Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
Yeah, and for the record, I know that G-Force is the Americanized name of the Gatchaman team, based on the Americanized, watered-down Battle of the Planets, which differs in major ways from the original Japanese anime. For example, Seven-Zark-Seven was created for the Americanized version in order to pad out the length, after all the objectionable, more adult Japanese stuff was cut. And I think even aspects of Keeops (sp?) were changed as well. The comic that was released in the last couple of years was pretty good... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:18:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, you're *not* alone there. In another of my forums, a fellow anime fan posted a link to what he thought was a trailer for the new G-Force movie, apparently without looking at the trailer. I was the first in the group to watch it, and seeing talking hamsters was a shock to the system. (For the record, there *is* an anime Gatchaman movie rolling out soon. There are some cool pics previewed at io9, but the site appears to be on vacation, so I can't link to them. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:39:41 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So that means i'm the only one who keeps thinking the movie G-Force should be about a bunch of teens with winged birdlike costumes who can fly and have wild weapons and a cool airship/spaceship? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy
I agree with you on that. As I just posted, people are too quick to proclaim Murphy's career dead. He might not be doing Beverly Hills Cop dollars, but he's still working. And to hear you say that you can take your child to a movie of his and enjoy it is good stuff to me. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:36:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy Rave, i see where the article is going, but i disagree with the last movie being a flop. imagine that might not have made a ton of money, but my daughter and i truly enjoyed it. she is waiting on the dvd. made me take her 2 see it twice. Fate. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:22 AM http://www.nytimes. com/2009/ 06/25/movies/ 25eddie.html June 25, 2009 Despite Flops, Studios Want Eddie Murphy By BROOKS BARNES LOS ANGELES — If Eddie Murphy's career were an injured horse, it would be shot and the carcass buried in the remotest part of the desert to ensure no one ever stumbled upon it. That harsh sentence, written on June 12 by Rick Bentley in The Fresno Bee in California, is as good an example as any of the prevailing sentiment about Mr. Murphy these days. With two big flops in a row (Imagine That and Meet Dave), another risky project on the way (A Thousand Words) and a diva reputation, people seem to be confused. Why does Hollywood keep hiring this man? The answer — multifaceted but almost universally agreed upon by moviedom's power players — offers insights into how the gears of the modern motion picture business grind. Mr. Murphy is still considered Hollywood royalty, if no longer a member of the A-list then the solid B-plus. One reason is that, contrary to conventional wisdom, studios have long memories. People who prophesied that his career was over in 2002 with The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which cost about $100 million to make but only sold about $7 million worldwide in tickets, looked awfully foolish when Norbit arrived five years later. It cost about $60 million and featured him in a fat suit, sold $159 million worldwide in tickets and was a smash on DVD. He is explosive, given the right project, the right circumstances, the right concept, the right director, said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the chief executive of DreamWorks Animation and a friend. What of the notion that Mr. Murphy has lost his movie mojo? Absolute nonsense, Mr. Katzenberg said. Mr. Murphy, 48, is one of a declining number of actors whose name alone can get a movie made. While studios are increasingly balking at paying top dollar for brand-name actors — and Mr. Murphy still asks for $20 million a picture and a cut of the gross — they still want to be in business with them because they believe it lessens their risk. The challenge with Eddie is that you have to put his brand on the right tin can, said the consultant James Ulmer, who compiles the biannual report The Ulmer Scale, which rates the global bankability of actors. His audiences are very straitjacketed in their expectations of him, and by that I mostly mean fat suit, fat suit, fat suit. In addition Mr. Murphy's name is a marketing hook on a DVD, and he remains one of the few American comedians who can deliver results overseas. Hollywood understands that big-time comedy careers are often volatile. Plot the box office runs of Will Ferrell and Mike Myers against those of dramatic stars like Will Smith and Tom Cruise, and the comedians' are all over the map. Because comedies tend to be easier to film (if not to perform), those players are at bat more often, and so a few misses are considered normal. That's not to say Mr. Murphy isn't paying a price for his track record. Paramount recently rejected a biopic about Richard Pryor that had Mr. Murphy attached to star. The studio's plans for a fourth Beverly Hills Cop are also stalled. Web sites like Studio System (studiosystem. com) that track movie projects list a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man as one of his next films, but Universal Pictures put that project on the back burner more than a year ago (around the time Meet Dave tanked). Arnold Robinson, Mr. Murphy's publicist, said he would not trouble his client with an interview request from a newspaper. Mr. Murphy does not do print interviews, he said in an e-mail, adding, For his age and body of work there are only one or two other actors that can compare to his career box office numbers. Mr. Murphy has other potential projects floating around — a third Nutty Professor is in development at Universal — and he has a guaranteed hit next spring in DreamWorks' Shrek Forever After, in which
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics
Like i thought, Matrix of Leadership is tied up in there too. I just didn't like the movie rendition of it--but i guess I just didn't like the movie that much. I'm starting to worry about writers Orci and Kurtman. I find their stuff to be okay, serviceable even, but not exactly intelligent. Transformers 1 was juvenile, they do crap like put racist stereotypes in Transformers 2, and I still contend their take on Star Trek was too much of a Star Wars imitation aimed at drawing in kids and non fans. They get a lot of work, but I'm not seeing them exactly on the level of the Roddenberry's, JMS's, or Harlan Ellisons of the world. Are they the new Braga and Berman of the scifi movie writing world? if so, i fear for truly intelligent, well thought out scifi movies - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:20:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics It was called a creation matrix in the original series. I remember seeing a flashback episode where they were on cybertron and it was down in the basement. Here is some more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Matrix On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I don't recall the Life Spark from the original 'toon or the movie with Unicrom. I thought there was another race called the Quintessons (sp?) that created the early Autobots and Decepticons. Even if the Spark was there, was it treated this way? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:35:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Keith, from what little I know of Transformers lore, the Spark has always been there, usually considered to mean life or soul within a Transformer. Twisting it that way? Blame H'Wood again. I do. And I am LMNAO @ robot porn... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:44:32 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think Transformers just offended me with the first movie. The plot was horrible--since when does a human dopey kid become the best one to protect something while all the robots defend him? Who came up with that idiotic Life Spark crap? Why were GM and ebay in my face every five seconds. The humour was juvenile and puerile, and it just left me cold. robot porn indeed. But for some reason the action/CGI heavy, brain-on-hold look of GI Joe is more appealing to me. Maybe anything not directed by hack Bay gets a pass. Maybe the action, for all its hype--dig those exosuits!--still seems less frenetic than the Transformers. don't know , but looking forward to it. And I must say, I'm amazed what black hair and a leather costume do for Sienna Miller, who I've always just thought was okay. But in that Baroness getup--wow! I never did get the American fascination for blondes over brunettes. The latter are endlessly more fascinating, sultry, and alluring! :) - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:48:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics I was a little off put by the casting but the action sequences look kind of cool. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'm actually more interested in seeing it than the lastest Transformers movie... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 9:14:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Some of the reviewers at CHUD and Ain't It Cool News got to see it and liked it alot. Sounds like a fun popcorn movie that never tries to be any more than that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Still going to see it ... :-D Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@... Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:57:12 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] G.I. Joe is AWOL for critics Last time I saw this stunt pulled, it was because the movie was so bad that, in the opinion of one critic, it never should have been released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090804/en_nm/us_gijoe_1
[scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9 , a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the subtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box office—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line between ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish-like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose, mostly docile and apparently of little use to humanity. So we warehouse them—in District 9. Then, we decide to forcibly move them to a different, shoddier, interment camp. While other nations are far from guiltless of such cruelties, the emphasis here is on the South African history. Still, the structures the film employs are incisive and direct and, if you’re over 35, they might piss you off. Distributor: Sony Pictures Cast: Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt, Sylvaine Strike, William Allen Young and Robert Hobbs Director: Neill Blomkamp Screenwriters: Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell Producers: Peter Jackson Genre: Science Fiction Rating: Rated R for bloody violence and pervasive language. Running Time: 113 min. Release date: August 14, 2009
Re: [scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf
Yeah, in America we're evidently too stupid to watch serialized TV that requires shows to be watched in order. And the studios like standalone stuff so they can carve up shows and rebroadcast them as they see fit. A prime example in recent years was Star Trek TNG on TNT (or was it Spike TV?) They started having theme weeks: one week would be five shows dealing only with Data, the next week would be a Worf week, then a Riker week, etc. The shows were from all over the seven year run of the series. I found it annoying, but that's what they like. It's another reason DS9 never gets the love it deserves: the studios don't like having to keep it in one slot in reruns, and having to deal with the task of showing the eps in order. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:27:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Exo Squad and other Good Stuff - For Mr. Worf Thanks for the link! I couldn't remember the correct name for some reason. I missed some episodes of the show. TV stations seem to play fast and loose with episodes sometimes. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Here you go, I posted this back in March. As I said in the G.I. Joe post, I've never found ExoSquad in an official DVD set. My DVD is homemade via eBay, but it is online... keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote Wow, this is pretty cool! Frustrated at having missed back-to-back eps of Legend of the Seeker yesterday, I went to the series' website to watch it online. As I clicked on one of the eps, I noticed that it was a Hulu feed. Hulu, perhaps you've heard of it? :) I haven't done much with it past glancing at a few things. Not currently owning a nice widescreen computer monitor or flatscreen TV, I never much saw the need to watch programs on my 14 laptop screen. But I have to admit, the speed with which Seeker streamed surprised me. And the clarity--wow! Even on my old IBM T42 laptop running pokey WinXP, the picture looked great. Intrigued, i then navigated to the Hulu website. Wow. One reason I haven't been as much of a You Tube nut as some people--such as my brother, who's always on me for not watching movies there--is that a lot of the stuff on You Tube is not all that great quality. I especially hate going full screen with an animated clip, only to get a pixelated, blurry image. Other sites like Apple have great looking trailers, but sometimes the download speed is a bit slow. Hulu impressed me by offering the best of both aspects. I found myself going to the Animation section (of course), and was greeted with a wealth of choices. Too many to mention them all, but not everything I could want (no old Looney Tunes or Popeye, Felix the Cat seems to be the inferiour version from the late 20th Century). But still, enough things to keep me very, very happy. Let me mention just a few things that caught my eye: Exosquad! http://www.hulu.com/exosquad?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The late great cartoon that showed Americans could actually make a good, serious 'toon. Fifty-one eps (a handful are missing). Makes me very, very happy! I will note the quality isn't the greatest--not that it's bad, but the series itself never had the sharpness and beauty of something like Robotech or any other Japanese 'toon. But still, it looks the same on Hulu as I remember it on broadcast TV. If you've never watched this show do yourself a favor and check it out. Rocky and Bullwinkle http://www.hulu.com/rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The classic, satirical 'toon from the '60s, which even includes great stuff like Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman! Haven't seen yet if my fave, Fractured Fairy Tales, is included as well. But with thirteen twenty-two minute eps, I think it must be there. Talk about a blast from the past! Speed Racer http://www.hulu.com/speed-racer?c=Animation-and-Cartoons The Monster Car! The Great Race! The Supersonic Car! All the great, horribly/amusingly dubbed episodes you remember loving as a child. I don't care how many times I see 'em (and I own several), hearing that theme, watching that cool car jump across a chasm or roll along the bottom of a lake, and listening to the characters' hyper speech--it's still great fun! Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids http://www.hulu.com/fat-albert?c=Animation-and-Cartoons This 'toon is like a snowy day in January: too cool for school! And even Bravestarr http://www.hulu.com/bravestarr?c=Animation-and-Cartoons the adventures of Marshall Bravestarr, the Native with animal-based powers who protects the people of the planet New Texas. Like Exosquad and many American-made 'toons of that time, it's not exactly the sharpest, finely detailed cartoon around, but it has nice pastels. And I still get a kick of of Equestroid
Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
It takes parents to start teaching their kids to appreciate quality. it takes friends to take friends to see something they'd not otherwise see. It takes couples doing something like taking one night a week, or one week a month, where they see something they'd not otherwise see, whether that's watching a silent flick on Turner Classics, an original version of something they've only seen in remakes (such as The Day the Earth Stood still), or brazing the theatres to see a foreign film with subtitles. What I find most interesting is that, while America churns out a lot of low brow crap that's too focused on CGI, sex, and violence lacking in cleverness (not like a John Woo flick) the creators of such aren't always really idiots. Sure, we have the hacks like Michael Bay, who I contend is just an awful director. But we have a lot of directors who are always talking about good film, who in interviews speak of the influence of the masters like Bergman, Kurosawa. in the animation world, for example, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person at Disney, Pixar, or Dreamworks who doesn't worship the work of Miyazaki. Even when they're putting out easy fare like Madagascar or Shrek 3, they still know quality when they see it. So, is the tail wagging the dog, or the other way 'round? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:35:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I agree, but I think that it may take a re-education on a national level. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Actually there are a lot of good films out there that could teach people to appreciate plotting. The only problem is they don't get the press. Indie films, little theatre chains, IFC on cable, TCM for old classic movies--it's all there. What we need to do is teach people to seek out the fare that's out there - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:04:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that there is a large part of the audience that doesn't look beyond the cgi. I think that they are trained to do that in this country. (The monster truck, indy500, wrestling set) Outside of that we have everyone else that doesn't mind a nice explosion but want a plot to tie the explosions together. The problem is that there just havent been enough films to really teach american audiences how to watch a film with a plot. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote: That is not a bad idea, but this generation is more interested in computer graphics then a real good story line. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Whenever H'Wood remakes something, some moe-ronic person will say that it's being done for this/the next generation to appreciate. Why not sit the generation in question down and show them the *original*? Allow them to appreciate *it*? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' Date : Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:05:07 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You think that is bad? They are starting to make fairy tales over now. First there is Alice in Wonderland, and they just announced that DiCaprio is making Little red riding hood. Hmm I wonder which will be next? Pinocchio or the three little pigs? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: i just don't see the point of remaking the movie, no matter who's in the lead. Lord I wish H'wood could just leave some properties alone! - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 2:46:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' http://www.movieline.com/2009/08/were-drawing-closer-to-a-will-smithzoe-saldana-harvey.php Predictions We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana Harvey Written by Kyle Buchanan | 05 Aug 2009 Variety announced today that Tom Hanks has decided not to star in Steven Spielberg’s remake of Harvey, avoiding exactly the kind of unwinnable and unimaginative comparisons to Jimmy Stewart that we warned him against. So what’s next for the project? We can guess! At this point, it seems utterly inevitable that Spielberg will tap Will Smith to star - after all, the actor was in the mix
Re: [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
ahar...@earthlink.net This is so totally on my must-see list! Cheers! Amy The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9, a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the subtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box office—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line between ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish-like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose, mostly docile and apparently of little use to humanity. So we warehouse them—in District 9. Then, we decide to forcibly move them to a different, shoddier, interment camp. While other nations are far from guiltless of such cruelties, the emphasis here is on the South African history. Still, the structures the film employs are incisive and direct and, if you’re over 35, they might piss you off. Distributor: Sony Pictures Cast: Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt, Sylvaine Strike, William Allen Young and Robert Hobbs Director: Neill Blomkamp Screenwriters: Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell Producers: Peter Jackson Genre: Science Fiction Rating: Rated R for bloody violence and pervasive language. Running Time: 113 min. Release date: August 14, 2009 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2287 - Release Date: 08/07/09 06:22:00
[RE][scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
Keith, I'm hyped for it as well. I've been avoiding any websites that hawk it in anyway, primarily because of my aversion to critics. All but one person I've spoken to regarding it are keen to see it as well. (That one refers to it as an 'Alien Nation' ripoff.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:55:00 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9 , a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the subte! xt is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box office—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are tol! d are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line between ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish-like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose, mostly docile and apparently of little use to humanity. So we warehouse them—in District 9. Then, we decide to forcibly move them to a different, shoddier, interment camp. While other nations are far from guiltless of such cruelties, the emphasis here is on the South African history. Still, the structures the film employs are incisive and direct and, if you’re over 35, they might piss you off. Distributor: Sony Pictures Cast: Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt, Sylvaine Strike, William Allen Young and Robert Hobbs Director: Neill Blomkamp Screenwriters: Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell Producers: Peter Jackson Genre: Science Fiction Rating: Rated R for bloody violence and pervasive language. Running Time: 113 min. Release date: August 14, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who
Mr Worf, To the best of my knowledge, the only American influence on the series was that one Fox movie back when with Paul McGann. Interestingly, for quite some time after that, the Beeb refused to acknowledge the existence of that movie. On the official DW page on the Beeb's site, McGann wasn't even named. Some fans will still become irate at the mention of him. The ebst explanation out these is that the Fox movie had McGann's Doctor telling one of his companions, I'm half-human. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:42:47 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I am not a super Dr. Who fan but someone asked if there was a US version of the show. I haven't found any info on that yet. There were some that were financed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company in the late 70s. They also re-aired the show for a LONG time. I found some interesting info about the show here: wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who There was also a tidbit about the BBC systematically erasing shows to recycle tape! G!!! Crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
Keith, the guy who posted the link there is *very* new to anime (he'd just taken in Akira for the first time earlier this year), and only knew it as G-Force. One of my godchildren, born and raised in England, went to Japan when his parents were posted there, and had his world rocked when he first saw Gatchaman as Deity intended. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:28:34 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Yeah, and for the record, I know that G-Force is the Americanized name of the Gatchaman team, based on the Americanized, watered-down Battle of the Planets, which differs in major ways from the original Japanese anime. For example, Seven-Zark-Seven was created for the Americanized version in order to pad out the length, after all the objectionable, more adult Japanese stuff was cut. And I think even aspects of Keeops (sp?) were changed as well. The comic that was released in the last couple of years was pretty good... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:18:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, you're *not* alone there. In another of my forums, a fellow anime fan posted a link to what he thought was a trailer for the new G-Force movie, apparently without looking at the trailer. I was the first in the group to watch it, and seeing talking hamsters was a shock to the system. (For the record, there *is* an anime Gatchaman movie rolling out soon. There are some cool pics previewed at io9, but the site appears to be on vacation, so I can't link to them. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:39:41 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So that means i'm the only one who keeps thinking the movie G-Force should be about a bunch of teens with winged birdlike costumes who can fly and have wild weapons and a cool airship/spaceship? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
I'd prefer Iron Man, only because I'm a Shellhead fan more than I am of the Canuck. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae? Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:21:18 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who
No, and thank the gods there isn't. The US would wreck anything good and decent about it. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a super Dr. Who fan but someone asked if there was a US version of the show. I haven't found any info on that yet. There were some that were financed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company in the late 70s. They also re-aired the show for a LONG time. I found some interesting info about the show here: wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who There was also a tidbit about the BBC systematically erasing shows to recycle tape! G!!! Crazy
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon| Fictionwise| Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who
I could see an American producer tossing in a hip-hop flavored DW ep. (runs from keyboard, howling) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:21:12 -0400 From : Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com No, and thank the gods there isn't. The US would wreck anything good and decent about it. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: I am not a super Dr. Who fan but someone asked if there was a US version of the show. I haven't found any info on that yet. There were some that were financed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company in the late 70s. They also re-aired the show for a LONG time. I found some interesting info about the show here: wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who There was also a tidbit about the BBC systematically erasing shows to recycle tape! G!!! Crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
I’m psyched about it too. This has been one of the most disappointing summer movie seasons in years From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harlib Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:23 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 ahar...@earthlink.net This is so totally on my must-see list! Cheers! Amy The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9, a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the subtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box office—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line between ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish-like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose, mostly docile and apparently of little use to humanity. So we warehouse them—in District 9. Then, we decide to forcibly move them to a different, shoddier, interment camp. While other nations are far from guiltless of such cruelties, the emphasis here is on the South African history. Still, the structures the film employs are incisive and direct and, if you’re over 35, they might piss you off. Distributor: Sony Pictures Cast: Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt, Sylvaine Strike, William Allen Young and Robert Hobbs Director: Neill Blomkamp Screenwriters: Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell Producers: Peter Jackson Genre: Science Fiction Rating: Rated R for bloody violence and pervasive language. Running Time: 113 min. Release date: August 14, 2009 _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2287 - Release Date: 08/07/09 06:22:00
Re: [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
I LOVED this movie season!! Between Star Trek, Up, Moon, and a couple of other smaller films, this has been great! I didn't expect much from the big movies, they've been letting me down for years. On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I’m psyched about it too. This has been one of the most disappointi ng summer movie seasons in years From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Amy Harlib Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 3:23 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 ahar...@earthlink.net This is so totally on my must-see list! Cheers! Amy The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** *** * http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9, a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the subtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever market ing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box offic e—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here f or filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by pu tting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. W hen all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. L ovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on comme rcials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special eff ects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effe cts film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effec ts and the aliens themselves (which we are told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line betw een ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish- like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose, mostly docile and apparently of little use to humanity. So we warehouse them—in District 9. Then, we decide to forcibly move th em to a different, shoddier, interment camp. While other nations are far from guiltless of such cruelties, the emphasis here is on the South African history. Still, the structures the film employs are incisive and direct and, if you’re over 35, the y might piss you off. Distributor: Sony Pictures Cast: Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, Nathalie Boltt, Sylvaine Strike, William Allen Young and Robert Hobbs Director: Neill Blomkamp Screenwriters: Neill Blomkamp and Terri
Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
Amen, amen! All you hear is studios worried about demographics (hence, a forgettable run by Halle Berry as Storm, when everyone knows Angela Bassett would have nailed the role) instead of quality. And i have long been puzzled and irritated by the thing you mentioned, where sex and violence in appalling or appallingly impersonal measure gets approved -some scenes in Crank or the Eli Roth torture porn films come to mind. Yet intimate sexual scenes that might show some genetalia in a tasteful and even understanding manner get labeled NC-17. Even on Syfy early this morning (3 am) I saw the beginning of some ghost/slasher flick with Casper van Diem and perennial tough guy actor Michael Rooker. The bad guy impaled, slashed, and cut up three people in teh first five minutes. Blood splaying everywhere, body parts dropping. Yet it's on TV! In the theatres, that's an R and kids get in all the time. Yet let there be ten *seconds* of an intimate love scene between a married couple in a film, and the thing's verbote, advisories go out all over the place, and conservatives are decrying the fall of Western civilization. And now with The Hangover, the teen-sex thing will be back, with copious and gratuitous nude scenes, and no one will care. Crazy... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:22:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that is where the studio's influences come into play when they are viewing the rushes. Some of the films that I have watched that have that part of their development documented on video often have changes made to the film that delete key parts of the movie that may have taken into a deeper direction. Another thing that bugs me is that the MPAA will often approve gore and sex scenes in movies if there isn't a happy ending with the characters, or an unhealthy relationship, but if there is a healthy sexual relationship that often ends up on the cutting room floor. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It takes parents to start teaching their kids to appreciate quality. it takes friends to take friends to see something they'd not otherwise see. It takes couples doing something like taking one night a week, or one week a month, where they see something they'd not otherwise see, whether that's watching a silent flick on Turner Classics, an original version of something they've only seen in remakes (such as The Day the Earth Stood still), or brazing the theatres to see a foreign film with subtitles. What I find most interesting is that, while America churns out a lot of low brow crap that's too focused on CGI, sex, and violence lacking in cleverness (not like a John Woo flick) the creators of such aren't always really idiots. Sure, we have the hacks like Michael Bay, who I contend is just an awful director. But we have a lot of directors who are always talking about good film, who in interviews speak of the influence of the masters like Bergman, Kurosawa. in the animation world, for example, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person at Disney, Pixar, or Dreamworks who doesn't worship the work of Miyazaki. Even when they're putting out easy fare like Madagascar or Shrek 3, they still know quality when they see it. So, is the tail wagging the dog, or the other way 'round? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:35:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I agree, but I think that it may take a re-education on a national level. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Actually there are a lot of good films out there that could teach people to appreciate plotting. The only problem is they don't get the press. Indie films, little theatre chains, IFC on cable, TCM for old classic movies--it's all there. What we need to do is teach people to seek out the fare that's out there - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:04:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that there is a large part of the audience that doesn't look beyond the cgi. I think that they are trained to do that in this country. (The monster truck, indy500, wrestling set) Outside of that we have everyone else that doesn't mind a nice explosion but want a plot to tie the explosions together. The problem is that there just havent been enough films to really teach american audiences how to watch a film with a
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
I can see how some would think of Alien Nation, V, even Independence Day (the shape of the ship), but that means nothing. Some concepts in scifi are simply not new: the idea of aliens coming to Earth and then being ghettoized isn't. But it's the treatment, the new way the story's told, the committment to intelligent writing and acting, the unique spin of the director and producer and actors, that makes all the difference. Peter Jackson doesn't like to support crappy fare that's devoid of something for the grey matter, so I'm more excited about this than I am, say, the American remake of V that's being discussed. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:51:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 Keith, I'm hyped for it as well. I've been avoiding any websites that hawk it in anyway, primarily because of my aversion to critics. All but one person I've spoken to regarding it are keen to see it as well. (That one refers to it as an 'Alien Nation' ripoff.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:55:00 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9 , a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though it’s an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the s! ubtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box office—especially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. There’s little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jackson’s company was employed for the effects) they’ve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are! told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is pitch perfect, delicately straddling the line between ordinary Afrikaans racist and empathic hero. The narrative of District 9 revolves around a giant alien spacecraft that came to rest above downtown Johannesburg, South Africa, some 20 years before the story began. Inhabited by one million crawfish-like, cat food and raw meat eating, humanoid aliens, little can be discerned about where the ship came from or who the creatures are. They are simply here. They are strong but without direction or purpose,
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
I've never seen the original Gatchaman, but along with the original versions of Starblazers and Speed Racer, that's not unusual for an American viewer... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, the guy who posted the link there is *very* new to anime (he'd just taken in Akira for the first time earlier this year), and only knew it as G-Force. One of my godchildren, born and raised in England, went to Japan when his parents were posted there, and had his world rocked when he first saw Gatchaman as Deity intended. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:28:34 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Yeah, and for the record, I know that G-Force is the Americanized name of the Gatchaman team, based on the Americanized, watered-down Battle of the Planets, which differs in major ways from the original Japanese anime. For example, Seven-Zark-Seven was created for the Americanized version in order to pad out the length, after all the objectionable, more adult Japanese stuff was cut. And I think even aspects of Keeops (sp?) were changed as well. The comic that was released in the last couple of years was pretty good... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:18:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, you're *not* alone there. In another of my forums, a fellow anime fan posted a link to what he thought was a trailer for the new G-Force movie, apparently without looking at the trailer. I was the first in the group to watch it, and seeing talking hamsters was a shock to the system. (For the record, there *is* an anime Gatchaman movie rolling out soon. There are some cool pics previewed at io9, but the site appears to be on vacation, so I can't link to them. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:39:41 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So that means i'm the only one who keeps thinking the movie G-Force should be about a bunch of teens with winged birdlike costumes who can fly and have wild weapons and a cool airship/spaceship? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I second that! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:22:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon| Fictionwise| Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] 1 Reason Not to Mess With Children...
Well... A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small. The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale.. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible. The little girl said, 'When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah'. The teacher asked, 'What if Jonah went to hell?' The little girl replied, 'Then you ask him'
[RE][scifinoir2] 1 Reason Not to Mess With Children...
(would run outside to scream in delight, but Hartsfield, 29 miles away, would complain about the noise pollution) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] 1 Reason Not to Mess With Children... Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:55 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well... A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small. The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale.. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible. The little girl said, 'When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah'. The teacher asked, 'What if Jonah went to hell?' The little girl replied, 'Then you ask him' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe
I have seen the original versions of Gatchaman and Starblazers, thanks to some long-gone anime-stockpile website. It went kaput as I was halfway through my second viewing of Coyote Ragtime Show. Never could get into the Speed Racer block, because the server handling that one alone was always jammed t the walls. Says something about the quality of the show, doesn't it? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:38:15 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I've never seen the original Gatchaman, but along with the original versions of Starblazers and Speed Racer, that's not unusual for an American viewer... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:05:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, the guy who posted the link there is *very* new to anime (he'd just taken in Akira for the first time earlier this year), and only knew it as G-Force. One of my godchildren, born and raised in England, went to Japan when his parents were posted there, and had his world rocked when he first saw Gatchaman as Deity intended. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:28:34 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Yeah, and for the record, I know that G-Force is the Americanized name of the Gatchaman team, based on the Americanized, watered-down Battle of the Planets, which differs in major ways from the original Japanese anime. For example, Seven-Zark-Seven was created for the Americanized version in order to pad out the length, after all the objectionable, more adult Japanese stuff was cut. And I think even aspects of Keeops (sp?) were changed as well. The comic that was released in the last couple of years was pretty good... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:18:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Keith, you're *not* alone there. In another of my forums, a fellow anime fan posted a link to what he thought was a trailer for the new G-Force movie, apparently without looking at the trailer. I was the first in the group to watch it, and seeing talking hamsters was a shock to the system. (For the record, there *is* an anime Gatchaman movie rolling out soon. There are some cool pics previewed at io9, but the site appears to be on vacation, so I can't link to them. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:39:41 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com So that means i'm the only one who keeps thinking the movie G-Force should be about a bunch of teens with winged birdlike costumes who can fly and have wild weapons and a cool airship/spaceship? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 1:09:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe That's how it works. If it didn't happen after you were born it doesn't exist. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I'd like to think everyone knew that--but I guess I'll have to settle for people realizing there were toys before the TV cartoon! - Original Message - From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:20:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy. Shoot, the movie The Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic action figures Rocky and Ace. Who knew? ~rave! http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Black Dynamite!
http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ BLACK DYNAMITE 2009, Scott Sanders, USA, 90 min. With Michael Jai White, Kym Whitley Raucous a vastly entertaining film.Rob Nelson, Variety A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, BLACK DYNAMITE mines the best and the worst of the blaxploitation era for a rollicking kick-ass parody of classics including THREE THE HARD WAY, DOLEMITE, and SUPERFLY, with a heaping helping of Bruce Lee thrown in for good measure. With a 44-Magnum, nunchucks, and fists at the ready, babe-magnet Black Dynamite (Jai White), a former CIA agent, ruthlessly works both sides of the law when The Man murders his brother, floods orphanages with heroin, and pours tainted malt liquor into the `hood. 35mm. (BS)
[scifinoir2] Black Harvest International Film Festival
http://www.siskelfilmcenter.org/ 15th Annual Black Harvest International Festival of Film and Video The Gene Siskel Film Center welcomes you to the 15th anniversary edition of the Black Harvest International Festival of Film and Video, from August 7 though September 3. Talent shines brightly through all four weeks of this unique celebration of the black experience on film. We put the spotlight on our own Chicago filmmakers as we continue to highlight adventurous new work from around the nation and around the world.
[RE][scifinoir2] Black Dynamite!
You DAY-um right! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Black Dynamite! Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:01:15 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ BLACK DYNAMITE 2009, Scott Sanders, USA, 90 min. With Michael Jai White, Kym Whitley Raucous a vastly entertaining film.Rob Nelson, Variety A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, BLACK DYNAMITE mines the best and the worst of the blaxploitation era for a rollicking kick-ass parody of classics including THREE THE HARD WAY, DOLEMITE, and SUPERFLY, with a heaping helping of Bruce Lee thrown in for good measure. With a 44-Magnum, nunchucks, and fists at the ready, babe-magnet Black Dynamite (Jai White), a former CIA agent, ruthlessly works both sides of the law when The Man murders his brother, floods orphanages with heroin, and pours tainted malt liquor into the `hood. 35mm. (BS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] The mo better dystopian prophet: Orwell or Huxley?
Wow. After reading this, I changed my vote! ~rave! http://fatpita.net/?i=1952
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Black Dynamite!
Are you trying to say he's a bad mother(shut your mouth!)? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: You DAY-um right! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Black Dynamite! Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:01:15 - From : ravenadal ravena...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ BLACK DYNAMITE 2009, Scott Sanders, USA, 90 min. With Michael Jai White, Kym Whitley Raucous a vastly entertaining film.ÂRob Nelson, Variety A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, BLACK DYNAMITE mines the best and the worst of the blaxploitation era for a rollicking kick-ass parody of classics including THREE THE HARD WAY, DOLEMITE, and SUPERFLY, with a heaping helping of Bruce Lee thrown in for good measure. With a 44-Magnum, nunchucks, and fists at the ready, babe-magnet Black Dynamite (Jai White), a former CIA agent, ruthlessly works both sides of the law when The Man murders his brother, floods orphanages with heroin, and pours tainted malt liquor into the `hood. 35mm. (BS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[RE][scifinoir2] The mo better dystopian prophet: Orwell or Huxley?
That put a couple of new wrinkles in my brain... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] The mo better dystopian prophet: Orwell or Huxley? Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:12:17 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Wow. After reading this, I changed my vote! ~rave! http://fatpita.net/?i=1952 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Black Dynamite!
I'm only talkin' 'bout Black Dynamite! ;-D -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Black Dynamite! Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:13:34 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Are you trying to say he's a bad mother(shut your mouth!)? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: You DAY-um right! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Black Dynamite! Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:01:15 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ BLACK DYNAMITE 2009, Scott Sanders, USA, 90 min. With Michael Jai White, Kym Whitley Raucous a vastly entertaining film.ÂRob Nelson, Variety A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, BLACK DYNAMITE mines the best and the worst of the blaxploitation era for a rollicking kick-ass parody of classics including THREE THE HARD WAY, DOLEMITE, and SUPERFLY, with a heaping helping of Bruce Lee thrown in for good measure. With a 44-Magnum, nunchucks, and fists at the ready, babe-magnet Black Dynamite (Jai White), a former CIA agent, ruthlessly works both sides of the law when The Man murders his brother, floods orphanages with heroin, and pours tainted malt liquor into the `hood. 35mm. (BS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Movie Review: The Rise of Cobra 100% SPOILER FREE
Hey guys, As you know, Rise of Cobra was released yesterday here in the US. I just got in from seeing it today. All I have to say is WOW. The movie was very well done. For the most part, it stayed true to the comic book series. It did have it's campy moments, but they were few and far between while remaining enjoyable at the same time. There were some twists on a few action movie cliches. One bright spot, you didn't have to wait for the action. G.I. Joe shows up pretty early in the movie and brings tonnes of action with them. While I didn't and still don't like the international Special Forces thing, I have to say that it really works. Best of all, for fans of G.I.Joe there were plenty of easter eggs throughout the movie. They really don't contribute to the plot, but your heart skips a beat everytime you see one. It's really kid friendly without being overtly so. There's almost no profanity, although the characters do say sugar honey iced tea a few times but that's about it. ALL of the characters were executed very well. There weren't any that felt like an after thought or filler characters. All in all it was a really good movie. Definitely see it if you can. I've been waiting for a GIJoe live action movie since I was 12. (I'm 31 now) Out of what I'd really want to see in a live action GIJoe flick I'd say that I got about 85% of what I really wanted. Please if you've seen the movie don't talk about it in this thread. I just wanted to endorse the movie for all of those who had doubts about it. I hope this helps.
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie Review: The Rise of Cobra 100% SPOILER FREE
I would like to add my strong endorsement of this movie. As a fan of both the comic books and the cartoon I was not disappointed and thoroughly entertained. Jeff On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, votomguy votom...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys, As you know, Rise of Cobra was released yesterday here in the US. I just got in from seeing it today. All I have to say is WOW. The movie was very well done. For the most part, it stayed true to the comic book series. It did have it's campy moments, but they were few and far between while remaining enjoyable at the same time. There were some twists on a few action movie cliches. One bright spot, you didn't have to wait for the action. G.I. Joe shows up pretty early in the movie and brings tonnes of action with them. While I didn't and still don't like the international Special Forces thing, I have to say that it really works. Best of all, for fans of G.I.Joe there were plenty of easter eggs throughout the movie. They really don't contribute to the plot, but your heart skips a beat everytime you see one. It's really kid friendly without being overtly so. There's almost no profanity, although the characters do say sugar honey iced tea a few times but that's about it. ALL of the characters were executed very well. There weren't any that felt like an after thought or filler characters. All in all it was a really good movie. Definitely see it if you can. I've been waiting for a GIJoe live action movie since I was 12. (I'm 31 now) Out of what I'd really want to see in a live action GIJoe flick I'd say that I got about 85% of what I really wanted. Please if you've seen the movie don't talk about it in this thread. I just wanted to endorse the movie for all of those who had doubts about it. I hope this helps.
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9
District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. Its funny some of the media says that the apartheid is insinuated...the director himself said the film is set during South African aparthied and that the aliens are stuck in the same neighborhood with the black folk. Hey, for me, I'm looking forward to a sci-fi movie from Africa Said --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I can see how some would think of Alien Nation, V, even Independence Day (the shape of the ship), but that means nothing. Some concepts in scifi are simply not new: the idea of aliens coming to Earth and then being ghettoized isn't. But it's the treatment, the new way the story's told, the committment to intelligent writing and acting, the unique spin of the director and producer and actors, that makes all the difference. Peter Jackson doesn't like to support crappy fare that's devoid of something for the grey matter, so I'm more excited about this than I am, say, the American remake of V that's being discussed. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:51:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 Keith, I'm hyped for it as well. I've been avoiding any websites that hawk it in anyway, primarily because of my aversion to critics. All but one person I've spoken to regarding it are keen to see it as well. (That one refers to it as an 'Alien Nation' ripoff.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Looking forward to District 9 Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:55:00 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The District 9 flick has me really intrigued. with its locale of South Africa (so different from usual Hollywood story locatons), it's gritty look, and the fact that it's a Peter Jackson joint, i have high hopes. Indeed, I'm actually looking forward to it more than I have any other movie so far this year, including Star Trek. Anyone heard any early buzz? I did find favorable reviews via jumping from Rotten Tomatoes (something I loathe to do, but as local newspapers fire more critics, I'm having to venture further afield to even find real critics). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/ *** http://boxoffice.com/reviews/2009/07/district-9.php District 9 is about the apartheid struggle in South Africa. For those under the age of 35 or so, apartheid was the system of racial segregation legally established by the government of South Africa between 1948 and 1994. No matter what else it seems to be about, District 9 , a film made a young, white, South African director, is about apartheid. Co-writer/director Neill Blomkamp spent his formative years living under the system of apartheid and has conscientiously insinuated the issue into his film. The attitudes, ideals and actions of the characters, from everyday citizens to government officials and those in business, reflect those that were common during the apartheid regime. The filmmakers, including producer Peter Jackson, have stealthily laid the artifacts of these dark days beneath the guise of an Alien invasion movie that is intense, graphically novelistic (though itâs an original story) and just funny enough to keep you thoroughly entertained, even while the s! ubtext is of a very serious nature. Buzz and an also clever marketing scheme suggest this should be worth a few bucks at the box officeâespecially if the audience is mostly under 35. The film is told using a number of cinematic modes including documentary footage, mockumentary footage, newsreel accounts, surveillance cameras and the standard story elements of narrative fiction. This is actually less chaotic than it sounds and serves to move the narrative along at a brisk pace. Thereâs little need here for filler. The filmmakers can justify any narrative exposition by putting a camera on the action (any potential camera) and just showing us, or having the characters explain the action to the cameramen. When all else fails Blomkamp inserts a movie moment and presses on. Lovely. Mister Blomkamp is a fine director who cut his teeth on commercials and music videos, and at the knee of director and special effects guru Peter Jackson. Between the two of them (Jacksonâs company was employed for the effects) theyâve come up with the best CGI effects film to date. The spacecrafts, the cityscapes, the weapons effects and the aliens themselves (which we are! told are 100 percent CGI) are all exceptional. But the best thing in the movie is lead actor Sharlto Copley, a long time friend of the director and fairly novice actor. Copley is
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Black Dynamite!
I love this movie clip. I am anxiously awaiting to see it. Did anyone check out the extras on the webpage? On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: You DAY-um right! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Black Dynamite! Date : Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:01:15 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com http://www.blackdynamitemovie.com/ BLACK DYNAMITE 2009, Scott Sanders, USA, 90 min. With Michael Jai White, Kym Whitley Raucous…a vastly entertaining film.—Rob Nelson, Variety A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, BLACK DYNAMITE mines the best and the worst of the blaxploitation era for a rollicking kick-ass parody of classics including THREE THE HARD WAY, DOLEMITE, and SUPERFLY, with a heaping helping of Bruce Lee thrown in for good measure. With a 44-Magnum, nunchucks, and fists at the ready, babe-magnet Black Dynamite (Jai White), a former CIA agent, ruthlessly works both sides of the law when The Man murders his brother, floods orphanages with heroin, and pours tainted malt liquor into the `hood. 35mm. (BS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey'
You are much more likely to see very graphic sex in a thriller or in a horror movie than love making in a movie with adults in a relationship. Why? I dunno. I think that it may have something to do with the people that are judging in the MPAA. There is a member of the clergy that is on their review staff so this could be a Freudian thing. TV is the same. Westerns are still considered TV 14 or G. Even though many of them always have gun violence. I think that the movie Crank was doing it for the shock value. Public sex is still shocking to a lot of people, but shooting someone in the head is passe. Even the autopsy is passe now. Flaying a body open and showing a CGI trip through the bullet wound into the body of the person has become a new standard. Even though it is completely grotesque. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Amen, amen! All you hear is studios worried about demographics (hence, a forgettable run by Halle Berry as Storm, when everyone knows Angela Bassett would have nailed the role) instead of quality. And i have long been puzzled and irritated by the thing you mentioned, where sex and violence in appalling or appallingly impersonal measure gets approved -some scenes in Crank or the Eli Roth torture porn films come to mind. Yet intimate sexual scenes that might show some genetalia in a tasteful and even understanding manner get labeled NC-17. Even on Syfy early this morning (3 am) I saw the beginning of some ghost/slasher flick with Casper van Diem and perennial tough guy actor Michael Rooker. The bad guy impaled, slashed, and cut up three people in teh first five minutes. Blood splaying everywhere, body parts dropping. Yet it's on TV! In the theatres, that's an R and kids get in all the time. Yet let there be ten *seconds* of an intimate love scene between a married couple in a film, and the thing's verbote, advisories go out all over the place, and conservatives are decrying the fall of Western civilization. And now with The Hangover, the teen-sex thing will be back, with copious and gratuitous nude scenes, and no one will care. Crazy... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:22:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I think that is where the studio's influences come into play when they are viewing the rushes. Some of the films that I have watched that have that part of their development documented on video often have changes made to the film that delete key parts of the movie that may have taken into a deeper direction. Another thing that bugs me is that the MPAA will often approve gore and sex scenes in movies if there isn't a happy ending with the characters, or an unhealthy relationship, but if there is a healthy sexual relationship that often ends up on the cutting room floor. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It takes parents to start teaching their kids to appreciate quality. it takes friends to take friends to see something they'd not otherwise see. It takes couples doing something like taking one night a week, or one week a month, where they see something they'd not otherwise see, whether that's watching a silent flick on Turner Classics, an original version of something they've only seen in remakes (such as The Day the Earth Stood still), or brazing the theatres to see a foreign film with subtitles. What I find most interesting is that, while America churns out a lot of low brow crap that's too focused on CGI, sex, and violence lacking in cleverness (not like a John Woo flick) the creators of such aren't always really idiots. Sure, we have the hacks like Michael Bay, who I contend is just an awful director. But we have a lot of directors who are always talking about good film, who in interviews speak of the influence of the masters like Bergman, Kurosawa. in the animation world, for example, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person at Disney, Pixar, or Dreamworks who doesn't worship the work of Miyazaki. Even when they're putting out easy fare like Madagascar or Shrek 3, they still know quality when they see it. So, is the tail wagging the dog, or the other way 'round? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:35:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] We're Drawing Closer to a Will Smith/Zoe Saldana 'Harvey' I agree, but I think that it may take a re-education on a national level. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Actually there are a lot of good films out there that could teach people to appreciate plotting. The only problem is they don't get the press. Indie films,
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon| Fictionwise| Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] The mo better dystopian prophet: Orwell or Huxley?
I think that they were both right. Orwell was right in the beginning (Nazis, Russians, China,North Korea, Argentina etc.) but after the 1950s in this country the game plan changed. Now we are more on the Huxley path. The real danger is what happens when we can no longer sustain the rampant consumerism, and mind numbing entertainment? On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow. After reading this, I changed my vote! ~rave! http://fatpita.net/?i=1952 Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who
I have been wondering about the history of Dr.Who. I remember hearing that he was half human before, but his physiology is slightly different. Do you think that they will ever tell his whole story or just continue to stretch it out for another 30 years? On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Mr Worf, To the best of my knowledge, the only American influence on the series was that one Fox movie back when with Paul McGann. Interestingly, for quite some time after that, the Beeb refused to acknowledge the existence of that movie. On the official DW page on the Beeb's site, McGann wasn't even named. Some fans will still become irate at the mention of him. The ebst explanation out these is that the Fox movie had McGann's Doctor telling one of his companions, I'm half-human. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Topic: Doctor Who Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:42:47 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I am not a super Dr. Who fan but someone asked if there was a US version of the show. I haven't found any info on that yet. There were some that were financed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company in the late 70s. They also re-aired the show for a LONG time. I found some interesting info about the show here: wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_who There was also a tidbit about the BBC systematically erasing shows to recycle tape! G!!! Crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae?
I think the look of the animae Wolverine looks more like Gambit than Wolverine. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: I'd prefer Iron Man, only because I'm a Shellhead fan more than I am of the Canuck. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Ironman and Wolverine animae? Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:21:18 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com It says that it is coming from Marvel... http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810097859/video/14827973 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I think so too. I heard rumors that Whoppi was suppose to play in a couple of shows as well. I could never understand why this show could not have been shown on what was sci-fi. I mean a true science fiction show with some what a budget would not hurt. Autobots, transform!!! On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:31, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/ add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I agree, but to me DS9 was a good show. However the only problem with Star Trek shows is that in the first season and perhaps the second one they seem to make reference to USS Enterprise way too much. Which to me seems to set the show up to failure. --Lavender Autobots, transform!!! On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:22, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon| Fictionwise| Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Yea it should have been called Star Trek: Enterprise and the adventures of the place that they hang out at... I enjoyed some of the back stories of the different races. That was a plus. I would love to see more. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Wlrouge wlro...@aol.com wrote: I agree, but to me DS9 was a good show. However the only problem with Star Trek shows is that in the first season and perhaps the second one they seem to make reference to USS Enterprise way too much. Which to me seems to set the show up to failure. --Lavender Autobots, transform!!! On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:22, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) – everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card. ** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon| Fictionwise| Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ *Romantic Times* American Title V Finalist -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
