[scifinoir2] Captain Jack As a Digital Weapon: Launching ‘Torchwood’ Comic #1

[brent wodehouse]

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/128580-captain-jack-as-a-digital-weapon-launching-torchwood-comic-1/

Captain Jack As a Digital Weapon: Launching ‘Torchwood’ Comic #1

By [ http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/697 ]Lynnette Porter
 

2 August 2010


During his travels with the Doctor through space and time, not to mention
his long tenure with Torchwood Three, Captain Jack Harkness has had to be
many things to many people (and aliens).  This summer he tackles one of
his most crucial roles yet - as Torchwood’s digital weapon. His mission:
Keep fans of the original TV series happy while attracting a new audience
of comic book readers - and then keep them hooked until new radio dramas
and TV episodes arrive next year. Sound daunting? Not for the Doctor Who
and Torchwood veteran who has successfully defeated long hiatuses before.

The launch of Torchwood comic #1 (10 August in stores after a Comic-Con
debut) seems to be the next step in what TV series creator Russell T.
Davies once termed the digital weaponry of Torchwood.  During interviews
with Entertainment Weekly in July 2009, Davies noted that Torchwood could
become anything it needed to be, and indeed the series has been malleable
in the past. The comic’s timely entry into the marketplace reminds
future-thinking fans that the TV series will return, albeit in a new
location and from American cable network Starz, by this time next summer. 

The comic, however, also woos fans of the original Cardiff-based TV show
by providing the familiar context of the series’ first three seasons. As
such, Torchwood the Comic is an interesting way to expand the franchise by
attracting new readers who might not have seen Torchwood prior to all its
media attention for critically acclaimed but fandom-divisive episode,
“Children of Earth”. The comic also can placate long-time fans
dissatisfied with the ending of the miniseries and anxious about the next
season’s direction. Because the comic book straddles the line between the
familiar and the unexplored, the sale of this first issue is particularly
important to the comic’s and the series’ future.

Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. This old
rhyme is strangely appropriate for the happy marriage of the TV series’
characters with the comic book format.  In the premiere issue, one story
is “something old”, a tale published a year earlier in Torchwood magazine.
The “something new” is TV script editor Gary Russell’s adventure,
“Broken”.  One character, Ianto Jones, has been “borrowed” from earlier in
the series’ canon to join his compatriots in “Broken” as they battle a
villain from the TV show. 

Of course, the most famous “something blue” (other than Captain Jack’s
eyes) is his trademark grey-blue RAF coat. All the familiar, comfortable
elements long-time TV fans have come to expect are present and accounted
for, sir - but are they enough to keep the franchise going until new
episodes arrive next year? More importantly, can the new Torchwood comic
book generate its own audience separate from the TV series? Is Torchwood
the true “digital weapon” that can successfully market its stories in any
medium - not just TV episodes, but also novels, radio plays, and now a
comic book? 

Cover Story

The two collectible covers clearly indicate where the comic series is
headed. (Two additional black-and-white art covers are Comic-Con
exclusives.) Front and center on every cover is Captain Jack Harkness. The
photo cover presents him as fans’ strongest TV memory - sexy, action hero
Jack in the moment before all hell breaks loose, gun raised as he looks
toward an off-camera source of danger. He wears his trademark RAF coat -
about as quintessential a Torchwood photo of its lead hero as possible.

The illustrated cover also portrays Jack, with coat, front and center as
he strides toward danger, framed against an ominously violent red-orange
sky. Jack’s coat billows behind him, effectively creating a visual lead-in
to the two characters in the background. Fans of the TV series easily
recognize Ianto Jones, sans jacket but nevertheless in a suit (and red
tie, a detail hardcore fans will be sure to notice), this time with his
sleeves rolled up to get to work. Gwen Cooper wears her traditional red
blouse and leather jacket, but her curves have been accentuated in true
comic-book style. The covers play up the familiar aspects of characters at
the beginning of “Children of Earth”, the Torchwood team’s previous
adventure.

Of course, since 2008 several writers and artists have told Torchwood’s
story as serialized comics in Torchwood magazine. The official magazine,
however, most likely is read by Torchwood’s TV fans, not the wider
comic-book audience who will see Torchwood> #1 on the shelves of their
favorite comic store. The magazine has included stories written by Gareth
David-Lloyd or John Barrowman and Carole E. Barrowman, whose “Selkie” is
featured in Torchwood Comic #1. 

As might be expected, the Barro

Re: [scifinoir2] CBS in talks to bring TV shows to Hulu: CEO

[Mr. Worf]

I think they need to start saving large sums of money because they will need
to develop some replacement shows to fill the gaps that are open next
season. Plus some of their longest running shows are coming to an end.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> So, now that Hulu is trying to get more money out of us, CBS is coming on
> board? Joy...
>
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> NEW YORK | Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:16pm EDT
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters) - CBS Corp, the No.1 U.S. broadcaster, is in talks to
> bring some of its TV shows to popular Web video service Hulu, CBS Chief
> Executive Les Moonves said in an interview on Monday.
>
> Moonves said talks were with Hulu Plus, a paid for subscription service
> which the online video company launched in June charging users $9.
>
> CBS, home to top shows such as 'CSI' and 'Two and a Half Men,' is the only
> major broadcaster whose shows are not available on Hulu. Hulu is one of the
> fastest growing TV sites since its launch in 2007 with around 43.5 million
> viewers in May, according to data from analytics firm comScore.
>
> Moonves said CBS shied away from Hulu in the early stages to ensure
> flexibility, but the introduction of a subscription business has encouraged
> CBS to explore its options with Hulu.
>
> "Are we having discussions with the Hulu subscription service? Yes we are,"
> Moonves said.
>
> "Our goal is to get paid for our content in as many different ways as we
> can without hurting the mother ship. The key here is flexibility."
>
> CBS said on Monday it signed a 10-year programing deal with Comcast Corp,
> which includes range of on-demand and Web video features.
>
> Executives at CBS have long argued that a key issue with Hulu was one of
> control and exclusivity. CBS has also wanted to have more control over how
> its shows are distributed and shunned the idea of featuring its programs
> exclusively on Hulu, preferring a wide range of partners across the Web.
>
> Hulu is jointly owned by the other networks General Electric Co's NBC, Walt
> Disney Co's ABC and News Corp's Fox Networks. The vast majority of the
> programing on the site has been available for free, usually a short time
> after first being broadcast for free on air.
>
> But as Hulu aims to expand its TV offering, it has developed a paid-for
> service to encourage other partners such as cable networks owners such as
> Viacom Inc and Time Warner Inc. Cable networks typically rely on a dual
> business model of affiliate fees from TV distributors and advertising
> revenue.
>
> Hulu Plus is hoping to lure consumers to pay a monthly fee for the
> convenience of watching shows whenever they want. It said in June it is
> making its service available on Apple Inc's 
> iPadand iPhone, Sony Corp's PlayStation 
> 3 and Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
> television sets.
>
> (Reporting by Jennifer Saba; writing by Yinka 
> Adegoke;
> editing by Andre 
> Grenon
> )
>
>
> --
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Re: [scifinoir2] CBS in talks to bring TV shows to Hulu: CEO

[Keith Johnson]

So, now that Hulu is trying to get more money out of us, CBS is coming on 
board? Joy... 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2010 6:37:15 PM 
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By Jennifer Saba 

NEW YORK | Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:16pm EDT 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - CBS Corp, the No.1 U.S. broadcaster, is in talks to bring 
some of its TV shows to popular Web video service Hulu, CBS Chief Executive Les 
Moonves said in an interview on Monday. 

Moonves said talks were with Hulu Plus, a paid for subscription service which 
the online video company launched in June charging users $9. 

CBS, home to top shows such as 'CSI' and 'Two and a Half Men,' is the only 
major broadcaster whose shows are not available on Hulu. Hulu is one of the 
fastest growing TV sites since its launch in 2007 with around 43.5 million 
viewers in May, according to data from analytics firm comScore. 

Moonves said CBS shied away from Hulu in the early stages to ensure 
flexibility, but the introduction of a subscription business has encouraged CBS 
to explore its options with Hulu. 

"Are we having discussions with the Hulu subscription service? Yes we are," 
Moonves said. 

"Our goal is to get paid for our content in as many different ways as we can 
without hurting the mother ship. The key here is flexibility." 

CBS said on Monday it signed a 10-year programing deal with Comcast Corp, which 
includes range of on-demand and Web video features. 

Executives at CBS have long argued that a key issue with Hulu was one of 
control and exclusivity. CBS has also wanted to have more control over how its 
shows are distributed and shunned the idea of featuring its programs 
exclusively on Hulu, preferring a wide range of partners across the Web. 

Hulu is jointly owned by the other networks General Electric Co's NBC, Walt 
Disney Co's ABC and News Corp's Fox Networks. The vast majority of the 
programing on the site has been available for free, usually a short time after 
first being broadcast for free on air. 

But as Hulu aims to expand its TV offering, it has developed a paid-for service 
to encourage other partners such as cable networks owners such as Viacom Inc 
and Time Warner Inc. Cable networks typically rely on a dual business model of 
affiliate fees from TV distributors and advertising revenue. 

Hulu Plus is hoping to lure consumers to pay a monthly fee for the convenience 
of watching shows whenever they want. It said in June it is making its service 
available on Apple Inc's iPad and iPhone, Sony Corp's PlayStation 3 and Samsung 
Electronics Co Ltd television sets. 

(Reporting by Jennifer Saba; writing by Yinka Adegoke ; editing by Andre Grenon 
) 

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[scifinoir2] HUMAN FLYING JET MACHINE

[Mr. Worf]

Not a jetpack but very close.








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[scifinoir2] The SeaKettle life raft will make drinking water from the sea

[Mr. Worf]

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[scifinoir2] CBS in talks to bring TV shows to Hulu: CEO

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By Jennifer Saba

NEW YORK | Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:16pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - CBS Corp, the No.1 U.S. broadcaster, is in talks to
bring some of its TV shows to popular Web video service Hulu, CBS Chief
Executive Les Moonves said in an interview on Monday.

Moonves said talks were with Hulu Plus, a paid for subscription service
which the online video company launched in June charging users $9.

CBS, home to top shows such as 'CSI' and 'Two and a Half Men,' is the only
major broadcaster whose shows are not available on Hulu. Hulu is one of the
fastest growing TV sites since its launch in 2007 with around 43.5 million
viewers in May, according to data from analytics firm comScore.

Moonves said CBS shied away from Hulu in the early stages to ensure
flexibility, but the introduction of a subscription business has encouraged
CBS to explore its options with Hulu.

"Are we having discussions with the Hulu subscription service? Yes we are,"
Moonves said.

"Our goal is to get paid for our content in as many different ways as we can
without hurting the mother ship. The key here is flexibility."

CBS said on Monday it signed a 10-year programing deal with Comcast Corp,
which includes range of on-demand and Web video features.

Executives at CBS have long argued that a key issue with Hulu was one of
control and exclusivity. CBS has also wanted to have more control over how
its shows are distributed and shunned the idea of featuring its programs
exclusively on Hulu, preferring a wide range of partners across the Web.

Hulu is jointly owned by the other networks General Electric Co's NBC, Walt
Disney Co's ABC and News Corp's Fox Networks. The vast majority of the
programing on the site has been available for free, usually a short time
after first being broadcast for free on air.

But as Hulu aims to expand its TV offering, it has developed a paid-for
service to encourage other partners such as cable networks owners such as
Viacom Inc and Time Warner Inc. Cable networks typically rely on a dual
business model of affiliate fees from TV distributors and advertising
revenue.

Hulu Plus is hoping to lure consumers to pay a monthly fee for the
convenience of watching shows whenever they want. It said in June it is
making its service available on Apple Inc's
iPadand iPhone, Sony Corp's
PlayStation 3 and Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
television sets.

(Reporting by Jennifer Saba; writing by Yinka
Adegoke;
editing by Andre
Grenon
)


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[Martin Baxter]

[?][?][?][?]

Preachify, Brother rave!

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Every time I read one of these internet "greatest" lists Sly and the Family
> Stone's "Babies making babies" always plays in my head.
>
> These kids don't know nuthin' about anything that happened before either
> they or the internet was born.
>
> The Junkyard Dog is listed after Koko B Ware? And, regarding Ware, most of
> the wrestlers listed were more rodeo clowns than wrestlers: Mr. T? I am
> surprised Zeus (Tiny Lister) is not on this list.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr.
> Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
> > By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30,
> 2010
> > 10:23 am
> >
> > [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
> >
> > As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
> > Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn’t WWF, it was WCW. If it was
> neither
> > of those, I’d have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my
> parents
> > wouldn’t hear me up so late.
>
> >
> > In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
> them
> > were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the only
> > ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers always
> > seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
> stereotypical
> > light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the leader of a
> > Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala being
> > portrayed as a man who couldn’t speak and was made to seem as if all
>
> > Africans were like him.
> >
> > All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky
> Maivia
> > and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But
> things
> > changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
> > African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He
> had
> > charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular.
> Many
> > will claim that he isn’t Black or that being light skin helped him out
> (the
> > latter I won’t deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for
> other
>
> > Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
> > federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
> > brands was huge
> >
> > In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
> my
> > opinion and in no particular order) the “Top 10 Greatest Black
> Wrestlers Of
> > All-Time.â€
> >
> > Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
> > forgotten.
> >
> > [image: Booker_T_511772a]
> >
> > *#1 Booker T*
> >
> > I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990’s. He
> has
>
> > come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
> > remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
> > Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
> >
> > *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the
> > N-Word
> >
> > [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
> >
> > *#2 Koko B Ware*
> >
> > If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of
> it’s
>
> > Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
> > parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to
> make
> > us look bad.
> >
> > All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
> >
> > Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of Koko<
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3-wCf297A>
> >
> > [image: Junkyard Dog]
> >
> > *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
> >
> > I wasn’t old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of
> him
>
> > body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the
> toughest
> > and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal
> chain
> > around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
> >
> > May he rest in peace.*
> > *
> >
> > Clip: Tribute to Junkyard
> > Dog
> >
> > [image: Picture 1]
> >
> > *#4 Ice Train*
> >
> > If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as
> hard
> > as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
> >
> > Clip: Giant vs Ice
> > Train
> >
> > [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
> >
> > *#5 **The Rock*
> >
> > “Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?â€
> >
> > That was The Rock’s catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
> match.
>
> > The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest
> ever
> > in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People’s Elbow?
>
> >
> > Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian
> > Garcia
> >
> > [image: godfather]
> >
> > *#6 **Godfather*
> >
> > Three words: “Pimpin Aint Easy!â€
> >
> > Clip: Godfather vs Golddust 

[scifinoir2] Re: Comic book buff selling rare copy of Batman No. 1

[Kelwyn]

I love everything about this story: found at the bottom of a drawer; sold in 
1974 for $300; Alaskan climate preserves 70 year-old comic magazine in near 
pristine condition.  That is the trifecta of the comic book holy grail.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "brent wodehouse"  
wrote:
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2012509132_apuscomicbookauction.html?prmid=head_main
> 
> Comic book buff selling rare copy of Batman No. 1 
> 
> 
> A longtime Alaska comic book buff is selling one of the gems in his vast
> collection, a rare copy of Batman No. 1 published 70 years ago.
> 
> The Associated Press
> 
> 
> FAIRBANKS, Alaska - A longtime Alaska comic book buff is selling one of
> the gems in his vast collection, a rare copy of Batman No. 1 published 70
> years ago.
> 
> Mike Wheat of Fairbanks has put the 1940 comic book on the auction block
> through Dallas-based Heritage Auction Galleries, where it's expected to
> fetch more than $40,000. Online bids already have climbed to $35,000 for
> the book, believed to be one of fewer than 300 still in existence.
> 
> Online bids will compete with a live auction set for Thursday.
> 
> The second and fourth Batman issues also will be part of Thursday's
> auction. They are expected to bring more than $5,000 combined.
> 
> Wheat, a retired city wastewater treatment plant operator, said he
> considers the Batman comics an investment. He said it feels like the right
> time to sell.
> 
> "I just decided it's time for someone else to have it," he said.
> 
> The Batman No. 1 comic book was discovered after local businessman Ron
> Jaeger bought an old dresser at a garage sale in the early 1970s, then
> kept it in storage for a few years. When Jaeger finally brought it out, he
> noticed one of the drawers didn't slide easily.
> 
> Three comic books and a few old issues of the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner
> were tucked beneath the drawer and a quarter-inch piece of plywood. The
> haul included a copy of Batman No. 1, Superman No. 17 and an old issue of
> a Red Ryder Western comic.
> 
> Wheat already had a reputation as an avid comic collector in 1974, and
> Jaeger sold him the comic books for $300.
> 
> The auction house has handled many copies of Batman No. 1, but Wheat's
> copy is notable because the low humidity and cool temperatures in
> Fairbanks have kept the paper in excellent condition, said Barry Sandoval,
> director of comic auctions and operations at Heritage. Old comics were
> printed on cheap newsprint, but the pages in Wheat's copy remain white and
> crisp.
> 
> "If we got a Batman No. 1 from Texas or Louisiana, if you opened it up
> after 70 years the pages would start to crumble," Sandoval said.
> 
> The condition of comics is graded on a scale of one to 10. Wheat's copy
> has been graded a 5.5. That's a middling score for a newer comic, but
> impressive for a vintage copy.
> 
> "I see how most comics from that era look," Sandoval said. "Most
> 70-year-old comics are in pretty rough shape."
> 
> Batman No. 1 was the first solo spin-off for the character, who made his
> first appearance in 1939 as a character in Detective Comics No. 27. The
> debut includes the original appearances by two of Batman's key foes, the
> Joker and Catwoman.
> 
> ---
> 
> Online:
> 
> http://www.ha.com
> 
> ---
> 
> Information from: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, http://www.newsminer.com
>

[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[Kelwyn]

Every time I read one of these internet "greatest" lists Sly and the Family 
Stone's "Babies making babies" always plays in my head.  

These kids don't know nuthin' about anything that happened before either they 
or the internet was born.

The Junkyard Dog is listed after Koko B Ware?  And, regarding Ware, most of the 
wrestlers listed were more rodeo clowns than wrestlers: Mr. T?  I am surprised 
Zeus (Tiny Lister) is not on this list.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
> By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30, 2010
> 10:23 am
> 
> [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
> 
> As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
> Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn’t WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
> of those, I’d have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
> wouldn’t hear me up so late.
> 
> In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of them
> were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the only
> ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers always
> seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very stereotypical
> light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the leader of a
> Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala being
> portrayed as a man who couldn’t speak and was made to seem as if all
> Africans were like him.
> 
> All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
> and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
> changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
> African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
> charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
> will claim that he isn’t Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
> latter I won’t deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
> Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
> federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
> brands was huge
> 
> In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in my
> opinion and in no particular order) the “Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of
> All-Time.”
> 
> Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
> forgotten.
> 
> [image: Booker_T_511772a]
> 
> *#1 Booker T*
> 
> I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990’s. He has
> come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
> remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
> Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
> 
> *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the
> N-Word
> 
> [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
> 
> *#2 Koko B Ware*
> 
> If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it’s
> Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
> parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
> us look bad.
> 
> All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
> 
> Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
> Koko
> 
> [image: Junkyard Dog]
> 
> *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
> 
> I wasn’t old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
> body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
> and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
> around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
> 
> May he rest in peace.*
> *
> 
> Clip: Tribute to Junkyard
> Dog
> 
> [image: Picture 1]
> 
> *#4 Ice Train*
> 
> If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
> as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
> 
> Clip: Giant vs Ice
> Train
> 
> [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
> 
> *#5 **The Rock*
> 
> “Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?”
> 
> That was The Rock’s catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a match.
> The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest ever
> in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People’s Elbow?
> 
> Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian
> Garcia
> 
> [image: godfather]
> 
> *#6 **Godfather*
> 
> Three words: “Pimpin Aint Easy!”
> 
> Clip: Godfather vs Golddust 
> 
> [image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*
> 
> The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
> damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Domination and also played plenty
> of different characters.
> 
> Clip: Faarooq disbands Nation of
> Domination

[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[B Smith]

And I should kick myself for forgetting Abdullah the Butcher, Sweet Daddy Siki, 
Bad News Brown/Allen, Iceman King Parsons and other legends.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith"  wrote:
>
> This list sucks. Where are Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd, Bobo Brazil, Sailor Art 
> Thomas, Rocky Johnson, Bearcat Wright, Ray Candy, Sonny King, Hacksaw Butch 
> Reed and Tony Atlas?
> 
> Ice Train? Hell New Jack deserves a spot on the list before he would.
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > Mr Worf, they left off the first Black wrestler I can remember, Tony Atlas.
> > And no... the People's Elbow cannot be topped. [?][?][?][?]
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
> > > By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30, 2010
> > > 10:23 am
> > >
> > > [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
> > >
> > > As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
> > > Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn't WWF, it was WCW. If it was 
> > > neither
> > > of those, I'd have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
> > > wouldn't hear me up so late.
> > >
> > > In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
> > > them were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the
> > > only ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers
> > > always seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
> > > stereotypical light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being 
> > > the
> > > leader of a Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala
> > > being portrayed as a man who couldn't speak and was made to seem as if all
> > > Africans were like him.
> > >
> > > All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky 
> > > Maivia
> > > and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But 
> > > things
> > > changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
> > > African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He 
> > > had
> > > charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
> > > will claim that he isn't Black or that being light skin helped him out 
> > > (the
> > > latter I won't deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for 
> > > other
> > > Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
> > > federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
> > > brands was huge
> > >
> > > In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
> > > my opinion and in no particular order) the "Top 10 Greatest Black 
> > > Wrestlers
> > > Of All-Time."
> > >
> > > Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
> > > forgotten.
> > >
> > > [image: Booker_T_511772a]
> > >
> > > *#1 Booker T*
> > >
> > > I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990's. He has
> > > come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
> > > remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
> > > Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
> > >
> > > *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the 
> > > N-Word
> > >
> > > [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
> > >
> > > *#2 Koko B Ware*
> > >
> > > If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it's
> > > Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
> > > parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
> > > us look bad.
> > >
> > > All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
> > >
> > > Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
> > > Koko
> > >
> > > [image: Junkyard Dog]
> > >
> > > *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
> > >
> > > I wasn't old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of 
> > > him
> > > body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the 
> > > toughest
> > > and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal 
> > > chain
> > > around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
> > >
> > > May he rest in peace.*
> > > *
> > >
> > > Clip: Tribute to Junkyard 
> > > Dog
> > >
> > > [image: Picture 1]
> > >
> > > *#4 Ice Train*
> > >
> > > If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
> > > as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
> > >
> > > Clip: Giant vs Ice 
> > > Train
> > >
> > > [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
> > >
> > > *#5 **The Rock*
> > >
> > > "Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?"
> > >
> > > That was The Rock's catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
> > > match. The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the 
> > > funniest
> > > ever in 

[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[B Smith]

This list sucks. Where are Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd, Bobo Brazil, Sailor Art 
Thomas, Rocky Johnson, Bearcat Wright, Ray Candy, Sonny King, Hacksaw Butch 
Reed and Tony Atlas?

Ice Train? Hell New Jack deserves a spot on the list before he would.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> Mr Worf, they left off the first Black wrestler I can remember, Tony Atlas.
> And no... the People's Elbow cannot be topped. [?][?][?][?]
> 
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
> > By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30, 2010
> > 10:23 am
> >
> > [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
> >
> > As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
> > Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn't WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
> > of those, I'd have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
> > wouldn't hear me up so late.
> >
> > In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
> > them were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the
> > only ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers
> > always seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
> > stereotypical light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the
> > leader of a Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala
> > being portrayed as a man who couldn't speak and was made to seem as if all
> > Africans were like him.
> >
> > All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
> > and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
> > changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
> > African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
> > charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
> > will claim that he isn't Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
> > latter I won't deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
> > Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
> > federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
> > brands was huge
> >
> > In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
> > my opinion and in no particular order) the "Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers
> > Of All-Time."
> >
> > Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
> > forgotten.
> >
> > [image: Booker_T_511772a]
> >
> > *#1 Booker T*
> >
> > I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990's. He has
> > come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
> > remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
> > Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
> >
> > *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the 
> > N-Word
> >
> > [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
> >
> > *#2 Koko B Ware*
> >
> > If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it's
> > Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
> > parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
> > us look bad.
> >
> > All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
> >
> > Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
> > Koko
> >
> > [image: Junkyard Dog]
> >
> > *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
> >
> > I wasn't old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
> > body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
> > and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
> > around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
> >
> > May he rest in peace.*
> > *
> >
> > Clip: Tribute to Junkyard 
> > Dog
> >
> > [image: Picture 1]
> >
> > *#4 Ice Train*
> >
> > If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
> > as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
> >
> > Clip: Giant vs Ice 
> > Train
> >
> > [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
> >
> > *#5 **The Rock*
> >
> > "Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?"
> >
> > That was The Rock's catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
> > match. The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest
> > ever in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People's Elbow?
> >
> > Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian 
> > Garcia
> >
> > [image: godfather]
> >
> > *#6 **Godfather*
> >
> > Three words: "Pimpin Aint Easy!"
> >
> > Clip: Godfather vs Golddust 
> >
> > [image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*
> >
> > The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
> > damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Dominati

Re: [scifinoir2] Comic book buff selling rare copy of Batman No. 1

[Martin Baxter]

Brent, I hope he gets his asking price.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:06 AM, brent wodehouse <
brent_wodeho...@thefence.us> wrote:

>
>
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2012509132_apuscomicbookauction.html?prmid=head_main
>
> Comic book buff selling rare copy of Batman No. 1
>
> A longtime Alaska comic book buff is selling one of the gems in his vast
> collection, a rare copy of Batman No. 1 published 70 years ago.
>
> The Associated Press
>
> FAIRBANKS, Alaska - A longtime Alaska comic book buff is selling one of
> the gems in his vast collection, a rare copy of Batman No. 1 published 70
> years ago.
>
> Mike Wheat of Fairbanks has put the 1940 comic book on the auction block
> through Dallas-based Heritage Auction Galleries, where it's expected to
> fetch more than $40,000. Online bids already have climbed to $35,000 for
> the book, believed to be one of fewer than 300 still in existence.
>
> Online bids will compete with a live auction set for Thursday.
>
> The second and fourth Batman issues also will be part of Thursday's
> auction. They are expected to bring more than $5,000 combined.
>
> Wheat, a retired city wastewater treatment plant operator, said he
> considers the Batman comics an investment. He said it feels like the right
> time to sell.
>
> "I just decided it's time for someone else to have it," he said.
>
> The Batman No. 1 comic book was discovered after local businessman Ron
> Jaeger bought an old dresser at a garage sale in the early 1970s, then
> kept it in storage for a few years. When Jaeger finally brought it out, he
> noticed one of the drawers didn't slide easily.
>
> Three comic books and a few old issues of the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner
> were tucked beneath the drawer and a quarter-inch piece of plywood. The
> haul included a copy of Batman No. 1, Superman No. 17 and an old issue of
> a Red Ryder Western comic.
>
> Wheat already had a reputation as an avid comic collector in 1974, and
> Jaeger sold him the comic books for $300.
>
> The auction house has handled many copies of Batman No. 1, but Wheat's
> copy is notable because the low humidity and cool temperatures in
> Fairbanks have kept the paper in excellent condition, said Barry Sandoval,
> director of comic auctions and operations at Heritage. Old comics were
> printed on cheap newsprint, but the pages in Wheat's copy remain white and
> crisp.
>
> "If we got a Batman No. 1 from Texas or Louisiana, if you opened it up
> after 70 years the pages would start to crumble," Sandoval said.
>
> The condition of comics is graded on a scale of one to 10. Wheat's copy
> has been graded a 5.5. That's a middling score for a newer comic, but
> impressive for a vintage copy.
>
> "I see how most comics from that era look," Sandoval said. "Most
> 70-year-old comics are in pretty rough shape."
>
> Batman No. 1 was the first solo spin-off for the character, who made his
> first appearance in 1939 as a character in Detective Comics No. 27. The
> debut includes the original appearances by two of Batman's key foes, the
> Joker and Catwoman.
>
> ---
>
> Online:
>
> http://www.ha.com
>
> ---
>
> Information from: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, http://www.newsminer.com
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] The 20 Coolest Movie Scars

[Martin Baxter]

Him as well. When I first saw Carlyle's character in "The World Is Not
Enough", I was struck by his similarity to Pleasance's Blofeld. Both bald as
well.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>
> I think that it was Donald Pleasance from "You only live twice."
> http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-villains/donald-pleasance?id=005
>
> Or another guy but I can't remember.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> THAT'S HIM!
>>
>> Robert Carlyle's baddie in "The World Is Not Enough" (which I watched on
>> Monday, oddly enough). Thanks, Mr Worf!
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was a movie that I can't remember the title of where the badguy had
>>> a huge scar across the right side of his face and the pupil of his eye was
>>> white.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Martin Baxter 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 I get the feeling that they missed something, but I can't put my finger
 on it.


 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> The 20 Coolest Movie Scars
>
> HD screenshots of the best fake flesh wounds ever captured on film.
> By: Gene Newman
> 07/06/2010 10:11 am
>
> *Platoon, Sgt. Barnes* (Tom Berenger)
>
> "Shut up! Shut up and take the pain! Take the pain!" (Credit: Platoon
> 20th Anniversary Collector's 
> Edition
> )
>
> *The Dark Knight, Joker* (Heath Ledger)
>
> "Wanna know how I got these scars?" (Credit The Dark Knight 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Alien Resurrection, Johner* (Ron Perlman)
>
> "Earth, man. What a sh*thole." (Credit: Alien Resurrection 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Terminator 2: Judgment Day, John Connor* (Michael Edwards)
>
> The O.G. J.C. (Credit: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Skynet Edition)
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Army of Darkness, Ash* (Bruce Campbell)
>
> "Yo, she-bitch! Let's go!" (Credit: Army of Darkness 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Inglourious Basterds, Nazi Scum*
>
> Sometimes it's not the scar, but the meaning behind it. Especially when
> it's, as Lt. Aldo Raine says, "a little somethin' you can't take off."
> (Credit: Inglourious Basterds 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Die Hard With A Vengeance, Katya* (Sam Phillips)
>
> She didn't speak a word and still out-masculined Jeremy Irons by miles.
> (Credit: The Die Hard Collection 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Rambo: First Blood Part II, John Rambo* (Sylvester Stallone)
>
> "Murdock. I'm coming to get you!" (Credit: Rambo Box Set 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *300, King Leonidas* (Gerard Butler)
>
> "This is where we fight! This is where they die!" (Credit: 300: The
> Complete Experience 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Last Man Standing, Hickey* (Christopher Walken)
>
> "I don't want to die in Texas. Chicago, maybe. But not Texas."
> (Credit: Last Man Standing / The Last Boy Scout (Action Double
> Feature) 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *The Edge, Styles* (L.Q. Jones)
>
> "'Cause he's smarter than the panther." (Credit: The Edge 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Waterworld, Deacon* (Dennis Hopper)
>
> "Don't just stand there, kill something!" (Credit: Waterworld
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Slumdog Millionaire, Latika* (Freida Pinto)
>
> "I thought we would meet only in death." (Credit: Slumdog Millionaire
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Sin City, Hartigan* (Bruce Willis)
>
> "And after I pull off that miracle, maybe I'll go punch out God."
> (Credit: Sin City 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>
> *Heartbreak Ridge, Sergeant Thomas Highway* (Clint Eastwood)
>
> "My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged
> more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you
> numbnuts put together." (Credit: Heartbreak Ridge 
> [Blu-ray]
> )
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Top 10 bada$$ movie gals

[Martin Baxter]

Maybe they leave off these big names on purpose, just to stir commentary
among the readers.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> There needs to be a longer list. They forgot Pam Grier and Carrie Ann Moss
> from the Matrix.
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Addendum to this, two ladies more.
>>
>> Michelle Yeoh and Zhang Ziyi.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Martin Baxter 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While we're enjoying a layover in Bada$$ Land...
>>>
>>> http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/247328/top_10_badass_movie_gals.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[Martin Baxter]

Mr Worf, they left off the first Black wrestler I can remember, Tony Atlas.
And no... the People's Elbow cannot be topped. [?][?][?][?]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
> By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30, 2010
> 10:23 am
>
> [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
>
> As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
> Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn’t WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
> of those, I’d have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
> wouldn’t hear me up so late.
>
> In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
> them were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the
> only ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers
> always seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
> stereotypical light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the
> leader of a Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala
> being portrayed as a man who couldn’t speak and was made to seem as if all
> Africans were like him.
>
> All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
> and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
> changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
> African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
> charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
> will claim that he isn’t Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
> latter I won’t deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
> Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
> federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
> brands was huge
>
> In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
> my opinion and in no particular order) the “Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers
> Of All-Time.”
>
> Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
> forgotten.
>
> [image: Booker_T_511772a]
>
> *#1 Booker T*
>
> I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990’s. He has
> come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
> remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
> Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
>
> *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the 
> N-Word
>
> [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
>
> *#2 Koko B Ware*
>
> If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it’s
> Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
> parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
> us look bad.
>
> All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
>
> Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
> Koko
>
> [image: Junkyard Dog]
>
> *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
>
> I wasn’t old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
> body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
> and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
> around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
>
> May he rest in peace.*
> *
>
> Clip: Tribute to Junkyard 
> Dog
>
> [image: Picture 1]
>
> *#4 Ice Train*
>
> If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
> as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
>
> Clip: Giant vs Ice 
> Train
>
> [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
>
> *#5 **The Rock*
>
> “Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?”
>
> That was The Rock’s catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
> match. The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest
> ever in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People’s Elbow?
>
> Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian 
> Garcia
>
> [image: godfather]
>
> *#6 **Godfather*
>
> Three words: “Pimpin Aint Easy!”
>
> Clip: Godfather vs Golddust 
>
> [image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*
>
> The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
> damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Domination and also played plenty
> of different characters.
>
> Clip: Faarooq disbands Nation of 
> Domination
>
> [image: 29]
>
> *#8 Mark Henry*
>
> The world’s strongest man. Big Mark Henry went from being a bad guy with
> the Nation to “Sexual Chocolate” with the ladies.
>
> Clip: Mark Henry vs Goldberg 
>
> [image: kamala]*#9 Kamala *
>
> We all knew him for never being able to talk and tapping his tummy all the
> time. He had a series of clas

[scifinoir2] The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

[Mr. Worf]

The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
By Claudio E. Cabrera  July 30, 2010
10:23 am

[image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]

As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn’t WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
of those, I’d have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
wouldn’t hear me up so late.

In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of them
were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the only
ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers always
seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very stereotypical
light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the leader of a
Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala being
portrayed as a man who couldn’t speak and was made to seem as if all
Africans were like him.

All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
will claim that he isn’t Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
latter I won’t deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
brands was huge

In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in my
opinion and in no particular order) the “Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of
All-Time.”

Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
forgotten.

[image: Booker_T_511772a]

*#1 Booker T*

I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990’s. He has
come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!

*Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the
N-Word

[image: KOKO B WARE 2]

*#2 Koko B Ware*

If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it’s
Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
us look bad.

All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!

Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of Koko

[image: Junkyard Dog]

*#3* *Junkyard Dog*

I wasn’t old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.

May he rest in peace.*
*

Clip: Tribute to Junkyard
Dog

[image: Picture 1]

*#4 Ice Train*

If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.

Clip: Giant vs Ice
Train

[image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]

*#5 **The Rock*

“Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?”

That was The Rock’s catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a match.
The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest ever
in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People’s Elbow?

Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian
Garcia

[image: godfather]

*#6 **Godfather*

Three words: “Pimpin Aint Easy!”

Clip: Godfather vs Golddust 

[image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*

The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Domination and also played plenty
of different characters.

Clip: Faarooq disbands Nation of
Domination

[image: 29]

*#8 Mark Henry*

The world’s strongest man. Big Mark Henry went from being a bad guy with the
Nation to “Sexual Chocolate” with the ladies.

Clip: Mark Henry vs Goldberg 

[image: kamala]*#9 Kamala *

We all knew him for never being able to talk and tapping his tummy all the
time. He had a series of classic matches with the Undertaker.

Clip: Kamala vs
Undertaker

[image: Mr_T_article]

*#10 Mr. T*

The man who many believe was the first to make the jump from wrestling to
the mainstream. He went from the mat to Hollywood red carpets and big
screens.*
*

Clip: Roddy Piper confronts Mr. T


-- 
Celebrating 10 years

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Top 10 bada$$ movie gals

[Mr. Worf]

There needs to be a longer list. They forgot Pam Grier and Carrie Ann Moss
from the Matrix.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Addendum to this, two ladies more.
>
> Michelle Yeoh and Zhang Ziyi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>> While we're enjoying a layover in Bada$$ Land...
>>
>> http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/247328/top_10_badass_movie_gals.html
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 




-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

Re: [scifinoir2] The 20 Coolest Movie Scars

[Mr. Worf]

I think that it was Donald Pleasance from "You only live twice."
http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-villains/donald-pleasance?id=005

Or another guy but I can't remember.


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> THAT'S HIM!
>
> Robert Carlyle's baddie in "The World Is Not Enough" (which I watched on
> Monday, oddly enough). Thanks, Mr Worf!
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> There was a movie that I can't remember the title of where the badguy had
>> a huge scar across the right side of his face and the pupil of his eye was
>> white.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I get the feeling that they missed something, but I can't put my finger
>>> on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>>>


 The 20 Coolest Movie Scars

 HD screenshots of the best fake flesh wounds ever captured on film.
 By: Gene Newman
 07/06/2010 10:11 am

 *Platoon, Sgt. Barnes* (Tom Berenger)

 "Shut up! Shut up and take the pain! Take the pain!" (Credit: Platoon
 20th Anniversary Collector's 
 Edition
 )

 *The Dark Knight, Joker* (Heath Ledger)

 "Wanna know how I got these scars?" (Credit The Dark Knight 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Alien Resurrection, Johner* (Ron Perlman)

 "Earth, man. What a sh*thole." (Credit: Alien Resurrection 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Terminator 2: Judgment Day, John Connor* (Michael Edwards)

 The O.G. J.C. (Credit: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Skynet Edition)
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Army of Darkness, Ash* (Bruce Campbell)

 "Yo, she-bitch! Let's go!" (Credit: Army of Darkness 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Inglourious Basterds, Nazi Scum*

 Sometimes it's not the scar, but the meaning behind it. Especially when
 it's, as Lt. Aldo Raine says, "a little somethin' you can't take off."
 (Credit: Inglourious Basterds 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Die Hard With A Vengeance, Katya* (Sam Phillips)

 She didn't speak a word and still out-masculined Jeremy Irons by miles.
 (Credit: The Die Hard Collection 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Rambo: First Blood Part II, John Rambo* (Sylvester Stallone)

 "Murdock. I'm coming to get you!" (Credit: Rambo Box Set 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *300, King Leonidas* (Gerard Butler)

 "This is where we fight! This is where they die!" (Credit: 300: The
 Complete Experience 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Last Man Standing, Hickey* (Christopher Walken)

 "I don't want to die in Texas. Chicago, maybe. But not Texas." (Credit: 
 Last
 Man Standing / The Last Boy Scout (Action Double Feature) 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *The Edge, Styles* (L.Q. Jones)

 "'Cause he's smarter than the panther." (Credit: The Edge 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Waterworld, Deacon* (Dennis Hopper)

 "Don't just stand there, kill something!" (Credit: Waterworld 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Slumdog Millionaire, Latika* (Freida Pinto)

 "I thought we would meet only in death." (Credit: Slumdog Millionaire
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Sin City, Hartigan* (Bruce Willis)

 "And after I pull off that miracle, maybe I'll go punch out God."
 (Credit: Sin City 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Heartbreak Ridge, Sergeant Thomas Highway* (Clint Eastwood)

 "My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged
 more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you
 numbnuts put together." (Credit: Heartbreak Ridge 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *Die Another Day, Zao* (Rick Yune)

 Bond: "You know, I've missed your sparkling personality." (Credit: Die
 Another Day 
 [Blu-ray]
 )

 *A History of Violence, Carl Fogarty* (Ed Harris)

 "This isn't a completely dead eye, it still works a bit." (C