[scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12
When I first heard about this movie, I was really psyched to go see it, but when it turned into a viral sensation I decided to wait. I waited so long, that I completely forgot about the movie until a couple of days ago. Tonight, I decided to watch the movie for the first time and was pleasantly pleased. Paranormal is basically the old school scary movie formula with a modern update to it. Katie and Micah live together in a nice 3 bedroom home in the Los Angeles suburb. Over time Katie reveals that she has had a some weird things happening in her home since she was a little kid, so her boyfriend Micah decides to buy an expensive video camera and record their bedroom while they sleep. That's when the real fun starts. Who knows what happens when they are sleeping? Katie and Micah didn't know for sure. One of the best low budget films ever made. It actually made me jump a couple of times and that is hard to do! For those of you that saw the first film, the story continues with Paranormal Activity 2! Here's the trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi430835225/ 4 out of 5 stars Pros: Acting was pretty fair. Nice effects that was used well for a low budget film, proving that you don't need $150 million to make an entertaining film. Cons: Unfortunately, it is the kind of film that only works once because it is a little too reality based. There isn't enough mystery to make you watch it over and over again.
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12
I've heard lots of people say it wasn't all that scary on first viewing, but that it started working on them, and suddenly, at night in bed, they'd get really scared thinking about what the movie did. Did you experience that? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2010 2:05:06 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12 When I first heard about this movie, I was really psyched to go see it, but when it turned into a viral sensation I decided to wait. I waited so long, that I completely forgot about the movie until a couple of days ago. Tonight, I decided to watch the movie for the first time and was pleasantly pleased. Paranormal is basically the old school scary movie formula with a modern update to it. Katie and Micah live together in a nice 3 bedroom home in the Los Angeles suburb. Over time Katie reveals that she has had a some weird things happening in her home since she was a little kid, so her boyfriend Micah decides to buy an expensive video camera and record their bedroom while they sleep. That's when the real fun starts. Who knows what happens when they are sleeping? Katie and Micah didn't know for sure. One of the best low budget films ever made. It actually made me jump a couple of times and that is hard to do! For those of you that saw the first film, the story continues with Paranormal Activity 2! Here's the trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi430835225/ 4 out of 5 stars Pros: Acting was pretty fair. Nice effects that was used well for a low budget film, proving that you don't need $150 million to make an entertaining film. Cons: Unfortunately, it is the kind of film that only works once because it is a little too reality based. There isn't enough mystery to make you watch it over and over again.
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12
I just watched it a couple of hours ago, so I haven't been to bed yet. I'll let you know. :) On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I've heard lots of people say it wasn't all that scary on first viewing, but that it started working on them, and suddenly, at night in bed, they'd get really scared thinking about what the movie did. Did you experience that? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2010 2:05:06 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12 When I first heard about this movie, I was really psyched to go see it, but when it turned into a viral sensation I decided to wait. I waited so long, that I completely forgot about the movie until a couple of days ago. Tonight, I decided to watch the movie for the first time and was pleasantly pleased. Paranormal is basically the old school scary movie formula with a modern update to it. Katie and Micah live together in a nice 3 bedroom home in the Los Angeles suburb. Over time Katie reveals that she has had a some weird things happening in her home since she was a little kid, so her boyfriend Micah decides to buy an expensive video camera and record their bedroom while they sleep. That's when the real fun starts. Who knows what happens when they are sleeping? Katie and Micah didn't know for sure. One of the best low budget films ever made. It actually made me jump a couple of times and that is hard to do! For those of you that saw the first film, the story continues with Paranormal Activity 2! Here's the trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi430835225/ 4 out of 5 stars Pros: Acting was pretty fair. Nice effects that was used well for a low budget film, proving that you don't need $150 million to make an entertaining film. Cons: Unfortunately, it is the kind of film that only works once because it is a little too reality based. There isn't enough mystery to make you watch it over and over again. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Future article: High School Student Erika Benedictis - Automatic Piloting the Low Energy Gravity Manifolds to Go Anywhere in the Solar System
August 06, 2010 Techonomy - High School Student Erika Benedictis - Automatic Piloting the Low Energy Gravity Manifolds to Go Anywhere in the Solar Systemhttp://nextbigfuture.com/2010/08/techonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.html Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnextbigfuture.com%2F2010%2F08%2Ftechonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.htmlsrc=sp http://www.google.com/buzz/post *Ad Support* : *Nano Technology*http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=nano%20technologyPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Netbook* http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=netbookPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Technology News *http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=technology%20newsPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Computer Software*http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=computer%20softwarePLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/TFwhs4p6CCI/Imk/Oz0mZyfs-4Y/s1600/solarhighway.jpg Erika Benedictis is a high school student who wrote a prototype software system that would allow a spacecraft to autonomously calculate and fly low-energy orbits. http://debenedictis.org/erika/ISEFAbstract-2.pdf Erika is one of ten winners of the Intel Science contest who were at the Techonomy conference.http://www.inspiredbyeducation.com/uncategorized/today%E2%80%99s-sts-finalist-profiles-namrata-anand-and-john-capodilupo The Interplanetary Superhighway is based on a mathematical concept known as invariant manifolds (the tubes). http://www.cds.caltech.edu/%7Eshane/superhighway/description.html One may be able to travel large distances in the Interplanetary Superhighway without any propulsion. However, this may not always be the case. This is because the manifolds are actually in phase space which includes both position and velocity. Thus for true intersection to occur, the velocities must also match. Since the manifolds more frequently intersect in position space than in phase space, a change in velocity may be required. The energies required by the trajectories to travel on the Interplanetary Superhighway are typically cheaper propulsively than standard transfers. But this may require much longer time. The full writeup is 22 megabytes and takes some time to download.http://debenedictis.org/erika/DeBenedictisMarch3.pdf Erika has already been given a tour of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory. NASA engineers did show her the latest workhttp://it.ph.affinity.com/ctrack0.php?cmpubid=dkr04cmsite=nextbigfuture.comcmchannelid=cmurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnextbigfuture.com%2F2010%2F08%2Ftechonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.html%3Futm_source%3Dfeedburner%26utm_medium%3Dfeed%26utm_campaign%3DFeed%253A%2Bblogspot%252Fadvancednano%2B%2528nextbigfuture%2529%26utm_content%3DGmailcmref=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26view%3Dbsp%26ver%3Dohhl4rw8mbn4cmoe=googlecmoq=cmvd=115286442024114cmvc=392d931eb094cee1fd031474f411d6afcmtitle=Techonomy%20-%20High%20School%20Student%20Erika%20Benedictis%20-%20Automatic%20Piloting%20the%20Low%20Energy%20Gravity%20Manifolds%20to%20Go%20Anywhere%20in%20the%20Solar%20Systemrnd=1281165614342q=workat=XScmip=12cmis=607cmid=22cmdt=pon ion drives. Different kinds of ion drives can be matched to the composition of different asteroids. This would enable a vision of mostly autonomous robotic spacecraft using low energy orbits who could go to the asteroids and refuel themselves and mine asteroids for material for near earth colonies and projects. *If you liked this article, please give it a quick review on Reddithttp://www.reddit.com/, or StumbleUpon http://www.stumbleupon.com/. Thanks* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Future article: High School Student Erika Benedictis - Automatic Piloting the Low Energy Gravity Manifolds to Go Anywhere in the Solar System
And the children shall lead... thanks for this, Mr Worf. More help for something I'm writing right now. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: August 06, 2010 Techonomy - High School Student Erika Benedictis - Automatic Piloting the Low Energy Gravity Manifolds to Go Anywhere in the Solar Systemhttp://nextbigfuture.com/2010/08/techonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.html Sharehttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnextbigfuture.com%2F2010%2F08%2Ftechonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.htmlsrc=sp http://www.google.com/buzz/post *Ad Support* : *Nano Technology*http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=nano%20technologyPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Netbook* http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=netbookPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Technology News *http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=technology%20newsPLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks *Computer Software*http://www.nextbigfuture.com/p/searchresults.html?PLUCKsearchTerm=computer%20softwarePLUCKwhichPage=relatedAdLinks http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/TFwhs4p6CCI/Imk/Oz0mZyfs-4Y/s1600/solarhighway.jpg Erika Benedictis is a high school student who wrote a prototype software system that would allow a spacecraft to autonomously calculate and fly low-energy orbits. http://debenedictis.org/erika/ISEFAbstract-2.pdf Erika is one of ten winners of the Intel Science contest who were at the Techonomy conference.http://www.inspiredbyeducation.com/uncategorized/today%E2%80%99s-sts-finalist-profiles-namrata-anand-and-john-capodilupo The Interplanetary Superhighway is based on a mathematical concept known as invariant manifolds (the tubes). http://www.cds.caltech.edu/%7Eshane/superhighway/description.html One may be able to travel large distances in the Interplanetary Superhighway without any propulsion. However, this may not always be the case. This is because the manifolds are actually in phase space which includes both position and velocity. Thus for true intersection to occur, the velocities must also match. Since the manifolds more frequently intersect in position space than in phase space, a change in velocity may be required. The energies required by the trajectories to travel on the Interplanetary Superhighway are typically cheaper propulsively than standard transfers. But this may require much longer time. The full writeup is 22 megabytes and takes some time to download.http://debenedictis.org/erika/DeBenedictisMarch3.pdf Erika has already been given a tour of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory. NASA engineers did show her the latest workhttp://it.ph.affinity.com/ctrack0.php?cmpubid=dkr04cmsite=nextbigfuture.comcmchannelid=cmurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnextbigfuture.com%2F2010%2F08%2Ftechonomy-erika-benedictis-automatic.html%3Futm_source%3Dfeedburner%26utm_medium%3Dfeed%26utm_campaign%3DFeed%253A%2Bblogspot%252Fadvancednano%2B%2528nextbigfuture%2529%26utm_content%3DGmailcmref=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26view%3Dbsp%26ver%3Dohhl4rw8mbn4cmoe=googlecmoq=cmvd=115286442024114cmvc=392d931eb094cee1fd031474f411d6afcmtitle=Techonomy%20-%20High%20School%20Student%20Erika%20Benedictis%20-%20Automatic%20Piloting%20the%20Low%20Energy%20Gravity%20Manifolds%20to%20Go%20Anywhere%20in%20the%20Solar%20Systemrnd=1281165614342q=workat=XScmip=12cmis=607cmid=22cmdt=pon ion drives. Different kinds of ion drives can be matched to the composition of different asteroids. This would enable a vision of mostly autonomous robotic spacecraft using low energy orbits who could go to the asteroids and refuel themselves and mine asteroids for material for near earth colonies and projects. *If you liked this article, please give it a quick review on Reddithttp://www.reddit.com/, or StumbleUpon http://www.stumbleupon.com/. Thanks* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Paranormal Activity 12
Me being who I am, I'm resistant to see PA2. I have the first one somewhere, and haven't had the time to look at it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: When I first heard about this movie, I was really psyched to go see it, but when it turned into a viral sensation I decided to wait. I waited so long, that I completely forgot about the movie until a couple of days ago. Tonight, I decided to watch the movie for the first time and was pleasantly pleased. Paranormal is basically the old school scary movie formula with a modern update to it. Katie and Micah live together in a nice 3 bedroom home in the Los Angeles suburb. Over time Katie reveals that she has had a some weird things happening in her home since she was a little kid, so her boyfriend Micah decides to buy an expensive video camera and record their bedroom while they sleep. That's when the real fun starts. Who knows what happens when they are sleeping? Katie and Micah didn't know for sure. One of the best low budget films ever made. It actually made me jump a couple of times and that is hard to do! For those of you that saw the first film, the story continues with Paranormal Activity 2! Here's the trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi430835225/ 4 out of 5 stars Pros: Acting was pretty fair. Nice effects that was used well for a low budget film, proving that you don't need $150 million to make an entertaining film. Cons: Unfortunately, it is the kind of film that only works once because it is a little too reality based. There isn't enough mystery to make you watch it over and over again. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Thor's Comiccon Trailer Leaked (see it before ts taken down!)
Yea and verily! On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Said Kakese Dibinga s...@bayindogroup.comwrote: http://geekscape.net/news/thor-s-comiccon-trailer-leaked Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General, Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 em: s...@bayindogroup.com skype: saiddibinga -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] STRANGEST TYPES OF TOOTHPASTE
No, bacon I'd be fine with. Use that every day anyway. The whiskey and champagne options, though... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Whats wrong? You can't start the day confident with that your breath has the fresh taste of bacon?? :) On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, after seeing that, I just may have all of my teeth removed... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: 1.Nastiest Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4b5qpu-I/aSg/PUETGeu-B0A/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes1.jpg 2.Chocolate Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4eifPw6I/aSo/b5uaZcdWT5M/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes2.jpg 3.Bacon Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4gBubimI/aSw/C9DcfcsWEWw/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes3.jpg 4.Whiskey Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4jERvMGI/aS4/IQHOZaNFdEY/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes4.jpg 5.Two Way Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4miIi6pI/aTA/PQBhSHwP2zc/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes5.jpg 6.Monkey Brand Black Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4npP2E9I/aTI/KJ-pt1X-g_s/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes6.jpg 7.E-mail Diamant Rouge Toothpaste http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4pkvgwbI/aTQ/fgggmKRiaYE/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes7.jpg 8.Champagne Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4sIyYXFI/aTY/M_GikEZJX8k/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes8.jpg 9.Black Japanese Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4s0YmXWI/aTg/SU_99rOr11Q/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes9.jpg 10.Ice Cream Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4t-HcHmI/aTo/f1oo-6MtOII/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes10.jpg -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Dattoos would be the ultimate user/machine interface
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Re: [scifinoir2] Shape shifting robot is flattest Transformer ever
Oh, the things my fertile mind could use this for... [?] On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Shape shifting robot is flattest Transformer ever By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/ *21:55 August 5, 2010* [image: Studded with magnets and electronic muscles known as actuators, a prototype robot develope...]http://www.gizmag.com/shape-shifting-robot/15959/picture/118974/ Studded with magnets and electronic muscles known as actuators, a prototype robot developed at MIT can automatically fold itself into an airplane or an origami boat 3D Prototype Machinehttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BFTZ5cIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCtjT6bAB8LfKrwzAjbcBgJ9JEAEYASCz3PoBKAQ4AFDxr66ZBGDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7P2Y9QOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAYUBaHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3NoYXBlLXNoaWZ0aW5nLXJvYm90LzE1OTU5Lz91dG1fc291cmNlPUdpem1hZytTdWJzY3JpYmVycyZ1dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249ZmI0MjMzNTdmYy1VQS0yMjM1MzYwLTQmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbIACAagDAegD9QjoA5wC6AOwA_UDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtwWfZNOngVPWdGNR6ROA-BlIF0JUwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.rolanddga.com/solutions/rapidPrototyping/- www.rolanddga.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BFTZ5cIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCtjT6bAB8LfKrwzAjbcBgJ9JEAEYASCz3PoBKAQ4AFDxr66ZBGDJjvCGyKOgGaAB7P2Y9QOyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAYUBaHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3NoYXBlLXNoaWZ0aW5nLXJvYm90LzE1OTU5Lz91dG1fc291cmNlPUdpem1hZytTdWJzY3JpYmVycyZ1dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249ZmI0MjMzNTdmYy1VQS0yMjM1MzYwLTQmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbIACAagDAegD9QjoA5wC6AOwA_UDRAnum=1sig=AGiWqtwWfZNOngVPWdGNR6ROA-BlIF0JUwclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.rolanddga.com/solutions/rapidPrototyping/ Better Lifetime Value. No Fees and Lower Material Costs. Learn More! iRobot® Official Sitehttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BD_hfcIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCrHC6HPFh5zDDMCNtwGA1GEQAhgCILPc-gEoBDgAULDQnv36_wFgyY7whsijoBmgAaHspO0DsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gGFAWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9zaGFwZS1zaGlmdGluZy1yb2JvdC8xNTk1OS8_dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1HaXptYWcrU3Vic2NyaWJlcnMmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPWZiNDIzMzU3ZmMtVUEtMjIzNTM2MC00JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWyAAgHIAvng1wioAwHoA_UI6AOcAugDsAP1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtw0MnJTvSptHb6139a1k2LeXwPMYgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://clickserve.us2.dartsearch.net/link/click%3Flid%3D4300074208810%26ds_s_kwgid%3D580893744%26ds_e_adid%3D3260010803%26ds_e_matchtype%3Dcontent%26ds_url_v%3D2- www.iRobot.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BD_hfcIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCrHC6HPFh5zDDMCNtwGA1GEQAhgCILPc-gEoBDgAULDQnv36_wFgyY7whsijoBmgAaHspO0DsgEOd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb226AQozMDB4MjUwX2pzyAEB2gGFAWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbS9zaGFwZS1zaGlmdGluZy1yb2JvdC8xNTk1OS8_dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1HaXptYWcrU3Vic2NyaWJlcnMmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPWZiNDIzMzU3ZmMtVUEtMjIzNTM2MC00JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWyAAgHIAvng1wioAwHoA_UI6AOcAugDsAP1AwAAAEQnum=2sig=AGiWqtw0MnJTvSptHb6139a1k2LeXwPMYgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://clickserve.us2.dartsearch.net/link/click%3Flid%3D4300074208810%26ds_s_kwgid%3D580893744%26ds_e_adid%3D3260010803%26ds_e_matchtype%3Dcontent%26ds_url_v%3D2 Carpet Floor Cleaning is a Breeze with the Amazing iRobot Vacuum! Welding Robot Positionershttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BRorLcIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCrnnht0B4ej_mxXAjbcB4JFDEAMYAyCz3PoBKAQ4AFD9ouXx-P8BYMmO8IbIo6AZoAHntpv-A7IBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBhQFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vc2hhcGUtc2hpZnRpbmctcm9ib3QvMTU5NTkvP3V0bV9zb3VyY2U9R2l6bWFnK1N1YnNjcmliZXJzJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1mYjQyMzM1N2ZjLVVBLTIyMzUzNjAtNCZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsgAIBqAMB6AP1COgDnALoA7AD9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxmHiqUw_RmJ8XMQ2zqxKNbM38rnQclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.motionindexdrives.com/trunnion-index.php- www.MotionIndexDrives.comhttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BRorLcIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCrnnht0B4ej_mxXAjbcB4JFDEAMYAyCz3PoBKAQ4AFD9ouXx-P8BYMmO8IbIo6AZoAHntpv-A7IBDnd3dy5naXptYWcuY29tugEKMzAweDI1MF9qc8gBAdoBhQFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmdpem1hZy5jb20vc2hhcGUtc2hpZnRpbmctcm9ib3QvMTU5NTkvP3V0bV9zb3VyY2U9R2l6bWFnK1N1YnNjcmliZXJzJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1mYjQyMzM1N2ZjLVVBLTIyMzUzNjAtNCZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsgAIBqAMB6AP1COgDnALoA7AD9QMAAABEnum=3sig=AGiWqtxmHiqUw_RmJ8XMQ2zqxKNbM38rnQclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.motionindexdrives.com/trunnion-index.php Indexing Headstock/Tailstock Heavy Duty Trunnion Systems Robot Spare Partshttp://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BtntycIhcTO-HN476jASJs-SnCrv4kbcB48ijtAnAjbcBoKGgAxAEGAQgs9z6ASgEOABQpLfL0AVgyY7whsijoBmyAQ53d3cuZ2l6bWFnLmNvbboBCjMwMHgyNTBfanPIAQHaAYUBaHR0cDovL3d3dy5naXptYWcuY29tL3NoYXBlLXNoaWZ0aW5nLXJvYm90LzE1OTU5Lz91dG1fc291cmNlPUdpem1hZytTdWJzY3JpYmVycyZ1dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249ZmI0MjMzNTdmYy1VQS0yMjM1MzYwLTQmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbIACAakC-Cyz8C30gj6oAwHoA_UI6AOcAugDsAP1AwAAAEQnum=4sig=AGiWqtwBiyjR3tPDPOo_IuZyE5gBLWJdmgclient=ca-pub-1607124478120364adurl=http://www.swerob.com/robotparts-
Re: [scifinoir2] STRANGEST TYPES OF TOOTHPASTE
That's for the party folks. They should add on tequila, jack daniels, and yager miester flavors. :) On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: No, bacon I'd be fine with. Use that every day anyway. The whiskey and champagne options, though... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Whats wrong? You can't start the day confident with that your breath has the fresh taste of bacon?? :) On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, after seeing that, I just may have all of my teeth removed... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: 1.Nastiest Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4b5qpu-I/aSg/PUETGeu-B0A/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes1.jpg 2.Chocolate Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4eifPw6I/aSo/b5uaZcdWT5M/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes2.jpg 3.Bacon Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4gBubimI/aSw/C9DcfcsWEWw/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes3.jpg 4.Whiskey Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4jERvMGI/aS4/IQHOZaNFdEY/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes4.jpg 5.Two Way Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4miIi6pI/aTA/PQBhSHwP2zc/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes5.jpg 6.Monkey Brand Black Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4npP2E9I/aTI/KJ-pt1X-g_s/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes6.jpg 7.E-mail Diamant Rouge Toothpaste http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4pkvgwbI/aTQ/fgggmKRiaYE/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes7.jpg 8.Champagne Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4sIyYXFI/aTY/M_GikEZJX8k/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes8.jpg 9.Black Japanese Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4s0YmXWI/aTg/SU_99rOr11Q/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes9.jpg 10.Ice Cream Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4t-HcHmI/aTo/f1oo-6MtOII/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes10.jpg -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Now and When: The Radical Future of Urban Australia
Web Urbanist http://weburbanist.com http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgsfeedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/WebUrbanist -- Now and When: The Radical Future of Urban Australiahttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/WebUrbanist/%7E3/wkJz0aEg8ek/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=email Posted: 06 Aug 2010 10:00 AM PDT [ By Delana http://weburbanist.com/delana in Architecture Designhttp://weburbanist.com/category/architecture/, Environment Nature http://weburbanist.com/category/environment/, Technology Futurism http://weburbanist.com/category/technology/. ] Many futurists and future-minded laypeople believe that the future of civilization lies in the water. If the global climate continues to get warmer and the water level rises, land will become a precious and expensive commodity that not many will be able to afford. To counter the scarcity of land, cities may be forced to move into the oceans. This idea is the basis of several ideas to be featured at the Australia Pavilion in the Venice Architecture Biennale 2010. The Australia Pavilion http://www.architecture.com.au/nowandwhen display is called NOW and WHEN Australian Urbanismhttp://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/9736/australian-pavilion-at-venice-architecture-biennale-2010.html; it features ideas about what Australia will look like in 40 years. There isn’t much information accompanying the ideas, so they seem to be conversation-starting concepts rather than viable urban ideas for the future. The above image is “Aquatown,” a concept from NH Architecture and Andrew Mackenzie. Above, a compelling underwater city named “Syph” is one of the most interesting concepts. It features separate underwater pods to meet all of the needs of a city: food production, energy generation, residences, and everything else a thriving metropolis needs. The individual pods work together as a network to provide a comfortable underwater life for residents. The concept from Arup Biomimetics is just one of the 17 concepts that will be displayed at the 2010 Venice Architecture Biennale. The idea behind the design project was to free designers and architects from their customary constraints. This frees the designers to conceive of future urban spaces which may be technically impossible, but nonetheless encourages us to open our minds to new possibilities. Many of the designs in the project center on more traditional building sites (i.e. land rather than water) but consist of remarkable building characteristics or unconventional construction techniques. Is this what one of the world’s most urbanized areas will really look like in four or five decades? No one can say for sure today, but opening up the future by dreaming big seems to be the perfect way to start urban planners on the path to creating radical designs for our rapidly changing world. All 17 of the finalist concepts will be on display August 29th through November 21st in Venice. -- Want More? Click for Great Related Content on WebUrbanist: http://weburbanist.com/2009/05/11/future-past-173-radical-retrofuturistic-directions-in-design-technology/ Future Past: 173 Radical Retrofuturistic Directions in Design Technologyhttp://weburbanist.com/2009/05/11/future-past-173-radical-retrofuturistic-directions-in-design-technology/ From retrocool concept cars to far-out fashion in sci-fi inspired cities of tomorrow, these 131 samples of retrofuturistic design technology will take you back to the good old days to come! 16 Comments - Click Here to Read More »»http://weburbanist.com/2009/05/11/future-past-173-radical-retrofuturistic-directions-in-design-technology/ -- http://weburbanist.com/2007/06/19/graffiti-and-street-art-in-melbourne-australia-world-of-urban-art-part-1/ Graffiti and Street Art in Melbourne, Australia (World of Urban Art Part 1)http://weburbanist.com/2007/06/19/graffiti-and-street-art-in-melbourne-australia-world-of-urban-art-part-1/ For reasons no one seems to fully understand, Melbourne has become the world capital of street painting with stencils. 1 Comment - Click Here to Read More »»http://weburbanist.com/2007/06/19/graffiti-and-street-art-in-melbourne-australia-world-of-urban-art-part-1/ -- http://weburbanist.com/galleries/ 12 Inspiring Urban Image Galleries | 500+ Pictures http://weburbanist.com/galleries/ Jump in and take incredible visual tour of the best of WebUrbanist, from alternative forms of graffiti to amazing green designs and awe-inspiring abandoned places from around the world. Collection 1: ... 8 Comments - Click Here to Read More »»http://weburbanist.com/galleries/ -- http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweburbanist.com%2F2010%2F08%2F06%2Fnow-and-when-the-radical-future-of-urban-australia%2Fservice=bit.ly [image: Share on
[scifinoir2] Welcome to the future...
I walked into my local gym the other night and noticed that there was a bunch of biometric scanners and keypads sitting on the reception desk. They had implemented a new security system where you had to enter your telephone number and a finger print (they took a scan of my left and right index fingers) to enter the gym! I'm still trying to digest this much security for a gym! Is this our future? Will dna samples be next like the movie Gataca?
[scifinoir2] Did Nolan Rip Off Inception From Scrooge McDuck
Here's an interesting bit of info floating around der infobahn. I don't know if it's remotely accurate or not. I am just forwarding what was sent to me. I haven't even looked at it yet. That said, enjoy and let me know what you think http://videogum.com/208132/caught-inception-ripped-off-scrooge-mcduck/remakes-and-spinoffs/ Bosco
[scifinoir2] Robots, Consciousness and Rights
Robots, Consciousness and Rights http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html/1342634297/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Analysis by Jonathan Strickland http://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:13 AM ET 39 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html?print=true Email javascript:%20void(null); - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=Recently,%20I%27ve%20been%20researching%20artificial%20intelligence%20and%20consciousness%20for%20HowStuffWorks.com.%20While%20exploring%20the%20possibilities%20of%20machines%20with%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmlsubmitHeadline=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Deep-blue-1]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01310fc9c22e970c-piRecently, I've been researching artificial intelligence and consciousness for HowStuffWorks.com http://www.howstuffworks.com/. While exploring the possibilities of machines with self-awareness, I'm drawn to the debate about whether an artificially intelligent construct has the same rights as a biological entity. In other words, if we built a robot or computer that could seemingly think on its own and was aware of its own existence, should we give it the same rights and privileges we have as humans? The question itself may be moot. Our own understanding of the human brain is still limited. While some scientists and doctors are working on building a computer simulation of the brain, they're doing so without knowing all the details of how the brain works. It's like finding a mysterious machine and then reconstructing it without actually understanding what makes it tick. It may be impossible for us to create a machine capable of real thought and self-awareness. To make the debate even more complicated, there's no way to know if machine consciousness would resemble human consciousness. When it comes to the conscious mind, we have a very small sample size from which we can extrapolate. While a machine brain would be the product of human ingenuity (or possibly the product of another machine that was itself the product of human ingenuity), it's impossible to know right now if a conscious, thinking machine would have an intelligence comparable to ours. Would it experience emotion (simulated or otherwise)? Would it come to the conclusion that people are at best a messy threat that should be eliminated? Or would it just process the tasks we give it and never think beyond those parameters? There are dozens of science fiction stories that deal with machine consciousness and the ethical dilemmas that follow. There are doomsday tales that suggest machines will rise up against biological entities. There's Kurzweil's theory of the singularityhttp://www.howstuffworks.com/technological-singularity.htm, one version of which sees humans and machines merging together to create a new species beyond our imaginations. And there's the movie A.I., in which the audience feels empathy for a synthetic creature that possesses an intelligence and awareness that it doesn't understand. Are any of these futures likely? I once participated in an alternate reality game (ARG) in which the players were given the task of voting to bestow or deny basic rights to thinking machines. My philosophy is that creating a machine that can think isn't a great idea. It makes sense to build machines that are good at what they do but I don't see the need to design thinking versions. I certainly don't need my toaster outsmarting me on a daily basis. I voted against giving machines rights, though at that point it's really too late. What are the right questions to ask about artificial consciousness? And do you think we'll ever reach a point where we can create a truly conscious machine? We've seen Deep Blue defeat chess master Kasparovhttp://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/. We've also seen a computer at Cornellhttp://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/April09/NaturalLaws.ws.htmlextrapolate the basic laws of physics by observing a swinging pendulum. How far
[scifinoir2] South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ
South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html/2077556960/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Analysis by Tracy Staedter http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Wed Jul 14, 2010 09:54 AM ET 3 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html?print=true Email javascript:%20void(null); - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=South%20Korea%27s%20Yonhap%20News%20Agency%20and%20the%20Telegraph%20are%20reporting%20that%20South%20Korea%27s%20army%20has%20deployed%20a%20set%20of%20machine%20gun-toting%20sentry%20robots%20on%20the%20south%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmlsubmitHeadline=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Dmz-650x425]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f247939d970b-popup South Korea's Yonhap News Agencyhttp://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/07/13/030100AEN20100713007800315.HTMLand the Telegraphhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/7887217/South-Korea-deploys-robot-capable-of-killing-intruders-along-border-with-North.htmlare reporting that South Korea's army has deployed a set of machine gun-toting sentry robots on the south side of the Demilitarized Zone, the buffer zone that separates the country from North Korea. The robots are equipped with surveillance, tracking, firing and voice recognition systems and use heat and motion detectors to sense possible threats. The Telegraph story says, If the command centre operator cannot identify possible intruders through the robot's audio or video communications system, the operator can order it to fire its gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher. Apparently, North Korea has an army 1.2 million-strong, while South Korea's is about half that, at 655,000. *Photo: South Korean soldiers. Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ
Yes. Of course. Let's give the robots guns... I'll be in my bunker if anyone needs me. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html/2077556960/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Analysis by Tracy Staedter http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Wed Jul 14, 2010 09:54 AM ET 3 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html?print=true Email - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=South%20Korea%27s%20Yonhap%20News%20Agency%20and%20the%20Telegraph%20are%20reporting%20that%20South%20Korea%27s%20army%20has%20deployed%20a%20set%20of%20machine%20gun-toting%20sentry%20robots%20on%20the%20south%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmlsubmitHeadline=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Dmz-650x425]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f247939d970b-popup South Korea's Yonhap News Agencyhttp://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/07/13/030100AEN20100713007800315.HTMLand the Telegraphhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/7887217/South-Korea-deploys-robot-capable-of-killing-intruders-along-border-with-North.htmlare reporting that South Korea's army has deployed a set of machine gun-toting sentry robots on the south side of the Demilitarized Zone, the buffer zone that separates the country from North Korea. The robots are equipped with surveillance, tracking, firing and voice recognition systems and use heat and motion detectors to sense possible threats. The Telegraph story says, If the command centre operator cannot identify possible intruders through the robot's audio or video communications system, the operator can order it to fire its gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher. Apparently, North Korea has an army 1.2 million-strong, while South Korea's is about half that, at 655,000. *Photo: South Korean soldiers. Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Robots, Consciousness and Rights
Mr Worf, in the course of my Internet life, I've heard many a tale of 'bots. From ones that just walk around and talk and make humans happy to ones that DARPA's developed as part of their SERE program which have escaped containment when their human holders were sleeping. I seriously suspect that this dialogue is long past due, as there probably already are sentient AIs out there. The only question I ask is, What happens after they see 'Spartacus' ? On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Robots, Consciousness and Rights http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html/1342634297/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Analysis by Jonathan Strickland http://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:13 AM ET 39 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html?print=true Email - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=Recently,%20I%27ve%20been%20researching%20artificial%20intelligence%20and%20consciousness%20for%20HowStuffWorks.com.%20While%20exploring%20the%20possibilities%20of%20machines%20with%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmlsubmitHeadline=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Deep-blue-1]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01310fc9c22e970c-piRecently, I've been researching artificial intelligence and consciousness for HowStuffWorks.com http://www.howstuffworks.com/. While exploring the possibilities of machines with self-awareness, I'm drawn to the debate about whether an artificially intelligent construct has the same rights as a biological entity. In other words, if we built a robot or computer that could seemingly think on its own and was aware of its own existence, should we give it the same rights and privileges we have as humans? The question itself may be moot. Our own understanding of the human brain is still limited. While some scientists and doctors are working on building a computer simulation of the brain, they're doing so without knowing all the details of how the brain works. It's like finding a mysterious machine and then reconstructing it without actually understanding what makes it tick. It may be impossible for us to create a machine capable of real thought and self-awareness. To make the debate even more complicated, there's no way to know if machine consciousness would resemble human consciousness. When it comes to the conscious mind, we have a very small sample size from which we can extrapolate. While a machine brain would be the product of human ingenuity (or possibly the product of another machine that was itself the product of human ingenuity), it's impossible to know right now if a conscious, thinking machine would have an intelligence comparable to ours. Would it experience emotion (simulated or otherwise)? Would it come to the conclusion that people are at best a messy threat that should be eliminated? Or would it just process the tasks we give it and never think beyond those parameters? There are dozens of science fiction stories that deal with machine consciousness and the ethical dilemmas that follow. There are doomsday tales that suggest machines will rise up against biological entities. There's Kurzweil's theory of the singularityhttp://www.howstuffworks.com/technological-singularity.htm, one version of which sees humans and machines merging together to create a new species beyond our imaginations. And there's the movie A.I., in which the audience feels empathy for a synthetic creature that possesses an intelligence and awareness that it doesn't understand. Are any of these futures likely? I once participated in an alternate reality game (ARG) in which the players were given the task of voting to bestow or deny basic rights to thinking machines. My philosophy is that creating a machine that can think isn't a great idea. It makes sense to build machines that are good at what they do but I don't see the need to design thinking versions. I
Re: [scifinoir2] Did Nolan Rip Off Inception From Scrooge McDuck
Bosco, I once read an article by Ben Bova, in which he said that, basically, plagiarism has been rampant through out the history of writing SF. I'll use the transitive property of equality to apply that to movies as well. That said, I'm expecting the Long Arm of the Mouse to flex its muscles, should this be provable. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Here's an interesting bit of info floating around der infobahn. I don't know if it's remotely accurate or not. I am just forwarding what was sent to me. I haven't even looked at it yet. That said, enjoy and let me know what you think http://videogum.com/208132/caught-inception-ripped-off-scrooge-mcduck/remakes-and-spinoffs/ Bosco -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Welcome to the future...
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Even nine years post-9/11, paranoia's still out there. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I walked into my local gym the other night and noticed that there was a bunch of biometric scanners and keypads sitting on the reception desk. They had implemented a new security system where you had to enter your telephone number and a finger print (they took a scan of my left and right index fingers) to enter the gym! I'm still trying to digest this much security for a gym! Is this our future? Will dna samples be next like the movie Gataca? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] STRANGEST TYPES OF TOOTHPASTE
Give 'em an hour... it'll be on the shelves of your finer package stores nationwide. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: That's for the party folks. They should add on tequila, jack daniels, and yager miester flavors. :) On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: No, bacon I'd be fine with. Use that every day anyway. The whiskey and champagne options, though... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Whats wrong? You can't start the day confident with that your breath has the fresh taste of bacon?? :) On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, after seeing that, I just may have all of my teeth removed... On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: 1.Nastiest Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4b5qpu-I/aSg/PUETGeu-B0A/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes1.jpg 2.Chocolate Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4eifPw6I/aSo/b5uaZcdWT5M/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes2.jpg 3.Bacon Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4gBubimI/aSw/C9DcfcsWEWw/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes3.jpg 4.Whiskey Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4jERvMGI/aS4/IQHOZaNFdEY/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes4.jpg 5.Two Way Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4miIi6pI/aTA/PQBhSHwP2zc/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes5.jpg 6.Monkey Brand Black Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4npP2E9I/aTI/KJ-pt1X-g_s/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes6.jpg 7.E-mail Diamant Rouge Toothpaste http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4pkvgwbI/aTQ/fgggmKRiaYE/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes7.jpg 8.Champagne Toothpaste http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4sIyYXFI/aTY/M_GikEZJX8k/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes8.jpg 9.Black Japanese Toothpaste http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4s0YmXWI/aTg/SU_99rOr11Q/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes9.jpg 10.Ice Cream Toothpaste http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8M4A38LyBBs/TDh4t-HcHmI/aTo/f1oo-6MtOII/s1600/Strangest+Toothpastes10.jpg -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Robots, Consciousness and Rights
Good question! It depends on how repressed that they are. In one of the articles I read about interaction with robots, someone suggested that they program it so that the robots receive pleasure from doing their tasks. This way they will enjoy the work that they are doing. I think that with the advent of the laws of computing they may assist us in creating sentient machines that will not plan to take over the world. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, in the course of my Internet life, I've heard many a tale of 'bots. From ones that just walk around and talk and make humans happy to ones that DARPA's developed as part of their SERE program which have escaped containment when their human holders were sleeping. I seriously suspect that this dialogue is long past due, as there probably already are sentient AIs out there. The only question I ask is, What happens after they see 'Spartacus' ? On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Robots, Consciousness and Rights http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html/1342634297/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Analysis by Jonathan Stricklandhttp://news.discovery.com/contributors/jonathan-strickland/ Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:13 AM ET 39 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html?print=true Email - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmltitle=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=Recently,%20I%27ve%20been%20researching%20artificial%20intelligence%20and%20consciousness%20for%20HowStuffWorks.com.%20While%20exploring%20the%20possibilities%20of%20machines%20with%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/robots-consciousness-and-rights.htmlsubmitHeadline=Robots,%20Consciousness%20and%20Rights%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Deep-blue-1]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01310fc9c22e970c-piRecently, I've been researching artificial intelligence and consciousness for HowStuffWorks.com http://www.howstuffworks.com/. While exploring the possibilities of machines with self-awareness, I'm drawn to the debate about whether an artificially intelligent construct has the same rights as a biological entity. In other words, if we built a robot or computer that could seemingly think on its own and was aware of its own existence, should we give it the same rights and privileges we have as humans? The question itself may be moot. Our own understanding of the human brain is still limited. While some scientists and doctors are working on building a computer simulation of the brain, they're doing so without knowing all the details of how the brain works. It's like finding a mysterious machine and then reconstructing it without actually understanding what makes it tick. It may be impossible for us to create a machine capable of real thought and self-awareness. To make the debate even more complicated, there's no way to know if machine consciousness would resemble human consciousness. When it comes to the conscious mind, we have a very small sample size from which we can extrapolate. While a machine brain would be the product of human ingenuity (or possibly the product of another machine that was itself the product of human ingenuity), it's impossible to know right now if a conscious, thinking machine would have an intelligence comparable to ours. Would it experience emotion (simulated or otherwise)? Would it come to the conclusion that people are at best a messy threat that should be eliminated? Or would it just process the tasks we give it and never think beyond those parameters? There are dozens of science fiction stories that deal with machine consciousness and the ethical dilemmas that follow. There are doomsday tales that suggest machines will rise up against biological entities. There's Kurzweil's theory of the singularityhttp://www.howstuffworks.com/technological-singularity.htm, one version of which sees humans and machines merging together to create a new species beyond our imaginations. And there's the movie A.I., in which the audience
Re: [scifinoir2] Welcome to the future...
I was thinking that maybe folks were sharing id badges or using fake id badges to go to the gym. They were just using a barcode system check in originally and checking the expiration date. So maybe people were sneaking in for a workout? On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Even nine years post-9/11, paranoia's still out there. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I walked into my local gym the other night and noticed that there was a bunch of biometric scanners and keypads sitting on the reception desk. They had implemented a new security system where you had to enter your telephone number and a finger print (they took a scan of my left and right index fingers) to enter the gym! I'm still trying to digest this much security for a gym! Is this our future? Will dna samples be next like the movie Gataca? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] A Picture gallery of robots
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[scifinoir2] Thorium Debate at “Nuclear Townhall”
Thorium Debate at “Nuclear Townhall”http://energyfromthorium.com/2010/07/30/nth-debate/ Published in Alvin Weinberg http://energyfromthorium.com/category/people/aweinberg/ Media/Outreach http://energyfromthorium.com/category/media/ Strategyhttp://energyfromthorium.com/category/strategy/by Kirk Sorensen http://energyfromthorium.com/author/Kirk%20Sorensen/ on July 30th, 2010 Whether or not to use thorium is the “Debate of the Week”http://www.nucleartownhall.com/blog/debate-of-the-week-is-thorium-a-viable-option-for-the-future/over at “Nuclear Townhall” http://www.nucleartownhall.com/, which is rapidly turning into one of my favorite nuclear news sites. Stop by and share your thoughts. Here’s their intro: *You don’t have to be involved in nuclear very long before you start hearing about thorium. It’s the other naturally occurring radioactive element that exists in large supplies and can produce nuclear fission.* *The story is that Eugene Wigner, Alvin Weinberg and other pioneers of the Manhattan Project era believed thorium offered a much better way to tapping nuclear energy. We went the uranium route instead because uranium was the more practical option for the immediate task of building a bomb.* *Nevertheless, thorium is three-to-four times as abundant as uranium. It doesn’t require isotope separation – a huge cost saving. When bombarded by neutrons, thorium doesn’t fission but converts to uranium-233 — which does. With U-233, the production of transuranics is orders of magnitude lower. This obviates any proliferation issues. (U-233 can be used to make a conventional weapon but is consumed all along within the reactor.). Depending on the reactor, the spent fuel can be much easier to handle. India has large supplies and is developing a thorium-based nuclear cycle.* *While it might be a potentially appealing package for the U.S. — and was actually pursued to some extent in the 1990s — there are significant hurdles. The U.S. is obviously fully committed to the uranium fuel-cycle — as is the balance of the world — for the Renaissance. We are heavily invested in the status quo, both to meet U.S. demands and to compete internationally.* *Can or should a thorium fuel cycle play a side-by-side role in Renaisssance Rev 1.0? Is there a plausible business case for the massive investment necessary? Or do public acceptance and first-of-a-kind licensing issues make it impractical? Are there other more appealing Generation IV options? In short, what’s the best way to proceed — if any — with the Thorium option?* I left a comment (still in moderation as I write this) that said: *Yes, we should use thorium, but it is important that you use the right machine to do it.* *The “magic” of thorium is between it and U-238 (the two abundant nuclear isotopes) it’s the only one that can be consumed in a thermal spectrum reactor. That’s because its fissile product (U-233) produces more than two neutrons per thermal neutron absorption. Here’s the picture of how it works: * *http://energyfromthorium.com/images/thoriumCycleNielsen.gif* *Uranium-238 only can be completely consumed in a fast spectrum reactor. And fast reactors require 5-10 times more fissile material to produce the same amount of power, because the cross-sections are so much smaller in the fast spectrum. Here’s another picture:* *http://energyfromthorium.com/images/fissionXSgraphic.gif* *So you have only one choice if you want a thermal-spectrum breeder: thorium.* *That said, you have to account for thorium’s (and U-233’s) “idiosyncrasies”. It takes about a month for Pa-233 (the intermediate product in thorium’s conversion to U-233) to decay. If it absorbs a neutron during that time you lose it as fuel. So you either need to remove Pa-233 or you need to have a low core power density. In solid fuel, the second option is the only one available to you. That’s how the Shippingport reactor successfully bred on thorium in its last core, but running a reactor at low power density isn’t very economic.* *With fluid fuel, you have a lot of new options. That’s what Wigner advocated, but he didn’t know what fluid fuel to use. He thought it might be one based on water, and that’s what Weinberg started investigating at ORNL in the early 1950s. But there was no chemical form of thorium that was soluble in water in the conditions needed in the reactor. The better answer came out of left field from the folks who were working on the Aircraft Reactor project at ORNL in the early 1950s. They showed that a nuclear reactor based on liquid fluoride salts was feasible and had a lot of performance and safety advantages.* *Weinberg was clever enough to realize that because there was a soluble form of thorium in fluoride salts (thorium tetrafluoride) that he had the basis for a potentially winning combination: fluoride salts and thorium. He worked for the remainder of his time at the ORNL to try to bring that dream to fruition, but the AEC was against him. They thought that his
Re: [scifinoir2] South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ
It was just a matter of time before they did something like this. The problem is what happens when a bot accidentally starts a firefight and heats up the cold war between the two countries? I just watched a video by P.W. Singer on 'Military robots and the future of war.' In his video, Singer said that there are already 5300 drones in the field and a drone race is beginning to heat up between the countries to come up with their own robotic super drones. Its quite possible that in the next 20-30 years there could be fantastic robot wars between the countries because there isn't the same morality questions involved. A robot does not ask questions about are you sure that you want to blow up that village. It doesn't care if it is a tank or a little girl. It just does its job. You do not have to convince a robot that he will receive 700 virgins when it gets to heaven. It will just blow up when you tell it from the safety of your home. So the face terrorism may morph into the face of a robot jockey from a computer or a pre-programmed bot with a gps link and a dozen pounds of C4. With all of our creativity no one seems to be applying it to stopping war instead of making it easier to wage war. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Yes. Of course. Let's give the robots guns... I'll be in my bunker if anyone needs me. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: South Korean Army Tests Sentry Robots in DMZ http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html/2077556960/Top3/default/empty.gif/535066614230786455654941414a4e67?x http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Analysis by Tracy Staedter http://news.discovery.com/contributors/tracy-staedter/ Wed Jul 14, 2010 09:54 AM ET 3 Commentshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#view-comments| Leave a Commenthttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html#post-a-comment Printhttp://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html?print=true Email - Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.html - Twitterhttp://wd.sharethis.com/api/sharer.php?destination=twitterurl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News - Digghttp://digg.com/submit?url=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmltitle=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20Newsbodytext=South%20Korea%27s%20Yonhap%20News%20Agency%20and%20the%20Telegraph%20are%20reporting%20that%20South%20Korea%27s%20army%20has%20deployed%20a%20set%20of%20machine%20gun-toting%20sentry%20robots%20on%20the%20south%20topic=television - Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=discovery_cha79targetUrl=http://news.discovery.com/tech/south-korean-army-tests-sentry-robots-in-dmz.htmlsubmitHeadline=South%20Korean%20Army%20Tests%20Sentry%20Robots%20in%20DMZ%20:%20Discovery%20News [image: Dmz-650x425]http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0133f247939d970b-popup South Korea's Yonhap News Agencyhttp://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/07/13/030100AEN20100713007800315.HTMLand the Telegraphhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/southkorea/7887217/South-Korea-deploys-robot-capable-of-killing-intruders-along-border-with-North.htmlare reporting that South Korea's army has deployed a set of machine gun-toting sentry robots on the south side of the Demilitarized Zone, the buffer zone that separates the country from North Korea. The robots are equipped with surveillance, tracking, firing and voice recognition systems and use heat and motion detectors to sense possible threats. The Telegraph story says, If the command centre operator cannot identify possible intruders through the robot's audio or video communications system, the operator can order it to fire its gun or 40mm automatic grenade launcher. Apparently, North Korea has an army 1.2 million-strong, while South Korea's is about half that, at 655,000. *Photo: South Korean soldiers. Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images* -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
