date:20100615

That I doubt, Keith.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

The event is supposed to go on again this week, with significantly
increased police and other security.
It's Dream Girls, which will bring a black crowd. Now that blacks are
seen as having been the instigators, and it's a black movie, I wonder if a
lot of folks will stay away?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:16:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 50 Worst Inventions

You just might be at that, Keith! Always thought of myself a city kid,
having been born in Philly and raised in Noo Yawk, D.C., Baltimore and
L.A.,, but I've become sedentary in my middle age.

And it's a shame, that those kids apparently didn't get any home training
before then blundered out the door. I was planning on taking in a few on the
Green myself.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

Ha! I think I'm more of a city person than you, perhaps? I'm in downtown
Atlanta and Decatur several times a week, for eating out, walking in the
park,or just to take a drive. I wanted to take my wife to the Screen on the
Green, but unfortunately young teens have ruined it for the moment with the
fightig and throwing rocks at cars fiasco.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:03:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 50 Worst Inventions

Then I need to get out more...

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
wrote:

Oh yeah. I see cops and those ambassadors--the people who got their start
with the Olympics and who function as guides and aids for visitors--on
Segways all the time. I also see mall security guards using them at
locations such as Lenox.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:13:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 50 Worst Inventions

Keith, you've seen folks here in Atlanta using Segways in the streets?
Brave folks. Last time I walked Downtown I was almost run over. And I was
nowhere near the curb.

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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:

I disagree about Segway and Betamax. The former is used quite widely
by security guards and police in airports, malls, and city streets, such
as
here in Atlanta, where I see cops and guides using it all the time. I
think
it's a device that may be a bit ahead of the masses' understanding and
appreciation of its potential. My same assessment for Betamax, which was
clearly superior to VHS. That it failed isn't an indication that it was a
bad product, so much as the people and industry didn't appreciate it.

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:44:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] The 50 Worst Inventions

I don't agree with some of these but Time magazine isn't always
accurate.

The 50 Worst Inventions

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1991915,00.html

Worst Inventions

-
Segwayhttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991902,00.html
- New
Cokehttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991730,00.html
-
Clippyhttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991755,00.html
- Agent
Orangehttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991756,00.html
-
CueCathttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991857,00.html
- Subprime
Mortgageshttp://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1991915_1991909_1991912,00.html
-

Re: [scifinoir2] Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

And, of course, they're hesitant to put any into a fund to repair the damage
to the environment their lack of actions precipitated. [?]

I heard that there was a chance that BP would be put into receivership until
the full costs of the damage were covered. Here's hoping that it comes to
fruition.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

I looked at BP's financial statements a little while ago. They actually
made 8.6 billion before expenses in the last two quarters. (each quarter)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Two words, Mr Worf.

Cayman Islands.

And that feigned worry is their way of tweaking the heartstrings of those
in Congress who want the lobby money to keep flying into their wallets.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

My question has always been what do they do with all of that money? Just
one company like Pfizer pulls in 10s of billions a year. Where is that money
going?

It reminds me of oil companies. BP makes about 4-6 billion a quarter.
They have thousands of wells all over the world. One well goes bad and they
are worried about the company failing? come on!

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Mr Worf, I have a friend who looked into that once. She wouldn't give
details, but it pushed her to hate Big Pharma.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

That is a strong possibility. It also makes me wonder how many other
cures were created then silenced in the name of big money?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Mr Worf, I figure they'll just infiltrate an operative and sabotage
the process at some point.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

They'll figure out a way to maneuver around this.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Big Pharma weeps at the thought of this, Mr Worf.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Mr. Worf
hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

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Re: [scifinoir2] Regenerative body parts in the works

I'll gladly point the finger at Big Pharma again, Mr Worf. If I had a lung
to replace the one I lost to COPD, I'd be about $230 richer every month.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 A couple of years ago a Utah biotech company claimed to have regrown a
 man's thumb. (it got hacked off) The spokesperson for the company and the
 guy that had his thumb grown back was on several tv shows including Oprah
 but where is that technology now? Your guess is as good as mine.



 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, here's me hoping that they can sort out lungs as well.


 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



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Re: [scifinoir2] Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

I hope so, but they will fight it tooth and nail.

Can you imagine if Bush was in office when this happened? (I shiver at the
thought)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

And, of course, they're hesitant to put any into a fund to repair the
damage to the environment their lack of actions precipitated. [?]

I heard that there was a chance that BP would be put into receivership
until the full costs of the damage were covered. Here's hoping that it comes
to fruition.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

I looked at BP's financial statements a little while ago. They actually
made 8.6 billion before expenses in the last two quarters. (each quarter)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Two words, Mr Worf.

Cayman Islands.

And that feigned worry is their way of tweaking the heartstrings of those
in Congress who want the lobby money to keep flying into their wallets.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

My question has always been what do they do with all of that money? Just
one company like Pfizer pulls in 10s of billions a year. Where is that
money
going?

It reminds me of oil companies. BP makes about 4-6 billion a quarter.
They have thousands of wells all over the world. One well goes bad and they
are worried about the company failing? come on!

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
wrote:

Mr Worf, I have a friend who looked into that once. She wouldn't give
details, but it pushed her to hate Big Pharma.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

That is a strong possibility. It also makes me wonder how many other
cures were created then silenced in the name of big money?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Mr Worf, I figure they'll just infiltrate an operative and sabotage
the process at some point.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mr. Worf
hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

They'll figure out a way to maneuver around this.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Big Pharma weeps at the thought of this, Mr Worf.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
wrote:

Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

By Ben Coxworth http://www.gizmag.com/author/ben-coxworth/

*16:53 June 10, 2010*
[image: The swine flu
virus]http://www.gizmag.com/cure-for-all-types-of-flu-on-the-way/15380/picture/116066/

Re: [scifinoir2] Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

(joining you in that shiver)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

I hope so, but they will fight it tooth and nail.

Can you imagine if Bush was in office when this happened? (I shiver at the
thought)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

And, of course, they're hesitant to put any into a fund to repair the
damage to the environment their lack of actions precipitated. [?]

I heard that there was a chance that BP would be put into receivership
until the full costs of the damage were covered. Here's hoping that it comes
to fruition.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

I looked at BP's financial statements a little while ago. They actually
made 8.6 billion before expenses in the last two quarters. (each quarter)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Two words, Mr Worf.

Cayman Islands.

And that feigned worry is their way of tweaking the heartstrings of
those in Congress who want the lobby money to keep flying into their
wallets.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

My question has always been what do they do with all of that money?
Just one company like Pfizer pulls in 10s of billions a year. Where is
that
money going?

It reminds me of oil companies. BP makes about 4-6 billion a quarter.
They have thousands of wells all over the world. One well goes bad and
they
are worried about the company failing? come on!

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Mr Worf, I have a friend who looked into that once. She wouldn't give
details, but it pushed her to hate Big Pharma.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

That is a strong possibility. It also makes me wonder how many other
cures were created then silenced in the name of big money?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Mr Worf, I figure they'll just infiltrate an operative and sabotage
the process at some point.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mr. Worf
hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

They'll figure out a way to maneuver around this.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Big Pharma weeps at the thought of this, Mr Worf.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Mr. Worf
hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

Cure for all types of flu could be on the way

By Ben Coxworth http://www.gizmag.com/author/ben-coxworth/

*16:53 June 10, 2010*
[image: The swine flu
virus]http://www.gizmag.com/cure-for-all-types-of-flu-on-the-way/15380/picture/116066/

[scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

2010-06-15 Thread B Smith

Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their team has 
scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the season premiere 
of True Blood and got this treat.

http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true

http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones

The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't wait.

Re: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

B, you and the missus weren't alone in that screaming. [?] I want to call
DirecTV to upgrade my package to get HBO, but ATT's chosen today to be a
sack of crap that sucks dollars from my wallet and not provide phone
service.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:46 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their team
 has scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the season
 premiere of True Blood and got this treat.

 http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true


 http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones

 The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't
 wait.

  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
330.gif

[scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding



Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he avoided 
his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on parole??  And 
damn, what a commentary, to skip out on parole rather than being with your 
wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one! 



As far as him saying he was a different person, and the fact that he likely had 
mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a conservative 
co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I oppose. I asked him 
if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent and become a new man, 
as the Bible says. 

Yes, he said, I believe some people do evil things but can in time, with 
God's help, change 

So, I asked, then you see my point, that some people can after years become 
different than the murderers they once were. The average death row inmate's in 
jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a completely 
different human being. 

He responded, You're right. That's why we need to start executing people as 
fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better people. 



Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that... 



** 


By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press Writer – 
Tue Jun 15, 5:55 am ET 


HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's past, 
had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted man. 



In an exclusive jailhouse interview with The Associated Press, Dryman detailed 
how he invented a whole new life, with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel 
business — and even volunteer work for local civic clubs. 

They just forgot about me, said Dryman, in his first interview since being 
caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. I was a 
prominent member of the community. 



That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came 
looking. 



Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the 
hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time. 

Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good 
fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a while 
he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his days in 
the Navy in 1948. 



Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind bars , likely for what remains of his 
life. 



He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and started 
poking around. 

Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a cold 
and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of his own 
car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that he's not the 
same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the time of the 
murder , and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was 
going by yet another name: Frank Valentine. 

That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded, Dryman says of his crime. I 
didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me. 



Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen. 



Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana 
Parole Board not accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision 
was not impressed with Dryman's subsequent good deeds. Last month the board 
sent him back behind bars to serve what remains of his life sentence . 



Dryman said he disappeared from parole in California to get away from a wife he 
didn't like. He said he's not sure why he just didn't leave the wife and remain 
on parole. But once gone, he said, he didn't look back. His new wife and family 
knew nothing of his past. He put down roots in Arizona City painting signs, a 
trade learned in prison, and performing weddings. 



I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never looked 
over my shoulder, Dryman said. I just forgot about it. 



On his birthday he used to get two cards from his brother: one for Houston and 
one for Valentine. 

I thought it was cute. I had no fear, Dryman said. 

He said the details of his past are just coming back: the shooting, his 
original sentence and the cause he became for opponents of the death penalty, 
and his first stint in prison . 



Only since I have been back here did I start to think about it, said Dryman. 
To be honest, I didn't even remember the victim's name . 



Dryman understands he is not likely to get out again now. And he is not kindly 
disposed to the victim's grandson, the Bellevue, Wash., oral surgeon who became 
intensely interested in a piece of family history he knew nothing about. Clem 
Pellett compiled reams of old documents and tracked down his grandfather's 
killer with the help of a private investigator. 



I can't blame him for what he did, Dryman

Re: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

2010-06-15 Thread Bosco Bosco

Um given HBO's track record for fantastic television, Ima predict greatness. I 
dont even like the fantasy stuff so much but I'll be watchin this fer sure dude.

B

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:46 AM

  Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their team 
has scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the season 
premiere of True Blood and got this treat.

http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true

http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones

The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't wait.

[scifinoir2] Re: First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

2010-06-15 Thread B Smith

A Song of Ice and Fire is fantasy for folks that don't like the Tolkienesque 
trappings. It's probably closer in feel to Rome or The Tudors than The Lord of 
the Rings.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote:

 Um given HBO's track record for fantastic television, Ima predict greatness. 
 I dont even like the fantasy stuff so much but I'll be watchin this fer sure 
 dude.
 
 B
 
 --- On Tue, 6/15/10, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:
 
 From: B Smith daikaij...@...
 Subject: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:46 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Â 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their 
 team has scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the 
 season premiere of True Blood and got this treat.
 
 
 
 http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true
 
 
 
 http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones
 
 
 
 The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't wait.

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

I'm not sure that I can feel any sympathy for this guy, Keith, because I'm
not buying his story. Nothing I can put my finger on, mind you. Just my
Little Voice chatting me up.

And I'm as speechless as you, after reading that... [?]

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he
 avoided his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on
 parole??  And damn, what a commentary, to skip out on parole rather than
 being with your wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one!



 As far as him saying he was a different person, and the fact that he likely
 had mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a
 conservative co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I
 oppose. I asked him if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent
 and become a new man, as the Bible says.

 Yes, he said, I believe some people do evil things but can in time, with
 God's help, change

 So, I asked, then you see my point, that some people can after years
 become different than the murderers they once were. The average death row
 inmate's in jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a
 completely different human being.

 He responded, You're right. That's why we need to start executing people
 as fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better
 people.



 Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...



 **


 By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press
 Writer – Tue Jun 15, 5:55 am ET

 HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's
 past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted
 man.



 In an exclusive jailhouse 
 interviewhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#with The 
 Associated Press, Dryman detailed how he invented a whole new life,
 with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel business — and even volunteer
 work for local civic clubs.

 They just forgot about me, said Dryman, in his first interview since
 being caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. I was a
 prominent member of the community.



 That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came
 looking.



 Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the
 hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time.

 Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good
 fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a
 while he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his
 days in the Navy in 1948.



 Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind 
 barshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 likely for what remains of his life.



 He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and
 started poking around.

 Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a
 cold and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of
 his own car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that
 he's not the same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the 
 time
 of the murder http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was going by
 yet another name: Frank Valentine.

 That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded, Dryman says of his crime. I
 didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me.



 Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen.



 Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana 
 Parole
 Board http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive# not
 accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision was not
 impressed with Dryman's subsequent good deeds. Last month the board sent him
 back behind bars to serve what remains of his life 
 sentencehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#
 .



 Dryman said he disappeared from parole in California to get away from a
 wife he didn't like. He said he's not sure why he just didn't leave the wife
 and remain on parole. But once gone, he said, he didn't look back. His new
 wife and family knew nothing of his past. He put down roots in Arizona City
 painting signs, a trade learned in prison, and performing weddings.



 I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never
 looked over my shoulder, Dryman said. I just forgot about it.



 On his birthday he used to get two cards from his brother: one for Houston
 and one for Valentine.

 I thought it was cute. I had no fear, Dryman said.

 He said the details of his past are just coming back: the shooting, his
 original sentence and the cause he became for opponents of the

Re: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

Bosco, I'm hoping that the mini measures up to the books.

And that's a tall order.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Um given HBO's track record for fantastic television, Ima predict
 greatness. I dont even like the fantasy stuff so much but I'll be watchin
 this fer sure dude.

 B

 --- On *Tue, 6/15/10, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:46 AM




 Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their team
 has scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the season
 premiere of True Blood and got this treat.

 http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true


 http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones

 The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't
 wait.


  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

2010-06-15 Thread Tracy Curtis

The part where he says it's unfair that his victim's grandson spent money on
the investigation galls me.  He's acting as though he didn't take a life.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 I'm not sure that I can feel any sympathy for this guy, Keith, because I'm
 not buying his story. Nothing I can put my finger on, mind you. Just my
 Little Voice chatting me up.

 And I'm as speechless as you, after reading that... [?]

 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he
 avoided his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on
 parole??  And damn, what a commentary, to skip out on parole rather than
 being with your wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one!



 As far as him saying he was a different person, and the fact that he
 likely had mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a
 conservative co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I
 oppose. I asked him if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent
 and become a new man, as the Bible says.

 Yes, he said, I believe some people do evil things but can in time,
 with God's help, change

 So, I asked, then you see my point, that some people can after years
 become different than the murderers they once were. The average death row
 inmate's in jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a
 completely different human being.

 He responded, You're right. That's why we need to start executing people
 as fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better
 people.



 Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...



 **


 By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press
 Writer – Tue Jun 15, 5:55 am ET

 HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's
 past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted
 man.



 In an exclusive jailhouse 
 interviewhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#with The 
 Associated Press, Dryman detailed how he invented a whole new life,
 with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel business — and even volunteer
 work for local civic clubs.

 They just forgot about me, said Dryman, in his first interview since
 being caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. I was a
 prominent member of the community.



 That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came
 looking.



 Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the
 hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time.

 Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good
 fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a
 while he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his
 days in the Navy in 1948.



 Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind 
 barshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 likely for what remains of his life.



 He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and
 started poking around.

 Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a
 cold and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of
 his own car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that
 he's not the same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the 
 time
 of the murder http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was going by
 yet another name: Frank Valentine.

 That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded, Dryman says of his crime.
 I didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me.



 Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen.



 Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana 
 Parole
 Board http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive# not
 accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision was not
 impressed with Dryman's subsequent good deeds. Last month the board sent him
 back behind bars to serve what remains of his life 
 sentencehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#
 .



 Dryman said he disappeared from parole in California to get away from a
 wife he didn't like. He said he's not sure why he just didn't leave the wife
 and remain on parole. But once gone, he said, he didn't look back. His new
 wife and family knew nothing of his past. He put down roots in Arizona City
 painting signs, a trade learned in prison, and performing weddings.



 I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never
 looked over my shoulder, Dryman said. I just forgot about it.



 On his birthday he used to get two cards from his

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

Well, he admitted the crime. No "I was framed" denial. What is it you don't buy? The reason for skipping out on something as simple as his parole even though he was basically a free man? That is odd indeed. It'd be different if maybe he said the community wouldn't give him a break because they still remembered his crime, and maybe he felt threatened or something.
- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:35:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in "Hiding"

I'm not sure that I can feel any sympathy for this guy, Keith, because I'm not buying his story. Nothing I can put my finger on, mind you. Just my Little Voice chatting me up.And I'm as speechless as you, after reading that...
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:

Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he avoided his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on parole?? And damn, what a commentary, toskip out on parole rather than being with your wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one!

As far as him sayinghe was a different person, and the fact that he likely had mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a conservative co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I oppose. I asked him if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent and become a new man, as the Bible says.
"Yes", he said, "I believe some people do evil things but can in time, with God's help, change"
"So", I asked, "then you see my point, that some people can after years become different than the murderers they once were. The average death row inmate's in jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a completely different human being".
He responded, "You're right. That's why we need to start executing people as fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better people".

Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...

By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press Writer – TueJun15, 5:55amET

HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted man.

In an exclusive jailhouse interview with The Associated Press, Dryman detailed how he invented a whole new life, with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel business — and even volunteer work for local civic clubs.
"They just forgot about me," said Dryman, in his first interview since being caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. "I was a prominent member of the community."

That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came looking.

Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time.
Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a while he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his days in the Navy in 1948.

Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind bars, likely for what remains of his life.

He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and started poking around.
Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a cold and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of his own car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that he's not the same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the time of the murder, and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was going by yet another name: Frank Valentine.
"That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded," Dryman says of his crime. "I didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me.

"Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen."

Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana Parole Board not accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision was not impressed with Dryman's subsequent good deeds. Last month the board sent him back behind bars to serve what remains of his life sentence.

Dryman said he disappeared from parole in California to get away from a wife he didn't like. He said he's not sure why he just didn't leave the wife and remain on parole. But once gone, he said, he didn't look back. His new wife and family knew nothing of his past. He put down roots in Arizona City painting signs, a trade learned in prison, and performing weddings.

"I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never looked over my shoulder," Dryman said. "I just forgot about it."

On his birthday he used to get two cards from

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

That is true. That is a very odd statement, given the brutal crime, and the fact he couldn't even finish out his parole term. The fact he wasn't executed or originally locked away forever are blessings already.
- Original Message -From: "Tracy Curtis" tlcurti...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:40:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in "Hiding"

The part where he says it's unfair that his victim's grandson spent money on the investigation galls me. He's acting as though he didn't take a life.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...

By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press Writer – TueJun15, 5:55amET

HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted man.

That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came looking.

Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind bars, likely for what remains of his life.

"Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen."

"I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never looked over my shoulder," Dryman

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

I just can't put a finger on it, Keith.

Well, I can.

He ducked parole *and* his family. Then started *another* family. And the
statement that Tracy commented on -- speaks to me of borderline sociopathy.
No concern for the emotional distress of the grandson, just unfair

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

 Well, he admitted the crime. No I was framed denial. What is it you don't
 buy? The reason for skipping out on something as simple as his parole even
 though he was basically a free man?
 That is odd indeed. It'd be different if maybe he said the community
 wouldn't give him a break because they still remembered his crime, and maybe
 he felt threatened or something.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:35:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding



 I'm not sure that I can feel any sympathy for this guy, Keith, because I'm
 not buying his story. Nothing I can put my finger on, mind you. Just my
 Little Voice chatting me up.

 And I'm as speechless as you, after reading that...

 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



  Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he
 avoided his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on
 parole??  And damn, what a commentary, to skip out on parole rather than
 being with your wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one!



 As far as him saying he was a different person, and the fact that he
 likely had mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a
 conservative co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I
 oppose. I asked him if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent
 and become a new man, as the Bible says.

 Yes, he said, I believe some people do evil things but can in time,
 with God's help, change

 So, I asked, then you see my point, that some people can after years
 become different than the murderers they once were. The average death row
 inmate's in jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a
 completely different human being.

 He responded, You're right. That's why we need to start executing people
 as fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better
 people.



 Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...



 **


 By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press
 Writer – Tue Jun 15, 5:55 am ET

 HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's
 past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted
 man.



 In an exclusive jailhouse 
 interviewhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#with The 
 Associated Press, Dryman detailed how he invented a whole new life,
 with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel business — and even volunteer
 work for local civic clubs.

 They just forgot about me, said Dryman, in his first interview since
 being caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. I was a
 prominent member of the community.



 That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came
 looking.



 Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the
 hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time.

 Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good
 fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a
 while he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his
 days in the Navy in 1948.



 Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind 
 barshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 likely for what remains of his life.



 He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and
 started poking around.

 Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a
 cold and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of
 his own car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that
 he's not the same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the 
 time
 of the murder http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was going by
 yet another name: Frank Valentine.

 That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded, Dryman says of his crime.
 I didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me.



 Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen.



 Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana 
 Parole
 Board http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive# not
 accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision was not
 impressed with Dryman's

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Fugitive Caught After 40 Years in Hiding

There's a movie in this.

Just remind your friend of the numerous prisoners that were framed and later
released because of dna evidence. How many people were executed that may
have been innocent? Meanwhile, the real criminal is probably free and went
on to commit more crimes. Once they execute someone it is considered case
closed.



On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Wow. What really sucks is that he's going to die in jail not because he
 avoided his just sentence for the murder, but because he skipped out on
 parole??  And damn, what a commentary, to skip out on parole rather than
 being with your wife? Not sure Dr. Phil could even save that one!



 As far as him saying he was a different person, and the fact that he likely
 had mental problems: a few years ago I got into a long debate with a
 conservative co-worker who strongly supports the death penalty, which I
 oppose. I asked him if, as a Christian, he believed a man could truly repent
 and become a new man, as the Bible says.

 Yes, he said, I believe some people do evil things but can in time, with
 God's help, change

 So, I asked, then you see my point, that some people can after years
 become different than the murderers they once were. The average death row
 inmate's in jail for over a decade, and in that time, you could be killing a
 completely different human being.

 He responded, You're right. That's why we need to start executing people
 as fast as possible, so they don't have time to change and become better
 people.



 Uncharacteristically, I had nothing to say after that...



 **


 By MATT GOURAS, Associated Press Writer Matt Gouras, Associated Press
 Writer – Tue Jun 15, 5:55 am ET

 HELENA, Mont. – The aging Frank Dryman, a notorious killer from Montana's
 past, had hidden in plain sight for so long that he forgot he was a wanted
 man.



 In an exclusive jailhouse 
 interviewhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#with The 
 Associated Press, Dryman detailed how he invented a whole new life,
 with a new family, an Arizona wedding chapel business — and even volunteer
 work for local civic clubs.

 They just forgot about me, said Dryman, in his first interview since
 being caught and sent back to the prison he last left in the 1960s. I was a
 prominent member of the community.



 That is, until the grandson of the man he shot six times in the back came
 looking.



 Dryman had been one step ahead of the law since 1951 when he avoided the
 hangman's noose, a relic of frontier justice still in use at the time.

 Less than 20 years later he was out on parole. Not content with that good
 fortune, he skipped out and evaded authorities for four decades. After a
 while he even forgot about hiding and signed up for V.A. benefits from his
 days in the Navy in 1948.



 Now the 79-year-old Dryman is back behind 
 barshttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 likely for what remains of his life.



 He was caught only after his long-ago victim's grandson got curious and
 started poking around.

 Dryman was hitching a ride from Shelby cafe owner Clarence Pellett on a
 cold and snowy day in 1951 when he pulled a gun and ordered Pellett out of
 his own car and began firing. Dryman does not deny the crime — just that
 he's not the same man today. He has been Victor Houston for decades. At the 
 time
 of the murder http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#,
 and after being discharged from the Navy for mental issues, he was going by
 yet another name: Frank Valentine.

 That kid, Frank Valentine, he just exploded, Dryman says of his crime. I
 didn't shoot that man in the back. That wild kid did. That's not me.



 Victor Houston tried to make up for it by being an honor citizen.



 Dryman says he served his time, which he did until paroled. But a Montana 
 Parole
 Board http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive# not
 accustomed to leniency on those who walk away from supervision was not
 impressed with Dryman's subsequent good deeds. Last month the board sent him
 back behind bars to serve what remains of his life 
 sentencehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wedding_chapel_fugitive#
 .



 Dryman said he disappeared from parole in California to get away from a
 wife he didn't like. He said he's not sure why he just didn't leave the wife
 and remain on parole. But once gone, he said, he didn't look back. His new
 wife and family knew nothing of his past. He put down roots in Arizona City
 painting signs, a trade learned in prison, and performing weddings.



 I never thought I was a parole violator. I was Victor Houston. I never
 looked over my shoulder, Dryman said. I just forgot about it.



 On his birthday he used to get two cards from his brother: one for Houston
 and one for Valentine.

 I thought it was cute. I had no fear, Dryman said.

 He said the details of his past are

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Re: [scifinoir2] First Look At HBO's A Game Of Thrones

Was that the kid from Juno in one of the short cuts?

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Why did my wife and I scream like world cup soccer fans after their team
 has scored a goal when we saw this trailer? We were waiting for the season
 premiere of True Blood and got this treat.

 http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=gridvid=1100909autoplay=true


 http://io9.com/5562558/first-ever-trailer-for-hbos-fantasy-epic-game-of-thrones

 The trailer doesn't show much but the mood and feel are spot on. I can't
 wait.



 

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More than 1,400 years old, the Vevchanski Carnival held in the Macedonian
village of Vevchani, blends pagan and contemporary traditions, drawing huge
crowds every year. The entire village becomes a giant theater and every
street and household is a different scene where people dress-up and become
actors.

The three traditional masks of the Vevchanski Carnival are the bride, the
groom and August the fool, all the others are worn by groups of people
openly mocking the events and personalities of every-day life. Judging by
the photos, the people of the Vevchanski Carnival have a thing for blood and
the grotesque.

[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

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[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

[image: Creepy Carnival in Macedonia]

The Vevchanski Carnival takes place every year on the 13 and 14 of January,
leading up to the first day of the new year, judging by the old calendar.

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