Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

2009-10-17 Thread Mr. Worf
He usually does a line, pose,glasses,  and a walk off stage left. So about
20 seconds each. Twice an episode. Then he does a command  pose, and a
solution pose. So we are talking about 1:20 with just Caruso. Plus his
dialog on the show where people walk up to him and talk or he interrogates
someone.

Considering that the show is only about 33 minutes long that is a
significant amount of screen time.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Hell, if they took out all the shots of David Caruso *posing* in CSI
 Miami, how much time would be left?

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 Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:22:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama



 They probably wanted to do NCIS Miami but there is already CSI Miami.

 Hmmm  I wonder how many actual minutes of show CSI Miami  exists if they
 took out the scenic shots, and lab montages?

 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I personally find the original NCIS surprisingly watchable.  Still, I was
 very surprised to see it at the top of the ratings.  Perhaps I shouldn't
 have been.  NCIS is one of the rare television programs that has gone UP in
 ratings every season it has been on.  I have not yet seen NCIS:LA.

 In either case, the success of NCIS:LA does not bode well for Network
 television.  NCIS: Miami, anyone?

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
  Well, like I said a couple of weeks ago. the NCIS: LA show completely
 failed to engage me. I've already stopped watching. given that it's not as
 good as the original (which I never watched), I won't miss missing it.
  Sad state of affairs for TV. What's funny, though, is the end of the
 article calls The Mentalist an original show, but it's not: a bunch of
 regular cops stand around while some kind of specialist with a unique
 talent/perspective helps solve crimes? Try Monk, Psych, Castle and
 others with the same basic formula.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
 Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Forty-four years after Bill Cosby co-starred in I Spy, a black man
 headlines the second highest rated drama on television.
 
  The larger issue of cookie cutter television addressed in the article
 below is chilling.
 
  ~rave?
 
  http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=139632
 
  Why 'NCIS:LA' Is Getting the Best Ratings of the Season for a New Show
 
  CBS's Formula to Keep Viewers and Advertisers Happy Is Also a Sign of
 Trouble for Original Scripted Fare
 
  By Brian Steinberg
 
  Published: October 13, 2009
 
  NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Every Tuesday at 9 p.m., a group of
 government-backed investigators helps save the nation from rogue operatives,
 terrorists or federal employees who go astray for any number of reasons --
 all with lots of action and just a touch of humor.
 
  CBS
  'NCIS: LA'
  If the question, Haven't I seen this somewhere before? echoes in the
 back of your mind, chances are you might be watching CBS, which seems to be
 making a concerted effort to maintain sizable audiences for its schedule by
 building programs with concepts its viewers already find familiar. NCIS:
 LA, a West Coast tweak on the original NCIS that centers on the premise
 above, appears to be the most-watched freshman program of the infant
 2009-2010 season.
  For the week ending Oct. 4, about 17.4 million people watched the
 program, according to Nielsen; the only drama that topped it was its
 predecessor, NCIS, which was the most-watched broadcast show of the week
 (NBC's Sunday Night Football is the only thing that kept the L.A.-centered
 spin-off from taking second place among viewers, though ABC's Dancing with
 the Stars had a higher household rating than the new show).
 
  Popular with advertisers too
  Advertisers like the spin-off, too; according to CBS executives, the
 program is reaching a high sellout in the fourth quarter market for
 so-called scatter advertising, or ad time purchased closer to air date.
 Because it fluctuates based on the immediate market, scatter is taken as a
 good sign of a program's overall popularity with marketers. Recent
 advertisers on NCIS: LA included Home Depot, Wal-Mart Stores and Pfizer's
 Lipitor. NCIS took in around $118 million in advertising during the
 2008-2009 season, according to TNS Media Intelligence.
 
  Yet the success of NCIS: LA illustrates an emerging dilemma for the
 biggest TV networks in the land: To keep the large audiences that
 advertisers demand of them, they aren't able to experiment much with new
 show concepts or quirky ideas. Indeed, the CW's schedule includes three
 hours a week of 

[scifinoir2] Coming to America 2: Nurse's aide returns as King

2009-10-17 Thread Kelwyn
HARRISBURG, Pa. — An African man who worked for years as a nurse's aide in the 
United States, caring for the elderly and sick, is back in his homeland to be 
crowned king of his people in the mountains of western Uganda.

Charles Wesley Mumbere's coronation is scheduled Monday in the Kasese district. 
He will rule over Rwenzururu, a kingdom of about 300,000 people – roughly the 
size of Pittsburgh – that is now recognized by the national government.

Mumbere, who is in his 50s, lived in the United States for 25 years. He kept 
his royal roots secret until July, when he granted an interview to The 
Patriot-News of Harrisburg as he was preparing to return to Uganda.

I find it was very good interacting with the people I was taking care of, he 
told the newspaper at the time. It was very lovely and friendly.

In the 1960s, Mumbere's father, Isaya Mukirane, led a secessionist movement by 
an ethnic group known as the Bakonjo, and they recognized him as their king.

Mumbere inherited the title at 13 and took charge of the kingdom when he turned 
18.

I grew up in the mountains, fighting in the war, he said.

When he was 30, the Bakonjo and the government negotiated an agreement that 
provided for Mumbere to be sent to the United States for an education.

Mumbere arrived in 1984 and attended a business school until his government 
stipend was stopped amid political upheaval in Uganda. In 1987, he gained 
political asylum, trained as a nurse's aide and took a job in a suburban 
Washington nursing home to pay his bills, the newspaper said.

In 1999, he moved to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania's capital, where he worked for at 
least two health care facilities.

He was very loyal, a very hard worker, a very private person, said Johnna 
Marx, executive director of the Golden Living Center-Blue Ridge Mountain on the 
outskirts of Harrisburg.



Read more at: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/charles-wesley-mumbere-nu_n_324249.html



[scifinoir2] Neighbors mistake body for Halloween decoration

2009-10-17 Thread Kelwyn
http://deofew.notlong.com

Neighbors mistake corpse for Halloween display
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES — Residents at a California apartment building failed to alert 
police to the body of their dead neighbor because they thought it was a 
Halloween display, local media reported Saturday.

The decomposing body of Mostafa Mahmoud Zayed, 75, had lain in plain view of 
neighbors, slumped over a balcony chair, for at least three days before police 
were called to the Marina Del Rey building on Thursday.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Zayed had a single gunshot wound to one 
eye, and had apparently been dead since Monday.

Neighbors told a reporter with RMG News that they noticed the body on Monday 
but didn't bother calling authorities because it looked like a Halloween 
dummy.

An official with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department told the newspaper 
that Zayed's death was an apparent suicide, but no further details were 
available.

Halloween, which falls annually on October 31, and is often celebrated in the 
United States with elaborate displays outside houses featuring carved pumpkins, 
fake insects and gory decorations.

Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved




Re: [scifinoir2] Neighbors mistake body for Halloween decoration

2009-10-17 Thread Mr. Worf
And of course, the mailman didn't look either... Welcome to LA. :)

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://deofew.notlong.com

 Neighbors mistake corpse for Halloween display
 (AFP) – 1 hour ago

 LOS ANGELES — Residents at a California apartment building failed to alert
 police to the body of their dead neighbor because they thought it was a
 Halloween display, local media reported Saturday.

 The decomposing body of Mostafa Mahmoud Zayed, 75, had lain in plain view
 of neighbors, slumped over a balcony chair, for at least three days before
 police were called to the Marina Del Rey building on Thursday.

 The Los Angeles Times reported that Zayed had a single gunshot wound to one
 eye, and had apparently been dead since Monday.

 Neighbors told a reporter with RMG News that they noticed the body on
 Monday but didn't bother calling authorities because it looked like a
 Halloween dummy.

 An official with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department told the
 newspaper that Zayed's death was an apparent suicide, but no further
 details were available.

 Halloween, which falls annually on October 31, and is often celebrated in
 the United States with elaborate displays outside houses featuring carved
 pumpkins, fake insects and gory decorations.

 Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved




 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Coming to America 2: Nurse's aide returns as King

2009-10-17 Thread Mr. Worf
Wow. You just never know sometimes.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 HARRISBURG, Pa. — An African man who worked for years as a nurse's aide in
 the United States, caring for the elderly and sick, is back in his homeland
 to be crowned king of his people in the mountains of western Uganda.

 Charles Wesley Mumbere's coronation is scheduled Monday in the Kasese
 district. He will rule over Rwenzururu, a kingdom of about 300,000 people –
 roughly the size of Pittsburgh – that is now recognized by the national
 government.

 Mumbere, who is in his 50s, lived in the United States for 25 years. He
 kept his royal roots secret until July, when he granted an interview to The
 Patriot-News of Harrisburg as he was preparing to return to Uganda.

 I find it was very good interacting with the people I was taking care of,
 he told the newspaper at the time. It was very lovely and friendly.

 In the 1960s, Mumbere's father, Isaya Mukirane, led a secessionist movement
 by an ethnic group known as the Bakonjo, and they recognized him as their
 king.

 Mumbere inherited the title at 13 and took charge of the kingdom when he
 turned 18.

 I grew up in the mountains, fighting in the war, he said.

 When he was 30, the Bakonjo and the government negotiated an agreement that
 provided for Mumbere to be sent to the United States for an education.

 Mumbere arrived in 1984 and attended a business school until his government
 stipend was stopped amid political upheaval in Uganda. In 1987, he gained
 political asylum, trained as a nurse's aide and took a job in a suburban
 Washington nursing home to pay his bills, the newspaper said.

 In 1999, he moved to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania's capital, where he worked
 for at least two health care facilities.

 He was very loyal, a very hard worker, a very private person, said Johnna
 Marx, executive director of the Golden Living Center-Blue Ridge Mountain on
 the outskirts of Harrisburg.



 Read more at:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/charles-wesley-mumbere-nu_n_324249.html



 

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[scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

2009-10-17 Thread Kelwyn
Q.  Pimpsicle?

A.  (Scott Sanders, director of Black Dynamite): It was a pilot about a 
frozen pimp.  His son finds and de-thaws him, but his son is physically older 
than his father; and then they become private eyes together.


I, personally, am surprised this wasn't picked up.

~rave!








Re: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

2009-10-17 Thread Mr. Worf
Wow... I can see the commercials now.

Bitch betta have my money (Cutaway) I need to hide from da po-lice. Hmmm
what's this? Suspended animation project? This looks like a good place to
hide for a while...

THURSDAYS ONLY ON ABC!...

Right after Hong Kong Phooey the movie...

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Q.  Pimpsicle?

 A.  (Scott Sanders, director of Black Dynamite): It was a pilot about a
 frozen pimp.  His son finds and de-thaws him, but his son is physically
 older than his father; and then they become private eyes together.


 I, personally, am surprised this wasn't picked up.

 ~rave!








 

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Re: [scifinoir2] What Are You Reading?

2009-10-17 Thread Bosco Bosco
Anathem bu Neal Stephenson and Dream Of Perpetual Motion by author's name 
escapes me. It's an advance copy that isn't out until next march.

B

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] What Are You Reading?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 8:50 AM






 





  My semi-legendary To be Read pile is starting to thin out 
just a bit and it needs to be fed before it goes feral. Any suggestions?



My wife has the last book of the John Twelve Hawks Fourth Realm trilogy The 
Golden City hanging around and I may add it to the list.



I just finished an urban fantasy by Seanan McGuire called Rosemary and Rue. i 
liked it but I figured out the central mystery way too early and it made the 
book drag a bit. Plus I was hoping for something a little more gritty.



I have two books waiting to be read that might fit the bill: 



Child of Fire by Harry Connolly. It's about a not so nice guy in debt to an 
even meaner wizard. I've heard it's a bit grittier than the Harry Dresden 
series and I'm in the mood for something similar.



Next is Tom Sniegoski's A Kiss Before The Apocolypse. I first read his work in 
a collection called Mean Streets that featured a Harry Dresden story. The work 
that hooked me most was Sniegoski's story Noah's Orphans. Remy Chandler was the 
seraphim Remiel who gave up his glory after the last war in Heaven. He lived as 
a human but apart until the 20th century. He fell in love, got drawn back into 
the great game of Heavenly politics and had to hold back an apocolypse or 
three. In Noah's Orphans he is drawn into the mystery when someone kills the 
Old Man Noah. To say more would spoil it. 



I came into the middle of the series and mistakenly read the second book of the 
series which has some uncanny parallels to the current season of Supernatural. 
So now I'm finally reading the first book.



So what's on your list?




 

  




 

















  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?

2009-10-17 Thread Bosco Bosco
Both are available readily from sellers at half.com starting at about .75 and 
going up to 15-40 dollars for brand new copies. Lots are available in good 
condition for less than $4 dollars.

I love half.com

Bosco

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:35 PM






 





  Good luck finding them. I found my copies when I was 
scrounging around in the basement and quickly put them on the shelf of honor.



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:



 

 I will, B.

 

 As for the two you recommend, I know that they're good. So good, in fact, 
 that I was going to buy them at a B Dalton, and someone stole them when I put 
 them down to use the Little Lifeform's Room. The manager told me that he'd 
 rung them up personally, the *only* copies. Been meaning to re-order them.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 From: daikaij...@. ..

 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:13:15 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   Mieville is a bit hit or miss with me. He has great ideas 
 and can write beautifully but sometimes his work seems to run out of steam 
 and limp to a conclusion. I loved The Scar but was bit underwhelmed by Iron 
 Council. Please let me know how The City and The City turns out.

 

 

 

 Have you ever read anything by Mark Sumner? He wrote two damned fine books in 
 the late 90s called Devil's Tower and Devil's Engine. They take place in an 
 alternate American West where magic exists due to a apocolyptic event during 
 Civil War. They might be something you'd enjoy. 

 

 

 

 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@  wrote:

 

 

 

  

 

  Right now, B, I'm reading China Miewille's The City and The City (the 
  second The City mirror-reversed) , about a detective investigating the 
  murder of a woman who seems to be a prostitute. The detective soon realizes 
  that the woman is from a version of the city that exists in the same space 
  as the city he's in. After that, I've got Brent Weeks' Night Angel 
  trilogy, in which a young boy learns to become an assassin, but only after 
  he masters the one unique magical gift he has. (Problem is, he doesn't know 
  what the gift is just yet.)

 

  

 

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

  

 

  http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 

  From: daikaiju66@

 

  Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:50:34 +

 

  Subject: [scifinoir2] What Are You Reading?

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

My semi-legendary To be Read pile is starting to thin 
  out just a bit and it needs to be fed before it goes feral. Any suggestions?

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  My wife has the last book of the John Twelve Hawks Fourth Realm trilogy The 
  Golden City hanging around and I may add it to the list.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  I just finished an urban fantasy by Seanan McGuire called Rosemary and Rue. 
  i liked it but I figured out the central mystery way too early and it made 
  the book drag a bit. Plus I was hoping for something a little more gritty.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  I have two books waiting to be read that might fit the bill: 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Child of Fire by Harry Connolly. It's about a not so nice guy in debt to an 
  even meaner wizard. I've heard it's a bit grittier than the Harry Dresden 
  series and I'm in the mood for something similar.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Next is Tom Sniegoski's A Kiss Before The Apocolypse. I first read his work 
  in a collection called Mean Streets that featured a Harry Dresden story. 
  The work that hooked me most was Sniegoski's story Noah's Orphans. Remy 
  Chandler was the seraphim Remiel who gave up his glory after the last war 
  in Heaven. He lived as a human but apart until the 20th century. He fell in 
  love, got drawn back into the great game of Heavenly politics and had to 
  hold back an apocolypse or three. In Noah's Orphans he is drawn into the 
  mystery when someone kills the Old Man Noah. To say more would spoil it. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  I came into the middle of the series and mistakenly read the second book of 
  the series which has some uncanny parallels to the current season of 
  Supernatural. So now I'm finally reading the first book.

 

  

 

  

 

 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Thanks, Bosco, even though I don't partake of online buying. (Say it's safe all 
you like -- I'll have my body double do the listening as I run screaming.)

And, B, regarding The City and The City -- just finished it, and I'm giving 
it a thumbs down. Had promise, but got lost in its own prose.
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

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RE: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Okay, let's cast it.

Fred Williamson (since he's still angry about not being in Black Dynamite) 
and Lee Thompson Young.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:47:37 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle















 





  Q.  Pimpsicle?



A.  (Scott Sanders, director of Black Dynamite): It was a pilot about a 
frozen pimp.  His son finds and de-thaws him, but his son is physically older 
than his father; and then they become private eyes together.



I, personally, am surprised this wasn't picked up.



~rave!





 

  













  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Neighbors mistake body for Halloween decoration

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Used to live in L.A. I'm surprised that they noticed a body at all.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:52:58 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Neighbors mistake body for Halloween decoration















 





  http://deofew.notlong.com



Neighbors mistake corpse for Halloween display

(AFP) – 1 hour ago



LOS ANGELES — Residents at a California apartment building failed to alert 
police to the body of their dead neighbor because they thought it was a 
Halloween display, local media reported Saturday.



The decomposing body of Mostafa Mahmoud Zayed, 75, had lain in plain view of 
neighbors, slumped over a balcony chair, for at least three days before police 
were called to the Marina Del Rey building on Thursday.



The Los Angeles Times reported that Zayed had a single gunshot wound to one 
eye, and had apparently been dead since Monday.



Neighbors told a reporter with RMG News that they noticed the body on Monday 
but didn't bother calling authorities because it looked like a Halloween 
dummy.



An official with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department told the newspaper 
that Zayed's death was an apparent suicide, but no further details were 
available.



Halloween, which falls annually on October 31, and is often celebrated in the 
United States with elaborate displays outside houses featuring carved pumpkins, 
fake insects and gory decorations.



Copyright © 2009 AFP. All rights reserved





 

  













  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Dangit, Keith!

If I'd checked my e-mail before I walked out the door, I would've been able to 
watch CSI: Miami when it came on at five to take a measure. However, rough 
guesstimate from me is 11 minutes and three seconds.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:07:15 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama















 





  
Hell, if they took out all the shots of David Caruso *posing* in CSI Miami, 
how much time would be left?

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:22:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama







 





  They probably wanted to do NCIS Miami but there is already 
CSI Miami.

Hmmm  I wonder how many actual minutes of show CSI Miami  exists if they took 
out the scenic shots, and lab montages?



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

I personally find the original NCIS surprisingly watchable.  Still, I was very 
surprised to see it at the top of the ratings.  Perhaps I shouldn't have been.  
NCIS is one of the rare television programs that has gone UP in ratings every 
season it has been on.  I have not yet seen NCIS:LA.




In either case, the success of NCIS:LA does not bode well for Network 
television.  NCIS: Miami, anyone?



~(no)rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Well, like I said a couple of weeks ago. the NCIS: LA show completely failed 
 to engage me. I've already stopped watching. given that it's not as good as 
 the original (which I never watched), I won't miss missing it.


 Sad state of affairs for TV. What's funny, though, is the end of the article 
 calls The Mentalist an original show, but it's not: a bunch of regular cops 
 stand around while some kind of specialist with a unique talent/perspective 
 helps solve crimes? Try Monk, Psych, Castle and others with the same 
 basic formula.






 - Original Message -

 From: Kelwyn ravena...@...

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama













 Forty-four years after Bill Cosby co-starred in I Spy, a black man 
 headlines the second highest rated drama on television.



 The larger issue of cookie cutter television addressed in the article below 
 is chilling.



 ~rave?



 http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=139632



 Why 'NCIS:LA' Is Getting the Best Ratings of the Season for a New Show



 CBS's Formula to Keep Viewers and Advertisers Happy Is Also a Sign of Trouble 
 for Original Scripted Fare



 By Brian Steinberg



 Published: October 13, 2009



 NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Every Tuesday at 9 p.m., a group of government-backed 
 investigators helps save the nation from rogue operatives, terrorists or 
 federal employees who go astray for any number of reasons -- all with lots of 
 action and just a touch of humor.




 CBS

 'NCIS: LA'

 If the question, Haven't I seen this somewhere before? echoes in the back 
 of your mind, chances are you might be watching CBS, which seems to be making 
 a concerted effort to maintain sizable audiences for its schedule by building 
 programs with concepts its viewers already find familiar. NCIS: LA, a West 
 Coast tweak on the original NCIS that centers on the premise above, appears 
 to be the most-watched freshman program of the infant 2009-2010 season.


 For the week ending Oct. 4, about 17.4 million people watched the program, 
 according to Nielsen; the only drama that topped it was its predecessor, 
 NCIS, which was the most-watched broadcast show of the week (NBC's Sunday 
 Night Football is the only thing that kept the L.A.-centered spin-off from 
 taking second place among viewers, though ABC's Dancing with the Stars had 
 a higher household rating than the new show).




 Popular with advertisers too

 Advertisers like the spin-off, too; according to CBS executives, the program 
 is reaching a high sellout in the fourth quarter market for so-called 
 scatter advertising, or ad time purchased closer to air date. Because it 
 fluctuates based on the immediate market, scatter is taken as a good sign of 
 a program's overall popularity with marketers. Recent advertisers on NCIS: 
 LA included Home Depot, Wal-Mart Stores and Pfizer's Lipitor. NCIS took in 
 around $118 million in advertising during the 2008-2009 season, according to 
 TNS Media Intelligence.




 Yet the success of NCIS: LA illustrates an emerging dilemma for the biggest 
 TV networks in the land: To 

RE: [scifinoir2] M$ slipped a flaw into Firefox

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Bastiches.

Even though I'm safe because, as stupid as it may sound, I never accept M$ 
updates. The icon's sitting in my tray right now, asking to be dealt with. 
Haven't had any troubles yet, and I've had this laptop for three years now.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:07:17 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] M$ slipped a flaw into Firefox















 





  Adding to the reasons why M$ should be ran out of 
business.http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4614tag=nl.e589



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

rave, I didn't think I'd like NCIS, when they did its REALLY clumsy spinoff 
from JAG. I watched the premiere ep only by accident, and fell for it.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:40:53 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama















 





  I personally find the original NCIS surprisingly watchable.  
Still, I was very surprised to see it at the top of the ratings.  Perhaps I 
shouldn't have been.  NCIS is one of the rare television programs that has gone 
UP in ratings every season it has been on.  I have not yet seen NCIS:LA. 



In either case, the success of NCIS:LA does not bode well for Network 
television.  NCIS: Miami, anyone?



~(no)rave! 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Well, like I said a couple of weeks ago. the NCIS: LA show completely failed 
 to engage me. I've already stopped watching. given that it's not as good as 
 the original (which I never watched), I won't miss missing it. 

 Sad state of affairs for TV. What's funny, though, is the end of the article 
 calls The Mentalist an original show, but it's not: a bunch of regular cops 
 stand around while some kind of specialist with a unique talent/perspective 
 helps solve crimes? Try Monk, Psych, Castle and others with the same 
 basic formula. 

 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Forty-four years after Bill Cosby co-starred in I Spy, a black man 
 headlines the second highest rated drama on television. 

 

 The larger issue of cookie cutter television addressed in the article below 
 is chilling. 

 

 ~rave? 

 

 http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=139632 

 

 Why 'NCIS:LA' Is Getting the Best Ratings of the Season for a New Show 

 

 CBS's Formula to Keep Viewers and Advertisers Happy Is Also a Sign of Trouble 
 for Original Scripted Fare 

 

 By Brian Steinberg 

 

 Published: October 13, 2009 

 

 NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Every Tuesday at 9 p.m., a group of government-backed 
 investigators helps save the nation from rogue operatives, terrorists or 
 federal employees who go astray for any number of reasons -- all with lots of 
 action and just a touch of humor. 

 

 CBS 

 'NCIS: LA' 

 If the question, Haven't I seen this somewhere before? echoes in the back 
 of your mind, chances are you might be watching CBS, which seems to be making 
 a concerted effort to maintain sizable audiences for its schedule by building 
 programs with concepts its viewers already find familiar. NCIS: LA, a West 
 Coast tweak on the original NCIS that centers on the premise above, appears 
 to be the most-watched freshman program of the infant 2009-2010 season. 

 For the week ending Oct. 4, about 17.4 million people watched the program, 
 according to Nielsen; the only drama that topped it was its predecessor, 
 NCIS, which was the most-watched broadcast show of the week (NBC's Sunday 
 Night Football is the only thing that kept the L.A.-centered spin-off from 
 taking second place among viewers, though ABC's Dancing with the Stars had 
 a higher household rating than the new show). 

 

 Popular with advertisers too 

 Advertisers like the spin-off, too; according to CBS executives, the program 
 is reaching a high sellout in the fourth quarter market for so-called 
 scatter advertising, or ad time purchased closer to air date. Because it 
 fluctuates based on the immediate market, scatter is taken as a good sign of 
 a program's overall popularity with marketers. Recent advertisers on NCIS: 
 LA included Home Depot, Wal-Mart Stores and Pfizer's Lipitor. NCIS took in 
 around $118 million in advertising during the 2008-2009 season, according to 
 TNS Media Intelligence. 

 

 Yet the success of NCIS: LA illustrates an emerging dilemma for the biggest 
 TV networks in the land: To keep the large audiences that advertisers demand 
 of them, they aren't able to experiment much with new show concepts or quirky 
 ideas. Indeed, the CW's schedule includes three hours a week of revamps of 
 two old Fox hits, Melrose Place and 90210. One can make the argument that 
 ABC's new Flash Forward serves up the same elements -- mystery, long story 
 arcs, riddles -- that made its soon-to-end Lost such a showpiece, and that 
 its new Modern Family sitcom steals its documentary-style storytelling from 
 NBC's The Office. 

 

 One might even suggest that the premise for another successful CBS show, The 
 Good Wife, is ripped from the headlines -- making it something that already 
 

RE: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith... and the problem is? 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:15:05 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama















 





  
You do realize that fifty years from now, we will have:

 

NCIS: Sub-orbital Platform 5

 

Law and Order: Lunar Colony

 

CSI: Obama Station

 

Bones on Mars


- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:16:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama



  




I think it all comes down to the direction and writing. Psych has good writing. 
(Monk too) NCIS takes the Bush approach and just gets by so any spinoff show 
from anything on CBS tends to be even weaker. You can almost see the 
stereotyped studio boss chewing on a cheap cigar saying we need a spin off 
boys. Whataya got?
  How about NCIS LA??
 Great I love it! We'll hire some hard body types and some hot babes! The kids 
will eat this stuff up! 



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:




Isn't it, though, Keith?

I never picked up on NCIS:LA, after the intro it got on NCIS. And I don't see 
the original angle on The Mentalist either, save for the title. IMO, it 
wishes it were half as good as Psych is.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:53:38 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

  




Well, like I said a couple of weeks ago. the NCIS: LA show completely failed to 
engage me. I've already stopped watching. given that it's not as good as the 
original (which I never watched), I won't miss missing it.
Sad state of affairs for TV. What's funny, though, is the end of the article 
calls The Mentalist an original show, but it's not: a bunch of regular cops 
stand around while some kind of specialist with a unique talent/perspective 
helps solve crimes? Try Monk, Psych, Castle and others with the same 
basic formula.


- Original Message -
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Black Man stars in 2nd Highest Rated TV Drama

  


Forty-four years after Bill Cosby co-starred in I Spy, a black man headlines 
the second highest rated drama on television.

The larger issue of cookie cutter television addressed in the article below 
is chilling. 

~rave?

http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=139632

Why 'NCIS:LA' Is Getting the Best Ratings of the Season for a New Show

CBS's Formula to Keep Viewers and Advertisers Happy Is Also a Sign of Trouble 
for Original Scripted Fare

By Brian Steinberg 

Published: October 13, 2009

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Every Tuesday at 9 p.m., a group of government-backed 
investigators helps save the nation from rogue operatives, terrorists or 
federal employees who go astray for any number of reasons -- all with lots of 
action and just a touch of humor.

CBS
'NCIS: LA'
If the question, Haven't I seen this somewhere before? echoes in the back of 
your mind, chances are you might be watching CBS, which seems to be making a 
concerted effort to maintain sizable audiences for its schedule by building 
programs with concepts its viewers already find familiar. NCIS: LA, a West 
Coast tweak on the original NCIS that centers on the premise above, appears 
to be the most-watched freshman program of the infant 2009-2010 season.
For the week ending Oct. 4, about 17.4 million people watched the program, 
according to Nielsen; the only drama that topped it was its predecessor, 
NCIS, which was the most-watched broadcast show of the week (NBC's Sunday 
Night Football is the only thing that kept the L.A.-centered spin-off from 
taking second place among viewers, though ABC's Dancing with the Stars had a 
higher household rating than the new show).

Popular with advertisers too
Advertisers like the spin-off, too; according to CBS executives, the program is 
reaching a high sellout in the fourth quarter market for so-called scatter 
advertising, or ad time purchased closer to air date. Because it fluctuates 
based on the immediate market, scatter is taken as a good sign of a program's 
overall popularity with marketers. Recent advertisers on NCIS: LA included 
Home Depot, Wal-Mart Stores and Pfizer's Lipitor. NCIS took in around $118 
million in advertising during the 2008-2009 season, according to TNS Media 
Intelligence.

Yet the 

RE: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite'

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

(standing ovation)

Martin (intends to try the buck-naked thing, once he gets an SO)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:43 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite'















 





  
so again, how is 'Tropic Thunder a more fitting homage?

 

I think it'd be hard to pull off a serious period piece specifically dealing 
with Blaxploitation without it being somewhat comedic. For one thing, 
Blaxploitation is itself a built-in caricature of the times and some of our 
fantasies. Black men didn't roam with abandon in the late '60s and early '70s, 
wearing fly clothes, beating up white criminals and pillars of society, with 
impunity. Tough PI's or Fixers didn't literally spit in the Man's face, or 
threaten bigoted white cops, while their more with-it peers stood around in awe 
of the tough black men. Brothers weren't running around gunning down criminals 
in the streets, then going home to have sex with the black, white, or Asian 
woman of their choice every day (or sometimes all at once). White police 
commanders didn't let Black vigilantes take out their own justice in the 
street, trusting that they'd let them know if and when they needed to get 
involved. Some of that revenge fantasy fed--and feeds, in some cases--a 
long-simmering need to get back at Da Man, but it was also a bit over the top 
at times, and made one chuckle as often as cheer. The Brothers were so cool it 
hurt, the white guys so slimy, stupid, racist, or incompetent, they were often 
like cardboard characters.

 

And our Sisters certainly weren't always as manifestly subservient as depicted 
in those films. One of my fav scenes from Shaft is when his hardworking 
girlfriend comes home, arms loaded down with groceries, to find Shaft lying 
buck naked on her couch.

 

I felt like a machine today, baby, he croons, that's no way for a man to 
feel.  

 

Next thing you know, she's put the groceries down and gives him what he needs. 
What a woman, huh: works all day, buys grocery, gives out sex on demand, does 
as she's told, never questions her man. Of course the day before/after that 
tender moment, Shaft has bedded other women.  I've lost count of how many times 
Bernie Casey, Roundtree, Williamson, etc., walked up to a woman, all but 
snapped his fingers at her, beds her, then unceremoniously tells her something 
like Get lost baby. I got work to do. 

 

Can you say fantasy? And let's not even get started on the pimps, 
prostitutes, street snitches and other supporting characters that added more 
than a bit of color and flavor.

 

There's a lot of exaggeration in those flicks, a magnification of what was good 
and bad of the times, of our greater goals and baser desires, of needs to 
protect our people, and thirst to get back at white folks. and sometimes, of 
dreams for men simply to run around like some kind of modern-day conqueror, 
slaying his fellows and dominating his women. A movie like that can be played 
straight, certainly, and I hope someone will do that. But many of those movies 
were already comedic by their amplification of the very cliches they were 
depicting, and I think White is just playing on that, the same way Keenan Ivory 
Wayans did with I'm Gonna Get You Sucka.

 

 

 


- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:19:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite'



  




It could be that he feels that because his character was an important icon to 
black cinema that it shouldn't be compromised by comedy. Like not being able to 
make a joke about Jesus. But he fails to realize that most people under 30 
don't know who the hell he is! 



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:




Keith, I'm thinking that the cumulative effects of all of those shots to the 
head he took when he played for the Rams are showing.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:57:15 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite'

  





I think Williamson might be playing this up a bit for kicks. I mean, how can 
one decry this movie as offensive for being too comedic, then say that Robert 
Downey Jr's role in Tropic Thunder is a proper homage?

*


http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/entertainment/movies/13439/1
 
 

Fred Williamson Hates on 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License By Louisiana Justice Of The Peace

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

And the answer would be, _  __ ___ ___ _ ___...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:17:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License By 
Louisiana Justice Of The Peace















 





  The question should then be, did you ask your black friends 
their opinion on this?


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























And the funny/pathetic thing about this?

He said, I'm not racist. I have Black friends. As if it might excuse his 
mindset.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:48:04 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License By 
Louisiana Justice Of The Peace

















 





  I'm glad this came to light. Justices of the Peace have their 
own little fiefdoms and no one probably ever called him on his bullshit. He 
tried to grandstand and now the state will have to come down on him. 





Tangipahoa Parish wasn't exactly rife with interracial couples back in the day 
but with Southeastern University continuing to grow and more affluent folks 
moving into the area from other places it was bound to happen sooner than later.





--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:



 Maybe he is trying to prevent any future Obamas from being born?

 

 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Martin Baxter

 truthseeker...@...wrote:

 

 

 

  Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the South will rise again.

 

  Because sh*t does float.

 

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RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

Okay. Yes, I have seen it, loved it. Used to have the video, until I lost it in 
a fire. To this day, the tirgger word they used, Antwerp, still sticks in my 
head.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:05:36 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No,  
really















 





  I misspelled it. The correct title was Lathe of heaven. I 
didn't like the most recent version of it.

Here is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lathe_of_Heaven




On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























No, doesn't strike a chord. Is it a movie? Couldn't find it listed in IMDb.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:12:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No,  
really
















 





  Ever see the Lave? 


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























All of those possibilities are intriguing to me, but I'm really fond of the 
doorway into the heart of space and time cracking open.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:04:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No,  
really

















 





  Here is a short blurb on it 
http://survive2012.com/index.php/galactic-alignment.html



On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:



What alignment is that? There was the Grand Alignment (the Great Conjunction) 
back in the '80s,and nothing happened.


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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:31:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No,  
really







 





  This kind of all falls into the 2012 Doomsday scenarios. 
There are at least one real possibility of something happening when the solar 
system aligns itself around Dec 2012. 



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:







































From: Chris de Morsella
[mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:25 PM

To: 'tracey demorsella'

Subject: RE: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really 






 


 


Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really 

Richard
Webb, physics features editor



Could the Large
Hadron Collider be sabotaging itself from the future? That's the suggestion
of a couple of reasonably distinguished theoretical physicists, which has
received a fresh airing in
the New York Times today. 



Actually, it's the Higgs boson that is doing the sabotage. Apparently, among
the many singular properties of the Higgs that the LHC is meant to discover
could be the ability to turn back time to stop its cover being blown.



Or as the New York Times puts it:  


the hypothesized Higgs boson... might be so abhorrent
to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the
collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time
to kill his grandfather.




That is the ultimate reason, suggest the duo - Danish string theory pioneer 
Holger Bech Nielsen and the Japanese
physicist Masao Ninomiya - why Congress stopped the funding for the USA's 
Superconducting
Super Collider in 1993, and why the
LHC itself suffered such an embarrassing meltdown shortly after starting up
last year. 


 


Reading the first
paper from a couple of years ago and the follow-up last week, it's not quite
clear to me how or why the Higgs contrives to influence the minds of 
Congressmen,
or cause LHC magnets to overheat from its point of discovery some time in the
future. Even trying to consider how it would achieve such feats makes my own
magnets overheat.



The authors clear up some of the mystery by describing their model as starting
with a series of not completely convincing, but still suggestive,
assumptions.



Some more
excitable corners of the physics blogosphere have been considerably less
polite about the theory.



Even more fun is Nielsen and Ninomiya's suggestion of how their theory might be
tested: 

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Limbaugh dropped from group bidding for St Louis Rams

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Baxter

If this happens, I've got somewhere you can hide from retaliation. :-)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:19:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Limbaugh dropped from group bidding for St Louis  
Rams















 





  Maybe he could take his money and make the crazy redneck 
channel? He could have the 700 club all day Sunday. 


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























The biggest piece of comic relief out of this, IMO, was watching Pat Buchanan 
trying to defend the Drugster's right to own on Hardball yesterday, with Rev 
Sharpton in the opposition chair. He dredged up the Tawana Brawley Incident, 
tried to link Sharpton to the Duke lacrosse team rape case and threw in two or 
three matters so tangential to the actual affair that it made Buchanan look all 
the more like a senile version of Strom Thurmond.


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:05:00 -0400

Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Limbaugh dropped from group bidding for St Louis Rams















 





  

Everybody chill.  We got this.



NEW YORK (Reuters) - Controversial conservative talk show host Rush  

Limbaugh has been dropped from a group trying to buy the St. Louis  

Rams after several black NFL players objected and the league  

commissioner weighed in against Limbaugh's divisive comments.



It has become clear that his (Limbaugh's) involvement in our group  

has become a complication and a distraction to our intentions, said  

SPC Worldwide Chairman Dave Checketts, who is leading the bid to buy  

the National Football League team and keep it in St. Louis.



We have decided to move forward without him and hope it will  

eventually lead us to a successful conclusion, Checketts said in an  

emailed statement.



Several black NFL players have told newspaper reporters they would  

never play for a team owned by Limbaugh because of remarks they found  

racially objectionable, including his comment that the media wanted  

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb to succeed because he  

is black.



Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay on Tuesday said he could not  

consider voting to approve Limbaugh as an owner because of comments  

that were inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive, according to  

an Associated Press report posted on the NFL's website.



According to the report, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told the NFL  

Fall League Meeting: I think divisive comments are not what the NFL  

is all about. I would not want to see those kind of comments from  

people who are in a responsible position within the NFL.



Checketts' group is bidding for the Rams as part of a sale being  

conducted by Goldman Sachs. While the process limits Checketts on  

what he can say, he obtained special permission to clarify the  

investor group's intentions, he said.



A spokeswoman for Limbaugh could not immediately be reached for comment.



Checketts, who owns the National Hockey League's St. Louis Blues,  

wants to keep the Rams based in St. Louis, and to bolster these  

efforts, his group had invited Missourians to join them, leading to  

Limbaugh getting involved.



Limbaugh was to have had a limited partnership role, said Checketts,  

and little day-to-day involvement.



A native of Missouri, Limbaugh is one of the most highly paid figures  

in broadcast media and an ardent football fan who came close to  

landing a spot as a commentator on Monday Night Football on ABC in  

2000.



Three years later, Limbaugh, who played football in high school,  

joined ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown.



After a month on the show, he resigned amid controversy over his  

remarks about McNabb.



Limbaugh was born in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and later worked for  

the Kansas City Royals baseball team.



Forbes magazine recently valued the Rams at $913 million, ranking  

them 25th out of 32 NFL teams.



 

  













  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?

2009-10-17 Thread Bosco Bosco
I've purchased a lot of stuff online and never had a problem. It's just as 
likely your credit card number will be stolen by your waiter or the person at 
grocery check out or by criminals rigging your ATM. 

That said, you can always fix the issue like so: Buy a prepaid Visa or Amex. 
Load it up with the amount of your purchase plus shipping. Make said purchase 
with pre-paid card with absolutely no risk to any of your bank accounts or 
credit accounts. 

Alternately feel free to spend inordinate amounts of time browsing used book 
stores. I know I HATE doing that( he said jokingly.)

On a related note, my kid now has a weekly appointment less than a mile from 
the biggest half price books in the city. I've been there every week for two 
months now and I have pulled some badass finds!!!

Bosco

--- On Sat, 10/17/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: What Are You Reading?
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 4:29 PM






 





  


Thanks, Bosco, even though I don't partake of online buying. (Say it's safe all 
you like -- I'll have my body double do the listening as I run screaming.)

And, B, regarding The City and The City -- just finished it, and I'm giving 
it a thumbs down. Had promise, but got lost in its own prose.
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

2009-10-17 Thread Mr. Worf
We also need Huggy Bear.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Okay, let's cast it.

 Fred Williamson (since he's still angry about not being in Black
 Dynamite) and Lee Thompson Young.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: ravena...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:47:37 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Pimpsicle

Q. Pimpsicle?

 A. (Scott Sanders, director of Black Dynamite): It was a pilot about a
 frozen pimp. His son finds and de-thaws him, but his son is physically older
 than his father; and then they become private eyes together.

 I, personally, am surprised this wasn't picked up.

 ~rave!



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Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite'

2009-10-17 Thread Keith Johnson
ha-ha! 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:52:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite' 






(standing ovation) 

Martin (intends to try the buck-naked thing, once he gets an SO) 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:12:43 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite' 






so again, how is 'Tropic Thunder a more fitting homage? 

I think it'd be hard to pull off a serious period piece specifically dealing 
with Blaxploitation without it being somewhat comedic. For one thing, 
Blaxploitation is itself a built-in caricature of the times and some of our 
fantasies. Black men didn't roam with abandon in the late '60s and early '70s, 
wearing fly clothes, beating up white criminals and pillars of society, with 
impunity. Tough PI's or Fixers didn't literally spit in the Man's face, or 
threaten bigoted white cops, while their more with-it peers stood around in awe 
of the tough black men. Brothers weren't running around gunning down criminals 
in the streets, then going home to have sex with the black, white, or Asian 
woman of their choice every day (or sometimes all at once). White police 
commanders didn't let Black vigilantes take out their own justice in the 
street, trusting that they'd let them know if and when they needed to get 
involved. Some of that revenge fantasy fed--and feeds, in some cases--a 
long-simmering need to get back at Da Man, but it was also a bit over the top 
at times, and made one chuckle as often as cheer. The Brothers were so cool it 
hurt, the white guys so slimy, stupid, racist, or incompetent, they were often 
like cardboard characters. 

And our Sisters certainly weren't always as manifestly subservient as depicted 
in those films. One of my fav scenes from Shaft is when his hardworking 
girlfriend comes home, arms loaded down with groceries, to find Shaft lying 
buck naked on her couch. 

I felt like a machine today, baby, he croons, that's no way for a man to 
feel. 

Next thing you know, she's put the groceries down and gives him what he needs. 
What a woman, huh: works all day, buys grocery, gives out sex on demand, does 
as she's told, never questions her man. Of course the day before/after that 
tender moment, Shaft has bedded other women. I've lost count of how many times 
Bernie Casey, Roundtree, Williamson, etc., walked up to a woman, all but 
snapped his fingers at her, beds her, then unceremoniously tells her something 
like Get lost baby. I got work to do. 

Can you say fantasy? And let's not even get started on the pimps, 
prostitutes, street snitches and other supporting characters that added more 
than a bit of color and flavor. 

There's a lot of exaggeration in those flicks, a magnification of what was good 
and bad of the times, of our greater goals and baser desires, of needs to 
protect our people, and thirst to get back at white folks. and sometimes, of 
dreams for men simply to run around like some kind of modern-day conqueror, 
slaying his fellows and dominating his women. A movie like that can be played 
straight, certainly, and I hope someone will do that. But many of those movies 
were already comedic by their amplification of the very cliches they were 
depicting, and I think White is just playing on that, the same way Keenan Ivory 
Wayans did with I'm Gonna Get You Sucka. 




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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:19:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite' 





It could be that he feels that because his character was an important icon to 
black cinema that it shouldn't be compromised by comedy. Like not being able to 
make a joke about Jesus. But he fails to realize that most people under 30 
don't know who the hell he is! 



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  
wrote: 





Keith, I'm thinking that the cumulative effects of all of those shots to the 
head he took when he played for the Rams are showing. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:57:15 + 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Fred Williamson Hates on 'Black Dynamite' 







I think Williamson might be playing this up a bit for kicks. I mean, how can 
one decry this movie as offensive for being too comedic, then say that 

Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really

2009-10-17 Thread Keith Johnson
maybe... :)- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" truthseeker...@hotmail.comTo: "SciFiNoir2" scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:02:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really











  


Maybe Deity's jsut getting up a reay good wind-up..."If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Granthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVikTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comFrom: keithbjohn...@comcast.netDate: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:57:54 +Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really

Yeah, me too, but i'm not sure the Earth is any closer or any more deserving of being smited now than we have beenat other times in our past. As bad as things are, as horrible as Man treats Man, we have made some small progress over the centuries. I would think that a Most High would have slapped us down for the depradations of African slavery, the Holocaust, the Inquistion. American Idol.
- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" truthseeker...@hotmail.comTo: "SciFiNoir2" scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:39:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really

 



Keith, IMO, I've always thought that the Mayans were thinking more wrath-of-Deity as the engine of destruction. Looking a the world right now, I could see it happening."If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Granthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comFrom: keithbjohn...@comcast.netDate: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:05:50 +Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really
Hmm...i don't see anything that would presage the end of the world. Just because the Solar System will be in this position, it doesn't mean any type of gravitational or radiation-based phenomena will affect us--unless a collapsing star happens to point its deadly radiation right at Earth, which *could* prove fatal. But that doesn't have to have anything to do with a Galactic Alignment. They mention that one guy thinks the North Celestial Pole will shift, but that's not the same thing as the North Magnetic Pole here on the Earth, and that's not scheduled to complete its flip for millennia yet. One also can't base any doomsday scenarios on things such as our Solar System being in Aquarius or any other Zodia, because those bodies as such only exist from our perspective. I don't think a single Zodia sign is composed of stars that are actually anywhere close to each other. And then the article even mentions that the Maya--most often cited for there supposed prescience in ending their calendar in 2012--probably just chose Dec 21 because it's the start of winter, and that anything that might accrue from 2012 could take decades to roll around. I haven't yet read any scientific data to make me think we'll suddenly be besieged by tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunami, the loss of the ozone layer, or anything like that. And I can't find anything to indicate the Universe or God (take your pick) really cares about 2012. I'll do some more research on this, but I wonder if 2012 might be similar to all the Year 2000 Millennial fear, our attempt to bring some sort of meaning to the world? Everyone was running around as 2000 approached, worried about Armaggedon and the Second Coming or something. Me? I chuckled wryly, wondering why God or the Universe would care about a calendar date based on Christian/Roman systems, why anyone would think the Universe has a special love for Base 10 numbers (Why is 2000 more powerful than, say Year 3H?), and why so few people realized that Jesus was most likely born around 4 BC anyway, meaning the true Millennium came and went in 1996.- Original Message -From: "Mr. Worf" hellomahog...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:04:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really 


Here is a short blurb on it http://survive2012.com/index.php/galactic-alignment.html
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:


What alignment is that? There was the Grand Alignment (the Great Conjunction) back in the '80s,and nothing happened.- Original Message -From: "Mr. Worf" hellomahog...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:31:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Time-travelling Higgs sabotages the LHC. No, really 


This kind of all falls into the 2012 Doomsday scenarios. There are at least one real possibility of something happening when the solar system aligns itself around Dec 2012. 
On Wed, Oct 14,