr. Katzenberg said. Mr. Murphy, 48, is one of a declining number of actors whose name alone can get a movie made. While studios are increasingly balking at paying top dollar for brand-name actors — and Mr. Murphy still asks for $20 million a picture and a cut of the gross — they still want to be in business with them because they believe it lessens their risk. The challenge with Eddie is that you have to put his brand on the right tin can, said the consultant James Ulmer, who compiles the biannual report The Ulmer Scale, which rates the global bankability of actors. His audiences are very straitjacketed in their expectations of him, and by that I mostly mean fat suit, fat suit, fat suit. In addition Mr. Murphy's name is a marketing hook on a DVD, and he remains one of the few American comedians who can deliver results overseas. Hollywood understands that big-time comedy careers are often volatile. Plot the box office runs of Will Ferrell and Mike Myers against those of dramatic stars like Will Smith and Tom Cruise, and the comedians' are all over the map. Because comedies tend to be easier to film (if not to perform), those players are at bat more often, and so a few misses are considered normal. That's not to say Mr. Murphy isn't paying a price for his track record. Paramount recently rejected a biopic about Richard Pryor that had Mr. Murphy attached to star. The studio's plans for a fourth Beverly Hills Cop are also stalled. Web sites like Studio System (studiosystem. com) that track movie projects list a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man as one of his next films, but Universal Pictures put that project on the back burner more than a year ago (around the time Meet Dave tanked). Arnold Robinson, Mr. Murphy's publicist, said he would not trouble his client with an interview request from a newspaper. Mr. Murphy does not do print interviews, he said in an e-mail, adding, For his age and body of work there are only one or two other actors that can compare to his career box office numbers. Mr. Murphy has other potential projects floating around — a third Nutty Professor is in development at Universal — and he has a guaranteed hit next spring in DreamWorks' Shrek Forever After, in which he reprises his vocal role as the sassy Donkey. But the star also has difficult decisions to make about his career. His longtime agent, James A. Wiatt, the chairman of William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, is leaving the agency. Mr. Wiatt declined to comment, but a spokesman for the agency said it expected Mr. Murphy to remain a client. He hasn't been doing himself many favors when it comes to staying in Hollywood's good graces. It didn't help, for instance, when he fought a
[scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent
Denzel takes pay cut. As Jay Leno says (speaking about Paula Abdul)anything over $8 million is wasted, anyway. ~rave! http://faegaz.notlong.com Hollywood gets tough on talent: $20-million movie salaries go down the tubes It wasn't so long ago, after putting in years building up his career, that Denzel Washington finally cracked the $20-million star salary club. But now he's taking a sizable pay cut to star in the upcoming 20th Century Fox film Unstoppable after the studio threatened to pull the plug on the picture in order to get its costs down. David Fincher used to make $8 million to $10 million per picture, along with a nice piece of first-dollar gross, as an A-list director. But he's taking considerably less money -- and no first-dollar gross -- to get his new Sony Pictures film, The Social Network, off the ground. The same goes for Dinner for Schmucks star Steve Carell and director Jay Roach. They may be two of the top comic talents in the business, but the duo aren't getting their usual salary quotes for the upcoming Paramount movie. When Julia Roberts told Disney she wouldn't cut her salary to star in the recent comedy The Proposal, the studio bailed on Roberts, hiring Sandra Bullock for even less than what it had offered Roberts. The movie turned out to be one of the summer's biggest comedy hits. What's going on here? In Hollywood, whenever a studio executive would sit down to negotiate with an agent for an actor, writer or filmmaker, one of the first questions volleyed across the table was: What's your client's quote? If you'd written, directed or starred in a big hit, or even enjoyed a couple of modest successes in a row, your quote went up. And unless you ran off to make some nutty labor-of-love indie film where everyone committed suicide in the third act, your salary level was assured. That quote stuck like glue. Even after a few stinkers, a big star could still get their $15- or $20-million fee. Not anymore. For basically everyone except Will Smith, salary quotes have evaporated, simply vanishing into thin air, as have the much-coveted first-dollar gross deals that top actors and filmmakers used to get. As one successful producer put it: Quotes and first-dollar gross have just flown out the window -- the studios simply won't make those deals anymore, he explained. It's all about what the role is worth in that particular movie. The studio pays for the lead actor or actress, but after that, well, the talent is just getting grinded. Everyone else is lucky to be working. (You'll notice that no one is quoted by name in this post because, in addition to the natural Hollywood aversion to talking about salaries, the studio chiefs don't want to look like they're gloating about reining in talent costs -- although they often are, gloating that is -- while the agents and managers don't want their clients to think that they've been largely powerless to stop the new austerity measures, for fear that their talent will skedaddle across town to another agency.) In Hollywood the new mantra is: cash break zero. Instead of paying out first-dollar gross, where top talent would start collecting huge wads of cash right off the top from the very first box-office receipts, the studios are now constructing deals where the talent participates in the profits from a film only after the studio has recouped both its production and marketing costs. The new arrangement can still lead to huge windfalls -- in part because the studios are now giving top talent a far bigger piece of the home video take than they could get before. But the talent only reaps the rewards if they are willing to bet on themselves and can deliver a hit. Just ask Michael Bay, who has boasted that he made $80 million from his share of the box office (and merchandising) from the first Transformers film. Director Todd Phillips is also enjoying a lucrative payday from Warners after making The Hangover, where he gave up a chunk of his up-front salary in return for a bigger piece of the back end. But not every movie is a monster hit. In the new cash break zero universe, if a film flops, or simply underperforms, the star isn't walking away with the first batch of money that comes rolling in. If the studio doesn't get to its break-even point, the talent (except for their reduced up-front salary) is walking away empty-handed. Why did the movie studios finally get tough with talent? And is this really good for the movie business? Bad for talent? Or just a rare sign of fiscal sanity? Keep reading: In Hollywood, everything revolves around leverage. When the business was flush, talent had the edge. If one studio wouldn't do a deal, usually someone else surely would. But in lean times, it's the studios who have all the muscle. While some talent reps smell collusion, it's more likely that the talent is being hurt because of the way film budgets are put together. At its most basic, a movie has
[scifinoir2] Re: Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy
Everybody I know (well, everybody black I know) who went to see Imagine that, especially with young daughters/granddaughters were charmed by it. But, that is sort of the point of the article. I suspect Imagine that, will do well on DVD and will get many plays on Pay TV. Even Meet Dave, which is awful, made $50 million worldwide on an alleged budget of $60 million. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@... wrote: Rave, i see where the article is going, but i disagree with the last movie being a flop. imagine that might not have made a ton of money, but my daughter and i truly enjoyed it. she is waiting on the dvd. made me take her 2 see it twice. Fate. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, ravenadal ravena...@... wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:22 AM  http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 06/25/movies/ 25eddie.html June 25, 2009 Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy By BROOKS BARNES LOS ANGELES â If Eddie Murphy's career were an injured horse, it would be shot and the carcass buried in the remotest part of the desert to ensure no one ever stumbled upon it. That harsh sentence, written on June 12 by Rick Bentley in The Fresno Bee in California, is as good an example as any of the prevailing sentiment about Mr. Murphy these days. With two big flops in a row (Imagine That and Meet Dave), another risky project on the way (A Thousand Words) and a diva reputation, people seem to be confused. Why does Hollywood keep hiring this man? The answer â multifaceted but almost universally agreed upon by moviedom's power players â offers insights into how the gears of the modern motion picture business grind. Mr. Murphy is still considered Hollywood royalty, if no longer a member of the A-list then the solid B-plus. One reason is that, contrary to conventional wisdom, studios have long memories. People who prophesied that his career was over in 2002 with The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which cost about $100 million to make but only sold about $7 million worldwide in tickets, looked awfully foolish when Norbit arrived five years later. It cost about $60 million and featured him in a fat suit, sold $159 million worldwide in tickets and was a smash on DVD. He is explosive, given the right project, the right circumstances, the right concept, the right director, said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the chief executive of DreamWorks Animation and a friend. What of the notion that Mr. Murphy has lost his movie mojo? Absolute nonsense, Mr. Katzenberg said. Mr. Murphy, 48, is one of a declining number of actors whose name alone can get a movie made. While studios are increasingly balking at paying top dollar for brand-name actors â and Mr. Murphy still asks for $20 million a picture and a cut of the gross â they still want to be in business with them because they believe it lessens their risk. The challenge with Eddie is that you have to put his brand on the right tin can, said the consultant James Ulmer, who compiles the biannual report The Ulmer Scale, which rates the global bankability of actors. His audiences are very straitjacketed in their expectations of him, and by that I mostly mean fat suit, fat suit, fat suit. In addition Mr. Murphy's name is a marketing hook on a DVD, and he remains one of the few American comedians who can deliver results overseas. Hollywood understands that big-time comedy careers are often volatile. Plot the box office runs of Will Ferrell and Mike Myers against those of dramatic stars like Will Smith and Tom Cruise, and the comedians' are all over the map. Because comedies tend to be easier to film (if not to perform), those players are at bat more often, and so a few misses are considered normal. That's not to say Mr. Murphy isn't paying a price for his track record. Paramount recently rejected a biopic about Richard Pryor that had Mr. Murphy attached to star. The studio's plans for a fourth Beverly Hills Cop are also stalled. Web sites like Studio System (studiosystem. com) that track movie projects list a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man as one of his next films, but Universal Pictures put that project on the back burner more than a year ago (around the time Meet Dave tanked). Arnold Robinson, Mr. Murphy's publicist, said he would not trouble his client with an interview request from a newspaper. Mr. Murphy does not do print interviews, he said in an e-mail, adding, For his age and body of work there are only one or two other actors that can compare to his career box office numbers. Mr. Murphy has other potential projects floating around â a third Nutty Professor is in development at
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy
Rave, u are correct. meet dave was simply awful. not as bad as pluto nash, but damn close. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:45 AM Everybody I know (well, everybody black I know) who went to see Imagine that, especially with young daughters/granddaug hters were charmed by it. But, that is sort of the point of the article. I suspect Imagine that, will do well on DVD and will get many plays on Pay TV. Even Meet Dave, which is awful, made $50 million worldwide on an alleged budget of $60 million. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ ... wrote: Rave, i see where the article is going, but i disagree with the last movie being a flop. imagine that might not have made a ton of money, but my daughter and i truly enjoyed it. she is waiting on the dvd. made me take her 2 see it twice. Fate. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, ravenadal ravena...@. .. wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@. .. Subject: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:22 AM  http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 06/25/movies/ 25eddie.html June 25, 2009 Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy By BROOKS BARNES LOS ANGELES †If Eddie Murphy's career were an injured horse, it would be shot and the carcass buried in the remotest part of the desert to ensure no one ever stumbled upon it. That harsh sentence, written on June 12 by Rick Bentley in The Fresno Bee in California, is as good an example as any of the prevailing sentiment about Mr. Murphy these days. With two big flops in a row (Imagine That and Meet Dave), another risky project on the way (A Thousand Words) and a diva reputation, people seem to be confused. Why does Hollywood keep hiring this man? The answer †multifaceted but almost universally agreed upon by moviedom's power players †offers insights into how the gears of the modern motion picture business grind. Mr. Murphy is still considered Hollywood royalty, if no longer a member of the A-list then the solid B-plus. One reason is that, contrary to conventional wisdom, studios have long memories. People who prophesied that his career was over in 2002 with The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which cost about $100 million to make but only sold about $7 million worldwide in tickets, looked awfully foolish when Norbit arrived five years later. It cost about $60 million and featured him in a fat suit, sold $159 million worldwide in tickets and was a smash on DVD. He is explosive, given the right project, the right circumstances, the right concept, the right director, said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the chief executive of DreamWorks Animation and a friend. What of the notion that Mr. Murphy has lost his movie mojo? Absolute nonsense, Mr. Katzenberg said. Mr. Murphy, 48, is one of a declining number of actors whose name alone can get a movie made. While studios are increasingly balking at paying top dollar for brand-name actors †and Mr. Murphy still asks for $20 million a picture and a cut of the gross †they still want to be in business with them because they believe it lessens their risk. The challenge with Eddie is that you have to put his brand on the right tin can, said the consultant James Ulmer, who compiles the biannual report The Ulmer Scale, which rates the global bankability of actors. His audiences are very straitjacketed in their expectations of him, and by that I mostly mean fat suit, fat suit, fat suit. In addition Mr. Murphy's name is a marketing hook on a DVD, and he remains one of the few American comedians who can deliver results overseas. Hollywood understands that big-time comedy careers are often volatile. Plot the box office runs of Will Ferrell and Mike Myers against those of dramatic stars like Will Smith and Tom Cruise, and the comedians' are all over the map. Because comedies tend to be easier to film (if not to perform), those players are at bat more often, and so a few misses are considered normal. That's not to say Mr. Murphy isn't paying a price for his track record. Paramount recently rejected a biopic about Richard Pryor that had Mr. Murphy attached to star. The studio's plans for a fourth Beverly Hills Cop are also stalled. Web sites like Studio System (studiosystem. com) that track movie projects list a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man as one of his next films, but Universal Pictures put that project on the back burner more than a year ago (around the time Meet
Re: [scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent
Denzel's reduced front end was the whole problem. Fox came back with an offer than gives him a LOT more back end, so Denzel's not exactly suffering for this picture. As an aside, I don't know why Denzel's not directing more. I like his work. The studios are realizing that Southern California is still on planet Earth, and that this money has to COME from somewhere. Finally. Nice part there about Will Smith. Hopefully this will inspire actors (and managers/agents) to choose smarter projects. Julia Roberts in The Proposal would have been a disaster. This seems like a piece about the changing of the guard in Hollywood, and it's about time. On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:39 AM, ravenadal wrote: Denzel takes pay cut. As Jay Leno says (speaking about Paula Abdul) anything over $8 million is wasted, anyway. ~rave! http://faegaz.notlong.com Hollywood gets tough on talent: $20-million movie salaries go down the tubes It wasn't so long ago, after putting in years building up his career, that Denzel Washington finally cracked the $20-million star salary club. But now he's taking a sizable pay cut to star in the upcoming 20th Century Fox film Unstoppable after the studio threatened to pull the plug on the picture in order to get its costs down. David Fincher used to make $8 million to $10 million per picture, along with a nice piece of first-dollar gross, as an A- list director. But he's taking considerably less money -- and no first-dollar gross -- to get his new Sony Pictures film, The Social Network, off the ground. The same goes for Dinner for Schmucks star Steve Carell and director Jay Roach. They may be two of the top comic talents in the business, but the duo aren't getting their usual salary quotes for the upcoming Paramount movie. When Julia Roberts told Disney she wouldn't cut her salary to star in the recent comedy The Proposal, the studio bailed on Roberts, hiring Sandra Bullock for even less than what it had offered Roberts. The movie turned out to be one of the summer's biggest comedy hits. What's going on here? In Hollywood, whenever a studio executive would sit down to negotiate with an agent for an actor, writer or filmmaker, one of the first questions volleyed across the table was: What's your client's quote? If you'd written, directed or starred in a big hit, or even enjoyed a couple of modest successes in a row, your quote went up. And unless you ran off to make some nutty labor-of-love indie film where everyone committed suicide in the third act, your salary level was assured. That quote stuck like glue. Even after a few stinkers, a big star could still get their $15- or $20-million fee. Not anymore. For basically everyone except Will Smith, salary quotes have evaporated, simply vanishing into thin air, as have the much-coveted first-dollar gross deals that top actors and filmmakers used to get. As one successful producer put it: Quotes and first-dollar gross have just flown out the window -- the studios simply won't make those deals anymore, he explained. It's all about what the role is worth in that particular movie. The studio pays for the lead actor or actress, but after that, well, the talent is just getting grinded. Everyone else is lucky to be working. (You'll notice that no one is quoted by name in this post because, in addition to the natural Hollywood aversion to talking about salaries, the studio chiefs don't want to look like they're gloating about reining in talent costs -- although they often are, gloating that is -- while the agents and managers don't want their clients to think that they've been largely powerless to stop the new austerity measures, for fear that their talent will skedaddle across town to another agency.) In Hollywood the new mantra is: cash break zero. Instead of paying out first-dollar gross, where top talent would start collecting huge wads of cash right off the top from the very first box-office receipts, the studios are now constructing deals where the talent participates in the profits from a film only after the studio has recouped both its production and marketing costs. The new arrangement can still lead to huge windfalls -- in part because the studios are now giving top talent a far bigger piece of the home video take than they could get before. But the talent only reaps the rewards if they are willing to bet on themselves and can deliver a hit. Just ask Michael Bay, who has boasted that he made $80 million from his share of the box office (and merchandising) from the first Transformers film. Director Todd Phillips is also enjoying a lucrative payday from Warners after making The Hangover, where he gave up a chunk of his up-front salary in return for a bigger piece of the back end. But not every movie is a monster hit. In the new cash break zero universe, if a film flops, or simply underperforms,
Re: [scifinoir2] Not drinking the Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. kool-aid
and why doesn't she count? carlos watson (11 - noon), does he count? --- On Thu, 8/6/09, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Not drinking the Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. kool-aid To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:47 PM MSNBC has n Blacks and Tamaron Hall doesn't count. --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Not drinking the Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. kool-aid To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:36 PM please. tell me which network does not? --- On Thu, 8/6/09, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Not drinking the Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. kool-aid To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:34 PM MSNBC has a diversity probelm --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: My new man crush: Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:43 AM i do so love rachel and that rhodes scholar education of hers. she is brilliant! and so is o'donnell. it is tenuous 4 me 2 watch scarbrough because he likes 2 bring on buchanan (who is totally 4 everything white - who rachel beat up last week on her program. i really starting 2 like morning meeting with dylan too. unlike fixed news, dylan is totally unpartisian and when he brings on steven a. smith, it is a time 2 be had! --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: My new man crush: Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:37 AM The Man is AWESOME! !!! The quiet stealth takedown tactic is out of this world. I'm surprise Scarborough keeps him on. One time Rachel Maddow took him down in a similar way after letting him bully for days on road to the white house and Scarborough ending up walking off the set never to return again. Another guy who causes Scarborough to sputter is his female host's father. Brezinski Back to the subject at hand, you can never have too much O'Donnell as far as I am concerned. He should be giving courses to talking heads on the left. Perhaps Maddow is an acolyte -Original Message- From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:07 AM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: My new man crush: Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. This morning, O'Donnell sat quietly and let economic guru Peter Schiff go on and on about how the problem with the American economic system is TOO MUCH REGULATION (NOT that there was lax regulation and not enough regulation which led directly to our recent economic meltdown)then deftly picked his argument apart with specific and surgical questions that, frankly, left Schiff slightly unnerved. Joe Scarborough had to step in and go to commercial. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: I have not been able to get into Ed's Show, but I have always liked him when he was a guest on someone's show, and continue to like him. I always felt he's was the blue collar white man's dem, even though I relate to most of what he says., He gets his point across in a way that is similar to how the republicans come after democrats when appealing to this target audience. However, Lawrence has some kind of stealth affect. He take apart the republican spin quietly, without sounding like a yelling talking heal, nevertheless beating them over the head with cold hard facts. He background as a dealmaker on the hill is paying off From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Augustus Augustus Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:13 AM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My new man crush: Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. don't know about that one Rave. i like Ed. he jumps up in their butts too! --- On Wed, 8/5/09, ravenadal ravena...@. .. wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@. .. Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: My new man crush: Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 6:23 PM I'm on the late show but Lawrence Francis O'Donnell, Jr. is hosting the Ed Show this week on MSNBC. IMHO a significant upgrade. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, ravenadal ravenadal@ .. wrote: I've got a new
Re: [scifinoir2] Stewart Slams CNN Fixed News
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[scifinoir2] Stewart Slams CNN Fixed News
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Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com wrote: From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist
[scifinoir2] Fwd: Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists
ahar...@earthlink.net Really cool science stuff. Fwd: Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists News is the most important resource for any writer. At Kalkion, we try to create a resource of information which you can use in your stories - and if you are not a writer, then keep yourself updated with the latest development in the scientific and entertainment world. Here is your today's dosage of latest updates from Kalkion. Please write to us at edi...@kalkion.com, if you have any suggestions to improve upon our services. Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists http://kalkion.com/news/triple-asteroid-system-surprises-scientists/447 Radar imaging at NASA's Goldstone Solar System Radar on June 12 and 14, 2009, revealed that near-Earth asteroid 1994 CC is a triple system. Titan Looks Like Earth, Really? http://kalkion.com/news/titan-looks-earth-really/446 It is really surprising how closely Titan's surface resembles Earth's, says Rosaly Lopes, a planetary geologist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, who is presenting the results on Friday, 7 August. Can Artists Design Robots? http://kalkion.com/news/can-artists-design-robots/445 You've heard about programs that try to teach science and math-oriented youth to build robots to increase their understanding of science and engineering. Kalkion.com newslet...@kalkion.com --- Disclaimer: This newsletter is sent to you because you have subscribed to Kalkion.com Daily Newsletter. To unsubscribe from the FREE Newsletter, please send email to newslet...@kalkion.com with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject field. If you think that this Newsletter reached you by mistake, and you don't want to receive it in future, please send an email to newslet...@kalkion.com with REMOVE in the subject field. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW
Yah. An inspired choice. :-) Brent Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com writes: Phillip K Dick's VALIS.
[scifinoir2] too damn funny
before I offend, sorry, but this is too damn funny! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=h54CMY7YtHM Fate.
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Daybreak - taye diggs Blade: The Series DS9 Crusade - B5 spinoff about looking for a cure 2 the plague Fate. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com wrote: From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist
[scifinoir2] Fox blames Redbox Kiosks for downturn in DVD sales
http://lahghie.notlong.com Fox Studio Trying to Pull New DVDs From Redbox Kiosks by Sarah McBride Thursday, August 6, 2009 Redbox, a unit of Coinstar Inc., rents DVDs for just $1 a night, which some studios believe is contributing to the slumping DVD sales market. Studio revenue from disc sales to retailers and rental outlets is due to fall by about $850 million to $12.9 billion this year, according to Adams Media Research. Fox had requested that Redbox keep its movies out of rental kiosks for 30 days, according to a person familiar with the situation. It also offered to continue to make its DVDs available on the official release date if Redbox agreed to better economic terms, such as sharing rental revenue, the person said. Redbox declined the offers. Now, Fox is instructing its distributors to make its movies available to Redbox only after 30 days. Redbox, with kiosks in thousands of supermarkets, convenience stores and other locations, has been on a tear in recent months. This week, it announced it would expand its kiosks into more than 2,000 Kroger supermarkets within the next year. Last year, Redbox sued General Electric Co.'s Universal Pictures after the studio told distributors not to make its movies available to Redbox. The lawsuit is awaiting a federal judge's decision in Delaware. Universal had demanded a 45-day delay before Redbox put its movies into kiosks. Redbox had refused to comply.
RE: [scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent
I remember seeing him in an interview a while ago, and he was asked that question. He's more of an actor's actor from what he said. I'm guessing there are superstar athletes who would be good front office people, but they like what they do each day. _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daryle Lockhart Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:39 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent Denzel's reduced front end was the whole problem. Fox came back with an offer than gives him a LOT more back end, so Denzel's not exactly suffering for this picture. As an aside, I don't know why Denzel's not directing more. I like his work. The studios are realizing that Southern California is still on planet Earth, and that this money has to COME from somewhere. Finally. Nice part there about Will Smith. Hopefully this will inspire actors (and managers/agents) to choose smarter projects. Julia Roberts in The Proposal would have been a disaster. This seems like a piece about the changing of the guard in Hollywood, and it's about time. On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:39 AM, ravenadal wrote: Denzel takes pay cut. As Jay Leno says (speaking about Paula Abdul)anything over $8 million is wasted, anyway. ~rave! http://faegaz. http://faegaz.notlong.com notlong.com Hollywood gets tough on talent: $20-million movie salaries go down the tubes It wasn't so long ago, after putting in years building up his career, that Denzel Washington finally cracked the $20-million star salary club. But now he's taking a sizable pay cut to star in the upcoming 20th Century Fox film Unstoppable after the studio threatened to pull the plug on the picture in order to get its costs down. David Fincher used to make $8 million to $10 million per picture, along with a nice piece of first-dollar gross, as an A-list director. But he's taking considerably less money -- and no first-dollar gross -- to get his new Sony Pictures film, The Social Network, off the ground. The same goes for Dinner for Schmucks star Steve Carell and director Jay Roach. They may be two of the top comic talents in the business, but the duo aren't getting their usual salary quotes for the upcoming Paramount movie. When Julia Roberts told Disney she wouldn't cut her salary to star in the recent comedy The Proposal, the studio bailed on Roberts, hiring Sandra Bullock for even less than what it had offered Roberts. The movie turned out to be one of the summer's biggest comedy hits. What's going on here? In Hollywood, whenever a studio executive would sit down to negotiate with an agent for an actor, writer or filmmaker, one of the first questions volleyed across the table was: What's your client's quote? If you'd written, directed or starred in a big hit, or even enjoyed a couple of modest successes in a row, your quote went up. And unless you ran off to make some nutty labor-of-love indie film where everyone committed suicide in the third act, your salary level was assured. That quote stuck like glue. Even after a few stinkers, a big star could still get their $15- or $20-million fee. Not anymore. For basically everyone except Will Smith, salary quotes have evaporated, simply vanishing into thin air, as have the much-coveted first-dollar gross deals that top actors and filmmakers used to get. As one successful producer put it: Quotes and first-dollar gross have just flown out the window -- the studios simply won't make those deals anymore, he explained. It's all about what the role is worth in that particular movie. The studio pays for the lead actor or actress, but after that, well, the talent is just getting grinded. Everyone else is lucky to be working. (You'll notice that no one is quoted by name in this post because, in addition to the natural Hollywood aversion to talking about salaries, the studio chiefs don't want to look like they're gloating about reining in talent costs -- although they often are, gloating that is -- while the agents and managers don't want their clients to think that they've been largely powerless to stop the new austerity measures, for fear that their talent will skedaddle across town to another agency.) In Hollywood the new mantra is: cash break zero. Instead of paying out first-dollar gross, where top talent would start collecting huge wads of cash right off the top from the very first box-office receipts, the studios are now constructing deals where the talent participates in the profits from a film only after the studio has recouped both its production and marketing costs. The new arrangement can still lead to huge windfalls -- in part because the studios are now giving top talent a far bigger piece of the home video take than they could get before. But the talent only reaps the rewards if they are willing to bet on themselves and can deliver a hit. Just ask Michael Bay, who has boasted that he made $80 million from his share
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Cleoptara 2525 --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com wrote: From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist
[scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
Two Words AWE SOME. it's all of the episodes. It should still be up on youtube. here's a working link to the first part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plAojf-KVog they broke them up into 11 5 minute mini episodes. there might be an series on adult swim, but i'm not sure. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Did you see GI Joe Resolute? On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM, votomguy votom...@... wrote: I'll be seeing it on Saturday. As a hardcore fan of GIJoe, the best I'm hoping for is for the movie to not suck. I refuse to call it GIJoe. I've been calling it Action Force featuring GIJoe for the past month or so. For the uninitiated Action Force is what the GIJoe comics were called in the UK and Europe. For all those hardcore GIJoe fans like me, look at the brightside at least we had Resolute which kicked serious butt. Failing that, I'll pick up The Story of GIJoe and call that my GIJoe for the summer. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists
Thanks, Amy! The Titan story will make a good piece for a story I'm working on. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Fwd: Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:33:01 -0400 From : Amy Harlib ahar...@earthlink.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ahar...@earthlink.net Really cool science stuff. Fwd: Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists News is the most important resource for any writer. At Kalkion, we try to create a resource of information which you can use in your stories - and if you are not a writer, then keep yourself updated with the latest development in the scientific and entertainment world. Here is your today's dosage of latest updates from Kalkion. Please write to us at edi...@kalkion.com, if you have any suggestions to improve upon our services. Triple Asteroid System Surprises Scientists Radar imaging at NASA's Goldstone Solar System Radar on June 12 and 14, 2009, revealed that near-Earth asteroid 1994 CC is a triple system. Titan Looks Like Earth, Really? It is really surprising how closely Titan's surface resembles Earth's, says Rosaly Lopes, a planetary geologist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, who is presenting the results on Friday, 7 August. Can Artists Design Robots? You've heard about programs that try to teach science and math-oriented youth to build robots to increase their understanding of science and engineering. Kalkion.com newslet...@kalkion.com --- Disclaimer: This newsletter is sent to you because you have subscribed to Kalkion.com Daily Newsletter. To unsubscribe from the FREE Newsletter, please send email to newslet...@kalkion.com with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject field. If you think that this Newsletter reached you by mistake, and you don't want to receive it in future, please send an email to newslet...@kalkion.com with REMOVE in the subject field. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] Stewart Slams CNN Fixed News
He has fed well on the flesh of his enemies. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Stewart Slams CNN amp; Fixed News Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com Cc : Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/stewart-slams-cnn-fox-for_n_252658.html check out this link. kool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Police investigation
A TT police officer stops at a ranch up in Tabaquite and talks with the owner, an old farmer. He tells the farmer, 'I need to inspect your property for illegally grown drugs.' The old farmer says, 'Okay, but make sure you don't go in that field over there.' The officer verbally explodes saying, 'Mister, I have the authority of the Government with me.' Reaching into his rear pant pocket and removing his Police badge, the officer proudly displays it to the farmer. 'See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish..on any land. There is nothing to stop me - this badge gives me the right. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand?' The farmer nods politely and goes about his chores. Within minutes, the farmer hears loud screams and sees the officer running for his life. Close behind is the farmer's bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer. The officer is clearly terrified. The old farmer immediately throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs. 'Your badge! Show him your badge!!'
[RE][scifinoir2] Police investigation
LMNAATWO!! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Police investigation Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:45 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com A Tamp;T police officer stops at a ranch up in Tabaquite and talks with the owner, an old farmer. He tells the farmer, 'I need to inspect your property for illegally grown drugs.' The old farmer says, 'Okay, but make sure you don't go in that field over there.' The officer verbally explodes saying, 'Mister, I have the authority of the Government with me.' Reaching into his rear pant pocket and removing his Police badge, the officer proudly displays it to the farmer. 'See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish..on any land. There is nothing to stop me - this badge gives me the right. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand?' The farmer nods politely and goes about his chores. Within minutes, the farmer hears loud screams and sees the officer running for his life. Close behind is the farmer's bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer. The officer is clearly terrified. The old farmer immediately throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs. 'Your badge! Show him your badge!!' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] Something has gone wrong with Where the Wild Things Are
(a single sigh of exasperation, followed by a Little Debbie binge) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Something has gone wrong with Where the Wild Things Are Date : Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:31:38 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com By PATRICK GOLDSTEIN, THE BIG PICTURE July 12, 2008 SOMETHING HAS gone very wrong with Where the Wild Things Are, the much-anticipated Spike Jonze adaptation of Maurice Sendak's classic children's book. The $80-million film, with a script by literary cool guy Dave Eggers, was filmed largely in the second half of 2006 in Australia. It was originally slated for release this October but got pushed back to the fall of 2009. Last week it disappeared entirely from the Warner Bros. release schedule, a sign of continuing troubles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
They should have made a miniseries based on the alternate universe. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com http://www.MichelleLaurenBooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntdshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com*wrote: From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellela urenbooks. com Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michellelaurenbooks/join ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com http://www.michellelaurenbooks.com/ ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/Starstruck-Hunter/dp/B002E19W2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1249512089sr=8-1| Fictionwisehttp://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b89347/Starstuck-Hunter/Michelle-Lauren/?si=0| Liquid Silver Books http://www.liquidsilverbooks.com/books/starstruckhunter.htm Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who
I am not a super Dr. Who fan but someone asked if there was a US version of the show. I haven't found any info on that yet. There were some that were financed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company in the late 70s. They also re-aired the show for a LONG time. I found some interesting info about the show here: wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who There was also a tidbit about the BBC systematically erasing shows to recycle tape! G!!! Crazy
Re: [scifinoir2] Something has gone wrong with Where the Wild Things Are
I heard that it was considered to be too scary for kids. That was a while back. It may be just another film on the shelf that we may never get to see. I would love to see all of the films that were never released that are gathering dust. There are probably some real gems hidden there. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:31 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: By PATRICK GOLDSTEIN, THE BIG PICTURE July 12, 2008 SOMETHING HAS gone very wrong with Where the Wild Things Are, the much-anticipated Spike Jonze adaptation of Maurice Sendak's classic children's book. The $80-million film, with a script by literary cool guy Dave Eggers, was filmed largely in the second half of 2006 in Australia. It was originally slated for release this October but got pushed back to the fall of 2009. Last week it disappeared entirely from the Warner Bros. release schedule, a sign of continuing troubles. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
I agree. I remember mention of the all spark in the original series. There was an episode or two that talked about it. I think Optimus or another character touched it or something like that. Anyone remember that? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?amp;OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
I saw the movie a few months back. It is the best interpretation with the original characters to date. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:27 PM, votomguy votom...@yahoo.com wrote: Two Words AWE SOME. it's all of the episodes. It should still be up on youtube. here's a working link to the first part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plAojf-KVog they broke them up into 11 5 minute mini episodes. there might be an series on adult swim, but i'm not sure. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Did you see GI Joe Resolute? On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM, votomguy votom...@... wrote: I'll be seeing it on Saturday. As a hardcore fan of GIJoe, the best I'm hoping for is for the movie to not suck. I refuse to call it GIJoe. I've been calling it Action Force featuring GIJoe for the past month or so. For the uninitiated Action Force is what the GIJoe comics were called in the UK and Europe. For all those hardcore GIJoe fans like me, look at the brightside at least we had Resolute which kicked serious butt. Failing that, I'll pick up The Story of GIJoe and call that my GIJoe for the summer. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] The Badge
A TT police officer stops at a ranch up in Tabaquite and talks with the owner, an old farmer. He tells the farmer, 'I need to inspect your property for illegally grown drugs.' The old farmer says, 'Okay, but make sure you don't go in that field over there.' The officer verbally explodes saying, 'Mister, I have the authority of the Government with me.' Reaching into his rear pant pocket and removing his Police badge, the officer proudly displays it to the farmer. 'See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish..on any land. There is nothing to stop me - this badge gives me the right. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand?' The farmer nods politely and goes about his chores. Within minutes, the farmer hears loud screams and sees the officer running for his life. Close behind is the farmer's bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer. The officer is clearly terrified. The old farmer immediately throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs. 'Your badge! Show him your badge!!' Fate.
[scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
Yes. This has been in the works for a year now and is indeed on course to come out in 2010 from Sony. It's official, not bootleg. Which one do you like? On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/ movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
I like the Ironman one. The Wolverine one looks good but its not really marvel. It doesn't look like Marvel at all. It would have been a good moviie by itself. I just got into Baslik by the way. Ninjas vs demons. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.comwrote: Yes. This has been in the works for a year now and is indeed on course to come out in 2010 from Sony. It's official, not bootleg. Which one do you like? On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
Iron Man seems to be the general consensus. Personally I hate the music, but the animation and mecha design is so tight I can get over it. On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: I like the Ironman one. The Wolverine one looks good but its not really marvel. It doesn't look like Marvel at all. It would have been a good moviie by itself. I just got into Baslik by the way. Ninjas vs demons. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: Yes. This has been in the works for a year now and is indeed on course to come out in 2010 from Sony. It's official, not bootleg. Which one do you like? On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/ movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
Yup! The mecha design is really hard to simulate in cgi. It just doesn't have the same look. Plus I think that Ironman would need 12 coats of laquer on his outfit and a few upgrades. :) Also the camera movement is pretty much above and beyond anything being done in american film. The exception would be Crank 2. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.comwrote: Iron Man seems to be the general consensus. Personally I hate the music, but the animation and mecha design is so tight I can get over it. On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: I like the Ironman one. The Wolverine one looks good but its not really marvel. It doesn't look like Marvel at all. It would have been a good moviie by itself. I just got into Baslik by the way. Ninjas vs demons. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: Yes. This has been in the works for a year now and is indeed on course to come out in 2010 from Sony. It's official, not bootleg. Which one do you like? On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
Actually there are a lot of good films out there that could teach people to appreciate plotting. The only problem is they don't get the press. Indie films, little theatre chains, IFC on cable, TCM for old classic movies--it's all there. What we need to do is teach people to seek out the fare that's out there - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:04:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that there is a large part of the audience that doesn't look beyond the cgi. I think that they are trained to do that in this country. (The monster truck, indy500, wrestling set) Outside of that we have everyone else that doesn't mind a nice explosion but want a plot to tie the explosions together. The problem is that there just havent been enough films to really teach american audiences how to watch a film with a plot. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote: That is not a bad idea, but this generation is more interested in computer graphics then a real good story line. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Whenever H'Wood remakes something, some moe-ronic person will say that it's being done for this/the next generation to appreciate. Why not sit the generation in question down and show them the *original*? Allow them to appreciate *it*? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Date : Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:05:07 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You think that is bad? They are starting to make fairy tales over now. First there is Alice in Wonderland, and they just announced that DiCaprio is making Little red riding hood. Hmm I wonder which will be next? Pinocchio or the three little pigs? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: i just don't see the point of remaking the movie, no matter who's in the lead. Lord I wish H'wood could just leave some properties alone! - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:46:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' http://www.movieline.com/2009/08/were-drawing-closer-to-a-will-smithzoe-saldana-harvey.php Predictions We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana Harvey Written by Kyle Buchanan | 05 Aug 2009 Variety announced today that Tom Hanks has decided not to star in Steven Spielberg’s remake of Harvey, avoiding exactly the kind of unwinnable and unimaginative comparisons to Jimmy Stewart that we warned him against. So what’s next for the project? We can guess! At this point, it seems utterly inevitable that Spielberg will tap Will Smith to star - after all, the actor was in the mix when the project was first announced, and his shooting schedule is completely clear in 2010. Without pressing sequel commitments and with most of his star vehicles still in development (including a Spielberg-helmed redo of Oldboy), Smith would appear to have this one sewn up. And while we’re making predictions, here’s another: If Smith gets the nod, expect Zoe Saldana to be cast as his skeptical sister. She’s worked with Spielberg before on The Terminal, she’ll be coming off a stellar 2009, and she’s got no projects set with a definite date next year (since the Star Trek sequel is still in the planning stages). I’m still willing to be surprised, but methinks you don’t remake Harvey if you’re intent on throwing audiences for a loop. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds People may lie, but the evidence rarely does. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
I don't recall the Life Spark from the original 'toon or the movie with Unicrom. I thought there was another race called the Quintessons (sp?) that created the early Autobots and Decepticons. Even if the Spark was there, was it treated this way? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:35:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
You sure you aren't thinking of the Matrix of Leadership? Im not a Transformers expert. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 8:07:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I agree. I remember mention of the all spark in the original series. There was an episode or two that talked about it. I think Optimus or another character touched it or something like that. Anyone remember that? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?amp;OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
Let me drop an e-mail I sent way back in March. I *love* ExoSquad, watched it from Day One, and was so impressed that there was an intelligent, adult-oriented cartoon back then that was American made. I don't think it's ever been officially released on a tape or DVD, but I purchased a homemade DVD off eBay, from someone who'd copied all the shows to tape, then transfered to DVD. Great show, great show! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:21:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I agree brunettes are sexier than blondes by far but dems da breaks... I think GM and Ebay help fund the film. Product placement. It used to be subtle now a lot of it is blatant commercials in the film. They might as well stop the action and do a commercial. Something like, I'm calling 911 on my new Nokia phone! Let's chase the bad guys in my new CHEVORLET CAMERO! Speaking of Exosuits, there was a cartoon that came out in the 90s that featured people from earth using exosuits in space fighting terrorists and the suits were becoming sentient after 2 years of use with a human. Do you remember that one? I would pay good money for a live action/cgi version of robotech! On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@... wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf
Here you go, I posted this back in March. As I said in the G.I. Joe post, I've never found ExoSquad in an official DVD set. My DVD is homemade via eBay, but it is online... keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote Wow, this is pretty cool! Frustrated at having missed back-to-back eps of Legend of the Seeker yesterday, I went to the series' website to watch it online. As I clicked on one of the eps, I noticed that it was a Hulu feed. Hulu, perhaps you've heard of it? :) I haven't done much with it past glancing at a few things. Not currently owning a nice widescreen computer monitor or flatscreen TV, I never much saw the need to watch programs on my 14 laptop screen. But I have to admit, the speed with which Seeker streamed surprised me. And the clarity--wow! Even on my old IBM T42 laptop running pokey WinXP, the picture looked great. Intrigued, i then navigated to the Hulu website. Wow. One reason I haven't been as much of a You Tube nut as some people--such as my brother, who's always on me for not watching movies there--is that a lot of the stuff on You Tube is not all that great quality. I especially hate going full screen with an animated clip, only to get a pixelated, blurry image. Other sites like Apple have great looking trailers, but sometimes the download speed is a bit slow. Hulu impressed me by offering the best of both aspects. I found myself going to the Animation section (of course), and was greeted with a wealth of choices. Too many to mention them all, but not everything I could want (no old Looney Tunes or Popeye, Felix the Cat seems to be the inferiour version from the late 20th Century). But still, enough things to keep me very, very happy. Let me mention just a few things that caught my eye: Exosquad! http://www.hulu.com/exosquad?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The late great cartoon that showed Americans could actually make a good, serious 'toon. Fifty-one eps (a handful are missing). Makes me very, very happy! I will note the quality isn't the greatest--not that it's bad, but the series itself never had the sharpness and beauty of something like Robotech or any other Japanese 'toon. But still, it looks the same on Hulu as I remember it on broadcast TV. If you've never watched this show do yourself a favor and check it out. Rocky and Bullwinkle http://www.hulu.com/rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The classic, satirical 'toon from the '60s, which even includes great stuff like Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman! Haven't seen yet if my fave, Fractured Fairy Tales, is included as well. But with thirteen twenty-two minute eps, I think it must be there. Talk about a blast from the past! Speed Racer http://www.hulu.com/speed-racer?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The Monster Car! The Great Race! The Supersonic Car! All the great, horribly/amusingly dubbed episodes you remember loving as a child. I don't care how many times I see 'em (and I own several), hearing that theme, watching that cool car jump across a chasm or roll along the bottom of a lake, and listening to the characters' hyper speech--it's still great fun! Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids http://www.hulu.com/fat-albert?c=Animation-and-Cartoons This 'toon is like a snowy day in January: too cool for school! And even Bravestarr http://www.hulu.com/bravestarr?c=Animation-and-Cartoons the adventures of Marshall Bravestarr, the Native with animal-based powers who protects the people of the planet New Texas. Like Exosquad and many American-made 'toons of that time, it's not exactly the sharpest, finely detailed cartoon around, but it has nice pastels. And I still get a kick of of Equestroid Thirty-thirty speaking fondly of his beloved gun Sarah Jane! Now, if only they could pick up eps of the awesome 'toon The Real Ghostbusters, Battle of the Planets, and Starblazers, I'd be ecstatic!
RE: [scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf
Netflix rents the first season of EXOSQUAD on DVD From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf Here you go, I posted this back in March. As I said in the G.I. Joe post, I've never found ExoSquad in an official DVD set. My DVD is homemade via eBay, but it is online... keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote Wow, this is pretty cool! Frustrated at having missed back-to-back eps of Legend of the Seeker yesterday, I went to the series' website to watch it online. As I clicked on one of the eps, I noticed that it was a Hulu feed. Hulu, perhaps you've heard of it? :) I haven't done much with it past glancing at a few things. Not currently owning a nice widescreen computer monitor or flatscreen TV, I never much saw the need to watch programs on my 14 laptop screen. But I have to admit, the speed with which Seeker streamed surprised me. And the clarity--wow! Even on my old IBM T42 laptop running pokey WinXP, the picture looked great. Intrigued, i then navigated to the Hulu website. Wow. One reason I haven't been as much of a You Tube nut as some people--such as my brother, who's always on me for not watching movies there--is that a lot of the stuff on You Tube is not all that great quality. I especially hate going full screen with an animated clip, only to get a pixelated, blurry image. Other sites like Apple have great looking trailers, but sometimes the download speed is a bit slow. Hulu impressed me by offering the best of both aspects. I found myself going to the Animation section (of course), and was greeted with a wealth of choices. Too many to mention them all, but not everything I could want (no old Looney Tunes or Popeye, Felix the Cat seems to be the inferiour version from the late 20th Century). But still, enough things to keep me very, very happy. Let me mention just a few things that caught my eye: Exosquad! http://www.hulu.com/exosquad?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The late great cartoon that showed Americans could actually make a good, serious 'toon. Fifty-one eps (a handful are missing). Makes me very, very happy! I will note the quality isn't the greatest--not that it's bad, but the series itself never had the sharpness and beauty of something like Robotech or any other Japanese 'toon. But still, it looks the same on Hulu as I remember it on broadcast TV. If you've never watched this show do yourself a favor and check it out. Rocky and Bullwinkle http://www.hulu.com/rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The classic, satirical 'toon from the '60s, which even includes great stuff like Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman! Haven't seen yet if my fave, Fractured Fairy Tales, is included as well. But with thirteen twenty-two minute eps, I think it must be there. Talk about a blast from the past! Speed Racer http://www.hulu.com/speed-racer?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The Monster Car! The Great Race! The Supersonic Car! All the great, horribly/amusingly dubbed episodes you remember loving as a child. I don't care how many times I see 'em (and I own several), hearing that theme, watching that cool car jump across a chasm or roll along the bottom of a lake, and listening to the characters' hyper speech--it's still great fun! Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids http://www.hulu.com/fat-albert?c=Animation-and-Cartoons This 'toon is like a snowy day in January: too cool for school! And even Bravestarr http://www.hulu.com/bravestarr?c=Animation-and-Cartoons the adventures of Marshall Bravestarr, the Native with animal-based powers who protects the people of the planet New Texas. Like Exosquad and many American-made 'toons of that time, it's not exactly the sharpest, finely detailed cartoon around, but it has nice pastels. And I still get a kick of of Equestroid Thirty-thirty speaking fondly of his beloved gun Sarah Jane! Now, if only they could pick up eps of the awesome 'toon The Real Ghostbusters, Battle of the Planets, and Starblazers, I'd be ecstatic!
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
It was called a creation matrix in the original series. I remember seeing a flashback episode where they were on cybertron and it was down in the basement. Here is some more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Matrix On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I don't recall the Life Spark from the original 'toon or the movie with Unicrom. I thought there was another race called the Quintessons (sp?) that created the early Autobots and Decepticons. Even if the Spark was there, was it treated this way? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:35:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics *Date : *Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) *From : *Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net *To : *scifino...@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf
Thanks for the link! I couldn't remember the correct name for some reason. I missed some episodes of the show. TV stations seem to play fast and loose with episodes sometimes. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Here you go, I posted this back in March. As I said in the G.I. Joe post, I've never found ExoSquad in an official DVD set. My DVD is homemade via eBay, but it is online... keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote Wow, this is pretty cool! Frustrated at having missed back-to-back eps of Legend of the Seeker yesterday, I went to the series' website to watch it online. As I clicked on one of the eps, I noticed that it was a Hulu feed. Hulu, perhaps you've heard of it? :) I haven't done much with it past glancing at a few things. Not currently owning a nice widescreen computer monitor or flatscreen TV, I never much saw the need to watch programs on my 14 laptop screen. But I have to admit, the speed with which Seeker streamed surprised me. And the clarity--wow! Even on my old IBM T42 laptop running pokey WinXP, the picture looked great. Intrigued, i then navigated to the Hulu website. Wow. One reason I haven't been as much of a You Tube nut as some people--such as my brother, who's always on me for not watching movies there--is that a lot of the stuff on You Tube is not all that great quality. I especially hate going full screen with an animated clip, only to get a pixelated, blurry image. Other sites like Apple have great looking trailers, but sometimes the download speed is a bit slow. Hulu impressed me by offering the best of both aspects. I found myself going to the Animation section (of course), and was greeted with a wealth of choices. Too many to mention them all, but not everything I could want (no old Looney Tunes or Popeye, Felix the Cat seems to be the inferiour version from the late 20th Century). But still, enough things to keep me very, very happy. Let me mention just a few things that caught my eye: Exosquad! http://www.hulu.com/exosquad?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The late great cartoon that showed Americans could actually make a good, serious 'toon. Fifty-one eps (a handful are missing). Makes me very, very happy! I will note the quality isn't the greatest--not that it's bad, but the series itself never had the sharpness and beauty of something like Robotech or any other Japanese 'toon. But still, it looks the same on Hulu as I remember it on broadcast TV. If you've never watched this show do yourself a favor and check it out. Rocky and Bullwinkle http://www.hulu.com/rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The classic, satirical 'toon from the '60s, which even includes great stuff like Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman! Haven't seen yet if my fave, Fractured Fairy Tales, is included as well. But with thirteen twenty-two minute eps, I think it must be there. Talk about a blast from the past! Speed Racer http://www.hulu.com/speed-racer?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The Monster Car! The Great Race! The Supersonic Car! All the great, horribly/amusingly dubbed episodes you remember loving as a child. I don't care how many times I see 'em (and I own several), hearing that theme, watching that cool car jump across a chasm or roll along the bottom of a lake, and listening to the characters' hyper speech--it's still great fun! Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids http://www.hulu.com/fat-albert?c=Animation-and-Cartoons This 'toon is like a snowy day in January: too cool for school! And even Bravestarr http://www.hulu.com/bravestarr?c=Animation-and-Cartoons the adventures of Marshall Bravestarr, the Native with animal-based powers who protects the people of the planet New Texas. Like Exosquad and many American-made 'toons of that time, it's not exactly the sharpest, finely detailed cartoon around, but it has nice pastels. And I still get a kick of of Equestroid Thirty-thirty speaking fondly of his beloved gun Sarah Jane! Now, if only they could pick up eps of the awesome 'toon The Real Ghostbusters, Battle of the Planets, and Starblazers, I'd be ecstatic! -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
I agree, but I think that it may take a re-education on a national level. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Actually there are a lot of good films out there that could teach people to appreciate plotting. The only problem is they don't get the press. Indie films, little theatre chains, IFC on cable, TCM for old classic movies--it's all there. What we need to do is teach people to seek out the fare that's out there - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:04:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that there is a large part of the audience that doesn't look beyond the cgi. I think that they are trained to do that in this country. (The monster truck, indy500, wrestling set) Outside of that we have everyone else that doesn't mind a nice explosion but want a plot to tie the explosions together. The problem is that there just havent been enough films to really teach american audiences how to watch a film with a plot. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote: *That is not a bad idea, but this generation is more interested in computer graphics then a real good story line.* *--Lavender* *From:* Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:40 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Whenever H'Wood remakes something, some moe-ronic person will say that it's being done for this/the next generation to appreciate. Why not sit the generation in question down and show them the *original*? Allow them to appreciate *it*? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' *Date : *Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:05:07 -0700 *From : *Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *To : *scifino...@yahoogroups.com You think that is bad? They are starting to make fairy tales over now. First there is Alice in Wonderland, and they just announced that DiCaprio is making Little red riding hood. Hmm I wonder which will be next? Pinocchio or the three little pigs? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: i just don't see the point of remaking the movie, no matter who's in the lead. Lord I wish H'wood could just leave some properties alone! - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:46:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' http://www.movieline.com/2009/08/were-drawing-closer-to-a-will-smithzoe-saldana-harvey.php Predictions We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana Harvey Written by Kyle Buchanan | 05 Aug 2009 Variety announced today that Tom Hanks has decided not to star in Steven Spielberg’s remake of Harvey, avoiding exactly the kind of unwinnable and unimaginative comparisons to Jimmy Stewart that we warned him against. So what’s next for the project? We can guess! At this point, it seems utterly inevitable that Spielberg will tap Will Smith to star - after all, the actor was in the mix when the project was first announced, and his shooting schedule is completely clear in 2010. Without pressing sequel commitments and with most of his star vehicles still in development (including a Spielberg-helmed redo of Oldboy), Smith would appear to have this one sewn up. And while we’re making predictions, here’s another: If Smith gets the nod, expect Zoe Saldana to be cast as his skeptical sister. She’s worked with Spielberg before on The Terminal, she’ll be coming off a stellar 2009, and she’s got no projects set with a definite date next year (since the Star Trek sequel is still in the planning stages). I’m still willing to be surprised, but methinks you don’t remake Harvey if you’re intent on throwing audiences for a loop. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds *People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.* ** -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
