Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye
The mere thought of a woman being abused in any way sets my teeth on edge, Keith. Even the few I really don't like in my life. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Conspiracy Series Rubicon - Sneak Preview Tonight
Dang it! Time to hit the website... On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: AMC is airing the pilot ep right now. I'm checking it out... - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:48:48 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Conspiracy Series Rubicon Debuts on AMC in August Wow, another new cable series? Like I said before, there's so much on TNT, AMC, FX, USA, and the premium channels, you almost don't have to watch the Big Three (Four?) In fact, I think just about all of my fav shows are on cable: Burn Notice, Warehouse 13, Eureka, In Plain Sight, Royal Pains. The broadcast channels have some I like, such as The Good Guys, Friday Night Lights, Numb3rs. I still don't know much about Rubicon, but its being on AMC bodes well. Who knew that AMC had set a record for number of consecutive Drama Emmy awards? ** http://www.amctv.com/originals/Rubicon/about *AMC's NEWEST ORIGINAL SERIES: RUBICON* * * AMC production on *Rubicon*, its newest original drama series, began on Monday, March 29 in New York City. The show is a conspiracy thriller starring James Badge Dale (who earlier this year headlined HBO’s *The Pacific*) as an analyst at a New York City-based federal intelligence agency who is thrown into a story where nothing is as it appears to be. Henry Bromell (*Homicide, Chicago Hope, Brotherhood*) has signed on as showrunner. The one-hour, 13-episode weekly series is produced by Warner Horizon Television and premieres this summer. (Click here to watch a sneak preview of *Rubicon*.)http://www.amctv.com/videos/rubicon?bcpid=85690147001bclid=91388070001bctid=91388070001 http://www.amctv.com/videos/rubicon?bcpid=85690147001bclid=91388070001bctid=91388070001 *Rubicon* is an incredible story about trust and power born out of the desire to find a way to capture the intensity and mystery of the best conspiracy thrillers in a series. It is a show that appeals to everyone who has some skepticism about the relationship between big business and our government, which we think is pretty much everybody,” said Joel Stillerman, SVP of original programming, production and digital content for AMC. “Our stellar cast and creative team allow us to continue to present premium television on basic cable. The series cast includes James Badge Dale (*The Pacific, The Departed*), Oscar®-nominated actress Miranda Richardson (*Sleepy Hollow*), Dallas Roberts (*Walk the Line, Flicka, The L Word*), Jessica Collins (*The Nine, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation*), Christopher Evan Welch (*Vicky Cristina Barcelona*), Lauren Hodges (*Law Order*), and Arliss Howard (*Full Metal Jacket, Natural Born Killers, The Sandlot*). AMC’s Stillerman along with Susie Fitzgerald, senior vice president of scripted development and current programming and Jeremy Elice, vice president of original programming, will oversee the development and production of the new drama. *Rubicon’s* pilot was produced in New York City and was directed by acclaimed film and television helmer Allen Coulter (*The Sopranos, Hollywoodland, Damages, Nurse Jackie*) and Kerry Orent (*Michael Clayton, Rescue Me*) is the producer. Greenlit to a full series order in June 2009, *Rubicon* marks AMC’s third original series. In summer 2007, AMC debuted its first original drama *Mad Men*, which went on to receive unprecedented critical acclaim and garner history-making awards recognition, including back-to-back Emmy and the only series to ever win the Golden Globe, three times in a row, for best drama series on television. The series returns for a fourth season this summer. In January 2008, AMC premiered its second original series, *Breaking Bad*, which landed on countless critics' top ten lists and also won back-to-back Emmy Awards for outstanding lead actor for Bryan Cranston’s portrayal of lead character Walter White. The series returned for its third season on March 21. *About AMC* AMC reigns as the only network to ever win the Golden Globe® Award for Best Television Series - Drama three years in a row and the only basic cable network to win back-to-back Primetime Emmy® Awards for Outstanding Drama Series. Whether commemorating favorite films from every genre and decade from the most comprehensive library or creating acclaimed original productions, the AMC experience is an uncompromising celebration of great stories. AMC's original stories include the Emmy® Award-winning dramas *Mad Men* and *Breaking Bad*, and insightful non-scripted programming such as AMC News. AMC further demonstrates its commitment to the art of storytelling with curated movie franchises like AMC Hollywood Icon and AMC Complete Collection. Available in more than 95 million homes (Source: Nielsen Media Research), AMC is a subsidiary of Rainbow Media
Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot
Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie. What is it you ask? It is a scifi / musical about a robot. In keeping with India's long tradition of musical numbers appearing in inappropriate places, this fits right in doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Ps4eTQJrk -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 327.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] The Search for Dark Energy has a New Weapon
Loving the thought of this. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The Search for Dark Energy has a New Weapon http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.html/498344566/Top3/default/empty.gif/5350666142307848534e774143362b62?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/nicole-gugliucci/ Analysis by Nicole Gugliucci http://news.discovery.com/contributors/nicole-gugliucci/ Sat Jul 24, 2010 03:10 PM ET 1 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.html?print=true Email - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.htmltitle=The%20Search%20for%20Dark%20Energy%20has%20a%20New%20Weapon%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.htmltitle=The%20Search%20for%20Dark%20Energy%20has%20a%20New%20Weapon%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=What%20is%20causing%20the%20Universe%20to%20expand%20at%20an%20accelerated%20rate?%20Astronomers%20have%20demonstrated%20a%20new%20technique%20with%20the%20largest%20fully-steerable%20radio%20telescope%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/space/the-search-for-dark-energy-has-a-new-weapon.htmlsubmitHeadline=The%20Search%20for%20Dark%20Energy%20has%20a%20New%20Weapon%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Dark-matter-energy-625x450]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f279c262970b-pi The nature of dark energyhttp://news.discovery.com/space/one-step-closer-to-understanding-dark-energy.htmlis one of the outstanding problems in cosmology today. *Something* is causing the universe's expansion to accelerate, but what? Numerous techniques are being developed to attack this problem, and astronomers have demonstrated such a technique with the largest fully-steerable radio telescope http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2010/highzhi/. *SLIDE SHOW: Visualizing the inner workings of a Type Ia supernova -- the standard candle astronomers use to measure the effects of dark energy.http://news.discovery.com/space/argonne-supernova-simulation.html * [image: Dark-energy] *WATCH VIDEO: James Williams investigates the mysteries behind a dark force in the universe: dark energy.*http://news.discovery.com/videos/space-study-sheds-light-on-dark-energy.html Theories predict that acoustic, or sound waves, from the very early universe should have left their mark in a detectable way. (What if you could hear these soundshttp://www.astro.virginia.edu/%7Edmw8f/BBA_web/index_frames.html?) By measuring the large-scale structures left behind by the sound waves, astronomers may be able to make precise measurements of some of the parameters of dark energy http://news.discovery.com/dark-energy/, thus getting one step closer to determining its nature. Astronomers Tzu-Ching Chang, Jeffrey Peterson, Ue-Li Pen, and Kevin Bandura used the Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia to map large, faint structures of hydrogen gas. Hydrogen is the most common element in the galaxy, and hydrogen atoms give off a characteristic color of radio light. As they map the hydrogen in the universe on the largest scales, astronomers can search for the structures created by the universe's characteristic sound waves. However, mapping the most abundant element in the universe in this way isn't the easiest task. The team developed new techniques of mapping the faint hydrogen, as well as methods for removing stray radio interferences from man-made sources and from astronomical sources in the foreground. The work paid off as they detected hydrogen ten times further than had been done before. To unlock the universe's deepest secrets, astronomers find themselves working harder to find more clever techniques in order to detect fainter and more elusive signals. But isn't it the challenge that makes it more fun? *Caption: Computer simulation of large scale structure. Credit: Science Magazine* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Dwayne McDuffie and Stan Lee
Dwayne McDuffie (on Facebook): passed Stan Lee in lobby at Comic-Con. He smiled and called out, Hi, Dave! So he kinda knows me, is my point.
[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long Island
- Email?subject=Darth%20Vader%20Robs%20Bank%20In%20Long%20Islandbody=http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/darth-vader-robs-bank-in-long-island/ - Print javascript:window.print() - Spherehttp://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/darth-vader-robs-bank-in-long-island/ « Previous Posthttp://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/house-backs-bill-for-frederick-douglass-statue-at-capitol/ Next Post » http://newsone.com/obama/associated-press/obama-says-vilsack-jumped-the-gun-on-sherrod/ Times are hard for the empire. Give me all of your small bills... Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long IslandView Photos javascript:openGallery(); By Associated Press http://newsone.com/author/associatedpress3/ July 23, 2010 9:00 am [image: s-DARTH-VADER-BANK-ROBBER-large] SETAUKET, N.Y. – A man donning a Darth Vader mask at a New York bank has entered the dark side. Police say the man entered a Chase bank branch on Long Island on Thursday, displayed a gun and demanded money. A surveillance camera caught the “Star Wars” character wearing a blue cape and camouflage pants. The bandit escaped from the Setauket bank with an undetermined amount of cash. The robbery comes about a week after another bank robber, dubbed the “bouquet bandit,” held up a Manhattan bank. Authorities say Edward Pemberton used a flower bouquet to conceal a note demanding cash during a $440 bank heist July 15. They say he used a potted plant as a similar prop in a holdup at another bank earlier this month. *RELATED STORIES* BIZARRE: Leprechaun Robs Bank On St. Patrick’s Dayhttp://newsone.com/nation/associated-press/leprechaun-robs-bank-on-st-patricks-day/ Two Girls, Ages, 12 And 14, Rob Ohio Bank And Elude Policehttp://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/two-girls-ages-12-and-14-rob-ohio-bank-and-elude-police/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot
Firefox did another update on Saturday to address the problems with the new version of Flash. I think that all of this mess was a strategic plan by M$ to ruin Firefox. Every time there is a new m$ update something breaks in Firefox. The video itself has only a couple of stills from the movie. There is no real trailer for it yet. One of the pictures that they had released was the main star wearing a silver helmet and silver makeup sniffing a red flower, but that wasn't an official look of the robot. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie. What is it you ask? It is a scifi / musical about a robot. In keeping with India's long tradition of musical numbers appearing in inappropriate places, this fits right in doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Ps4eTQJrk -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 327.gif
[scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.
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[scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph
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[scifinoir2] Fwd: Web Urbanist: Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Home
Web Urbanist http://weburbanist.com http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgsfeedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/WebUrbanist -- Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Homehttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/WebUrbanist/%7E3/g8lG9IvclIk/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 25 Jul 2010 10:00 AM PDT [ By Steve http://weburbanist.com/steve in Abandoned Placeshttp://weburbanist.com/category/abandonments/, Architecture Design http://weburbanist.com/category/architecture/, History Factoids http://weburbanist.com/category/history/. ] Formerly spark plugs of the cold war, dozens of decades-old, decommissioned underground nuclear missile silos are slowly slipping into disrepair and decayhttp://weburbanist.com/2008/07/27/abandoned-buildings-property-and-other-places/2/. Not all of these relics are destined for the ash heap of history, however, a precious few are taking on new life as post-apocalyptic family homes – without the apocalypse. The best thing about living in a refurbished missile silo? Telling your kids, *“You can’t fight in here, this is the war room!”* Home, Home On The Firing Range (images via: UP-HAA http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/tag/home-silo/, Arms Control Wonkhttp://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/863/20th-century-castlesand Pyjamas Mediahttp://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/23/going-underground/ ) Why would anyone want to live in an old missile silohttp://gearcrave.com/2008-03-23/how-to-buy-your-own-missile-silo/? Let’s look at the positives, starting with the best construction work government money can buy. Then there’s the feeling of security that comes with living in a structure built to withstand tornadoes, hailstorms, wildfires and the odd Soviet pre-emptive nuclear strike. Home handyman types will find little to do besides changing light bulbs. A Real Fixer-Upper? (images via: Think Or Thwimhttp://thinkorthwim.com/2007/10/08/for-sale-by-owner-titan-missile-silo/and Artificial Owlhttp://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.html ) There are negatives, of course, that go beyond the lack of skylights, picture windows and kidney-shaped swimming pools. Though they were built to last, missile siloshttp://dornob.com/ultimate-underground-home-converted-nuclear-missile-silo/and their associated infrastructure did require maintenance of the preventive variety. The oddly beautiful installation above is the Stanley R. Mickelsen Safeguard complexhttp://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.htmlin Nekoma, North Dakota: the only operational anti-ballistic missile (ABM) base ever completed and dating from the late 1960s. ABMs were designed to protect ICBM sites from attack by enemy missiles, in other words protecting our protectors. (images via: English Russiahttp://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008/12/26/abandoned-missile-launch-site/, Getty Imageshttp://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/83401677/Photonica?language=en-USlocation=CANand Telstar Logisticshttp://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.html ) A missile basehttp://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.htmlthat was completely neglected for years may have a number of daunting issues any new owner must deal with before moving in such as flooding, mold and structural settling. Got a sticky set of blast doors? That’ll require more than just a few shots of WD40. Blasts From The Past (images via: Gypsy Journal http://www.gypsyjournal.net/titan.htm and Wikimediahttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Minuteman_II_in_silo_1980.jpg ) Most nuclear missile sites comprise much more than the actual missile silo. Underground control complexes attached to the silo by tunnels provided personnel with long-term living facilities (kitchens, bathrooms etc.) and these are the portions most often chosen for home conversion. Even so, life at an updated missile base isn’t a bowl of cherries – and there are usually few stores or supermarkets nearby from which to procure said cherries. (image via: Expedition Portalhttp://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25705 ) For obvious reasons, nuclear missile bases were located in places with sparse population and negligible infrastructure. The image above shows an old Titan -1 Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) launching base located east of Denver, Colorado. Electrical power, gas water, waste disposal and the lack of friendly (or often ANY) neighbors are serious considerations for anyone contemplating living in a renovated silo. My Home Is My Subterra Castle (images via: Jiaju http://jiaju.xooob.com/fgsj/200912/395945_1037633.htmland Trip Advisorhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g38671-d1010044-Reviews-Subterra_Castle-Dover_Kansas.html ) When luck is on their side, homeowners can acquire a decommissioned missile silo in good repair at
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
That's how you know that it is an American action film. :) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph
ahar...@earthlink.net Way cool! Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick 00:26 July 26, 2010 5 Pictures Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the students who worked on the robot Image Gallery (5 images) Dog Leash Walking - Iams.com/Dog-Leash Train Your Dog to Walk on a Leash with Easy to Follow Tips from Iams. San Francisco Dog Walking - www.allsmilespetcare.com Dog walking/pet sitting with love! Lic. Bonded. Insured. Fun. Robot for Prostate Cancer - www.InternationalHIFU.com Learn about ALL your options for prostate cancer therapy. 3D Prototype Machine - www.rolanddga.com Better Lifetime Value. No Fees and Lower Material Costs. Learn More! Ads by Google It might not have been setting a cracking pace, but a Cornell University robot named Ranger set an unofficial world record on July 6 when it walked 14.3 miles in about 11 hours on a single charge. The untethered, four-legged bipedal robot was steered around the 1/8-mile indoor track in Cornell’s Barton Hall by a human operator using a standard toy remote control some 108.5 times. On its record setting journey Ranger made 65,185 steps, beating the former record for an untethered legged robot of 12.8 miles set by Boston Dynamics’ BigDog. Standing still, Ranger looks a bit like a tall sawhorse and its gait suggests a human on crutches, alternately swinging forward two outside legs and then two inside ones. There are no knees, but its feet can flip up out of the way, while it swings its legs so that the robot can finish its step. The robot also features two blue foam “eyes” that are purely for fall protection, as are the black foam “ears.” One of the goals of the attempt was to show off the machine’s energy efficiency. Unlike other walking robots that use motors to control every movement, its creators say the Ranger appears more relaxed and in a way emulates human walking, using gravity and momentum to help swing its legs forward. It is powered by a 24.9V Lithium-ion battery and weighs a total of 18.6 lbs. Because the robot walked in lanes two and three, the distance per lap is a bit more than an eighth of a mile; its path was measured at 212.3 meters per lap, giving it a total walk distance of (212.3 m)(108.5) = 23,034 m = 23.0 kilometers = 14.3 miles. Over the course of its journey the robot’s average speed was 1.34 mph (2.15km/h) with 13.9-inches average distance per step and an average time per step of 59 seconds. Ranger's long walk started Monday at 2:08 p.m. and ended at 12:48 a.m. Tuesday July 6, 2010 when its batteries went dead, for a total walk time of 10 hours, 40 minutes, 48 seconds. This is not the first time Ranger has held the record. In April 2008 it strode about 5.6 miles around the Barton Hall to set the record, before Boston Dynamics’ quadruped robot claimed the title by traveling 12.8 miles without stopping or refueling. Also, two days before setting out on his record setting walk Ranger had walked 13 miles on one charge. So, not counting running out of juice, Ranger walked more than 27 miles without failure. Ranger was built by a group of engineering students led by Andy Ruina, Cornell professor of theoretical and applied mechanics, who says the new record not only advances robotics, but helps undergraduate students learn about the mechanics of walking. The information could be applied to rehabilitation, prostheses for humans and improving athletic performance, she says. Gallery Images a.. b.. c.. d.. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
I guess what I'm saying is, spy (or potential spy) is captured, then tortured. I've seen that happen to male spies and enemy combatants in movies a lot too... - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:55:10 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek: The Next Generation of Fandom
Okay, the Tattoos are taking it too far. Clearly if you're gonna have a Star Trek tat on your back you have to have some TOS represented! :) I have a lot of this stuff (the waffles were lame but they were also on sale, which was cool.) and it's part of the fun, at least for me. My wife thought about the TNG inspired top shown here, of course, without the badge. As a fan, I have one Trek merchandise regret. I was in Las Vegas, held the captain's suede jacket in my hand, in my size, and put it down. A year later the Star Trek Experience closed down. I would totally rock that jacket this fall. EVery time I see the jacket on eBay it's in a size (or two) too small. On Jul 25, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: Star Trek: The Next Generation of Fandom By Marc in Architecture Design, Furniture Interiors, Gadgets Geek Art Star Trek has been an ongoing phenomenon since its debut in 1966. Star Trek consists of 2 series on the USS Enterprise, 3 spin offs, an animated series, and 11 feature films. A franchise this long lasting and successful creates a loyal following that is interested in anything related to the series. Whether it’s Star Trek clothing, home decor, or tattoos, there are a plethora of awesome examples of the fierceness of Star Trek fans. From the fantastic to the ridiculous, here are 10 of the most interesting expressions of Star Trek fanaticism: (Images via voyageronline, norulesnoshame, mez love, tattoo22) Star Trek fans explore every means of showing off their passion for the Star Trek universe, and this includes tattoos. A lot of fans pay homage to their favorite characters (or the entire cast) by having portraits placed prominently on themselves, though the more subtle Star Trek fan may simply have a communicator tattooed to their chest. (Images via trekmovie, walyou) Even with the advanced technology in Star Trek, exploring the boundaries of space is a dangerous business, and there have been a lot of deaths throughout the series. The funeral rites in the Federation are beautiful and explored in detail. As with all things Star Trek, industrious companies have even learned to capitalize on funeral gear. Futuristic looking urns are available, as well as coffins that look identical to those in the series and films. (Images via product-reviews, techeblog, gearsandwidgets, reighn) Everything about the USS Enterprise is graceful and epic, as it is the flagship of the Federation’s fleet, and the pinnacle of human technological achievement. The Star Trek films deserve a fitting viewing space, preferably Star Trek themed. The most common Star Trek home theater design is the bridghe, with its signature sweeping railing and the Captain’s chair. (Images via neatorama, craziestgadgets, gearlive, geekalerts, geek- tastic, geeky-gadgets) Life is about the little things, and for the avid Trekkie, this involves USS Enterprise bottle openers, iPhone cases, cakes, pillow cases, car decorations… the list goes on and on. There are a million ways to subtly reveal your loyalty to the Federation. (Images via clothesmonaut, majorspoilers, ioffer, highsnobiety) If you’re truly proud to be a Trekkie, you’re not afraid to wear clothing that reflects it. Star Trek ties are a great way to bring your interests to work, while a pair of Spock inspired gloves will keep you showing your loyalties throughout the winter. If you’re on your way to a convention, you can always toss on your Star Trek uniform corset to really catch some nerdy attention. (Images via boingboing, geek24, makezine, walyou) Car enthusiasts like to customize their rides, and Star Trek enthusiasts are no different. When you can’t find a Star Trek themed accessory to meet your needs, you might as well make it. Some fans have created iPhone cases that look like the original Star Trek comm units, but the ultimate modification involves changing your main mode of transportation to blare your preferences to the world and brighten up the road. (Images via feelingstylish, geekologie, geeky-gadgets, movieties) Formal wear isn’t exempt from Star Trek fervor, with a booming cufflink industry keeping geek-centric companies in business. Several colognes and perfumes have been made, as well as luxurious watches and time pieces. Star Trek inspired jewelry is quite common, and people are willing to pay a high price for the more unique goods. (Images via product-reviews, funkybachelor, manolo) Your house is the ultimate expression of your taste and style, where you go to relax, or invite friends over for social activities. You have to be truly fanatical to drastically alter your home decor to reflect the atmosphere of your favorite television show. From illuminated wall displays to the smooth walls and low lighting of the interior of the USS Enterprise, these fans proudly display their Star Trek inspired
[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Except this appears to be universal. I mentioned earlier on this list how the Swedish thriller The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, which features one of the best kick-ass female characters EVER has to have the heroine sexually abused and sodomized before she can exact her steel-eyed vengeance. The Machine Girl in the Japanese movie of the same name must brutally attacked and be left for dead before she can engage in her chain saw massacre. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: That's how you know that it is an American action film. :) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Another eye-opener for me, rave. This reminds me of seeing The Outlaw Josey Wales for the first time in some years last week, realizing that Josey was a mild-mannered farmer until his wife and family were killed (with him suffering nothing more than a whack upside the head). The male-female double-standard at work again? [?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 320.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Monsters: Could This be This Year's Cloverfield/District 9?
Does sound good, B! On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I heard about this movie earlier this year and the teaser footage is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH9NswxZyAQfeature=player_embedded http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/24/movie-trailer-gareth-edwards-monsters/ The breakout hit of this years SXSW, Gareth Edwards' groundbreaking new film is as much a poignant contemporary romance as it is an epic science fiction adventure. Shot with just a five person crew and a cast of two, Gareth Edwards' team traveled through Guatemala, Belize and Mexico, finding and utilizing their locations and supporting actors as they went. The result is a film as cutting edge as it is classically composed, as emotionally satisfying as it is visually stunning, and the bold announcement of a major new talent. Six years ago NASA discovered the possibility of alien life within our solar system. A probe was launched to collect samples, but crashed upon re-entry over Central America. Soon after, new life forms began to appear and grow. In an effort to stem the destruction that resulted, half of Mexico was quarantined as an INFECTED ZONE. Today, the American and Mexican military still struggle to contain the massive creatures… Our story begins when a jaded US journalist (McNairy) begrudgingly agrees to find his bosses daughter, a shaken American tourist (Able) and escort her through the infected zone to the safety of the US border. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long Island
I don't get it, Mr Worf. Why would he need the gun? Just Force-choke a couple of the tellers, to get the message across. [?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: - Email?subject=Darth%20Vader%20Robs%20Bank%20In%20Long%20Islandbody=http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/darth-vader-robs-bank-in-long-island/ - Print - Spherehttp://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/darth-vader-robs-bank-in-long-island/ « Previous Posthttp://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/house-backs-bill-for-frederick-douglass-statue-at-capitol/ Next Post » http://newsone.com/obama/associated-press/obama-says-vilsack-jumped-the-gun-on-sherrod/ Times are hard for the empire. Give me all of your small bills... Darth Vader Robs Bank In Long Island View Photos By Associated Press http://newsone.com/author/associatedpress3/ July 23, 2010 9:00 am [image: s-DARTH-VADER-BANK-ROBBER-large] SETAUKET, N.Y. – A man donning a Darth Vader mask at a New York bank has entered the dark side. Police say the man entered a Chase bank branch on Long Island on Thursday, displayed a gun and demanded money. A surveillance camera caught the “Star Wars” character wearing a blue cape and camouflage pants. The bandit escaped from the Setauket bank with an undetermined amount of cash. The robbery comes about a week after another bank robber, dubbed the “bouquet bandit,” held up a Manhattan bank. Authorities say Edward Pemberton used a flower bouquet to conceal a note demanding cash during a $440 bank heist July 15. They say he used a potted plant as a similar prop in a holdup at another bank earlier this month. *RELATED STORIES* BIZARRE: Leprechaun Robs Bank On St. Patrick’s Dayhttp://newsone.com/nation/associated-press/leprechaun-robs-bank-on-st-patricks-day/ Two Girls, Ages, 12 And 14, Rob Ohio Bank And Elude Policehttp://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/two-girls-ages-12-and-14-rob-ohio-bank-and-elude-police/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 338.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
[scifinoir2] Discovery Channel Shark Building
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Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph
Oh, that's nice... now the bots can walk faster than I can, thus making it all the easier for them to kill me. [?][?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/ *00:26 July 26, 2010* 5 Pictureshttp://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/ [image: Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the student...]http://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/ Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the students who worked on the robot *Image Galleryhttp://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/(5 images) * Dog Leash Walkinghttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BvqPaIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9fg_-MB4cHx5xHAjbcB0ICCARABGAEgs9z6ASgEOABQmd2uggRgyY7whsijoBmgAZ2E8PsDsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gE-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3Jhbmdlci13YWxraW5nLXJvYm90LXdvcmxkLXJlY29yZC8xNTgyNi-AAgHIAp_LzROoAwHoA_UI6AOGBPUDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtzw3xnMsL5j_tZcjWG8us53wiLtuwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.iams.com/iams/pet-health/leash-training.jsp- Iams.com/Dog-Leashhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BvqPaIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9fg_-MB4cHx5xHAjbcB0ICCARABGAEgs9z6ASgEOABQmd2uggRgyY7whsijoBmgAZ2E8PsDsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gE-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3Jhbmdlci13YWxraW5nLXJvYm90LXdvcmxkLXJlY29yZC8xNTgyNi-AAgHIAp_LzROoAwHoA_UI6AOGBPUDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtzw3xnMsL5j_tZcjWG8us53wiLtuwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.iams.com/iams/pet-health/leash-training.jsp Train Your Dog to Walk on a Leash with Easy to Follow Tips from Iams. San Francisco Dog Walkinghttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BO-VsIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB92oh88BheuWqRPAjbcBkIW_ARACGAIgs9z6ASgEOABQ_6PXvvn_AWDJjvCGyKOgGbIBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9yYW5nZXItd2Fsa2luZy1yb2JvdC13b3JsZC1yZWNvcmQvMTU4MjYvqAMB6AP1COgDhgT1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtx3q4hib1A527traZUzivvwjpyoQgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.allsmilespetcare.com- www.allsmilespetcare.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BO-VsIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB92oh88BheuWqRPAjbcBkIW_ARACGAIgs9z6ASgEOABQ_6PXvvn_AWDJjvCGyKOgGbIBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9yYW5nZXItd2Fsa2luZy1yb2JvdC13b3JsZC1yZWNvcmQvMTU4MjYvqAMB6AP1COgDhgT1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtx3q4hib1A527traZUzivvwjpyoQgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.allsmilespetcare.com Dog walking/pet sitting with love! Lic. Bonded. Insured. Fun. Robot for Prostate Cancerhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=B73jPIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9PhkNABw8_K_BXAjbcBkJS6ARADGAMgs9z6ASgEOABQz56NJmDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7aDP_gOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxOQnkEVaV5xXWmJXOBq5m23P6YDAclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.internationalhifu.com/consider-your-options.html%3F_kk%3Drobot%2520prostate%26_kt%3D911a155d-905a-4522-ae05-19ac02fae28e- www.InternationalHIFU.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=B73jPIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9PhkNABw8_K_BXAjbcBkJS6ARADGAMgs9z6ASgEOABQz56NJmDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7aDP_gOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxOQnkEVaV5xXWmJXOBq5m23P6YDAclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.internationalhifu.com/consider-your-options.html%3F_kk%3Drobot%2520prostate%26_kt%3D911a155d-905a-4522-ae05-19ac02fae28e Learn about ALL your options for prostate cancer therapy. 3D Prototype Machinehttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BkDE0IZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9jT6bAB8LfKrwzAjbcB8MFNEAQYBCCz3PoBKAQ4AFDxr66ZBGDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7P2Y9QOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=4sig=AGiWqtylo7Yl2SuybfSePcULSR_qMI6cWQclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.rolanddga.com/solutions/rapidPrototyping/- www.rolanddga.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BkDE0IZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9jT6bAB8LfKrwzAjbcB8MFNEAQYBCCz3PoBKAQ4AFDxr66ZBGDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7P2Y9QOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=4sig=AGiWqtylo7Yl2SuybfSePcULSR_qMI6cWQclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.rolanddga.com/solutions/rapidPrototyping/ Better Lifetime Value. No Fees and Lower Material Costs. Learn More! Ads by
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the
Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
(standing ovation) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies,
Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot
Got those updates, for all that they were worth. I'll just stick it out, and hope that Firefox stops trying to build a developer-friendly set-up and just gets the basics down pat. Reminds me of what Gmail is also doing, pretty much the same thing. All the great functions you want on an airliner, but the demned thing keeps crashing. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox did another update on Saturday to address the problems with the new version of Flash. I think that all of this mess was a strategic plan by M$ to ruin Firefox. Every time there is a new m$ update something breaks in Firefox. The video itself has only a couple of stills from the movie. There is no real trailer for it yet. One of the pictures that they had released was the main star wearing a silver helmet and silver makeup sniffing a red flower, but that wasn't an official look of the robot. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie. What is it you ask? It is a scifi / musical about a robot. In keeping with India's long tradition of musical numbers appearing in inappropriate places, this fits right in doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Ps4eTQJrk -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 327.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Wow, sorry to hear about your unfortunate past, which is all too common in this world. But you make the point I was trying to make. Rave is right on, this is too much a gimmick in media. But in some contexts it may be germane to the story. A possible American spy captured by the North Koreans would indeed be tortured, and I can see this being done to a man--as it was done with Bond when he was captured by the N. Koreans in his movie. I didn't see the scene with Salt as exploitative, but reasonable in the context of this particular movie, be Salt a man or woman. Also, as you mentioned, there is an unfortunate truth that sexual assault, beating, and dehumanization of people is part of what happens in war and captivity. Men beat male prisoners, and stripping a prisoner naked is a universal method to make that person feel physically and mentally naked, a way to take away any semblance of physical or psychological protection from the prisoner. That is done to men and women, and no one is above doing it, such as our own beloved United States, which stripped Middle Eastern prisoners like this, and humiliated them in all sorts of psycho-sexual ways. Male prisoners are sexually abused more than we might believe. It is true, alas, that such abuse is more common on women. But again, in this case, I think the portrayal was realistic in the context of the movie. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:45:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Wow, sorry to hear about your unfortunate past, which is all too common in this world. Entirely too common. :( It's one of the things I've learned about in talking with others. People estimate it's one in four women; I'm going to boldly state it's more like three in four. But you make the point I was trying to make. Rave is right on, this is too much a gimmick in media. But in some contexts it may be germane to the story. A possible American spy captured by the North Koreans would indeed be tortured, and I can see this being done to a man--as it was done with Bond when he was captured by the N. Koreans in his movie. I didn't see the scene with Salt as exploitative, but reasonable in the context of this particular movie, be Salt a man or woman. I read an article that stated that this movie was originally meant to have a male lead but for whatever reason, Jolie won the role. If that scene was in there before then it's obviously not a chick thing. But *again*...depends on how it's done. Also, as you mentioned, there is an unfortunate truth that sexual assault, beating, and dehumanization of people is part of what happens in war and captivity. Men beat male prisoners, and stripping a prisoner naked is a universal method to make that person feel physically and mentally naked, a way to take away any semblance of physical or psychological protection from the prisoner. That is done to men and women, and no one is above doing it, such as our own beloved United States, which stripped Middle Eastern prisoners like this, and humiliated them in all sorts of psycho-sexual ways. Male prisoners are sexually abused more than we might believe. It is true, alas, that such abuse is more common on women. But again, in this case, I think the portrayal was realistic in the context of the movie. Well said! - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:45:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
*bows* I'll be here all week, try the falafel! ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: (standing ovation) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt
Re: [scifinoir2] Dwayne McDuffie and Stan Lee
[?] I guess... [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Dwayne McDuffie (on Facebook): passed Stan Lee in lobby at Comic-Con. He smiled and called out, Hi, Dave! So he kinda knows me, is my point. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 363.gif362.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot
Hmmm I haven't had any problems since the update. I spent a couple of hours yesterday looking at youtube. Which was fatal before this. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Got those updates, for all that they were worth. I'll just stick it out, and hope that Firefox stops trying to build a developer-friendly set-up and just gets the basics down pat. Reminds me of what Gmail is also doing, pretty much the same thing. All the great functions you want on an airliner, but the demned thing keeps crashing. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox did another update on Saturday to address the problems with the new version of Flash. I think that all of this mess was a strategic plan by M$ to ruin Firefox. Every time there is a new m$ update something breaks in Firefox. The video itself has only a couple of stills from the movie. There is no real trailer for it yet. One of the pictures that they had released was the main star wearing a silver helmet and silver makeup sniffing a red flower, but that wasn't an official look of the robot. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie. What is it you ask? It is a scifi / musical about a robot. In keeping with India's long tradition of musical numbers appearing in inappropriate places, this fits right in doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Ps4eTQJrk -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 327.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph
If they want to get you Martin, they will get you. It won't be a robot it will be your cellphone set to autodestruct or your toaster. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, that's nice... now the bots can walk faster than I can, thus making it all the easier for them to kill me. [?][?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Ranger walking robot sets new world record at 1.34mph By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/ *00:26 July 26, 2010* 5 Pictureshttp://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/ [image: Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the student...]http://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/ Cornell Ranger gets a walking buddy in Fatemeh Hasaneini, a daughter of one of the students who worked on the robot *Image Galleryhttp://www.gizmag.com/ranger-walking-robot-world-record/15826/picture/118331/(5 images) * Dog Leash Walkinghttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BvqPaIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9fg_-MB4cHx5xHAjbcB0ICCARABGAEgs9z6ASgEOABQmd2uggRgyY7whsijoBmgAZ2E8PsDsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gE-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3Jhbmdlci13YWxraW5nLXJvYm90LXdvcmxkLXJlY29yZC8xNTgyNi-AAgHIAp_LzROoAwHoA_UI6AOGBPUDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtzw3xnMsL5j_tZcjWG8us53wiLtuwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.iams.com/iams/pet-health/leash-training.jsp- Iams.com/Dog-Leashhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BvqPaIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9fg_-MB4cHx5xHAjbcB0ICCARABGAEgs9z6ASgEOABQmd2uggRgyY7whsijoBmgAZ2E8PsDsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gE-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3Jhbmdlci13YWxraW5nLXJvYm90LXdvcmxkLXJlY29yZC8xNTgyNi-AAgHIAp_LzROoAwHoA_UI6AOGBPUDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtzw3xnMsL5j_tZcjWG8us53wiLtuwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.iams.com/iams/pet-health/leash-training.jsp Train Your Dog to Walk on a Leash with Easy to Follow Tips from Iams. San Francisco Dog Walkinghttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BO-VsIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB92oh88BheuWqRPAjbcBkIW_ARACGAIgs9z6ASgEOABQ_6PXvvn_AWDJjvCGyKOgGbIBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9yYW5nZXItd2Fsa2luZy1yb2JvdC13b3JsZC1yZWNvcmQvMTU4MjYvqAMB6AP1COgDhgT1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtx3q4hib1A527traZUzivvwjpyoQgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.allsmilespetcare.com- www.allsmilespetcare.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BO-VsIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB92oh88BheuWqRPAjbcBkIW_ARACGAIgs9z6ASgEOABQ_6PXvvn_AWDJjvCGyKOgGbIBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9yYW5nZXItd2Fsa2luZy1yb2JvdC13b3JsZC1yZWNvcmQvMTU4MjYvqAMB6AP1COgDhgT1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtx3q4hib1A527traZUzivvwjpyoQgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.allsmilespetcare.com Dog walking/pet sitting with love! Lic. Bonded. Insured. Fun. Robot for Prostate Cancerhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=B73jPIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9PhkNABw8_K_BXAjbcBkJS6ARADGAMgs9z6ASgEOABQz56NJmDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7aDP_gOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxOQnkEVaV5xXWmJXOBq5m23P6YDAclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.internationalhifu.com/consider-your-options.html%3F_kk%3Drobot%2520prostate%26_kt%3D911a155d-905a-4522-ae05-19ac02fae28e- www.InternationalHIFU.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=B73jPIZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9PhkNABw8_K_BXAjbcBkJS6ARADGAMgs9z6ASgEOABQz56NJmDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7aDP_gOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxOQnkEVaV5xXWmJXOBq5m23P6YDAclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.internationalhifu.com/consider-your-options.html%3F_kk%3Drobot%2520prostate%26_kt%3D911a155d-905a-4522-ae05-19ac02fae28e Learn about ALL your options for prostate cancer therapy. 3D Prototype Machinehttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BkDE0IZFNTNSDJofujAT47dCJB9jT6bAB8LfKrwzAjbcB8MFNEAQYBCCz3PoBKAQ4AFDxr66ZBGDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7P2Y9QOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAT5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vcmFuZ2VyLXdhbGtpbmctcm9ib3Qtd29ybGQtcmVjb3JkLzE1ODI2L4ACAagDAegD9QjoA4YE9QMAAABEnum=4sig=AGiWqtylo7Yl2SuybfSePcULSR_qMI6cWQclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.rolanddga.com/solutions/rapidPrototyping/-
Re: [scifinoir2] Monsters: Could This be This Year's Cloverfield/District 9?
I loved the clip! That was the last thing that I thought that I would see floating out of the water. Unfortunately, I had the misfortune of watching a review of it thinking that it was an additional clip. :( Cool tidbit: The director made a lot of the effects on his laptop. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:49 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I heard about this movie earlier this year and the teaser footage is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH9NswxZyAQfeature=player_embedded http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/24/movie-trailer-gareth-edwards-monsters/ The breakout hit of this years SXSW, Gareth Edwards' groundbreaking new film is as much a poignant contemporary romance as it is an epic science fiction adventure. Shot with just a five person crew and a cast of two, Gareth Edwards' team traveled through Guatemala, Belize and Mexico, finding and utilizing their locations and supporting actors as they went. The result is a film as cutting edge as it is classically composed, as emotionally satisfying as it is visually stunning, and the bold announcement of a major new talent. Six years ago NASA discovered the possibility of alien life within our solar system. A probe was launched to collect samples, but crashed upon re-entry over Central America. Soon after, new life forms began to appear and grow. In an effort to stem the destruction that resulted, half of Mexico was quarantined as an INFECTED ZONE. Today, the American and Mexican military still struggle to contain the massive creatures… Our story begins when a jaded US journalist (McNairy) begrudgingly agrees to find his bosses daughter, a shaken American tourist (Able) and escort her through the infected zone to the safety of the US border. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse
This says something... what, I have yet to determine. [?] === Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse JR Raphael, PC World http://www.pcworld.com/ Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm [image: Microsoft Tagline - Windows]Grab your churroshttp://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007740.htmland get ready to party like it's Windows 7 launch day http://www.esarcasm.com/5502/windows-7-launch/: Microsoft is taking on a new identity. The Windows wizards announced a new corporate tagline during a meeting with employees this week, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed. So, are you ready for the million-dollar phrase? Be what's next. Yep -- that's it. I'm assuming they aren't talking about the Microsoft Kinhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/200323/microsoft_kin_a_not_so_fond_farewell.html . More at: http://www.pcworld.com/article/201708/microsofts_new_slogan_hey_it_could_be_worse.html?tk=nl_wbx_h_crawl1 -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 363.gif
[scifinoir2] Monday's Warriors [10 Attachments]
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[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
There was an interesting change made in this movie - aside from changing the name from Edwin to Evelyn - Edwin was supposed to have a child and Jolie nixed this idea because, she said, a woman in this profession could not have a child and effectively do her job. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Monday's Warriors
Thet-thar good ole boy Rebel, Mr Worf, he gon be real pop'lar down chere way. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: [Attachment(s) #12a106e9f9265504_TopText from Mr. Worf included below] -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Endhiran - The Robot
I've been trying out 4.p0 Beta 1. Well, I was until a half-hour ago. Now, I'm back to 3.6.8, and I'll test YouTube tomorrow. (Supper needs fixing, as soon as I clear the table.) So far, no problems. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm I haven't had any problems since the update. I spent a couple of hours yesterday looking at youtube. Which was fatal before this. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Got those updates, for all that they were worth. I'll just stick it out, and hope that Firefox stops trying to build a developer-friendly set-up and just gets the basics down pat. Reminds me of what Gmail is also doing, pretty much the same thing. All the great functions you want on an airliner, but the demned thing keeps crashing. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Firefox did another update on Saturday to address the problems with the new version of Flash. I think that all of this mess was a strategic plan by M$ to ruin Firefox. Every time there is a new m$ update something breaks in Firefox. The video itself has only a couple of stills from the movie. There is no real trailer for it yet. One of the pictures that they had released was the main star wearing a silver helmet and silver makeup sniffing a red flower, but that wasn't an official look of the robot. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, Adobe crashed again, thanks to Firefox. Can't watch this now. Still, I'm interested, even without the robot. Aishwarya's eyes... score. [?] On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: This movie is being billed as the most expensive Indian made movie. What is it you ask? It is a scifi / musical about a robot. In keeping with India's long tradition of musical numbers appearing in inappropriate places, this fits right in doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Ps4eTQJrk -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 327.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
I'm not sure what to say about that. I've seen a few things lately that remind me of how important it is for children to be raised by people who want them around. But I assume some people could be good at the job with a child at home. I guess I would chalk that up to at least the way she's feeling right now about raising children, and maybe the way she would advise others. That just reminded me of a huge argument I had with a guy I was dating when we were watching some older Apollo 13 movie (not the famous Tom Hanks one). I was certain that no one who wants to have a dangerous job should have children. But I was 19 then and things were simple. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: There was an interesting change made in this movie - aside from changing the name from Edwin to Evelyn - Edwin was supposed to have a child and Jolie nixed this idea because, she said, a woman in this profession could not have a child and effectively do her job. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that part of the festivities. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: Although Salt did not dislodge Inception from the top of the box office, it did take in $36 mil at the weekend box office. Part of its success is that it adhered to the formula for a successful kick-ass female action movie: Salt opens with Angelina Jolie stripped to her skivvies, bloodied and beaten, under the extremes of torture - the usual fetishistic fantasy. ~(no)rave! -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse
Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing is "I am a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea", nothing surprises me about their marketing campaign!- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: "SciFiNoir2" scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:04:01 PMSubject: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse This says something... what, I have yet to determine. === Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse JR Raphael, PC World Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm Grab your churros and get ready to party like it's Windows 7 launch day: Microsoft is taking on a new identity. The Windows wizards announced a new corporate tagline during a meeting with employees this week, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed. So, are you ready for the million-dollar phrase? "Be what's next." Yep -- that's it. I'm assuming they aren't talking about the Microsoft Kin. More at: http://www.pcworld.com/article/201708/microsofts_new_slogan_hey_it_could_be_worse.html?tk=nl_wbx_h_crawl1 -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Granthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
Right. Given what she was doing, I can see her point of view, and that would apply to a man as well as a woman. The only thing that would make it work is if one parent is around to be home all the time, so maybe her husband could have fulfilled that duty. But I think women in the main deal with more feelings of guilt about having demanding careers than men (either because they feel that way themselves, or society jumps them and makes them feel that way), and that's what Jolie seemed to be reflecting. Even if Salt's husband could be a good parent, she felt that Salt herself not being able to be around constantly wouldn't be fair to the kids. - Original Message - From: Tracy Curtis tlcurti...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:32:06 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I'm not sure what to say about that. I've seen a few things lately that remind me of how important it is for children to be raised by people who want them around. But I assume some people could be good at the job with a child at home. I guess I would chalk that up to at least the way she's feeling right now about raising children, and maybe the way she would advise others. That just reminded me of a huge argument I had with a guy I was dating when we were watching some older Apollo 13 movie (not the famous Tom Hanks one). I was certain that no one who wants to have a dangerous job should have children. But I was 19 then and things were simple. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: There was an interesting change made in this movie - aside from changing the name from Edwin to Evelyn - Edwin was supposed to have a child and Jolie nixed this idea because, she said, a woman in this profession could not have a child and effectively do her job. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye
Re: [scifinoir2] China discovers XXL Way of Life
It's the FOOD. Same deal's happening in Japan since they've adopted Western fast food joints; now there's an obesity problem and I seem to recall deodorant sales on the rise, too. The more meat you eat the more it reflects in your body odor. Affects your hormones, too--which is another major reason for needing it. Trying to tell people I only use it once a month due to my diet is typically met with raised eyebrows and lulz. It's become so much a part of the norm that people assume everyone HAS to have it or they'll reek without it. Not necessarily the case ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Its the desk jobs. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: After struggling for millennia to feed its population, China, the world's fastest-growing major economy, now faces the opposite problem. Some 30 percent of adults are overweight or obese. http://www.bwchinese.com/article/developments_global/2010-06/2515.html Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Web Urbanist: Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Home
Funny thing is that I should've known about the vast emptiness, having driven through North Dakota to visit a friend of mine in Minnesota. And no, I hadn't heard of that tale. Feel free to relate it, at your leisure. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Yea they were pretty cheap at the time they came on the market, but yea you would be pretty far out away from everyone and everything. Although they did have silos tucked away in a lot of places. Not many people are aware of the nukes that were hidden in marin county. Did I mention the story about the millionaire that tried to take over marin to create his own country? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I seriously looked into buying one once, when chance brought me to the listing for it. The only reason I didn't bite was because it was in North Dakota. [?][?] On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Web Urbanist http://weburbanist.com http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgsfeedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/WebUrbanist -- Nuclear Family Housing: Life In A Missile Silo Homehttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/WebUrbanist/%7E3/g8lG9IvclIk/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 25 Jul 2010 10:00 AM PDT [ By Steve http://weburbanist.com/steve in Abandoned Placeshttp://weburbanist.com/category/abandonments/, Architecture Design http://weburbanist.com/category/architecture/, History Factoids http://weburbanist.com/category/history/. ] Formerly spark plugs of the cold war, dozens of decades-old, decommissioned underground nuclear missile silos are slowly slipping into disrepair and decayhttp://weburbanist.com/2008/07/27/abandoned-buildings-property-and-other-places/2/. Not all of these relics are destined for the ash heap of history, however, a precious few are taking on new life as post-apocalyptic family homes – without the apocalypse. The best thing about living in a refurbished missile silo? Telling your kids, *“You can’t fight in here, this is the war room!”* Home, Home On The Firing Range (images via: UP-HAA http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/tag/home-silo/, Arms Control Wonkhttp://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/863/20th-century-castlesand Pyjamas Mediahttp://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/07/23/going-underground/ ) Why would anyone want to live in an old missile silohttp://gearcrave.com/2008-03-23/how-to-buy-your-own-missile-silo/? Let’s look at the positives, starting with the best construction work government money can buy. Then there’s the feeling of security that comes with living in a structure built to withstand tornadoes, hailstorms, wildfires and the odd Soviet pre-emptive nuclear strike. Home handyman types will find little to do besides changing light bulbs. A Real Fixer-Upper? (images via: Think Or Thwimhttp://thinkorthwim.com/2007/10/08/for-sale-by-owner-titan-missile-silo/and Artificial Owlhttp://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.html ) There are negatives, of course, that go beyond the lack of skylights, picture windows and kidney-shaped swimming pools. Though they were built to last, missile siloshttp://dornob.com/ultimate-underground-home-converted-nuclear-missile-silo/and their associated infrastructure did require maintenance of the preventive variety. The oddly beautiful installation above is the Stanley R. Mickelsen Safeguard complexhttp://www.artificialowl.net/2008/10/abandoned-us-anti-ballistic-missile.htmlin Nekoma, North Dakota: the only operational anti-ballistic missile (ABM) base ever completed and dating from the late 1960s. ABMs were designed to protect ICBM sites from attack by enemy missiles, in other words protecting our protectors. (images via: English Russiahttp://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008/12/26/abandoned-missile-launch-site/, Getty Imageshttp://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/83401677/Photonica?language=en-USlocation=CANand Telstar Logisticshttp://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.html ) A missile basehttp://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/11/a-nike-missile-base-where-the-cold-war-never-ended.htmlthat was completely neglected for years may have a number of daunting issues any new owner must deal with before moving in such as flooding, mold and structural settling. Got a sticky set of blast doors? That’ll require more than just a few shots of WD40. Blasts From The Past (images via: Gypsy Journal http://www.gypsyjournal.net/titan.htm and Wikimediahttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Minuteman_II_in_silo_1980.jpg ) Most nuclear missile sites comprise much more than the actual missile silo. Underground control complexes attached to the silo by tunnels provided personnel with long-term living facilities
[scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
What brought this home for me was years ago when I created a female heroine. Being a man, I wrote her like I would write a male lead character. My beta readers told me she was unlikeable. I didn't change a thing about her characterization but I inserted a rape scene. Almost to a person, male and female, told me they found my character more likable. Go figure. ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote: Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past, which unfortunately gives me Clue +2... It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario? Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to do if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But it's a reflection of our culture. One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture being influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done. If it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I have VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under such conditions. There ya go, my $0.02 worth. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of this film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense. I can see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt based on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case they may even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man they'd have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail. This may be the exception that proves the rule. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The difference is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually the Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the beginning. One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at the box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable exception. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't he also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply tell a good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience? Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so any intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman bound was a thing that turned me on (and it's not). - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a kick-ass avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus is usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed, kidnapped and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who must be (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: It's not bad. They don't show any real abuse, just the image of her after having been abused. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:39:47 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Salt in your eye Ah... remind me to be getting popcorn during that
Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse
The first campaign should have been I use a PC and don't know any better... The new one should be Its Windows 7, still better than Windows ME... On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing is I am a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea, nothing surprises me about their marketing campaign! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:04:01 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse This says something... what, I have yet to determine. === Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse JR Raphael, PC World http://www.pcworld.com/ Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm [image: Microsoft Tagline - Windows]Grab your churroshttp://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007740.htmland get ready to party like it's Windows 7 launch day http://www.esarcasm.com/5502/windows-7-launch/: Microsoft is taking on a new identity. The Windows wizards announced a new corporate tagline during a meeting with employees this week, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed. So, are you ready for the million-dollar phrase? Be what's next. Yep -- that's it. I'm assuming they aren't talking about the Microsoft Kinhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/200323/microsoft_kin_a_not_so_fond_farewell.html . More at: http://www.pcworld.com/article/201708/microsofts_new_slogan_hey_it_could_be_worse.html?tk=nl_wbx_h_crawl1 -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Terra-Gen Power secures $1.2 billion for largest wind farm in U.S.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you
There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers everyone's wages. I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I stand by my China statement. By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the decision to repopulate the world with billionaires. If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire). This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to do the work on the other side. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote: You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of iPhone in this piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not ATT customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas. Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one form of exploitation is better than another. Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States, you lower your standard of living. On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote: Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit. Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8 to 10 to a dorm room? What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300? Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here. We purchase our future subjugation. Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8 hours is courtesy of Walmart. Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of living. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One covered Malaysia and how so many companies have left their for China because China was even cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the billions that was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The reporter's name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now. There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a search on China pulled up 403 pages of videos! You can also check it out on their website at: http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/ One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff that doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get covered by them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they attacked the US boat. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@wrote: Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was on? I'll keep an eye out for it. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@wrote: Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on Current tv? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@wrote: Why does this NOT surprise me? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant- china-deaths-suicides Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today at an industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of the world's mobile phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were bolted into the walls below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually cover 1.5m square metres. To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the Taiwanese electronics company Foxconn â which works with Apple, Dell and Sony â has also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered counselling to its 420,000 employees here. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10
