[scifinoir2] Swordfish
I don't know if this movie has ever been discussed here, but I just watched Swordfish all over again for two reasons 1) I was bored and 2) I keep thinking if I watch it again I will like it more. Neither reason was worth the effort. I'm just curious, lots of people I know like the movie and not just because they got to see Halle Berry's boobies, I'm in the minority because I don't (the only scene I like is when Hugh Jackman is explaining how he cracked the DoD, Halle Berry negates all of his explanations, then he fesses up to just being au naturel and seeing the code in his head). What do you think? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star The Builder The Prescription Playboy
[scifinoir2] Perfectly Fine (Probably) Movies Grayson Hasn't Seen
Keith you asked, so here are a just a couple movies beyond Titanic and Monster's Ball on the list of award nominees/winners that are probably great and all but I haven't seen the, and don't plan to see them. What I will say is that for every popular movie on this list, I have seen a fringe movie that expanded my horizons. American Beauty The Reader Closer Forest Gump Mamma Mia (If this movie was about a black lady who slept with three guys and didn't know who her baby daddy was, with a Brothers Johnson soundtrack, I'm not so sure it would have had the same reception or be a huge production on the Vegas strip) Slumdog Millionaire - I have no idea why this movie is on my list. I listened all about it on NPR. Got the concept, was excited about it. Listened to the soundtrack. Rented it. Had it for two months before Netflix asked me if there was a problem at which point I returned it. Now it's on HBO on Demand and I *still* haven't watched it. So maybe it's not me rejecting the movie, it's just on the list by default. I'll figure it out later. Atonement - Pretty much anything featuring Keira Knightley that is not Pirates of the Caribbean makes my list, although my mother seems to think I would like The Duchess. Grayson Facebook Bright Star The Builder The Prescription Playboy
[scifinoir2] Gamer - Spoilers
Hey Guys, I'm coming out of lurkland! How's it going? I didn't go see the movie Gamer when it was in theaters, mainly because I am all Gerard Butler'd out. But I think, perhaps, I would have gone to the movies if I had seen the rest of the cast. Though Gerard and Luda were not big enough draws for me, adding in Michael C Hall, that chick from The Closer or Kevin Bacon's wife, whichever (that is mean and misogynistic and potentially offensive, but I don't care for The Closer and I'm offended by the idea that chocolate will make me batty and orgasmal... I find *that* misogynistic), Amber Valletta who's always either in a messed up relationship or is a thinly veiled prostiute or some king or has a kid missing in a movie, Alison Lohman who starred in the exceptionally gross Drag Me to Hell, John Leguizamo (my Latin boyfriend), Ohymygod is that Keith David?, and Mr Ripped himself, Terry Crews as Hackman made it a little more interesting. What I find I like about this movie is this: Because I do play a lot of video games, including adventure games, shooters, and war games, I recognized the concept of bringing that into a violent focus through a film which reads completely and utterly vicious and reprehensible because it exactly portrays game action with live people, and that concept was fully realized for me. I also think Terry Crews was stellar in the two seconds when he was not being all hack-y. At his introduction, he's breathing heavily and having what I can only refer to as a malevolent asthma attack that works well for the mood. The first speaking scene he's in I absolutely adore. He's sweaty, covered in blood and the lighting is very low. Since his and my complexion are about the same, I take sincere note of and appreciate the way they avoid over-lighting so that he both fades into the dark and becomes a menacing part of it that's almost anime in look and feel. Then he starts singing this cheerful song I've got no strings and he sounds really happy and it is super freaky and I love it. Now let's add that it's got some pretty cool future-PC affects and what has to be one of my new favorite musicalslashdanceslaskfightyetcrazilyKubrikian scenes led by the serial killer everyone wants in their neighborhood. It has the potential, I'm seeing it, I'm wanting it. but... It's kinda crappy... Yeah, I know. I know. But I needed to extol its positives earlier in order to fairly say it sucked... Here's my top ten list of things that irritated me: 1) The battle scenes were too long... Yeah, yeah, yeah I said that it made sense the way they were done and they appropriately simulated game play... so what! 2) Luda's attempt to persuade Simon into freeing Kable is a bit hard to believe... Oh I know the talk was necessary, but damn couldn't they make it a bit more eloquent of a moment? Actually, I retract that Luda and his whole organization the Humanz is not well thought out and is a trope for trope's sake. 3) Hackman does not get killed in a honorable battle mano a mano and I needed for that to happen. 4) Vomit and pee are not so great as energy sources even if they are renewable 5) Snowplows are not that agile 6) I saw the dude controlling Kable's wife in Seven, it didn't end so well for him... Wait a minute... that wasn't Seven, that was The Last Comic Standing. 7) We're all slaves... Shaking my head at this scene. 8) Milo Ventimiglia: You embarassed yourself once in The Curse and it was amusing. This time, not so much. Rick Rape? Really, you should be ashamed of yourself. 9) Why do people seem to equate the near future with the abuse latex? 10) My nanocells are meant to transmit. nuff said. The ending of this movie is like the ending of one of my books before my editor gets violent with me. I get rushed and impatient and want to finish so damn bad I take rush. I admit it. It's a shortcoming. THAT'S why I thank my editor in advance for the literary violence and work on it every single day. But damn... really? Did anyone else see it? --Grayson
[scifinoir2] Gwai Wik
Has anyone seen this movie? In English, it's titled the Re-Cycle. It's a horror film from Hong Kong. As a writer of some seriously disturbing fiction from time to time and from just a lover of horror, I have to say I really enjoyed this movie despite the really poor English subtitles. It had some genuinely scary moments based on real suspense. It also had some of the most visually stunning while simultaneously creepy effects I've seen in a long while (though the movie is 3 years old and I did not care for the whole inside-the-womb-with-crazy-dangling-fetuses). Usually I fail to flinch at horror these days but this one had me jumping in my seat a couple of times. From one scene to the next after we devolve into madness at one point and I completely let go of trying to figure out what the heck is coming next. The score goes along with it really well, too. I think the thing that stops me from giving it five stars or even four is that at some point the story seems to be more about one upping itself on the crazy than coming to a satisfactory conclusion, then the denoument is a bit of PSA which is a bit of a turn off (until the real ending which I enjoyed). Plus: Mass zombie uprising? mehhh... but the way that uprising ends... someone give that graphic artist a gold medal! Visually outstanding for me even without uber-budget effects. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com/ Facebook Bright Star The Builder __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[scifinoir2] KillerCon
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[scifinoir2] Pontypool
We just watched this movie. Have to admit I loved it. Has anyone else seen it? The entire movie takes place in a remote Ontario radio station, with a charismatic Stephen McHattie playing the grizzled radio host trying to report on a bizarre phenomenon outside without any anchor in reality or context in which to put the strange things he's hearing through the phone in lines, from other radio stations, and even his reporters in the field. There were many awesome quotes but here is my favorite: That was our own Ken Looney interviewing a screaming baby coming from Mary Gulf's eldest son's dying gasp. That was a little baby. A tiny little baby. Oh yeah... and there's Honey the missing cat. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star The Builder
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Cameron
That's sad! I agree that it was indeed awesome! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Cameron I need to start tattooing reminders on the insides of my eyelids... I was supposed to watch that. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Cameron Date : Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:55:00 -0400 From : Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I was watching the Terminator season finale. It was awesome. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: truthseeker013@ lycos.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:12:22 -0400 Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Cameron Aubrey, I'm completely lost. No idea what show you're watching... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Cameron Date : Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:44:32 -0400 From : Aubrey Leatherwood To : Just said Hasta Luego! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. .. hopefully someone else was watching. Aubrey Leatherwood www..aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 _ _ _ _ _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive. com/RediscoverHo tmail?ocid= TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_Rediscover _Storage1_ 042009 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive. com/explore? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ allup_1a_ explore_042009 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] ...and tonight on SciFi...Thor and Wolves
Is it my turn to take the bullet? I was forced into watching Twilight... so I might as well do this one. No need for anyone else to fall on the sword... I've got it. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:11:33 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] ...and tonight on SciFi...Thor and Wolves I'm leery of anyone trying to do the Thor thing. Maybe I'm just still reeling, decades later, from the horrible, Incredible Hulk TV movie with Thor, where anyone could pick up Mjolnir. Not sure what to make of this flick. Another in the long line of scifi crap? and the movie War Wolves. I think that's the one with John Saxon. It's already aired once, I believe. Anyone seen it? Tell me it's worth a good time-wasting for late night viewing?! * * * 'Thor: Hammer of the Gods' airs Saturday, April 11 '09 at 9pm, and is repeated April 12 '09 at 1am on the SciFi Channel (US). This '09 made-for-TV movie stars Zachery Ty Bryan, Mac Brandt, Daz Crawford, John Laskowski, Raicho Vasilev, Alexis Peters, Melissa Leigh, Velislav Pavlov and George Zlatarev. Filmed in Sofia, Bulgaria, by Unified Film Organization (who brought us 'Polar Storm'). From Movie Web: The epic saga focuses on a Viking boy, Modi, who is cursed to never touch a weapon lest he lose his soul. Modi is a frustrated Viking, angry with the world and the Gods themselves. His quest against the Gods forces him into hand-to-hand battles with giants, trolls, demons and even beautiful Valkyries.
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: The 10 Shows That Deserve to Return Next Fall (But Might Not)
The Sarah Connor Chronicles is easily one of my favorite shows on television right now. The past few episodes have indeed been excellent and I'm saying I adore it. I like the cop in Dollhouse, the computer dork in dollhouse, and the star-crossed lovers in Dollhouse... not really taken with Eliza Dushku, but her handler is alright. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:27:40 PM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: The 10 Shows That Deserve to Return Next Fall (But Might Not) B, I've been told that, and I keep meaning to tune in, but something always leaps in the way. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: The 10 Shows That Deserve to Return Next Fall (But Might Not) Date : Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:16 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Well Dollhouse is done and Kings is nearly there. Is anyone else watching Terminator: The Sara Connor Chronicles? That show quietly has become one of the best shows on tv. The last two week's events have been a nasty mind*%#! and the season(maybe series) finale is shaping up to be mindblowing. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, ravenadal wrote: http://tv.yahoo. com/blog/ the-10-shows- that-deserve- to-return- next-fall- but-might- not--228 The 10 Shows That Deserve to Return Next Fall (But Might Not) By Angel Cohn, TWoP | Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:50 PM Will 'Kings' be dethroned? NBC/Andrew Eccles With plenty of our favorite shows in danger of falling through the network programming cracks, it's time to bring more attention to the series that deserve another season, but may not get one. We know, we know, wishin' and hopin' didn't do Pushing Daisies any good, but we're sending out a prayer to the TV powers-that- be anyway: when upfront time rolls around in a month or so, please let at least some of these shows reappear on your schedules. 1. Chuck In short, this show is clever, all-around fun, with a great cast, stellar writing and lots and lots of heart. And Chuck and Sarah may be the TV couple we most enjoy seeing almost hook up, but not quite. Save that for season five or six. 2. Life Charlie Crews, the fruit-loving L.A. detective with a Zen attitude, has become one of our favorite TV cops ever in just under two years, thanks to Damian Lewis' deceptively placid, quirky charisma. This season, the weekly cases got more creative, the supporting cast got stronger (partly due to the addition of Donal Logue and Gabrielle Union) and the underlying conspiracy plot got twistier. 3. Fringe We tuned in because of Joshua Jackson, stuck around despite a slightly sluggish start, and were finally rewarded with some fun science fiction. We're just getting to the interesting mythology, and we're finally warming up to Anna Torv, mostly because she kicks butt. It's a little bit of Alias and a little bit of X-Files, with some really gross/awesome monsters of the week, and just turning out to be a pretty enjoyable action series. 4. Better Off Ted We need a good workplace comedy to make us laugh again, since The Office has been disappointing us lately. This one is more akin to Andy Richter Controls the Universe and is filled with that quirk and innate silliness that turns off the general public who prefer the more straight-forward sitcoms like Rules of Engagement. 5. Dollhouse We're still iffy on this show, but it took a while for Angel to really hit its stride, too. Even Buffy had some less-than-stellar first season episodes. Perhaps that's just part of Joss Whedon's style. It seems like Joss and Co. are making an active effort to work out the kinks to really get this series to meet the high standards his fans hold him to. It's getting there, but without a second season, we may never get to see that vision realized. 6. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles We've already lost one show with robots this season with the end of BSG. Don't take our other one away from us. We need some robots kicking butt to really round out our weekly TV viewing. Seriously though, we love the idea of this show and every time it starts to wear our patience thin with family drama, they hook us again with more cool Terminator technology. 7. Kings This ambitious series is bringing a whole world to life, and the twisted tale just started
Re: [scifinoir2] Has anybody seen The Golden Compass
By pacing is adult did you mean geriatric? I saw the movie and enjoyed it for the artistry of it. I loved the little daemons. I figured something important was going on with dust but since I haven't read the books either, it was somewhat difficult for me to follow mainly because I kept getting bored and not paying attention... and I already knew Nicole Kidman was evil. I rewatc this movie recently and was again overwhelmed by the way it look and the little world building detailsbut was completely underwhelmed by the plot. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star : When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Now available in print! From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 8:58:53 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Has anybody seen The Golden Compass I haven't read The Golden Compass and, while I have owned the DVD for some time, I haven't watched it yet. This morning, I am sitting in my basement office following my Sunday ritual where I read my two Sunday newspapers and listen to NPR and, as is my wont to do, watch television with the sound off. This morning I am watching The Golden Compass on the MORMAX pay movie channel and it is easy to see why it underperformed at the box office. The movie is gorgeous, painterly even, but watching it is like watching paint dry. I am thirty minutes in and literally NOTHING has happened. Once again, it is wonderful eye candy - the camera absolutely loves Daniel Craig and, especially, the usually pale and wan Nicole Kidman - and the hyper realistic (and ever present) animals are marvelously rendered and detailed but I can't imagine sitting in a theater with three small children and trying to keep them engaged during this. It is definitely not a repeat business movie. It is old-fashioned in its pacing and possibly too adult for its own good. That said, however, it is a marvelous moving picture and has great background visuals. I will be playing this without the sound again some sunday morning. ~rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow
you took the words right out of my fingers! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:36:57 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Keith, Methos was commonly regarded as the oldest of all Immortals. With that, no doubt came the gift of common sense and the loss of a flair for the dramatic. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Date : Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Ha-ha! In the series, Duncan showed Tessa he was immortal by shooting himself, dying, then coming back to life while she was on the phone to the cops. I never got why an Immortal just didn't take a knife, cut himself, and let the wound heal instantly to make the point. I know Methos did that once to prove his immortality. - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:08:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Just like McCloud from Highlander everytime he shows a chick he's immortal by stabbing himself in the belly. God, I hate those movies. Justin On 4-Apr-09, at 10:27 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com wrote: Please tell me that someone saw the RIDICULOUS love scene! Seriously? Michael Paré gets the horn whenever he retells the story of the brutal death of his family? And how did all those damn candles get lit? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:25:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Um... there's more? Really? It's possible he could be up to more? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/index. php?main_ page=product_ infoproducts_id= 608 From: Keith Johnson To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 9:06:36 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Hahahahaha! That is funny! Other than acting in bad movies with fading stars like Pare and Segal, and hitting the gym to get that prison body, what's Ja Rule up to nowadays? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:00:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow I remember when Ja Rule had a number one album... nostalgia's a bitch. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:59:25 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Wow, I didn't know Pare was in BloodRayne! How sad. I remember back when people would speak of him in the same breath as Sean Penn, Timothy Hutton, and other promising up and coming young men... - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 8:10:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Hmmm... Michael Paré Isn't that the feller that was in BloodRayne I and II... Uhhuh. Yep, that's the feller. I think I'd rather alternate between working and playing that controversial Resident Evil 5. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: David Cronenberg Planning a Sequel to 'Eastern Promises'
Rave, you and I have had this conversation! :) lol... Y'know I love Cronenberg... even Eastern Promises... I'll take a sequel. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 5:36:33 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: David Cronenberg Planning a Sequel to 'Eastern Promises' I am a huge David Cronenberg fan. I love his early funny stuff like Rabid (zombies!) and Scanners (exploding heads!) and I adore his SF with a heart phase that includes two of my favorite films: The Dead Zone and The Fly. I even like his kinky stuff: Videodrome, Dead Ringers. But, of his more mature recent fare, I think A History of Violence is much more satisfying than Eastern Promises. I would much prefer another serving of Tom Stall/Joey Cusack over a second go round with steely Nikolai. ~(no)rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: David http://www.cinematical.com/2009/03/30/david-cronenberg-planning-a-sequel-to -eastern-promises/ Cronenberg Planning a Sequel to 'Eastern Promises' by Elisabeth Rappe http://www.cinematical.com/bloggers/elisabeth-rappe/ Mar 30th 2009 // 9:02PM Filed under: Drama http://www.cinematical.com/category/drama/ , Independent http://www.cinematical.com/category/independent/ , Thrillers http://www.cinematical.com/category/thrillers/ , Mystery http://www.cinematical.com/category/mystery-and-suspense/ Suspense, RumorMonger http://www.cinematical.com/category/rumormonger/ , Scripts http://www.cinematical.com/category/scripts-and-screenwriting/ , Focus Features http://www.cinematical.com/category/focus-features/ , DIY/Filmmaking http://www.cinematical.com/category/diy-filmmaking/ , Newsstand http://www.cinematical.com/category/newsstand/ , Remakes and http://www.cinematical.com/category/remakes-and-sequels/ Sequels http://www.blogcdn. com/www.cinemati cal.com/media/ 2009/03/david_ cronenberg2. j pgSequels are rarely good news -- but this one is. MTV http://moviesblog. mtv.com/2009/ 03/30/exclusive- david-cronenberg -making-plan s-for-%E2%80% 98eastern- promises% E2%80%99- sequel/ News caught up with David http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/david-cronenberg/1848457/main Cronenberg, who revealed he was moving forward with a sequel to Eastern http://www.moviefone.com/movie/eastern-promises/25300/main Promises. javascript: void(0);/ *1238443582989* / We are going to have a meeting very soon between me, Steve Knight and Paul Webster to discuss what the script would be, Cronenberg said. I have some very strong ideas about what I would like to see, but I would like to hear what they have to say as well. And then after that, if all goes well, Steve goes away and writes a great script. If we all like it, we make it. If they make it, Viggo http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/viggo-mortensen/1228459/main Mortensen will return. Cronenberg has never had any interest in revisiting his work -- and little of it ever has the loose ends that Eastern Promises did. It's the first time I've ever been in a situation where I actually want to do a sequel to something. I've never had the desire to do that before. But in this case, I thought we had unfinished business with those characters. I didn't feel that we had finished with Nikolai and we had done a lot of research that was more than we could stuff into that one movie. I'm thrilled beyond belief. The film exists perfectly fine on its own, but the mysterious Nikolai is begging to be explored further onscreen. I'll tip-toe around spoilers, but I never could understand why so many audience members believed it to be a happy, cut-and-dried ending. If you're curious and into research, there's some fantastic essays in Vol II of the http://www.amazon. com/Russian- Criminal- Tattoo-Encyclope dia-II/dp/ 0955006120 /ref=pd_sim_ b_2 Russian Criminal Tattoo encyclopedia. Given the scarcity of books on the topic I imagine this went into their research, plus the essays are rather Cronenberg-esque in the way they examine the tattoos and their effect on the human body. It gives an insight as to what Cronenberg and Mortensen might have had in mind when they created Nikolai. Definitely worth a read ... and a sequel.
Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow
Um... there's more? Really? It's possible he could be up to more? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 9:06:36 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Hahahahaha! That is funny! Other than acting in bad movies with fading stars like Pare and Segal, and hitting the gym to get that prison body, what's Ja Rule up to nowadays? - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:00:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow I remember when Ja Rule had a number one album... nostalgia's a bitch. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:59:25 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Wow, I didn't know Pare was in BloodRayne! How sad. I remember back when people would speak of him in the same breath as Sean Penn, Timothy Hutton, and other promising up and coming young men... - Original Message - From: Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 8:10:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Hmmm... Michael Paré... Isn't that the feller that was in BloodRayne I and II... Uhhuh. Yep, that's the feller.. I think I'd rather alternate between working and playing that controversial Resident Evil 5. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:38:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Furnace on SciFi Tomorrow Hey Greyson! Hey Aubrey! Hey Adrianne and Tracey! You say you're tired of Stephen Baldwin in SciFi movies? Well, tomorrow night, you'll get your wish. Presenting, Furnace, a supernatural thriller in which inmates in a prison get immolated at the hands of a vengeful spirit. And for your viewing pleasure, instead of Baldwin, you get Once-Upon-A- Time-Held- Promise actor Michael Pare in the lead. That ought to please you ladies! And helping hold down the fort--or prison--we also get treated to tough guy Good-Actor-But- Jacked-Up- Personal- Life Tom Sizemore, whose inclusion in this film almost saddens me more than Pare's. So much potential. Oh--and to really give you enjoyment, rapper Ja Rule's in the cast too! Now what more could you ask? I know all you ladies will be glued to the screen following every move of these hearthrobs as they solve the Myster of the Flaming Inmates! Who needs Stephen Baldwin? Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry Check it out.
Re: [scifinoir2] Question
Actually, I caught that. The funniest thing to me was how they whined like kids all day and of course, wHill wHeaton. :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 11:52:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Question hey group, got a question. did anyone see 'family guy' last sunday? just got around 2 it on my DVR. the cast of ST:TNG did the voices 2 their characters. it's great! Fate.
Re: [scifinoir2] Comedian Colbert's Win of Contest Puts NASA in Bind
Colbert strikes again. I love it. He keeps doing things that get him into the strangest kind of trouble. From the run for president to the actual hosting of dinner with the former president to this. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:54 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Comedian Colbert's Win of Contest Puts NASA in Bind This is a trip! NASA wanted serious suggestions for the module. At first, it seemed that fans of Joss Whedon's Firefly were going to get the name Serenity attached. Now, Colbert's won, and NASA doesn't know what to do. I don't think they want to name it after a (living) comedian. Maybe they have a rule against that? There's a joke going 'round now that maybe they'll name the latrine the Colbert Closet (my name) or something! * * * http://uk.reuters. com/article/ scienceNews/ idUKTRE52T5TN200 90330 NASA in Colbert conundrum over Space Station By Irene Klotz CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (Reuters) - NASA's outreach to the public to drum up interest in the International Space Station started innocently enough with an online contest to name the station's new living quarters. But Stephen Colbert, a comedian who poses as an ultra right-wing news commentator on cable television's Comedy Central, nosed into the act with a grass-roots appeal that has backed the staid U.S. space agency into a corner. The comedian's supporters cast 230,539 write-in votes to name the new module at the $100-billion space outpost Colbert. The top NASA-suggested name, Serenity, finished a distant second, more than 40,000 votes behind. Contest rules stipulate that the agency retains the right to basically do whatever it wants, but it may not be that easy. Last week, U.S. Representative Chaka Fattah, a Pennsylvania Democrat, called on NASA to do the democratic thing and use the name that drew the most votes. NASA decided to hold an election to name its new room at the International Space Station and the clear winner is Stephen Colbert, Fattah said in a statement. The people have spoken, and Stephen Colbert won it fair and square -- even if his campaign was a bit over the top. NASA is taking some time to ponder its next move. We have a plan and we're working with some folks and in a couple of weeks you'll know what the answer is, NASA's associate administrator Bill Gerstenmaier said. (Editing by Jim Loney and Vicki Allen)
Re: [scifinoir2] Comedian Colbert's Win of Contest Puts NASA in Bind
Ha! I like that one, too! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:22:58 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Comedian Colbert's Win of Contest Puts NASA in Bind ...so my 3 votes for The MF Doom Room never stood a chance. On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole wrote: Colbert strikes again. I love it. He keeps doing things that get him into the strangest kind of trouble. From the run for president to the actual hosting of dinner with the former president to this. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:38:54 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Comedian Colbert's Win of Contest Puts NASA in Bind This is a trip! NASA wanted serious suggestions for the module. At first, it seemed that fans of Joss Whedon's Firefly were going to get the name Serenity attached. Now, Colbert's won, and NASA doesn't know what to do. I don't think they want to name it after a (living) comedian. Maybe they have a rule against that? There's a joke going 'round now that maybe they'll name the latrine the Colbert Closet (my name) or something! * * * http://uk.reuters. com/article/ scienceNews/ idUKTRE52T5TN200 90330 NASA in Colbert conundrum over Space Station By Irene Klotz CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (Reuters) - NASA's outreach to the public to drum up interest in the International Space Station started innocently enough with an online contest to name the station's new living quarters. But Stephen Colbert, a comedian who poses as an ultra right-wing news commentator on cable television's Comedy Central, nosed into the act with a grass-roots appeal that has backed the staid U.S. space agency into a corner. The comedian's supporters cast 230,539 write-in votes to name the new module at the $100-billion space outpost Colbert. The top NASA-suggested name, Serenity, finished a distant second, more than 40,000 votes behind. Contest rules stipulate that the agency retains the right to basically do whatever it wants, but it may not be that easy. Last week, U.S. Representative Chaka Fattah, a Pennsylvania Democrat, called on NASA to do the democratic thing and use the name that drew the most votes. NASA decided to hold an election to name its new room at the International Space Station and the clear winner is Stephen Colbert, Fattah said in a statement. The people have spoken, and Stephen Colbert won it fair and square -- even if his campaign was a bit over the top. NASA is taking some time to ponder its next move. We have a plan and we're working with some folks and in a couple of weeks you'll know what the answer is, NASA's associate administrator Bill Gerstenmaier said. (Editing by Jim Loney and Vicki Allen)
Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes
I think this would be the place for a heroes rant :) I'm still watching it. Personally I agree with every thing you said except the Sylar bit. Love him. Claire makes me want to weep every time she's on screen and Peter/Bizarro Peter gets on my nerves as well. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Rouge wlro...@aol.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:31:44 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Heroes I know that I am not keeping with the subject matter of the group. But I was wondering are or is anyone still watching Heroes. I am at the point where I am fed up with the show and I was wondering if it is just that I am not giving it much of a chance. I mean don't get me wrong I get the idea that Sylar is the bad guy. I also get the idea that Peter wants to save the world. I also know that or understand that Claire wants to do something. But I am so tired of no one is able to touch Sylar at all. Is he the only person in that universe that is so bad that even he is not scared. If I am wrong please tell me and I will give it a shot if not then oh well. I am so sorry that I ranted--please forgive. --Lavender People may lie, but the evidence rarely does.
Re: [scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. (and Polar Storm)
Keith, great idea. You should write for SciFi. If Junior had done a Frankenstein on pacemaker dad, my opinion on this movie would have went up in so many ways. So very many. It would have turned this easily forgettable piece into something worthy of a cult following! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:26:50 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. (and Polar Storm) You summed up my experience perfectly. The acting was weak in some areas, such as that girl who's sorta-boyfriend gets killed when his car falls into a crevice. She's supposed to be in shock, but she just goes Poor Kevin, and doesn't really seem all that upset to me. And what about her dad later? Did they leave his body on the ground? Couldn't they have used CPR to keep his heart going? And given that the scientist's son wiped up that completely implausible lightning rod to start the car from an EMP, they might as well gone whole hog and had Junior do a Frankenstein on the girl's dad as well! - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:06:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. (and Polar Storm) I watched the movie too--it was like a train wreck, once I started I couldn't stop--and I kept thinking the same things you did. Honestly, it had an interesting premise but the execution could've been better. I wanted to yell at the mom and the son for acting like selfish idiots, scream at the soldiers for not having better tech, and go WTF at the President for acting like he was doing anything other than running a country. Security risk, huh? His science advisor was an airhead, too. Actors were good. In spite of the flaws in the plot and in some of the chars, I still got pulled in. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I agree. I thought the same thing. I kept thinking at first This is a cut above the standard SciFi Originals fare. And it was. Jack Coleman's a better actor than some of the schlubs they feature (Stephen Baldwin, for example). And I noticed the overall cast was a bit better too, their acting a cut above the usual porn- or c-movie rejects featured. Coleman's wife, even his son--all were decent. So I expected a decent B-movie. But ultimately it disappointed, because of the science and overall plotting. Coleman tried gamely, but so much was wrong. Some of the things that got me which couldn't be ignored: * A 300-meter wide object hitting Earth caused the mantle to slide around the core and the Earth's axis to tilt out of alignment? WTF? No way an object that relatively small could cause that. You'd need an object on the order of hundreds of miles wide. The latest scientific thought is the object which collided with Earth and caused the Moon to be created was a planet-sized body--and it's responsible for the current tilt of our planet's axis. * The goofy scientist told the Prez the Earth would tilt back to normal? Huh? How the heck would that happen? * The black female scientist was giving some data to Coleman about the strength of the radition field over Earth. She started yapping about the number of angstroms in the radiation. Wha...? Angstroms is a measurement of *length*, not radiation intensity! * Later, when the EMP's started hitting, the same Sister tells Coleman, The EMPs read forty kilohertz! Forty kilohertz?! , Coleman replies, Oh my God! (Reminded me of the 1.21 gigawatts in Back to The Future). I kept wondering, What the f*** does ' 40kilohertz' matter in terms of an EMP? It just means it's in the radio wave area--not even up to low level microwaves. I think they meant to up that frequency level a bit, cause even if the EMP was distributing communications, their reactions seemed to indicate it was more deadly,and that measurement doesn't support it. * Can you really survive a massive EMP just by turning off electrical and electronic
Re: [scifinoir2] Polar Storm and Obama
LOL! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Polar Storm and Obama btw..Real or fake.there is only a black president when the world is ending On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Well, Aubrey, your Earthstorm Stephen Baldwin vehicle was followed by another SciFi Original: Polar Storm. Starring the dude who plays the guy with the glasses from Heroes, it deals with an asteroid that hit Earth --or came close to it--and has knocked Earth off its axis. Like all movies like this, it has cheesy FX (the EMP that fried a dude in a car had me laughing) and is nothing to write home about. Standard background stories: kid not getting along with his parents, a maverick scientist who has to convince the idiots in Washington of the danger, etc. But as I was about to turn away from it to let my wife watch Young and the Restless, my attention was caught by the President. He was black (played by First Wave star Roger Cross). Now, in recent times, I'd see a black president, say Huh. Never happen, more fictional than the aliens zapping the humans, and probably turn the channel unless the movie itself was interesting. But now, with a real life man of color in the White House, I have a reality basis for which to make a comparison! So now, with a cool, pimp-walking, b-ball playing Prez leading us, I can look at Cross' muscular, tough demeanor and say that's pretty realistic. Nothing wrong with a black prez looking like an athlete. Now, I can thrill to watching the old white men get yelled at by the brother (okay--a little genetically- inbred payback fantasy!) and realize, that could happen--hell, Obama's probably cussing out a general even as the movie is playing! All of a sudden this fantasy isn't so fantastical. It's added a point of reality for me to relate to, and I can critic the Brother's performance against that of a real life Obama! -- cwm blog http://centralheati ngblog.blogspot. com STRING THEORY http://www.stringth eory.mypodcast. com
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again.
Glad to have made you smile! :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www..graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:48:22 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. First Laugh of the Morn Award to the lovely lady! -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. Date : Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Did somebody say something about demolitions experts turned into astronauts riding a shuttle powered by a nucular (in honor of the former president) pulse? oh yeah, baby, I think I just died and went to... oh wait... oh no... I don't think I like it here very much. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:07:35 PM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. Oh, boy... decisions, decisions in the quest for quality TV. Earthstorm on one hand... King Lear on the other... Martin (facing a few tough minutes ahead) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. Date : Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:06:54 -0400 From : Aubrey Leatherwood To : Stephen Baldwin just called a black guy homie. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 _ _ _ _ _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive. com/online/ hotmail?ocid= TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_70faster_ 032009 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Ozymandias???
No, not the Watchmen character. Ozymandias, as many of you know, is the title of a poem by Percy Byshhe Shelley and it plays a big part in this internal conversation I've been having with myself over being a published author. Have any of you authors out there felt like you just don't belong? I mean, have you felt like the subjects you're tackling or your style of delivery may not be something ever mass consumed, but you're writing it anyway? I've read a number of blogs and posts here and there debating the virtues or lack of virtues associated with writing to sell and talking about the importance of promotion. This is not one of those. This is a discussion, a question, about what you like to write, about whether what you enjoy in its empirical form fits in with what you read or it doesn't. It's about being remembered... or not. It's about whether you know who Horace Smith is or not. If any of this applies to you or you'd like to comment on the subject, please stop by today's blog at Amused Authors. http://amusedauthors.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/do-you-know-who-horace-smith-is/ Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Ozymandias???
LOL! Love you, Martin! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:20:01 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Ozymandias??? You called? Seriously, Grayson, I did/didn't know who Smith was until I began reading your blog, and it all came flowing back into my brain. And I understand the physical effect that the two poems indicate, each in its way.. The best way I can explain it is that. Shelley's Oz did a heckuva lot of damage in his passing. Smith's Oz did MORE, only leaving ONE leg sticking up from the sand. His Oz I REALLY wouldn't want to meet. (Pardon the shouting, gentles.) As for what kind of a writer I am, I try to be straightforward, my first-person narrator seeing the obstacle ahead and taking it on as best he figures. But the nature of my thought processes, as Astro best described it, verge into surrealism, a possible result of the years I spent learning French, being immersed in the works of! French surrealists almost daily for three years. (As a result of that, I can't even put more than five words of the language together in my head without a migraine ensuing..) So my work does ultimately come out as stream-of-conscious ness. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Ozymandias?? ? Date : Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : the_haunt_at_ p...@yahoogroups. com, lyricalpress@ yahoogroups. com, scifino...@yahoogro ups.com No, not the Watchmen character. Ozymandias, as many of you know, is the title of a poem by Percy Byshhe Shelley and it plays a big part in this internal conversation I've been having with myself over being a published author. Have any of you authors out there felt like you just don't belong? I mean, have you felt like the subjects you're tackling or your style of delivery may not be something ever mass consumed, but you're writing it anyway? I've read a number of blogs and posts here and there debating the virtues or lack of virtues associated with writing to sell and talking about the importance of promotion. This is not one of those. This is a discussion, a question, about what you like to write, about whether what you enjoy in its empirical form fits in with what you read or it doesn't. It's about being remembered.. . or not. It's about whether you know who Horace Smith is or not. If any of this applies to you or you'd like to comment on the subject, please stop by today's blog at Amused Authors. http://amusedauthor s.wordpress. com/2009/ 03/29/do- you-know- who-horace- smith-is/ Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Ozymandias???
On the subject of stream of consciousness. I wrote a scene in my last novel that took place in an isolation tank. I did the whole thing in stream of consciousness. When I finished I gasp edited it. I really couldn't seem to help myself. I mean I know better, but it was actually impossible for me to leave it alone. So, Martin, I applaud you and your ability to do it! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:20:01 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Ozymandias??? You called? Seriously, Grayson, I did/didn't know who Smith was until I began reading your blog, and it all came flowing back into my brain. And I understand the physical effect that the two poems indicate, each in its way. The best way I can explain it is that. Shelley's Oz did a heckuva lot of damage in his passing. Smith's Oz did MORE, only leaving ONE leg sticking up from the sand. His Oz I REALLY wouldn't want to meet. (Pardon the shouting, gentles.) As for what kind of a writer I am, I try to be straightforward, my first-person narrator seeing the obstacle ahead and taking it on as best he figures. But the nature of my thought processes, as Astro best described it, verge into surrealism, a possible result of the years I spent learning French, being immersed in the works of! French surrealists almost daily for three years. (As a result of that, I can't even put more than five words of the language together in my head without a migraine ensuing.) So my work does ultimately come out as stream-of-conscious ness. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Ozymandias?? ? Date : Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : the_haunt_at_ p...@yahoogroups. com, lyricalpress@ yahoogroups. com, scifino...@yahoogro ups.com No, not the Watchmen character. Ozymandias, as many of you know, is the title of a poem by Percy Byshhe Shelley and it plays a big part in this internal conversation I've been having with myself over being a published author. Have any of you authors out there felt like you just don't belong? I mean, have you felt like the subjects you're tackling or your style of delivery may not be something ever mass consumed, but you're writing it anyway? I've read a number of blogs and posts here and there debating the virtues or lack of virtues associated with writing to sell and talking about the importance of promotion. This is not one of those. This is a discussion, a question, about what you like to write, about whether what you enjoy in its empirical form fits in with what you read or it doesn't. It's about being remembered.. . or not. It's about whether you know who Horace Smith is or not. If any of this applies to you or you'd like to comment on the subject, please stop by today's blog at Amused Authors. http://amusedauthor s.wordpress. com/2009/ 03/29/do- you-know- who-horace- smith-is/ Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again.
Did somebody say something about demolitions experts turned into astronauts riding a shuttle powered by a nucular (in honor of the former president) pulse? oh yeah, baby, I think I just died and went to... oh wait... oh no... I don't think I like it here very much. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:07:35 PM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. Oh, boy... decisions, decisions in the quest for quality TV. Earthstorm on one hand... King Lear on the other... Martin (facing a few tough minutes ahead) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Earthstorm is on again. Date : Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:06:54 -0400 From : Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Stephen Baldwin just called a black guy homie. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. Available March 16, 2009 from Lyrical Press The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 _ _ _ _ _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive. com/online/ hotmail?ocid= TXT_TAGLM_ WL_HM_70faster_ 032009 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?)
I'll confess to being 100% enamored with science concepts but 100% clumsy with understanding their application. When I was very little, six or seven, I was obsessed with knowing how TV worked. My mother (who didn't seem to realize there were channels besides PBS) took me down to the public library where she found a children's book written about TV. We read it together and I was awed. But I was also unhappy. i still didn't know how it worked. I couldn't go out and build a TV based on the concepts I learned in the book. That's the story of my life with science. I've always been successful with the whys but never the hows. It's sad. Really. Feel bad for me. :-D So, because of my personal battle with science, I didn't set out to write a book with any science in it whatsoever, but that's what I ended up with. It was right for the book and right for what I wanted to create. So, because the science is there (actual science), I pressed my disclaimer that Bright Star was dark fantasy nearing horror, not to be read as science fiction. Which is trying to manipulate the system--I know--but never fear, it didn't work. Reviews came in and that's what reviewers called it, Science Fiction... reviewers who are *also* not physicians (lol... why do I have to call them physicists?) . So, I feared *real* scientists getting a hold of my book and tearing it apart. But now, not so much. I am unlike Warner Brothers in that I don't have the wherewithall to retain the world's leader in superhero physics, and I'm not nearly known enough to spark intense forum debate, lol. I'm just happy to hold my little book in hand and be proud of what it is whether the science is spot on or not. Now... I have also been told my attitude is an immense cop out. :) Don't get me wrong, I commend an author who goes out and gets a degree or certification in a subject in order to write about it. That level of authenticity can't be beat. But, in the end, my story isn't about science, it's about three messed up people. Or two messed up people and a third normal person who they subsequently mess up. I'm hoping that means I'm safe from the ghost of Newton. So here's my question Did you question the flux capacitor? When Dr. Emmitt Brown decided to install one in a Delorean and power it with Plutonium did you care? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” .. Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:26:40 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] How Scientifically Accurate Is Watchmen? How Scientifically Accurate Is Watchmen? A science consultant to the film explains some of its mysteries By Katherine Harmon The anticipated film Watchmen, based on the 1980s DC Comics 12-part comic book series (later adapted as a graphic novel), hits theaters tomorrow. Die-hard fans of the original publication may fret over its faithfulness to the series, but studio execs also worried about their movie's faithfulness to science. To set their minds at ease, they placed a call to Jim Kakalios, a physics professor at the University of Minnesota. .
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?)
That is awesome, Martin. You know, I never cared about the Flux Capacitor, because I think I came in with a that's impossible anyway feeling. BUT There are many times when I *have* cared about the science. Some of my favorite movies, (Gattaca, Strange Days, 12 Monkeys) still puzzle me and I feel the same frustration you do when I don't get more detail. But, I always worry that--because it's fiction--I'll get disappointed the further they go. At some point they'll have to submit to reality or either leave fiction alone and go benefit mankind in a much more direct fashion... Does that make any sense? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:38:57 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Grayson, yes, I did care about how the flux capacitor worked. I bought the first Star Trek Technical Manual after my best friend in HS showed me his copy. To this day, I try to puzzle out how the FTL drive on Battlestar Galactica works, and fume because they won't go into it in greater detail. Right now, I'm writing three major stories, one fantasy, one steampunk and one hard-SF. That one has so nuch tech stuff crammed into it that I have to appendix the scientific journals I read to obtain the ideas. The best definition of SF I've ever come across is that it's not all about zooming spaceships and laser blasters, but about scientific *ideas* and their impact on people. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Date : Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I'll confess to being 100% enamored with science concepts but 100% clumsy with understanding their application. When I was very little, six or seven, I was obsessed with knowing how TV worked. My mother (who didn't seem to realize there were channels besides PBS) took me down to the public library where she found a children's book written about TV. We read it together and I was awed. But I was also unhappy. i still didn't know how it worked. I couldn't go out and build a TV based on the concepts I learned in the book. That's the story of my life with science. I've always been successful with the whys but never the hows. It's sad. Really. Feel bad for me. :-D So, because of my personal battle with science, I didn't set out to write a book with any science in it whatsoever, but that's what I ended up with. It was right for the book and right for what I wanted to create. So, because the science is there (actual science), I pressed my disclaimer that Bright Star was dark fantasy nearing horror, not to be read as science fiction. Which is trying to manipulate the system--I know--but never fear, it didn't work. Reviews came in and that's what reviewers called it, Science Fiction... reviewers who are *also* not physicians (lol... why do I have to call them physicists?) . So, I feared *real* scientists getting a hold of my book and tearing it apart. But now, not so much. I am unlike Warner Brothers in that I don't have the wherewithall to retain the world's leader in superhero physics, and I'm not nearly known enough to spark intense forum debate, lol. I'm just happy to hold my little book in hand and be proud of what it is whether the science is spot on or not. Now... I have also been told my attitude is an immense cop out. :) Don't get me wrong, I commend an author who goes out and gets a degree or certification in a subject in order to write about it. That level of authenticity can't be beat. But, in the end, my story isn't about science, it's about three messed up people. Or two messed up people and a third normal person who they subsequently mess up. I'm hoping that means I'm safe from the ghost of Newton. So here's my question Did you question the flux capacitor? When Dr. Emmitt Brown decided to install one in a Delorean and power it with Plutonium did you care? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” .. Read the full
Re: [scifinoir2] Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints
Hear Hear, Keith! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:39:22 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints The problem nowadays is that everything is too micro-analyzed and watched. Whether it's Obama's performance, TV series, or movies, they are monitored on a minute-by-minute, second-by-second basis. A sixty-plus million dollar haul is great for a nearly three-hour, R-rated movie based on a comic that most people outside the fanbase never heard of. And even among comic fans, the majority have never read Watchmen. So, while the hype might have been way up there, i personally try to avoid it. I think it's doing well, it will do fairly well the next few weeks, even if box office drops greatly. It'll do well in countries like Britian where they appreciate a little more intelligent fare, and then it'll have great legs on DVD. But people calling this a failure? Well, that's the problem with Hollywood nowadays. Nothing gets a chance to prove itself in the long haul. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Cinque3000 cinque3...@verizon. net Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 2:21:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints By Graeme McMillan, 9:00 AM on Sat Mar 7 2009, 15,320 views Well, this wasn't what we expected. According to initial estimations, Watchmen made less money in its first day than Zack Snyder's 300, despite playing in more theaters. Has the backlash happened early? According to Exhibitor Relations, Watchmen made $25.1 million yesterday, including the $4.6 million from the Thursday night screenings, from 3,611 theaters; 300's first day gross was $28.1 million from 3,103 theaters. The box office tracking site now projects an opening weekend gross for Snyder's latest movie of around $60 million, which is below 300's $70.8 million... as well as, worryingly for Warners, Ice Age 2, the movie to hold the March opening weekend record prior to the swords and Spartans flick. Deadline Hollywood's Nikki Finke agrees, saying that [i]t's now certain that $70M, even if Thursday's 1,600 midnight shows are included in the total, is impossible, and quoting an unnamed marketing guru warning that things could get worse: They will get a lot of initial interest because it's an event movie in March — and then the bottom falls out. Whether Warner Bros can broaden the campaign to sustain interest in Watchmen is what movie analysts will be watching after this Sunday. While there's no doubting that Watchmen's opening weekend will be huge - at $60 million, it'll still be the third largest March opening ever - it's far below what now look, in hindsight, like unrealistic expectations; even yesterday, after all, we were being told that advance tickets were outselling 300 and that that a $70 million weekend was the target (although /Film pretty much hit the target with their estimate of $63 million in the first weekend). Now, because of such excitement - and because 300 was being set up as the movie to compare this to, Watchmen's big weekend looks somewhat less impressive. But who knows? Maybe word of mouth will boost the movie's Saturday and Sunday. Watchmen Scores $25.1 Mil Friday [Exhibitor Relations]
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?)
Ahh yes! Very true! But did Arthur C. Clarke explain how it worked? Actually, I have no idea whether he did or didn't... so please let me know. Did he? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:27:25 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) It does, Grayson. And, as for impossible , science fiction has made the impossible possible in many an instance. One I can name now - no one can copyright the satellite, because Sir Arthur C Clarke wrote a story about them years before anyone even *considered* lofting anything into orbit. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Date : Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com That is awesome, Martin. You know, I never cared about the Flux Capacitor, because I think I came in with a that's impossible anyway feeling. BUT There are many times when I *have* cared about the science. Some of my favorite movies, (Gattaca, Strange Days, 12 Monkeys) still puzzle me and I feel the same frustration you do when I don't get more detail. But, I always worry that--because it's fiction--I'll get disappointed the further they go. At some point they'll have to submit to reality or either leave fiction alone and go benefit mankind in a much more direct fashion... Does that make any sense? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:38:57 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Grayson, yes, I did care about how the flux capacitor worked. I bought the first Star Trek Technical Manual after my best friend in HS showed me his copy. To this day, I try to puzzle out how the FTL drive on Battlestar Galactica works, and fume because they won't go into it in greater detail. Right now, I'm writing three major stories, one fantasy, one steampunk and one hard-SF. That one has so nuch tech stuff crammed into it that I have to appendix the scientific journals I read to obtain the ideas. The best definition of SF I've ever come across is that it's not all about zooming spaceships and laser blasters, but about scientific *ideas* and their impact on people.. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Date : Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I'll confess to being 100% enamored with science concepts but 100% clumsy with understanding their application. When I was very little, six or seven, I was obsessed with knowing how TV worked. My mother (who didn't seem to realize there were channels besides PBS) took me down to the public library where she found a children's book written about TV. We read it together and I was awed. But I was also unhappy. i still didn't know how it worked. I couldn't go out and build a TV based on the concepts I learned in the book. That's the story of my life with science. I've always been successful with the whys but never the hows. It's sad. Really. Feel bad for me. :-D So, because of my personal battle with science, I didn't set out to write a book with any science in it whatsoever, but that's what I ended up with. It was right for the book and right for what I wanted to create. So, because the science is there (actual science), I pressed my disclaimer that Bright Star was dark fantasy nearing horror, not to be read as science fiction. Which is trying to manipulate the system--I know--but never fear, it didn't work. Reviews came in and that's what reviewers called it, Science Fiction... reviewers who are *also* not physicians (lol... why do I have to call them physicists
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?)
hey martin, hope you don't mind... but i used this business as blog-fodder today, i reference your frustration with not getting into the nuts and bolts but don't name names :) Then someone quoted Einstein on knowledge versus imagination... I hadn't heard the quote but that's because I apparently live under a rock. http//amusedauthors.wordpress.com Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:27:25 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) It does, Grayson. And, as for impossible , science fiction has made the impossible possible in many an instance. One I can name now - no one can copyright the satellite, because Sir Arthur C Clarke wrote a story about them years before anyone even *considered* lofting anything into orbit. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Date : Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com That is awesome, Martin. You know, I never cared about the Flux Capacitor, because I think I came in with a that's impossible anyway feeling. BUT There are many times when I *have* cared about the science. Some of my favorite movies, (Gattaca, Strange Days, 12 Monkeys) still puzzle me and I feel the same frustration you do when I don't get more detail. But, I always worry that--because it's fiction--I'll get disappointed the further they go. At some point they'll have to submit to reality or either leave fiction alone and go benefit mankind in a much more direct fashion... Does that make any sense? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:38:57 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Grayson, yes, I did care about how the flux capacitor worked. I bought the first Star Trek Technical Manual after my best friend in HS showed me his copy. To this day, I try to puzzle out how the FTL drive on Battlestar Galactica works, and fume because they won't go into it in greater detail. Right now, I'm writing three major stories, one fantasy, one steampunk and one hard-SF. That one has so nuch tech stuff crammed into it that I have to appendix the scientific journals I read to obtain the ideas. The best definition of SF I've ever come across is that it's not all about zooming spaceships and laser blasters, but about scientific *ideas* and their impact on people. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] The Flux Capacitor (was How Scientifically Accurate is Watchmen?) Date : Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I'll confess to being 100% enamored with science concepts but 100% clumsy with understanding their application. When I was very little, six or seven, I was obsessed with knowing how TV worked. My mother (who didn't seem to realize there were channels besides PBS) took me down to the public library where she found a children's book written about TV. We read it together and I was awed. But I was also unhappy. i still didn't know how it worked. I couldn't go out and build a TV based on the concepts I learned in the book. That's the story of my life with science. I've always been successful with the whys but never the hows. It's sad. Really. Feel bad for me. :-D So, because of my personal battle with science, I didn't set out to write a book with any science in it whatsoever, but that's what I ended up with. It was right for the book and right for what I wanted to create. So, because the science is there (actual science), I pressed my disclaimer that Bright Star was dark fantasy nearing horror, not to be read as science fiction. Which is trying to manipulate the system--I know
Re: [scifinoir2] Lost episode
I normally do but confess I'm not watching it tonight. As usual, I didn't watch the real episode either but it's there when I need it. :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:36:05 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Lost episode Anybody watching the pop-up video episode of Lost tonight? I am recording it as I watch it so I can read it later. ~rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Is Lost found?
I'm watching... And, well, not to sound like a negative nelly, cause really I'm not... I don't agree that the series has redeemed itself. I'm still watching though only when I get around to clumps of episodes on DVR. So far this season, if you haven't been watching, there have been a lot of flashes of light and a lot of nose bleeds. That's about it. And those two things are the hallmark of what I am calling: The Time Travel Trident (and I don't mean the kind Poseidon carries) . Seriously, the time travel device in this series has been like taking a Sam's Club sized pack of Trident and chewing like mad to plug holes in the hull of an aesthetically pleasing, wonderfully innovative, but disastrously engineered ship. I'd like it to succeed but don't really see how it can. Spoiler alert... I guess? Now, I haven't seen the show where they actually get back on to the island yet. I'm going to do that this evening between watching basketball and *not* watching the Academy Awards. But, I've heard it was great. My bff said she has been on the edge of her seat all season and that show was epic. We've been known once or twice to disagree on these things. Someone charged that what's wrong with this season is that there has been little action because, finally, many questions are being answered. I stick some well chewed Trident to that opinion. My questions haven't been answered, but that could be because I've held on to those raised in the first couple of seasons. I have not been distracted by the bright shiny light in the sky and luckily have not succumbed to a bitch of a nosebleed. We did see Danielle Rousseaux show up on the island pregnant with her Bande des Frères. A bunch of the fellows fall in a hole and come out differnt (not misspelled, I'm from Alabama, that's how we say it). She shoots them and before our eyes, or rather I should say Voilà! We get a glimpse of the crazy she becomes later. The only mission she gets before everyone is dead, by the way, is to get to the radio tower to call for help. Convenient, but not an explanation. We already knew she came with a team. We already knew she was pregnant. We already knew she believed her team to have been infected with a disease. So what did I gain from that story line? Zip. I'm still confused about the survival/purpose of her kid, ya know the one that got the axe in front of Ben last year... or was it the year before... It occurs to me that I've spent too much time on this Lost silliness... Damn, somebody get me a beer... Or, better yet, somebody tell me why you think this season is great. I long to feel differently because despite me thinking that the writers of Lost are like the bank's in October (they got a big stimulus package but instead of offering any help and forging forward to build, they decided to do housekeeping, balance their books, only to demand more resources and patience later), I'm still watching the show. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:16:49 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Is Lost found? I hear Lost is good again. Anybody watching? (EW Subscriber: It is better to have loved Lost and lost than to have never loved Lost at all.). ~rave?
Re: [scifinoir2] The Death of Ghost Whisperer
Why, Rave? Why? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:24:41 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] The Death of Ghost Whisperer http://ghostwhisper eroncbs.wetpaint .com/thread/ 2132621/The+ Death+of+ Ghost+Whisperer? t=anon Fans of the Jennifer Love Hewitt drama were left heartbroken last season when an accidental shooting left the psychic's husband, Jim (David Conrad), in a coma in hospital. Hewitt's character woke up at his bedside to see her husband apparently awake and well, only to discover that she was speaking to his ghost. Yes, Jim had died and Ghost Whisperer fans are livid. Then they discovered Jim wasn't dead. Well, he was, but his spirit was still alive and living in another body! And Hewitt's character is the only one who can see him (good news for David Conrad who suddenly has something to do)! Complication: he doesn't remember her or their marriage! Payoff: fans get to see them fall in love all over again! ~(no)rave!
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Lost found?
Martin... charging is cruel. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:36:35 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Lost found? The question posed - Is 'Lost' found? The answer, to paraphrase Soul Brother #1, It's LOST... in the wilderness.. . Martin (bad quips can be avoided with a generous donation to the Martin Baxter Comic Book Fund) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Is Lost found? Date : Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:16:49 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I hear Lost is good again. Anybody watching? (EW Subscriber: It is better to have loved Lost and lost than to have never loved Lost at all.). ~rave? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] These aren't the droids we're looking for
Keith, Oh Keith. Thank you for thinking of me at such an exciting time, however, I think... perhaps... that you've been misled. See... gosh, how can I put this? I *don't* enjoy the actings chops (are they chops?) of Mr. Stephen Baldwin. I can see why you may have had the impression that I did, but-- though it pains me to say it--you've got it all wrong. I don't. I don't enjoy the acting chops of the Lesser Baldwin. lmao Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogroups..com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:05:09 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Urgent Programming Note for Grayson! Hey all--and especially Grayson--just figured I'd let you know there's a great movie showing right now on SciFi. Called Earthstorm , it promises to be an exciting, edge-of-your- seat thriller. It deals with an apocalyptic event that I'm sure we all worry about: an asteroid crashes into Luna, unleashing cosmic chaos of debris raining down on Earth. In order to save the hapless peoples of Earth, a demolitions expert is called in to save the day. Earthstorm stars grade A star Dirk Battlestar Galactica/ A-Team Benedict, and--most importantly- - Grayson's secret crush--Stephen Baldwin!
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: These aren't the droids we're looking for
somehow, it think what they consider the evils of hollywood and what i consider the evils of hollywood may not completely match up... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:57:46 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: These aren't the droids we're looking for I find it hilarious that the lesser Baldwin and Dirk Benedict are both card carrying Conservative Christian Neocons who take every chance they get to bash the evils of Hollywood. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson..reyescole@ ... wrote: Keith, Oh Keith. Thank you for thinking of me at such an exciting time, however, I think... perhaps... that you've been misled. See... gosh, how can I put this? I *don't* enjoy the actings chops (are they chops?) of Mr. Stephen Baldwin. I can see why you may have had the impression that I did, but-- though it pains me to say it-- you've got it all wrong. I don't. I don't enjoy the acting chops of the Lesser Baldwin. lmao Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy Bright Star . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page=product_ infoproducts_ id=608 _ _ __ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... To: scifino...@. .. Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:05:09 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Urgent Programming Note for Grayson! Hey all--and especially Grayson--just figured I'd let you know there's a great movie showing right now on SciFi. Called Earthstorm , it promises to be an exciting, edge-of-your- seat thriller. It deals with an apocalyptic event that I'm sure we all worry about: an asteroid crashes into Luna, unleashing cosmic chaos of debris raining down on Earth. In order to save the hapless peoples of Earth, a demolitions expert is called in to save the day. Earthstorm stars grade A star Dirk Battlestar Galactica/ A- Team Benedict, and--most importantly- - Grayson's secret crush-- Stephen Baldwin!
Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Preview
Consider it destroyed. Jeez. I just saw this commercial and already I am planning to euthenize myself (shut up Aub :-D ). There's this one scene that lasts less than to seconds of her in some sort of uniform, flying a helicopter with her hair up and glasses on. All I could think was that someone went low-rent on the Wonder Woman homage. I shudder... then I weep. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:46:54 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Preview Fox will destroy this, too, and it will then be an online series. On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:13 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Looks like... -- Original message - - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com By this, Keith, am I to presume that the show *will* actually make it to TV, and not direct-to-DVD as I think? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Preview Date : Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:18:59 + From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I saw a commercial for it while watching Fringe. It was so quick and so--typical. Had I not already known the plot, i don't think the commercial would have revealed it, or interested me that much. I also didn't get why in the last shot of the commercial, Elisha Dushku is posing lying in what almost looks like a cheesecake shot. What does that have to do with the show? -- Original message - - From: Mike Street Here is a preview of Weldon's Dollhouse. Looks interesting. ..might give it a try when it airs. Cast is a bit to young looking for my taste though http://www.fox. com/programming/ shows/new/ dollhouse_ video.htm http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com Date: January 28, 2009 3:39:37 PM EST To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Preview By this, Keith, am I to presume that the show *will* actually make it to TV, and not direct-to-DVD as I think? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Preview Date : Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:18:59 + From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I saw a commercial for it while watching Fringe. It was so quick and so--typical. Had I not already known the plot, i don't think the commercial would have revealed it, or interested me that much. I also didn't get why in the last shot of the commercial, Elisha Dushku is posing lying in what almost looks like a cheesecake shot. What does that have to do with the show? -- Original message - - From: Mike Street Here is a preview of Weldon's Dollhouse. Looks interesting. ..might give it a try when it airs. Cast is a bit to young looking for my taste though http://www..fox. com/programming/ shows/new/ dollhouse_ video.htm http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] Foreigners vs Locals (was that thread about Mickey Rourke)
You know, Keith, I'm having the reverse issue that you speak of: We think much alike in that star casting thing. I don't know that I'd cast Rourke as a Russian, though. I have issues with the frequent casting of Americans in foreign roles, when surely there are good foreign-born actors who don't have to fake the accent. There are so many non-American actors playing Americans in movies, and especially on TV, of late that I'm beginning to wonder. Someone made the argument that if you're US-born, your career should be made by your thirties, so if we want fresh actors (not those tainted by disney, paris hilton, strange baby names, or weird healthfood or interplanetary religious trends) we have to go abroad. Bull Hockey! I say... even if I do like Hugh Laurie (loved him in blackadder) and that guy from Life. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009
Re: [scifinoir2] The Lit-SF Debate Has Become A Trope In Its Own Right
These were definitely interesting reads. Thank you for sharing them, Tracey.. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: [scifinoir2] The Lit-SF Debate Has Become A Trope In Its Own Right To: scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com, scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc: scifinoir-...@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:22 PM The Lit-SF Debate Has Become A Trope In Its Own Right By Charlie Jane Anders, 1:00 PM on Thu Dec 18 2008, 309 views Yet another literary boffin has said science fiction novels can't be literary, and it's (not surprisingly) sparked some controversy. Benjamin Kunkel in Dissent Magazine wrote a long exegesis on the difference between SF and literature — in a nutshell, literature has more complex characters and trickier dilemmas about the place of the individual in society. Henry Farrell at Crooked Timber took issue with Kunkel's analysis. I had a sense that Farrell was oversimplifying Kunkel's argument, and that Kunkel was actually making some valid points mixed in with his ill-supported generalizations. I was struggling with how to say that in a blog post, but luckily, Cheryl Morgan did it for me. Her thoughtful response to Kunkel's argument is well worth reading for its own sake, as she dissects the difference between genres and tropes. (Like, it's actually possible to write a novel about clones without doing the usual Are clones human? thing.) In a weird sense, the debate over literary fiction vs. SF has in itself become ridden with tropes, and Morgan does a good job of cutting through them.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: So... I watched Cha$e
Ha! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: So... I watched Cha$e To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:48 PM I can see it more as a Spike show, as they do so many video game-related stuff. (Not that I've watched, mind you. I still have my self-respect.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: So... I watched Cha$e Date : Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:56:53 + From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com yeah, but it doesn't belong on a station supposedly dedicated to scifi... -- Original message -- From: jgjcl2k1 That's funny. I found chase entertaianing. Much better than any reality show I've watched before. It's just entertainment and as such does a good job. I wouldn't mind trying out for the game. cocineroloco2000In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Why? Because I was working last night and didn't have the energy to change the channel. OK so the show is a lame. You guys knew this and you warned me and I appreciate it. But, being the gamer that I am, I have to say that even though I have no desire to watch it, I'd love to actually play it. I also see how they tried to make it relevant to Sci-Fi and failed miserably. On another note, thanks for the warm words Rave, stay away from Grayson's pack of OCs, I hear they give men breasts, or maybe that's urban legend. Also, after Cha$e went off, an animated feature named Dead Space: Downfall came on. I DVRd it but haven't watched it yet, anyone see it? Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You Know, The Sex They HaveISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. IncRomantic Time Magazine gives The People You Know; The Sex They 4.5 stars and had this to say: The stories in this entertaining collection are crisply written, and the author doesn't waste time or words getting to the point. Despite their brevity, these sex-filled tales will make readers care about the characters. Most interestingly, even though there's no dialogue, the communication between the principals is quite clear -- a remarkable feat on the author's part. __ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Is Dollhouse Doomed? 7 Trouble Signs
I enjoyed the movie welcome to the dollhouse... but i can assure i wouldn't want to see it weekend and weekend out... i like me some random messed up independent films. for what it's--not like i'm tellling you something you don't already know--dollhouse, no matter how doomed it is, is not going to be like that movie :D so be easy... lol Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Tue, 12/9/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Is Dollhouse Doomed? 7 Trouble Signs To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 3:35 PM For me the problem has always been the title. Every time I see Dollhouse I think of Todd Solondz's Welcome to the Dollhouse, which, while critically acclaimed, is artsy-fartsy, more than a little bit precious, and nothing I want to see week in and week out. In fact, my interest in Dollhouse wasn't peeked until I saw a still picture of Dushku (bless you!) looking hot in her Dollhouse costume in a recent issue of Entertainment Weekly. The astro-cowgirl chic - think Gina Torres in Firefly - gets to me. It's just the way I'm hot-wired. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Dollhouse Doomed? 7 Trouble Signs Rejoicing ensued when word came that Joss Whedon--creator of the beloved Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly--was returning to network TV with Fox's upcoming SF series Dollhouse, starring Buffy/Angel alumna Eliza Dushku (Faith). But that was months ago. And in the wake of news about the show's troubled development process, the buzz may be turning ugly. This may sound ridiculously nerdy, but I'm kinda scared to get all emotionally invested with another of Whedon's shows after the cancellation of Firefly, one person posted on YouTube.com after Dollhouse's trailer debuted there. We are all big supporters of Whedon, too, but we have to worry ourselves, just like these others: In Joss we trust, but not Fox. Should we start the 'Save Dollhouse' petitions now? :0) So true. Let's hope Fox doesn't mess this up!! There is a space on the market for a show like this. Alias, Dark Angel, BTVS, Bionic Woman all gone. My fingers are well and truly crossed. One of the most anticipated shows of the season, Dollhouse has had one of the most troubled preproduction journeys of any show in recent history. Dollhouse follows a group of mind-wiped secret agents who have different personalities and skills implanted in their brains for each mission. Dushku plays Echo, one of the dolls who is starting to become self-aware. Going by premise alone, the show should be Whedon gold. But the devil is in the details. Here are seven reasons to worry. This story continue below the video window. http://link. brightcove. com/services/ link/bcpid154514 8137/bctid190252 03 42 1. Pilot issues. Whedon filmed the pilot episode, Echo. Then it was announced that Echo would now be the second episode, and a new first episode was being shot. Then the pilot was thrown out completely. This is disturbingly similar to what happened on Firefly, Whedon's last network show, which Fox canceled abruptly in the middle of its first season. In the case of Firefly, the original two-hour pilot was bumped to later in the show, and a new one-hour segment was shot to introduce viewers to the complicated 'verse of the series. In the case of Dollhouse, Fox suits were reportedly concerned that the original pilot was too hard to follow. Once it became clear what paradigm the network was shooting for, it just didn't fit at all, even after I'd reshot more than half of it, Whedon posted on the site Whedonesque. com. How do you not know what the network is looking for? Didn't they tell you? This story continues below the image. dollhouse Stars Tahmoh Penikett (left) and Eliza Dushku (right) with creator Joss Whedon. 2. Work stoppage. Production was actually halted. Twice. Once for script issues on the fourth episode, and once for the sixth and seventh. Whedon said in a blog, To get a sense of how completely turned around I was during this process, you should know there was a scene with Eliza and the astonishing Ashley Johnson that I wrote and shot completely differently three different times, with different characters in different places (actually I wrote it closer to eight times), and none of it will ever see air. Really? The creator of the show had to reshoot something
Re: [scifinoir2] On the Telly Today...
I am on the Librarian block. I love that series. It's fun in a broader-span-of-history-national-treasure-y-kinda-way plus there is the added bonus that my favorite comedian Bob Newhart is in it. I love Bob Newhart. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Sun, 12/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] On the Telly Today... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 8:43 PM For those not enthralled by football or crazy pursuits like reading or writing, there's some decent TV on today as a distraction. First, the much-maligned SciFi channel is showing the miniseries Tin Man right now. I haven't seen it yet (on tape), but most of you gave it good reviews. That will be followed by Terry Gilliam's The Brothers Grimm, which I've never seen (is it any good?), and then capping off the evening is Tristan and Isolde, for those who need a fix of James Franco in a romantic fantasy. Over on FX, the eleventy millionth showing of Batman Begins is currently on (and yeah, i find myself watching again). That's followed by the lesser film X-Men: The Last Stand, and then a much lesser film--The Punisher, the unintentional comedy with Thomas Jane and John Travolta. That last can be watched for a few laughs and groans if you're bored. Finally, TNT has a good block. At 4 pm EST, they're showing the first of three movies about The Librarian : a nerdy young man (Noah Wylie) who gets a job as a librarian, only to discover the place holds more ancient and mythical treasures than King Solomon's Mines (which is the title of one of the movies, by the way). The third movie is new. I've thoroughly enjoyed the Librarian films as silly throwaway fare that's good for a laugh, with their unlikely adventures for Wylie around the world. Wylie and Bob Newhart are perfect for their roles. The Librarian films are followed by the debut of Leverage, a new series starring Tim Hutton about a modern-group of Robin Hoods who scam the rich and greedy. Although the premise is different, Leverage puts me in mind of the British series Hustle, which aired on AE. Miss that show, hope Leverage is worth a watch...
Re: [scifinoir2] On the Telly Today...
That's great, Keith! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Mon, 12/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] On the Telly Today... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:01 AM Yeah, Newhart is a great comedian. I've enjoyed him for years. Indeed, when I moved to the Chicago area after college, the third thing I made a beeline for in the city was those two round towers showed in the opening credits of The Newhart Show. The first was the Sears Tower; the second was Cabrini Green, the housing project featured in the Good Times opening trailer. (I always like to acquaint myself with all sides of a city). -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com I am on the Librarian block. I love that series. It's fun in a broader-span- of-history- national- treasure- y-kinda-way plus there is the added bonus that my favorite comedian Bob Newhart is in it. I love Bob Newhart. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 --- On Sun, 12/7/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] On the Telly Today... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 8:43 PM For those not enthralled by football or crazy pursuits like reading or writing, there's some decent TV on today as a distraction. First, the much-maligned SciFi channel is showing the miniseries Tin Man right now. I haven't seen it yet (on tape), but most of you gave it good reviews. That will be followed by Terry Gilliam's The Brothers Grimm, which I've never seen (is it any good?), and then capping off the evening is Tristan and Isolde, for those who need a fix of James Franco in a romantic fantasy. Over on FX, the eleventy millionth showing of Batman Begins is currently on (and yeah, i find myself watching again). That's followed by the lesser film X-Men: The Last Stand, and then a much lesser film--The Punisher, the unintentional comedy with Thomas Jane and John Travolta. That last can be watched for a few laughs and groans if you're bored. Finally, TNT has a good block. At 4 pm EST, they're showing the first of three movies about The Librarian : a nerdy young man (Noah Wylie) who gets a job as a librarian, only to discover the place holds more ancient and mythical treasures than King Solomon's Mines (which is the title of one of the movies, by the way). The third movie is new. I've thoroughly enjoyed the Librarian films as silly throwaway fare that's good for a laugh, with their unlikely adventures for Wylie around the world. Wylie and Bob Newhart are perfect for their roles. The Librarian films are followed by the debut of Leverage, a new series starring Tim Hutton about a modern-group of Robin Hoods who scam the rich and greedy. Although the premise is different, Leverage puts me in mind of the British series Hustle, which aired on AE. Miss that show, hope Leverage is worth a watch...
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE?
LOL Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:53 AM ;-D And, Grtayson, I have no idea what I'd do if it weren't H'Wood at the head of the Screw-Up Line. Probably lose the last vestiges of my faith in humanity... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? Date : Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:29:49 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Hollywood missteps... What if it's not Hollywood? What if it's independents? Or some fascinated foreign troupe? And please do stop before your eyes pop out, Martin dearest, lol, then you won't be able to read and respond to posts for a while and we'll all miss you. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoamp;products_id=608 --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 4:42 PM Grayson, I'm on the record here as saying that live-action, for any work I put to paper, is anathema, so much so that I've stipulated so in my will (my two heirs being my niece and nephew). Anything of mine that should make it onto film WILL be animated, and that the voice actors will be regular voice-work people, no name stars. H'Wood has established a track record of missteps that has put me off their work altogether. Remakes galore flying in the face of good, original screenplays being forced to beg for funding - I'm going to stop before my eyes pop out. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? Date : Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:04:29 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I'm up early, trying to finish a piece, and thinking about a recent inteview I did. I got a common question: If your book was turned into a movie, who would play your characters?Able to come up with actors for most characters but not all, I answered only for the female lead. After, I got stuck thinking of whether I thought it would even be a good idea to turn a book like mine into a movie. While I don't think I know any writers who would kick a movie deal out of bed (I'm one of them ), there are probably some that should. This group has seen movies and series offered and remarked--to quote Keith B Johnson--Who the @amp;(*^ greenlit this?!? I think my all-time favorite is the recent misstep of giving those Geico Cave Men a show... One could argue that it was doomed because it was not a feature length concept to begin with, but seriously... could this show have worked? My question is, what do you think makes something either good for live action film, bad for it, or if you think all things can be live action film as long as they have a good creative team driving the production, writing, and direction... Just curious. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoamp;products_id=608 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
[scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE?
I'm up early, trying to finish a piece, and thinking about a recent inteview I did. I got a common question: If your book was turned into a movie, who would play your characters?Able to come up with actors for most characters but not all, I answered only for the female lead. After, I got stuck thinking of whether I thought it would even be a good idea to turn a book like mine into a movie. While I don't think I know any writers who would kick a movie deal out of bed (I'm one of them g), there are probably some that should. This group has seen movies and series offered and remarked--to quote Keith B Johnson--Who the @(*^ greenlit this?!? I think my all-time favorite is the recent misstep of giving those Geico Cave Men a show... One could argue that it was doomed because it was not a feature length concept to begin with, but seriously... could this show have worked? My question is, what do you think makes something either good for live action film, bad for it, or if you think all things can be live action film as long as they have a good creative team driving the production, writing, and direction... Just curious. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE?
Hollywood missteps... What if it's not Hollywood? What if it's independents? Or some fascinated foreign troupe? And please do stop before your eyes pop out, Martin dearest, lol, then you won't be able to read and respond to posts for a while and we'll all miss you. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 4:42 PM Grayson, I'm on the record here as saying that live-action, for any work I put to paper, is anathema, so much so that I've stipulated so in my will (my two heirs being my niece and nephew). Anything of mine that should make it onto film WILL be animated, and that the voice actors will be regular voice-work people, no name stars. H'Wood has established a track record of missteps that has put me off their work altogether. Remakes galore flying in the face of good, original screenplays being forced to beg for funding - I'm going to stop before my eyes pop out. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] group question: should it be a movie? or series? on sci-fi? ANYWHERE? Date : Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:04:29 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I'm up early, trying to finish a piece, and thinking about a recent inteview I did. I got a common question: If your book was turned into a movie, who would play your characters?Able to come up with actors for most characters but not all, I answered only for the female lead. After, I got stuck thinking of whether I thought it would even be a good idea to turn a book like mine into a movie. While I don't think I know any writers who would kick a movie deal out of bed (I'm one of them ), there are probably some that should. This group has seen movies and series offered and remarked--to quote Keith B Johnson--Who the @amp;(*^ greenlit this?!? I think my all-time favorite is the recent misstep of giving those Geico Cave Men a show... One could argue that it was doomed because it was not a feature length concept to begin with, but seriously... could this show have worked? My question is, what do you think makes something either good for live action film, bad for it, or if you think all things can be live action film as long as they have a good creative team driving the production, writing, and direction... Just curious. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoamp;products_id=608 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
I keep forgetting to watch that show. And, I've been too lazy to DVR it. Is that a sign? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 1:37 AM It seems as though they have added many many many diffent subplots to extend the one book into a series. After two episodes (I gave up after two) they were so far away from the book that they should’nt even give it the same name. Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend So, is it even close to the books? I can't tell where they're going in the series: is there supposed to be a destination or endpoint for where Richard and his compatriots are headed? Are they headed toward a specific goal or confrontation, or just wandering the countryside? You know, my wife walked into the living room one day when I was watching the show, sat down, and in less than two minutes said This must be done by the same people who did 'Xena' and 'Hercules' I asked her why she said that. I was expecting her to say some things like, I recognize the scenery, the production values of the villages and costumes are the same, etc. Instead, she said I knew it was the same people because they have the same goofy way of fighting and acting. She commented on how people who got hit did those over-the-top flips that were so common in those two other shows. Remember? Herc or his friend hit a guy on the chin and he does a complete flip worthy of a circus star. She noted that the fighting styles are way too dynamic and acrobatic in nature to be realisitc. And she pointed out the same method they use of having an army attack the heroes, but you can tell in reality it's about ten guys, aided with a whole bunch of camera c uts. And the dialogue and lame humour is the same, she noted. So true. It really does feel like Xena-lite or something. I watch it if i'm home and bored simply because i jones for some distracting sword-and-sorcery, but it's not exactly original or overwhelming. -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On Sun, 11/2/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Recommend Your Vampire Favorites
My favorite line in 30 Days of Night come from the dirty little vamp friend (don't know his name, but he's my favorite character) You gon' gimme what I want to EAT and what I want to DRINK. The line's not pognant on paper, but you gotta hear that guy say it. I also enjoy all of his speeches in his cell... BAR DE WINDERS! Love that guy. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Sun, 12/7/08, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Recommend Your Vampire Favorites To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 7:46 AM Yes they were. The movie is so-so but the vamps are nasty. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: Yeah, i'd like to see a bigger return to the true bloodsuckers, the half-dead (not undead), zombie, creature-looking things that tend to just tear out your throat, not caress you gently as they lustily drain the lifeblood. Were the vamps in Thirty Days of Night of that variety? -- Original message -- From: Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like your picks. I'm not into hunky vampires at all. Meta --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Like Martin and I said, i'm tiring of the suave, young vampire as hunk nowadays. I'm also not a real big fan of vampyrs. Nothing against them, just not in love with the genre. So my list is relatively small: Nosferatu - one of the first and one of the best Dracula (1931) - Bela Lugosi as the Count. A bit dated and camp, but still fun to watch Billy the Kid vs. Dracula -- you read that right! A Western vampire flick, so horribly bad it's a must-see! Curse of the Undead - An undead gunslinger-for- hire in the old West! Watch the priest's shirt button with a cross on it used as a killer bullet! Dance of the Vampires (aka The Fearless Vampire Killers) - Roman Polanski's comedic take was goofy, entertaining fun Dracula (1972) - the classic with Peter Cushing as Van Helsing and Christopher Lee as the Count. Gotta love using the candlesticks to make a Cross! Blacula - so bad it's good, Blaxploitation enters the realm of the Undead Salem's Lot - the original miniseries. The little vampire boy floating oustide saying Mommy, I'm cold still creeps me out. Fright Night - another fun movie about vampires, with a good modern take. The Lost Boys - the movie's a kick, vamps like some kind of fun-loving Peter Pans--who just happen to like chewing on necks! Ultraviolet - the Brit miniseries that took a new (to me) take on vamps as a misunderstood ethnic group. Good, intelligent, and atmospheric. Blade and Blade II - not like the comic, but good escapist action -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella tdlists@ a few days ago, Bosco brought to our attention, a Vampire flick (Let The Right One In) that many of us likely would have missed. Are their other gems out there? Please post a list of some of your favorite vampire movies and books. Tracey
RE: [scifinoir2] Recommend Your Vampire Favorites
I enjoyed The Breed, with Adrian Pail. Bokeem Woodbine, and Bai Ling Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more
And ends up a million? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 5:09 AM Well...I don't think you'd be interested.. .It starts with a piece of car, power tools, and a word processor... -See that guy who looks like a cross between Elvis and George Clinton? He is Johnny Ross.- From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:01 PM Now that you... um... have the motivation.. . how you gonna make it? I'm looking for an investment! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews gave Bright 5 Stars: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoproducts_id= 608 --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:50 AM Now this is an incentive to earn my first million! -See that guy who looks like a cross between Elvis and George Clinton? He is Johnny Ross.- From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie --- On Wed, 12/3/08, space [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: From: space [EMAIL PROTECTED] net Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 5:47 PM A friend had me check out this personal submarines site which was amazing but then I found Poseidon seafloor resort. Right over the top! –enjoy –jeff.
Re: [scifinoir2] Recommend Your Vampire Favorites
Forgot about Queen of the Damned... Loved many parts of that one, too. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Recommend Your Vampire Favorites To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 3:10 PM I enjoyed Blade, Bram Stoker's Dracula, and Queen of the Damned. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:09 AM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: Of the ones you listed, i've only seen Blade. Near Dark is a must-see that I've heard about for years, but always manage to miss it when it's aired on cable. -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I am Gigantic Fan of Near Dark with Bill Paxton and Lance Henrickson as redneck trailer trash vampires cruising through Oklahoma. It is completely friggin awesome. Also Loves Include: The Hunger with David Bowie, Susan Sarandon and Catherine Deneuve. Shadow Of The Vampire with Willem Defoe Blade Bram Stoker's Dracula with Gary Oldman Bosco --- On Thu, 12/4/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Recommend Your Vampire Favorites To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 7:39 PM Like Martin and I said, i'm tiring of the suave, young vampire as hunk nowadays. I'm also not a real big fan of vampyrs. Nothing against them, just not in love with the genre. So my list is relatively small: Nosferatu - one of the first and one of the best Dracula (1931) - Bela Lugosi as the Count. A bit dated and camp, but still fun to watch Billy the Kid vs. Dracula -- you read that right! A Western vampire flick, so horribly bad it's a must-see! Curse of the Undead - An undead gunslinger-for- hire in the old West! Watch the priest's shirt button with a cross on it used as a killer bullet! Dance of the Vampires (aka The Fearless Vampire Killers) - Roman Polanski's comedic take was goofy, entertaining fun Dracula (1972) - the classic with Peter Cushing as Van Helsing and Christopher Lee as the Count. Gotta love using the candlesticks to make a Cross! Blacula - so bad it's good, Blaxploitation enters the realm of the Undead Salem's Lot - the original miniseries. The little vampire boy floating oustide saying Mommy, I'm cold still creeps me out. Fright Night - another fun movie about vampires, with a good modern take. The Lost Boys - the movie's a kick, vamps like some kind of fun-loving Peter Pans--who just happen to like chewing on necks! Ultraviolet - the Brit miniseries that took a new (to me) take on vamps as a misunderstood ethnic group. Good, intelligent, and atmospheric. Blade and Blade II - not like the comic, but good escapist action -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com a few days ago, Bosco brought to our attention, a Vampire flick (Let The Right One In) that many of us likely would have missed. Are their other gems out there? Please post a list of some of your favorite vampire movies and books. Tracey
Re: [scifinoir2] Roll Call: Name Your Favorite Games
Um I NEVER want to see it made into a movie, but my all time favorite video game is MediEvil with the skeleton Sir Daniel Fortesque as the the protagonist. But beyond that, I swear there are too many for me to name. I love video games. And... just so you all know... I AM the undisputed champion of Galaga! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Sat, 12/6/08, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Roll Call: Name Your Favorite Games To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 12:38 AM Aubrey and Adrianne's post reminded me that hamers tend to stay hidden on this list. Let's change that Why don't you guys come out of hiding. Please declare your favorites, the ones you would like to see be made into movies and those you hate. Also, tell us why. Thanks Tracey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Happy Place *raises hand* World of Warcraft here. :D :D Oh yeah, and now that I have a new, sweet machine, gotta reinstall Second Life. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherwood@ hotmail.com wrote: I don't know if there are gamers on this loop... But it's Friday night, I just had a fine dinner, I've got a nice drink, a fire, and the doors open to a nice windy night. The lights are off in the living room, the TV's on, and I have scooted my recliner and ottoman right up to it, and despite the fact that I'm supposed to wait, I am about to crack the seal on the new Prince of Persia while I'm alone. This is a happy moment. Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwo od.com FaceBook * MySpace The People You Know, The Sex They Have ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 Lyrical Press. Inc
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more
Now that you... um... have the motivation... how you gonna make it? I'm looking for an investment! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews gave Bright 5 Stars: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star” . Read the full review at http://ghostwriterreviews.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=608 --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:50 AM Now this is an incentive to earn my first million! -See that guy who looks like a cross between Elvis and George Clinton? He is Johnny Ross.- From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie --- On Wed, 12/3/08, space [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: From: space [EMAIL PROTECTED] net Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: innerspace, scifi no more To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 5:47 PM A friend had me check out this personal submarines site which was amazing but then I found Poseidon seafloor resort. Right over the top! –enjoy –jeff.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Yo Adrienne (Marion, Aubrey, Grayson and , ofcourse, our Exalted List Goddes
Hey Rave, Thanks for the message. I have a pack of estrogen in my purse. I can provide you with as much as you need as long as no one thinks you're getting your supply from Canada. lol... It's early... I'm working... it's cold... and i've got edits... I am mildy disoriented but that's no sweat. I live in Pinellas county. The average age is 65... and more often than not, someone on the news has been found wandering the streets mildly disoriented. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Yo Adrienne (Marion, Aubrey, Grayson and , ofcourse, our Exalted List Goddes To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:43 PM I was cut off! The Subject line should read: Yo Adrienne (Marion, Aubrey, Grayson and, of course, our Exalted List Goddess). ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Lovely to see you ladies participating. Keep it up! We need more estrogen up in this punk! ~rave! http://blackplush. blogspot. com/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discus sion
I'm glad that you like where you are even if it's not the most financially sustainable. I'm also glad that there will be food on the table and presents under the tree! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 5:02 AM Thanks. There is a small but very pleasant upside. I am working as temp for the holiday season at my favorite book store, Book People. If nothing else, the work is pleasant enough and I actually LIKE being there. It's not the most financially sustainable position but at least there will be food on the table and presents under the tree this year. All in all, not so bad considering. B --- On Tue, 12/2/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:15 AM Hey, Bosco, sorry to hear about the loss of your shop and your current economic troubles. As someone who was unemployed for two and a half years during the Reagan Depression of the early eighties, I am hopeful I am high enough up the economic ladder to only get soaked up to the waist this time. ~(no)rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Hey Hey, I've been super busy working two jobs trying to make ends meet since I lost my skate shop back in September. I finally had a day off on Thanksgiving and I caught, Let The Right One In. I could simplify it and say it's Vampire love story that takes place in Sweden but that would not even begin to do it justice. Let The Right One In is a unique and fascinating take on the Vampire. No retarded slick Eurotrash faux sexiness or overly romanticized mellow-dramatic tragic darkness. It's completely different from anything you've ever seen in a Vampire film. It's a little slow for standard American tastes but if you're a fan of well crafted story, I can't recommend this film enough. It's not just a great Vampire film, it's a great film period. I can't think of anything I've enjoyed more in ages. You can find a better and more articulate review here: http://www.austinch ronicle.com/ gyrobase/ Calendar/ Film? Film=oid%3A700912 and the IMDB Listing here: http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1139797/ Bosco --- On Sun, 11/30/08, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:26 PM Many of us seem to take time over the holidays to go to the movies or check out some DVDs. What movies/DVD's did you see over the holidays? Let us know which ones you liked or hated and why. Tracey
Re: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion
I want to see this movie! Everything I've heard about it and the book has been overwhelmingly positive. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:52 AM Hey Hey, I've been super busy working two jobs trying to make ends meet since I lost my skate shop back in September. I finally had a day off on Thanksgiving and I caught, Let The Right One In. I could simplify it and say it's Vampire love story that takes place in Sweden but that would not even begin to do it justice. Let The Right One In is a unique and fascinating take on the Vampire. No retarded slick Eurotrash faux sexiness or overly romanticized mellow-dramatic tragic darkness. It's completely different from anything you've ever seen in a Vampire film. It's a little slow for standard American tastes but if you're a fan of well crafted story, I can't recommend this film enough. It's not just a great Vampire film, it's a great film period. I can't think of anything I've enjoyed more in ages. You can find a better and more articulate review here: http://www.austinch ronicle.com/ gyrobase/ Calendar/ Film?Film= oid%3A700912 and the IMDB Listing here: http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1139797/ Bosco --- On Sun, 11/30/08, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com wrote: From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD’s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:26 PM Many of us seem to take time over the holidays to go to the movies or check out some DVDs. What movies/DVD's did you see over the holidays? Let us know which ones you liked or hated and why. Tracey
Re: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group Discussi
Another one of those movies I keep seeing but passing up. Never fear, Rave
On to the breach dear friends, I'm going to see it! :D
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From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:08 PM
Uh, we are talking about comic book characters, right? As for movies
that surprise me (and, frankly, I was surprised by how well IRON MAN
did what it had to do) I recently saw a movie called THE DEAD GIRL
which surprised, shocked and challenged me on every level - I never
saw anything that was about to happen. It was chocked full of great
actors going balls out(Toni Collette, Giovanni Ribisi, Brittany
Murphy, Mary Beth Hurt, Josh Brolin, Kerry Washington, etc.) and it
made less than twenty thousand dollars at the American box office.
Further, as much as I was challenged and engaged by this movie, I am
afraid that any friend or acquaintance I could recommend it to would
hate me with every fiber in their being for subjecting them to the
grim truth and reality of THE DEAD GIRL. It is decidedly NOT the feel
good movie of the year.
~rave!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, marian_changling md_moore42@ ...
wrote:
1. But what does he do about it? His appreciation is implied, but
never demonstrated. That's why it a boy movie and not a man movie.
He never makes the next step.
2. Yeah, he realizes that making weapons is wrong. In order to
correct his error, he makes more weapons. I realize that within the
construct of the movie, he has little choice. But it is a
construct.
I will agree that they successfully managed to make an arrogant
unlikeable character the center of a story. That is very hard to
do.
People want protagonists to be likable.
Hey look, I don't care for chick-flicks either. I want to be
surprised in a movie. This movie did not surprise me. But it did
what it was supposed to do. Very well. I still wouldn't have paid
$10 to see it.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan
adrianne.brennan@ wrote:
I disagree on two points.
1) He finally wised up--or is starting to, at least--that the
woman
of his
dreams is underneath his nose while he's been playing around with
all of the
bimbos.
2) He realized making weapons and supporting war is wrong, and
started using
his technology to help people instead. Of course, he had to get
kidnapped by
a terrorist group in order for that to happen, but I think it was
a rude
awakening. There's something to be said for that--you can't argue
no
changes happened there.
Yes, he's still arrogant as hell, but he's also got a sequel ahead
of him,
and you can't argue that he's not a flawed, 3D character.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:08 PM, marian_changling
md_moore42@ wrote:
Ah, but I liked the Batman movie. I think that one just gave me
more
emotional involvement. Story-wise, I can't say that there was
much
character development in either. The protagonists' character is
the
same at the end as it was in the beginning.
I'd have to think a minute to give you an action-adventure movie
that
has the lead character grow and change. Manhunter, maybe?
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adrianne.brennan@ wrote:
I loved it, and I'm a thirty-year- old chick. :) Guess it
just
depends on
your tastes.
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Marian Moore md_moore42@
wrote:
My brother-in-law had a copy of Ironman, so I can finally
take it
off my
Netflix list. It was ok. A boy movie, as I suspected.
It was
enjoyable.
Not as much as this year's edition of Batman, but since I
wasn't
familiar
with the comic at all, it had the advantage of novelty.
Marian
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group Discussi
I hav Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group Discussi To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:05 PM I can't say that it is very original ideal. I do recall reading that producers find that women are more likely to accompany their male dates to a movie like Ironman than men are likely to accompany women to a movie classified as a chick-flick. That makes it more economical for producers to make an Ironman; 2 tickets sales to 1 ticket sale. I guess a Sex in the City movie where women go in droves is rare. (point in fact, I skipped that movie myself.) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Hey, Marian, thanks for this! My previous visceral response notwithstanding, I really appreciate this take - boy movie - a perspective I hadn't considered before, obvious though it is. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Marian Moore md_moore42@ wrote: My brother-in-law had a copy of Ironman, so I can finally take it off my Netflix list. It was ok. A boy movie, as I suspected. It was enjoyable. Not as much as this year's edition of Batman, but since I wasn't familiar with the comic at all, it had the advantage of novelty. Marian http://makeda42. livejournal. com/
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That last message of mine was cut off... I was gonna go on about how I had *not* seen Sex and the City... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group Discussi To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:13 PM I have Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marian_changling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re:What movies/DVDs did you see over the holiday - Group Discussi To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:05 PM I can't say that it is very original ideal. I do recall reading that producers find that women are more likely to accompany their male dates to a movie like Ironman than men are likely to accompany women to a movie classified as a chick-flick. That makes it more economical for producers to make an Ironman; 2 tickets sales to 1 ticket sale. I guess a Sex in the City movie where women go in droves is rare. (point in fact, I skipped that movie myself.) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Hey, Marian, thanks for this! My previous visceral response notwithstanding, I really appreciate this take - boy movie - a perspective I hadn't considered before, obvious though it is. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Marian Moore md_moore42@ wrote: My brother-in-law had a copy of Ironman, so I can finally take it off my Netflix list. It was ok. A boy movie, as I suspected. It was enjoyable. Not as much as this year's edition of Batman, but since I wasn't familiar with the comic at all, it had the advantage of novelty. Marian http://makeda42. livejournal. com/
[scifinoir2] What movies/DVD?s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion
This weekend I watched Trans-Siberian which I kept seeing at the video store and kept passing up. It wasn't what I expected, if I expected anything. It started slow, especially with Ben Kingsley showing up at the beginning then not again until an hour into the movie. It wasn't my favorite, but I didn't hate it. I watched Clone Wars again... eh. Watched Wall-E. It was cute. Argued with fellow viewers that I was fine with the preachifying because the cruisers were so cute with their nubby digits and big gulps. I also banned both Dario and Asia Argento from my eyes and ears over the weekend. Any fans of Dario? If so... please help me see why. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008
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I enjoyed Wall-E. I don't know about the hype but it was beautfiul and emotionally developed. I don't know about better than the Incredibles but it had some awe inspiring moments, many of them at the very beginning of the film. I also really enjoyed Kung Fu Panda. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD?s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 3:53 PM I've heard people wax ecstatic over Wall-E. Is it as good as all that? I've heard it's even better than The Incredibles , which I loved. True? I'm looking forward to revisiting Kung Fu Panda again. Caught me off guard by how good it was. Really impressive visuals, colors, and fight scenes, and the humour of Jack Black is right on target. Made the movie a lot more enjoyable, as I was expecting more kiddie fare. -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com This weekend I watched Trans-Siberian which I kept seeing at the video store and kept passing up. It wasn't what I expected, if I expected anything. It started slow, especially with Ben Kingsley showing up at the beginning then not again until an hour into the movie. It wasn't my favorite, but I didn't hate it. I watched Clone Wars again... eh. Watched Wall-E. It was cute. Argued with fellow viewers that I was fine with the preachifying because the cruisers were so cute with their nubby digits and big gulps. I also banned both Dario and Asia Argento from my eyes and ears over the weekend. Any fans of Dario? If so... please help me see why. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008
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I haven't seen it yet, but you can be assured I will see it as soon as it's out on DVD. I didn't see The Dark Knight in the theaters because, to be honest, I was worried about the Joker. I knew the take on it was dark, and I'm fine with dark, but the Joker has always had a special villain place in my heart. I mean I'm very fascinated by the Joker character. When I saw the trailers and ads, I got the impression that the Ledger Joker was all dark and without the intricate and subtle (not in action but in meaning) comedy and mania that infused his crimes. I've been assured and reassured that that has not been lost in the characterization... We shall see... is it out tomorrow? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD?s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:37 PM I'll probably rent it on pay-per-view, and if i love it, buy it next year. I'm most excited about buying The Dark Knight DVD when it drops next week -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com I enjoyed Wall-E. I don't know about the hype but it was beautfiul and emotionally developed. I don't know about better than the Incredibles but it had some awe inspiring moments, many of them at the very beginning of the film. I also really enjoyed Kung Fu Panda. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 12/1/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What movies/DVD?s did you see over the holiday - Group Discussion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 3:53 PM I've heard people wax ecstatic over Wall-E. Is it as good as all that? I've heard it's even better than The Incredibles , which I loved. True? I'm looking forward to revisiting Kung Fu Panda again. Caught me off guard by how good it was. Really impressive visuals, colors, and fight scenes, and the humour of Jack Black is right on target. Made the movie a lot more enjoyable, as I was expecting more kiddie fare. -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com This weekend I watched Trans-Siberian which I kept seeing at the video store and kept passing up. It wasn't what I expected, if I expected anything. It started slow, especially with Ben Kingsley showing up at the beginning then not again until an hour into the movie. It wasn't my favorite, but I didn't hate it. I watched Clone Wars again... eh. Watched Wall-E. It was cute. Argued with fellow viewers that I was fine with the preachifying because the cruisers were so cute with their nubby digits and big gulps. I also banned both Dario and Asia Argento from my eyes and ears over the weekend. Any fans of Dario? If so... please help me see why. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament
Thank you, Martin! Yeah, I'm solid on writing what I want to write, to post or not to post was the question, and you helped me with that! OK so I'm curious. You don't commit your work to .doc but you do have it in some format that allows folks to make judgments regarding it's hyper-violent-at-times nature? Hmmm. so does that mean your pieces are in posts somewhere in the cyber nebulous? On a side note... I'm studying violence in my own work. By nature, I'm not a violent person and not into torture porn to use a phrase I've seen a lot of lately, but my latest novel required violence, most of it directed at the female main character and, strangely enough, most of it brought on by herself. It's odd, horrific, eerie, disturbing, and I couldn't be happier that the story came out of me... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Author of LPI's Mainstream Bestseller Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicanment To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1:44 PM Grayson, at the end of the day, we can only write what's inside of ourselves. To a degree, *all* of the stories I'm working on are of the men-are-idiots-in-some-way vein, and the content, as you would know if I could find the time to commit my work to a doc so that you could read it, is of the hyper-violent-at-times variety, which has landed me in something of a conundrum in a non-writing group I post at daily. (Another user is virulently misogynistic in almost all of his posts, something I call him out on, but several female users don't see it that way at all, which has made me look at myself with a critical eye regarding how my words might come across.) That brought me neatly around to my initial statement. Write. Post. Let the masses be judges, but not *the* judge.
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament
Sheer intimidation, lol! I like it. Although, I woke up in the middle of the night (it's a usual thing) and what's on television but SuperJail. Has anyone seen this. The animation is gross in my opinion and not to my liking Another concept I totally dig executed by it's uh execution. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 5:34 PM More than welcome, Grayson! And no, my work isn't posted anywhere online. I considered posting at one website, but time said otherwise. (The story of my life... :-( ) Keith and Astro here have read some of it, along with about seven other friends of mine. In this story, my character used to deal with violence in the same way that a pre-teen kid might, with an almost-gleeful abandon. A set piece in it, which I ahve yet to fully explore, involves what's called the Death Register, when only the most exceptionally brutal-yet-imaginitive deaths are recorded for posterity.. One example I can give - one character is in the Register for convincing 150+ people to airlock themselves, as opposed to fighting him. He got the write-up for sheer intimidation. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament Date : Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:09:31 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Thank you, Martin! Yeah, I'm solid on writing what I want to write, to post or not to post was the question, and you helped me with that! OK so I'm curious. You don't commit your work to .doc but you do have it in some format that allows folks to make judgments regarding it's hyper-violent-at-times nature? Hmmm. so does that mean your pieces are in posts somewhere in the cyber nebulous? On a side note... I'm studying violence in my own work. By nature, I'm not a violent person and not into torture porn to use a phrase I've seen a lot of lately, but my latest novel required violence, most of it directed at the female main character and, strangely enough, most of it brought on by herself. It's odd, horrific, eerie, disturbing, and I couldn't be happier that the story came out of me... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Author of LPI's Mainstream Bestseller Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicanment To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1:44 PM Grayson, at the end of the day, we can only write what's inside of ourselves. To a degree, *all* of the stories I'm working on are of the men-are-idiots-in-some-way vein, and the content, as you would know if I could find the time to commit my work to a doc so that you could read it, is of the hyper-violent-at-times variety, which has landed me in something of a conundrum in a non-writing group I post at daily. (Another user is virulently misogynistic in almost all of his posts, something I call him out on, but several female users don't see it that way at all, which has made me look at myself with a critical eye regarding how my words might come across.) That brought me neatly around to my initial statement. Write. Post. Let the masses be judges, but not *the* judge.
Re: [scifinoir2] Bite Club: a short refresher on vampire lore
Has anyone seen last week's South Park episode where Butters goes vamp and no one can tell the vamp kids from the goth kids? Genius. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Bite Club: a short refresher on vampire lore To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:23 PM www.chicagotribune. com/features/ lifestyle/ chi-vampire- rules- 1124nov24,0, 6349216.story chicagotribune. com A short refresher course on vampire lore Every generation reinvents the vampire, bending the rules and regulations that govern these sexy bloodsuckers. Below, a primer on vamp mythology and how it has changed, from 1897 to last weekend. By Robert K. Elder, Maureen Ryan, Kevin Pang and Lilah Lohr November 24, 2008 Vintage Dracula Dracula, by Bram Stoker (book and movies) Origin: The heartsick count in Stoker's 1897 novel, perhaps inspired by the 15th Century Vlad Dracula of Wallachia, also known as Vlad the Impaler. The vampire creature is inspired by tradition but previously written about in 1819's The Vampyre, a short story by John Polidori. Powers: Super strength, speed and sexy, sexy, sexy; the ability to change form (bats, bugs and a wolf) Weaknesses: Sunlight, garlic, crucifixes, holy water, wooden stake to the heart, women Count Chocula Cereal spokesvampire Origin: Introduced in 1971 by General Mills as a Chocolatey Cereal with Spooky-Fun Marshmallows Powers: Providing 35 percent of your recommended daily riboflavin intake Weaknesses: Boo Berry; lactose intolerant Count von Count (a.k.a. The Count) Sesame Street Origin: Created in 1972 for Sesame Street; hosts Number of the Day segment. Powers: Spontaneously creating thunderclaps with a single Ah ha ha ha ha! Weaknesses: #9632; Blacula Blacula, starring William Marshall (movie, 1972) Origin: African vampire prince Mamuwalde is imprisoned by Count Dracula, only to be released in Los Angeles in 1972. Powers: Awesome tagline: His bite was outta sight. Weaknesses: Pam Grier, who in the 1973 sequel Scream Blacula Scream, stabs a voodoo doll, killing Blacula Lestat, Louis and Akasha The Vampire Chronicles, by Anne Rice (book and movie) Origin: In Rice's mythology (begun with Interview With the Vampire in 1976), vampires originate from an Egyptian queen who is cursed with a bloodthirsty spirit. Powers: Super strength, speed, telekinesis and flight. Older vamps can set things ablaze at will, can read thoughts and cloud human minds. Weaknesses: Sunlight, fire, unable to have children; immortal malaise. Angel Buffy the Vampire Slayer by Joss Whedon (movie, TV show, comics) Origin: Once a soulless vampire, Angel (introduced in 1997) was cursed by a gypsy to regain his soul—and thus carry the guilt of his deeds. Powers: Super strength, speed, able to spin off own show Weaknesses: Sunlight, wooden stakes, crucifixes, holy water and Sarah Michelle Gellar Dracula Dracula 2000, produced by Wes Craven (movie) Origin: The first vampire is actually the biblical Judas. His punishment for betraying Jesus: immortality and insatiable hunger. Powers: Super strength, speed, ability to disappear from box office Weaknesses: Sunlight, silver, Christian iconography, fire Edward Cullen Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer (2005 book and 2008 movie) Origin: Cullen was born in Chicago in 1901, and turned by a senior vampire when Cullen nearly died in the 1918 influenza pandemic. Powers: Super strength, speed, telepathy; marblelike, cold, hard skin; fwoopy hair. Weaknesses: Dismemberment, fire; direct sunlight makes skin glittery, the piercing screams of 7th-grade girls. —Robert K. Elder, Maureen Ryan, Kevin Pang, Lilah Lohr Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune
Re: [scifinoir2] Bite Club: a short refresher on vampire lore
My mom called me cracking up! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Bite Club: a short refresher on vampire lore To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:29 PM Not yet. I'm going to have to watch it with my dad when I see him for Thanksgiving, lol ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone seen last week's South Park episode where Butters goes vamp and no one can tell the vamp kids from the goth kids? Genius. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [scifinoir2] Bite Club: a short refresher on vampire lore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:23 PM www.chicagotribune. com/features/ lifestyle/ chi-vampire- rules- 1124nov24,0, 6349216.story chicagotribune. com A short refresher course on vampire lore Every generation reinvents the vampire, bending the rules and regulations that govern these sexy bloodsuckers. Below, a primer on vamp mythology and how it has changed, from 1897 to last weekend. By Robert K. Elder, Maureen Ryan, Kevin Pang and Lilah Lohr November 24, 2008 Vintage Dracula Dracula, by Bram Stoker (book and movies) Origin: The heartsick count in Stoker's 1897 novel, perhaps inspired by the 15th Century Vlad Dracula of Wallachia, also known as Vlad the Impaler. The vampire creature is inspired by tradition but previously written about in 1819's The Vampyre, a short story by John Polidori. Powers: Super strength, speed and sexy, sexy, sexy; the ability to change form (bats, bugs and a wolf) Weaknesses: Sunlight, garlic, crucifixes, holy water, wooden stake to the heart, women Count Chocula Cereal spokesvampire Origin: Introduced in 1971 by General Mills as a Chocolatey Cereal with Spooky-Fun Marshmallows Powers: Providing 35 percent of your recommended daily riboflavin intake Weaknesses: Boo Berry; lactose intolerant Count von Count (a.k.a. The Count) Sesame Street Origin: Created in 1972 for Sesame Street; hosts Number of the Day segment. Powers: Spontaneously creating thunderclaps with a single Ah ha ha ha ha! Weaknesses: #9632; Blacula Blacula, starring William Marshall (movie, 1972) Origin: African vampire prince Mamuwalde is imprisoned by Count Dracula, only to be released in Los Angeles in 1972. Powers: Awesome tagline: His bite was outta sight. Weaknesses: Pam Grier, who in the 1973 sequel Scream Blacula Scream, stabs a voodoo doll, killing Blacula Lestat, Louis and Akasha The Vampire Chronicles, by Anne Rice (book and movie) Origin: In Rice's mythology (begun with Interview With the Vampire in 1976), vampires originate from an Egyptian queen who is cursed with a bloodthirsty spirit. Powers: Super strength, speed, telekinesis and flight. Older vamps can set things ablaze at will, can read thoughts and cloud human minds. Weaknesses: Sunlight, fire, unable to have children; immortal malaise. Angel Buffy the Vampire Slayer by Joss Whedon (movie, TV show, comics) Origin: Once a soulless vampire, Angel (introduced in 1997) was cursed by a gypsy to regain his soul—and thus carry the guilt of his deeds. Powers: Super strength, speed, able to spin off own show Weaknesses: Sunlight, wooden stakes, crucifixes, holy water and Sarah Michelle Gellar Dracula Dracula 2000, produced by Wes Craven (movie) Origin: The first vampire is actually the biblical Judas. His punishment for betraying Jesus: immortality and insatiable hunger. Powers: Super strength, speed, ability to disappear from box office Weaknesses: Sunlight, silver, Christian iconography, fire Edward Cullen Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer (2005 book and 2008 movie) Origin: Cullen was born in Chicago in 1901, and turned by a senior vampire when Cullen nearly died in the 1918 influenza pandemic. Powers: Super strength, speed, telepathy; marblelike, cold, hard skin; fwoopy hair. Weaknesses: Dismemberment, fire; direct sunlight makes skin glittery, the piercing screams of 7th-grade girls. —Robert K. Elder, Maureen Ryan, Kevin Pang, Lilah Lohr Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament
Yeah. That show is just wrong. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 11:51 PM Thank you! And I've seen one ep of SuperJail. I think it had transvestites in it. That, or the Zocor I take was doing really odd things to my head. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament Date : Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:38:40 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sheer intimidation, lol! I like it. Although, I woke up in the middle of the night (it's a usual thing) and what's on television but SuperJail. Has anyone seen this. The animation is gross in my opinion and not to my liking. Another concept I totally dig executed by it's uh execution. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 5:34 PM More than welcome, Grayson! And no, my work isn't posted anywhere online. I considered posting at one website, but time said otherwise. (The story of my life... :-( ) Keith and Astro here have read some of it, along with about seven other friends of mine. In this story, my character used to deal with violence in the same way that a pre-teen kid might, with an almost-gleeful abandon. A set piece in it, which I ahve yet to fully explore, involves what's called the Death Register, when only the most exceptionally brutal-yet-imaginitive deaths are recorded for posterity... One example I can give - one character is in the Register for convincing 150+ people to airlock themselves, as opposed to fighting him. He got the write-up for sheer intimidation. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicament Date : Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:09:31 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Thank you, Martin! Yeah, I'm solid on writing what I want to write, to post or not to post was the question, and you helped me with that! OK so I'm curious. You don't commit your work to .doc but you do have it in some format that allows folks to make judgments regarding it's hyper-violent-at-times nature? Hmmm. so does that mean your pieces are in posts somewhere in the cyber nebulous? On a side note... I'm studying violence in my own work. By nature, I'm not a violent person and not into torture porn to use a phrase I've seen a lot of lately, but my latest novel required violence, most of it directed at the female main character and, strangely enough, most of it brought on by herself. It's odd, horrific, eerie, disturbing, and I couldn't be happier that the story came out of me... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Author of LPI's Mainstream Bestseller Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicanment To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1:44 PM Grayson, at the end of the day, we can only write what's inside of ourselves. To a degree, *all* of the stories I'm working on are of the men-are-idiots-in-some-way vein, and the content, as you would know if I could find the time to commit my work to a doc so that you could read it, is of the hyper-violent-at-times variety, which has landed me in something of a conundrum in a non-writing group I post at daily. (Another user is virulently misogynistic in almost all of his posts, something I call him out on, but several female users don't see it that way at all, which has made me look at myself with a critical eye regarding how my words might come across.) That brought me neatly around to my initial statement. Write. Post. Let the masses be judges, but not *the* judge.
[scifinoir2] Grayson's Predicanment
Hi All, So I find myself in a predicament. On Halloween, I was involved in an author chat, when one thing led to another, and a new WIP was born. WIPs are good, right? Well this one is dark, paranormal, and quite certainly headed in the direction of a complicated romance. I'm enjoying writing it and added it to an author blog I belong to so I could complete it in installments of 500-800 words and not interfere with everything else I have going on. Anyway, here's my predicament. 1) The story is shaping up to be a vampire theme. Agh! There's nothing at all wrong with vampire themes but they seem to be cropping up everywhere these days (if you watched south park this week, you know from whence i speak). I think the story will probably be unique but I keep wanting to scrap it and start all over because the theme seems to be everywhere. I know some publishing houses are not accepting vampire stories right now because they are inundated with them. Throw in Twilight and TruBlood and really, vamps are everywhere. On the other side of it, the story's not for sale... It's a free read on a blog... *sigh* should I care? Would this bother any of you? Second issue: I love men. There, I've said it. Not just in a that's who I'm attracted to kind of way, but in the sense that I have a healthy respect for them as well. I'm an equal rights kind of lady, but the story so far has been unkind to the male race of this species I'm writing about. I'm not a man-hater, but I'm wondering if the story comes off that way. The men have a history of leaving their wives even when it could mean death for the abandoned bride. The featured female's story begins when her husband of 13 days leaves her and disappears into a parallel universe of sorts. I probably would not change my story because it is what it is... but I'm questioning whether I should be bothered by it or not. Whether it should be a free read offering of mine or not. At the end of the day, I'm going to write whatever comes out of my head, but I'm still confounded by this story. Thoughts? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Mainstream Bestseller Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid...
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux)
Ahem... I liked it, too for all those reasons. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Wed, 11/19/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] National Treasure (Part Deux) To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:02 PM I fell asleep at 9 pm yesterday and woke up at 3 am. Wide awake in the middle of the night I decided to channel surf the plethora of movie channels at my disposal since my upgrade to ATT U-Verse. I stumbled upon the last segment of THE DEAD GIRL which features Brittany Murphy (as the titular heroine), Josh Brolin and Kerry Washington. All three of them are amazing. I immediately set my DVR to capture the next showing of THE DEAD GIRL so I can see the whole movie. Then I caught the beginning of NATIONAL TREASURE:THE BOOK OF SECRETS. Due to devastating reviews from critics I respect, I had assidiously avoided watching either of the NATIONAL TREASURE movies but I was pleasantly surprised by BOOK OF SECRETS. For one thing, it really moves. I saw THE DIVICI CODE, and I enjoyed it, but DIVICI is decidedly pokey compared to SECRETS. I like smart people making smart conversation and SECRETS is chocked full of them. I liked the breezy arguments and the arcane points of contention. Heck, I like Nicolas Cage. Further, I love history, puzzles, anagrams, codes, hieroglypics, and ancient languages and lost civilizations. I like when great actors slum and five of my favorites - Helen Mirren, Ed Harris, Harvey Keitel and Jon Voight - cavort marvelously (shamelessly? )in this movie. Lastly, I enjoyed the pure out-sized audacity of SECRETS: breaking into, successively, the Queen's quarters at Buckingham Palace, the oval office, a secret archive at the Library of Congress AND temporarily kidnapping the President of the United States. Not to mention, the denouement at Mount Rushmore. I mean, that is something right out of Marvel's MASTER OF KUNG FU, vol. 1, issue 22 (penciled by the great Paul Galacy). Sure, you have to suspend belief and, for a guy trying to restore his family's honor, Ed Harris' character is, inexplicably, the ruthless head of a vicious criminal enterprise, but I have spent worse two hour blocks in front of a television. ~rave!
RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Don#39;t See SAW
LOL, Martin... I'm just sayin', I'm marginalized, hee hee. I loved that show. I just started watching it again on Netflix... Unfortunately, they aren't listed in order (had to hunt down a list) and not all episodes are there mysterious. Still awesome. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Don#39;t See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:17 PM PS American Gothic was awesome tv for the five minutes it lasted. Go ahead, say it wasn't, you know you want to. Now, Grayson... WHY would I deny the truth? ;- -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:17:30 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Dude. :) He doesn't come back to life, his legacy lives on. I like the idea of a person brilliant enough to plan out events far beyond their death. It's far fetched for sure and suffers in the execution but I enjoy the idea. However, I'm quite content to be the only person on the viewership island I live on. --Grayson PS American Gothic was awesome tv for the five minutes it lasted. Go ahead, say it wasn't, you know you want to. Said Kakese Dibinga wrote: Uhm, he died right? Laid on a table, chest peeled open? This is why I stopped reading comic books, colossus comes back, Gwen Stacy comes back, the Osborne come back,,, I'm done Said Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General The Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 O: 1.323.603.8380 EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com IM (Yahoo):skdibinga
Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW
Speakin' of that great clone fiasco... um... why did they decide to throw that into the mix on Heroes... I mean really... they put it in this did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:09 PM Ah... The Great Clone Fiasco. Surprisingly, no grand mal seizures to accompany them. Were the people responsible for that put up against the wall and pelted with soaked copies of those issues? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:15 -0500 From : Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com They didn't. There was one annual where her clone came back (but it got better), and that... odd sequence where her illegitimate children with Norman Osborne returned to bedevil Spider-man. She's still cold in the ground. Justin On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:42 AM, ravenadal wrote: Wait! Hold the phone! I stopped reading and buying SPIDER-MAN in the early eighties, but I watched the Green Goblin send Gwen Stacy to her death in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #121 (June 1973) - she snapped her neck in a fatal fall. HOW THE HECK DID THEY BRING HER BACK ~rave! -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW
OMG Martin Sink me, I LOVE IT. God I haven't heard that in a long time. Awesome... ok what were you saying? You lost me after you took me back some years. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 10:54 PM Grayson, to paraphrase Sir Percy Blakeney, Sink me if I know! I remember when all of that crap was flying through the air, trying to sort out who was the original Peter Parker, hoping that it would all turn out to be a Pam Ewing-type dream, being deeply disappointed to wake up with it all still sitting on my desk. I stopped buying Spiderman after the end of that run, only bought one Spidey book since, the one in which Aunt May learned his identity. Also, I don't normally get rid of comics after I buy them. I did with every issue of Spiderman I owned. Took a 60% loss in the deal. Ask me if I care. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:48:25 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Speakin' of that great clone fiasco... um... why did they decide to throw that into the mix on Heroes... I mean really... they put it in this did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:09 PM Ah... The Great Clone Fiasco. Surprisingly, no grand mal seizures to accompany them. Were the people responsible for that put up against the wall and pelted with soaked copies of those issues? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:15 -0500 From : Justin Mohareb To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com They didn't. There was one annual where her clone came back (but it got better), and that... odd sequence where her illegitimate children with Norman Osborne returned to bedevil Spider-man. She's still cold in the ground. Justin On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:42 AM, ravenadal wrote: Wait! Hold the phone! I stopped reading and buying SPIDER-MAN in the early eighties, but I watched the Green Goblin send Gwen Stacy to her death in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #121 (June 1973) - she snapped her neck in a fatal fall. HOW THE HECK DID THEY BRING HER BACK ~rave! -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW
I feel you on getting rid of the issues. I hardly ever part with books even if I dislike them, but a few times I've gotten really angry at what the author did with the story (especially if the author is a good writer that sucks me in for the okeydoke) when trying to untie the ever-present knot. I give you Anne Rice. I've read a ton of her books, but I swear I burned one on the grill once. (Have I mentioned that I am the Queen of Grill? Actually, it transcends gender, I am the Emperor of the Grill... did ribs tonight (sorry non-pork eaters) and they are superb) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 10:54 PM Grayson, to paraphrase Sir Percy Blakeney, Sink me if I know! I remember when all of that crap was flying through the air, trying to sort out who was the original Peter Parker, hoping that it would all turn out to be a Pam Ewing-type dream, being deeply disappointed to wake up with it all still sitting on my desk. I stopped buying Spiderman after the end of that run, only bought one Spidey book since, the one in which Aunt May learned his identity. Also, I don't normally get rid of comics after I buy them. I did with every issue of Spiderman I owned. Took a 60% loss in the deal. Ask me if I care. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:48:25 -0800 (PST) From : Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Speakin' of that great clone fiasco... um... why did they decide to throw that into the mix on Heroes... I mean really... they put it in this did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:09 PM Ah... The Great Clone Fiasco. Surprisingly, no grand mal seizures to accompany them. Were the people responsible for that put up against the wall and pelted with soaked copies of those issues? -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re:Don't See SAW Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:15 -0500 From : Justin Mohareb To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com They didn't. There was one annual where her clone came back (but it got better), and that... odd sequence where her illegitimate children with Norman Osborne returned to bedevil Spider-man. She's still cold in the ground. Justin On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:42 AM, ravenadal wrote: Wait! Hold the phone! I stopped reading and buying SPIDER-MAN in the early eighties, but I watched the Green Goblin send Gwen Stacy to her death in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #121 (June 1973) - she snapped her neck in a fatal fall. HOW THE HECK DID THEY BRING HER BACK ~rave! -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Ratings: 'True Blood' Keeps Extending Its Fangs
Oh no, America says I got it wrong! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/17/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Ratings: 'True Blood' Keeps Extending Its Fangs To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 8:38 PM HBO drama continues to grow viewership as season goes on By Alex Weprin -- Broadcasting Cable, 11/4/2008 2:59:00 AM HBO vampire drama True Blood continues to scare up new viewers. Sunday's episode drew 2.35 million according to live plus same day data, a 63% increase over the season premiere, which drew 1.44 million. When replays, DVR and HBO On Demand are taken into consideration, True Blood is averaging a gross audience of 6.4 million viewers.
Re: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW
Ohhh Rave... lol Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/18/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Don't See SAW To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 2:27 AM The good news is SAW V has stalled at $81 million (SAW IV made $139 million). The bad news is Tobin Bell, who plays the diabolically ethical villain Jigsaw - who, incidentally DIED at the end of SAW III - has been signed to star in FIVE more SAW movies. ~(no)rave!
RE: [scifinoir2] Re:Don#39;t See SAW
Dude. :) He doesn#39;t come back to life, his legacy lives on. I like the idea of a person brilliant enough to plan out events far beyond their death. It#39;s far fetched for sure and suffers in the execution but I enjoy the idea. However, I#39;m quite content to be the only person on the viewership island I live on. --Grayson PS American Gothic was awesome tv for the five minutes it lasted. Go ahead, say it wasn#39;t, you know you want to. Said Kakese Dibinga wrote: Uhm, he died right? Laid on a table, chest peeled open? This is why I stopped reading comic books, colossus comes back, Gwen Stacy comes back, the Osborne come back,,, I'm done Said Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General The Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 O: 1.323.603.8380 EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com IM (Yahoo):skdibinga
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
I'm going to get smacked around for this I know... (hey adrianne, my iwofa pal, how you doin'?) but I stopped watching TruBlood two episodes ago. I was hooked and then I was unhooked. Still love Lafayette but just can't do it anymore. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:55 PM Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me? ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine! ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that I've been able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is NOT done by Joss Wheden, lol. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence, macabre humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further, Lafayette Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie-erotic character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little from THE WIRE. ~rave! Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show and that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement. He's not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl to have a car accident. This is what I found A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes http://www.imdb. com/name/ nm405/ (In Treatment http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a local meddler named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four episodes and that she will become as series regular - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
probably before... the last episode i watched was the one where sam woke up
naked at the foot of sookie's bed like a doggy. jason wanted to marry the chick
that had him bleeding a vampire, tara got money to exorcise her demon, and the
vamps used sookie to help them catch a thief. pfft.
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--- On Sun, 11/16/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in
True Blood
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:17 PM
Did you disengage before or after the shaft-shifter episode?
~rave!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole
grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote:
I'm going to get smacked around for this I know... (hey adrianne, my
iwofa pal, how you doin'?) but I stopped watching TruBlood two
episodes ago. I was hooked and then I was unhooked. Still love
Lafayette but just can't do it anymore.
Grayson Reyes-Cole
http://www.graysonr eyescole. com
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--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote:
From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ...
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar)
to appear in True Blood
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:55 PM
Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has
totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more
interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me?
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne
brennan.com/ bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine!
~rave!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan
adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote:
I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that
I've been
able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is
NOT
done by
Joss Wheden, lol.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal ravenadal@ . wrote:
I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence,
macabre
humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further,
Lafayette
Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie-
erotic
character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little
from
THE
WIRE.
~rave!
Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show
and
that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement.
He's
not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella
tdlists@
wrote:
No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl
to
have a car
accident. This is what I found
A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes
http://www.imdb. com/name/ nm405/ (In Treatment
http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a
local
meddler
named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four
episodes
and that
she will become as series regular
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
I love offbeat, I love odd, I adore jarring, and I write dark fantasy and horror, so twisted and aggressive are ok by me. I also don't mind the sex.My issue isn't with any of that stuff, my problem is that every character on the show at this point, in my opinion (and only my opinion! again not judging those who enjoy the show), except Lafayette seems to have gone incredibly stoopid! Stoopid McDummyton. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:24 PM Hey Grayson! No smacking from me. People either REALLY love the show right now or really hate it--it's not to everyone's taste. I'm used to watching weird, offbeat, and sometimes jarring stuff, so it doesn't bother me. The combination of the erotic and the horror is a tough one to pull off, and the series definitely goes more into horror than most vampire shows do. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: I'm going to get smacked around for this I know... (hey adrianne, my iwofa pal, how you doin'?) but I stopped watching TruBlood two episodes ago. I was hooked and then I was unhooked. Still love Lafayette but just can't do it anymore. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:55 PM Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me? ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine! ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that I've been able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is NOT done by Joss Wheden, lol. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence, macabre humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further, Lafayette Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie-erotic character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little from THE WIRE. ~rave! Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show and that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement. He's not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl to have a car accident. This is what I found A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes http://www.imdb. com/name/ nm405/ (In Treatment http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a local meddler named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four episodes and that she will become as series regular - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
Yep. Oh, don't get me wrong, I was curious about the Sam thing... but it didn't outweigh my frustation with so many other parts of it. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:30 PM You watched the episode where Sookie woke up with Sam naked at the foot of her bed and you QUIT? Man, I couldn't WAIT to see the next episode! ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: probably before... the last episode i watched was the one where sam woke up naked at the foot of sookie's bed like a doggy. jason wanted to marry the chick that had him bleeding a vampire, tara got money to exorcise her demon, and the vamps used sookie to help them catch a thief. pfft. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:17 PM Did you disengage before or after the shaft-shifter episode? ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: I'm going to get smacked around for this I know... (hey adrianne, my iwofa pal, how you doin'?) but I stopped watching TruBlood two episodes ago. I was hooked and then I was unhooked. Still love Lafayette but just can't do it anymore. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:55 PM Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me? ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine! ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that I've been able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is NOT done by Joss Wheden, lol. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal ravenadal@ . wrote: I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence, macabre humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further, Lafayette Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie- erotic character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little from THE WIRE. ~rave! Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show and that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement. He's not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl to have a car accident. This is what I found A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes http://www.imdb. com/name/ nm405/ (In Treatment http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a local meddler named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four episodes and that she will become as series regular - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
That's what my mama said. She's still watching it and convinced it's her duty
to fill me in every Sunday night after it goes off.
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Lyrical Press October 2008
--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in
True Blood
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:24 PM
Heh! You missed what happened with Tara and the exorcist woman. VERY
gratifying.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/
bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adrianne
brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@
yahoo.com wrote:
probably before... the last episode i watched was the one where sam woke up
naked at the foot of sookie's bed like a doggy. jason wanted to marry the chick
that had him bleeding a vampire, tara got money to exorcise her demon, and the
vamps used sookie to help them catch a thief. pfft.
Grayson Reyes-Cole
http://www.graysonr eyescole. com
Facebook
Bright Star
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Lyrical Press October 2008
--- On Sun, 11/16/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in
True Blood
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 8:17 PM
Did you disengage before or after the shaft-shifter episode?
~rave!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole
grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote:
I'm going to get smacked around for this I know... (hey adrianne, my
iwofa pal, how you doin'?) but I stopped watching TruBlood two
episodes ago. I was hooked and then I was unhooked. Still love
Lafayette but just can't do it anymore.
Grayson Reyes-Cole
http://www.graysonr eyescole. com
Facebook
Bright Star
When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be
paid...
Lyrical Press October 2008
--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote:
From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ...
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar)
to appear in True Blood
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:55 PM
Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has
totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more
interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me?
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne
brennan.com/ bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine!
~rave!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Adrianne Brennan
adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote:
I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that
I've been
able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is
NOT
done by
Joss Wheden, lol.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2:
http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal ravenadal@ . wrote:
I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence,
macabre
humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further,
Lafayette
Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie-
erotic
character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little
from
THE
WIRE.
~rave!
Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show
and
that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement.
He's
not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Tracey de Morsella
tdlists@
wrote:
No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl
to
have a car
accident. This is what I found
A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes
http://www.imdb. com/name/ nm405/ (In Treatment
http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a
local
meddler
named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four
episodes
and that
she will become as series regular
- - --
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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Life gets a full season
Life and Chuck are tied for my favorite show on NBC... After that, it's 30 Rock, then I'm done with the network. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Life gets a full season To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 2:08 AM Life is my favorite show on NBC. And yes, I understand that Heroes is on NBC. The episode Did You Feel That? is one of the best hours of TV I have watched in a long time. This is great news. On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Round for the house, on me. It may not be a spectacular hit, but it's still head-and-shoulders above most of what's running now (not mentioning The Show About A Car and His Man). -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Life gets a full season Date : Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:28:44 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Life Continues NBC series gets a full season. by Eric Goldman November 10, 2008 - NBC has picked up the back nine episodes for Season 2 of Life , meaning the police drama will get a full 22-episode season. While Life has decent reviews and some loyal fans, it's not exactly a notable hit in the ratings. However, its pickup comes at a time when the vast majority of first and second year series are struggling in the ratings, and on NBC in particular, meaning more leniency is being given to shows that seem to have even a hint at growing their audience. That means that the good news for fans is that a show like Life is being given more of a chance to build an audience than it might have in the midst of a stronger overall schedule, where it likely would have been dropped sooner. Life's pickup follows on the heels of NBC also giving a full season to their new version of Knight Rider. NBC's Chuck , which debuted fall 2008 - at the same time as Life -- was given a full 22-episode order before the fall TV Season began.
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Be a fugitive slave for a night in Escape on the Undergro und Railroad
Um yeah... me too. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Be a fugitive slave for a night in Escape on the Undergro und Railroad To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Curtis, Jr.' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Albert Fields' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], CINQUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Cleo' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Kai Pettaway' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Kera' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Michael Gordon' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Seku Brathwaite' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Valery Jean' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Wendell Theophilus Smith' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Whitney J Evans' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 10:53 PM Call me crazy, but I'm gonna pass on this. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Be_a_fugitive_slave_for_a_night_in_Escape_on_the_Undergro und_Railroad Date : Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:21 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],'Curtis, Jr.' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],'Albert Fields' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],CINQUE [EMAIL PROTECTED],'Cleo' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],'Kai Pettaway' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],'Kera' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],'Michael Gordon' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],'Seku Brathwaite' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Valery Jean' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Wendell Theophilus Smith' [EMAIL PROTECTED],'Whitney J Evans' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a fugitive slave for a night in Escape on the Underground Railroad Cleveland offers the historically curious a sample of the heart-pounding panic, anger, and tears of escaped slaves making their way to freedom in Canada http://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/2008/11/04/be-a-fugitive-slave-for-a -night-in-%E2%80%9Cescape-on-the-underground-railroad%E2%80%9D/ By Wendy +slave+for+a+night+in+%22Escape+on+the+Underground+Railroad%22+%7C+csmonitor ..comamp;expire=amp;urlID=32196019amp;fb=Yamp;url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeatures.csmonitor.com%2Fb ackstory%2F2008%2F11%2F04%2Fbe-a-fugitive-slave-for-a-night-in-%25E2%2580%25 9Cescape-on-the-underground-railroad%25E2%2580%259D%2Famp;partnerID=410209 A. Hoke | Correspondent / November 4, 2008 edition http://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/wp-content/assets/15/145/vertical1.j pg William Rieter/Special to The Christian Science Monitor Going back to the 1850s: Sherrie Tolliver (right) gets into character as Lissie, an Underground Railroad conductor in Cleveland's reeanactment program. _ Cleveland All is quiet in this wooded valley - for now. Autumn's sweetness is in the air as water rushes over rocks in Tinker's Creek and a golden sun sets trees aglow in the Cleveland Metroparks Bedford Reservation. But gathered in the picnic shelter on this early October evening is a cast of volunteers set to recreate a world as far from peace and tranquility as possible. Escape on the Underground Railroad, a recreation of a run for freedom that uses volunteer actors to help put participants in the shoes of runaway slaves, is set to begin. There will be panic - chases with howling hounds and heart-pounding dashes for cover in the dark; anger -- slaves thrown to the ground and humiliated; sorrow - real tears shed. And there will be a tangible connection made to the history of this area, a stopping point on the secret route of abolitionist safe houses used by escaped slaves on their way to Canada in the 1850s. This is the final night of the Garfield Park Nature Center's 12th season of reenactments and will be for adults only. Park manager Carl Casavecchia reminds the crew of this and asks them to turn up the intensity. As the crew sorts props, gathers long skirts together with safety pins, and counts kerosene lanterns, Mr. Casavecchia has more reminders: The effigy is hanging in the tree, don't put the slaves under the lit torches, and if someone gets hurt, the code phrase the cast should use is Moses is going to Canaan. Then the crew disperses into the woods to get in place before the 60 participants - men and women, white and African American - arrive to take the roles of slaves in 1852. Ohio was always a free state, but following passage of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850, escaped slaves could be captured anywhere in the US. So on this night, the slaves were Canada-bound. Whether the uUncerground Railroad went through
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
Oh no. I mean she's gorgeous in my opinion... but.. oh no. I love Wonder Woman... don't do this to me. I saw her in that Pink Panther thing, The Fighting Temptations, Dream Girls, Carmen the remake... Austin Powers Goldmember... don't do this to me. Not MY Wonder Woman! On a foot note... I met Etta James... and I don't want that done to me either. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:48 PM http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/entertainme nt/7718580. stm Pop star Beyonce has said she wants to play Wonder Woman in a film of the comic book heroine. The singer has met DC Comics and film studio Warner Bros to express her interest in future superhero roles on the big screen. I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? she told the Los Angeles Times. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right? Wonder Woman, played by Lynda Carter on TV in the 1970s, has never been made into a feature film. Beyonce was nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in Dreamgirls two years ago, and has also had film parts in Austin Powers in Goldmember and The Pink Panther. She will soon be seen playing singer Etta James on the big screen in Cadillac Records, and has a major role in the thriller Obsessed. After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself: 'OK, I need to be a superhero,' Beyonce said. Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy. -- Michael Street, jr streetforce1@ gmail.com http://www.greasygu ide.com Obama 08 - Yes we can http://www.barackob ama.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
I agree 100% with Beyoncé in the Last Dragon. That makes way more sense to me! Who was that? Vanity? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:14 PM Not to have Beyonce play every role but maybe she might be a good pic to play Laura Charles in the Last Dragon remake that's in pre-production now. If not Beyonce then I'd like to see Rihanna in this role.
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
Um, you mean you didn't see Bring It On: For the Last Time Dammit? Nope. She can't act. But she's better than Beyonce in that particular shallow pool of pop tart thespianic talent. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 4:32 AM can Rihanna act? I've never gotten all the buzz on her... -- Original message -- From: Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com Not to have Beyonce play every role but maybe she might be a good pic to play Laura Charles in the Last Dragon remake that's in pre-production now. If not Beyonce then I'd like to see Rihanna in this role.
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
If they made it campy, fine. Could totally live with that. But you know Hollywood... No more nice big hair, no more spinning around... They won't pay an homage to the show... They will do their own bastardized rendition... She probably won't even work for the military in the update! And what about Diana's homeland and the rest of the Amazons? Eh? Grayson... out! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:11 PM LOLOLOL. I'm not to opposed to the idea however don't expect to see to much acting. I wouldn't mind a slightly camp version of WW...with lots of running, the classic spin, lots of big hair and a big throw back to what made WW a hit on TV. Beyonce could totally look the part. She has the body and the looks and would bring in the box office dollars. my only concern would be that they have the House of Dearon design the outfit...cause then you'd know it would suck. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Omari Confer clockworkman@ gmail.com wrote: Damn Negroesfirst they ruin the presidency ...now comic books (fist shaking) lol On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com wrote: http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/entertainme nt/7718580. stm Pop star Beyonce has said she wants to play Wonder Woman in a film of the comic book heroine. The singer has met DC Comics and film studio Warner Bros to express her interest in future superhero roles on the big screen. I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? she told the Los Angeles Times. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right? Wonder Woman, played by Lynda Carter on TV in the 1970s, has never been made into a feature film. Beyonce was nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in Dreamgirls two years ago, and has also had film parts in Austin Powers in Goldmember and The Pink Panther. She will soon be seen playing singer Etta James on the big screen in Cadillac Records, and has a major role in the thriller Obsessed. After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself: 'OK, I need to be a superhero,' Beyonce said. Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy. -- Michael Street, jr streetforce1@ gmail.com http://www.greasygu ide.com Obama 08 - Yes we can http://www.barackob ama.com -- cwm blog http://centralheati ngblog.blogspot. com STRING THEORY http://www.stringth eory.mypodcast. com -- Michael Street, jr streetforce1@ gmail.com http://www.greasygu ide.com Obama 08 - Yes we can http://www.barackob ama.com
RE: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
You articulated exactly my thoughts. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 7:18 PM Physically it could work, but she displays no emotional depth in her performances. It would be too cartoony and I don’t mean that in a good way. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Grayson Reyes-Cole Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman Oh no. I mean she's gorgeous in my opinion... but.. oh no. I love Wonder Woman... don't do this to me. I saw her in that Pink Panther thing, The Fighting Temptations, Dream Girls, Carmen the remake... Austin Powers Goldmember.. . don't do this to me. Not MY Wonder Woman! On a foot note... I met Etta James... and I don't want that done to me either. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:48 PM http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/entertainme nt/7718580. stm Pop star Beyonce has said she wants to play Wonder Woman in a film of the comic book heroine. The singer has met DC Comics and film studio Warner Bros to express her interest in future superhero roles on the big screen. I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? she told the Los Angeles Times. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right? Wonder Woman, played by Lynda Carter on TV in the 1970s, has never been made into a feature film. Beyonce was nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in Dreamgirls two years ago, and has also had film parts in Austin Powers in Goldmember and The Pink Panther. She will soon be seen playing singer Etta James on the big screen in Cadillac Records, and has a major role in the thriller Obsessed. After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself: 'OK, I need to be a superhero,' Beyonce said. Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy. -- Michael Street, jr streetforce1@ gmail.com http://www.greasygu ide.com Obama 08 - Yes we can http://www.barackob ama.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
My point quot;fooquot; lol is that I can see Beyonce totally rockin#39; a part first brought to life by Vanity. She was pretty, too. She couldn#39;t *act* but she was pretty. --Grayson in a damn airport when she had no intention as of noon today of traveling! Omari Confer wrote: Watch yo self fooVanity is my girl... On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: I agree 100% with Beyoncé in the Last Dragon. That makes way more sense to me! Who was that? Vanity? Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:14 PM Not to have Beyonce play every role but maybe she might be a good pic to play Laura Charles in the Last Dragon remake that's in pre-production now. If not Beyonce then I'd like to see Rihanna in this role. -- cwm blog http://centralheati ngblog.blogspot. com STRING THEORY http://www.stringth eory.mypodcast. com
RE: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman
You articulated exactly my thoughts. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 7:18 PM Physically it could work, but she displays no emotional depth in her performances. It would be too cartoony and I don’t mean that in a good way. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Grayson Reyes-Cole Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman Oh no. I mean she's gorgeous in my opinion... but.. oh no. I love Wonder Woman... don't do this to me. I saw her in that Pink Panther thing, The Fighting Temptations, Dream Girls, Carmen the remake... Austin Powers Goldmember.. . don't do this to me. Not MY Wonder Woman! On a foot note... I met Etta James... and I don't want that done to me either. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Beyonce in talks to Play Wonder Woman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:48 PM http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/entertainme nt/7718580. stm Pop star Beyonce has said she wants to play Wonder Woman in a film of the comic book heroine. The singer has met DC Comics and film studio Warner Bros to express her interest in future superhero roles on the big screen. I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? she told the Los Angeles Times. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right? Wonder Woman, played by Lynda Carter on TV in the 1970s, has never been made into a feature film. Beyonce was nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in Dreamgirls two years ago, and has also had film parts in Austin Powers in Goldmember and The Pink Panther. She will soon be seen playing singer Etta James on the big screen in Cadillac Records, and has a major role in the thriller Obsessed. After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself: 'OK, I need to be a superhero,' Beyonce said. Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy. -- Michael Street, jr streetforce1@ gmail.com http://www.greasygu ide.com Obama 08 - Yes we can http://www.barackob ama.com Messages in this topic (3) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe
Re: [scifinoir2] Wanted 2 Scribe Set
I saw Wanted and really liked it (everything except that first chase scene with the motorcylce and the bus and everything, I hadn't quite suspended my disbelief at that point in the story, lol) I thought the ending was perfect also. The storyline, in my opinion, is easy to continue. In a book series, you kill an important character off because you have too, but the story or series continues, especially if it's not the main characters, right? it's the movie part... huge stars bit it in the first one, so you need new huge stars in the sequel... Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Wanted 2 Scribe Set To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, CINQUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Aisha Demorsella Large' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 5:47 AM Wanted 2 Scribe Set Sequel may have more global scope. by Jim Vejvoda November 5, 2008 - Wanted screenwriter Chris Morgan will reprise his scripting duties for Universal Pictures' sequel to the 2008 action hit. Morgan told MTV that he is currently hashing out the story for Wanted 2 with director Timur Bekmambetov. (SPOILER WARNING) Obviously, the biggest problem in crafting a sequel is that so many characters died in the original. That is the challenge here, said Morgan, but the point is to continue the journey that Wes [Gibson, played by James McAvoy] started in the first film. Wherever he ended up at the end of the film, now it's time to move him forward. The writer added, There's a natural journey that Wes needs to take. Morgan added that Wanted 2 is going to be opened up to be more global. Morgan also said that Mark Millar, creator of the comic book upon which the film was based, will be more involved with the sequel.
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Joe the plumber was on welfare.... lol
Um... reminder...he's a *plumber* ... i don't think passing civics is a requirement for the job :) and we all *knew* he was a plumber... lol Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Joe the plumber was on welfare lol To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:01 PM It's fascinating that a man who would fail Jr. High Civics gets so much camera time. Someone should remove his tongue. B --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: Joe the plumber was on welfare lol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, 'ObamaBrigade' ObamaBrigade@ yahoogroups. com, 'grassroots4obama' grassroots4obama@ yahoogroups. com, 'Chris de Morsella' cdemorsella@ yahoo.com, 'Glenn Sigler' [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] rutgers.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, 'Chris de Morsella' cdemorsella@ yahoo.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 6:53 AM From: Mr. Everything [mailto:everythingi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:42 PM To: Keith Johnson; Cinque3000; sonofafieldnegro@ sbcglobal. net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; 'Tracey de Morsella'; afrikanmind@ hotmail.com; 'Albert Fields'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; 'Cleo'; dorothyhamm@ sbcglobal. net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] net; 'Kai Pettaway'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; 'Michael Gordon'; michael.v.w. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; 'Valery Jean'; 'Wendell Theophilus Smith'; williamsfred@ speakeasy. net; 'Chris de Morsella'; 'Glenn Sigler'; 'GTW'; 'Lockhart, Daryle'; 'Lord Sauron'; 'Martin Baxter'; 'Phyllis Johnson'; 'ravenadal'; martin.baxter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Joe the plumber was on welfare lol http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ZPzW2XELAfwfeature=email
Re: [scifinoir2] Boom Baby! South Park Parodies Election Night
I thought they were parodying Oceans 11 12 and 13? LOL Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Fri, 11/7/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Boom Baby! South Park Parodies Election Night To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:13 AM This episode is inspired! Catch it if you can. ~rave! http://www.associat edcontent. com/article/ 1184665/south_ parks_about_ las t_night_quickly. html South Park's About Last Night Quickly Spoofs Election Aftermath, Heist Films By Robert Dougherty The entire election season inspired tons of parodies and spoofs, but it didn't result in any parodies from the one show that goes farther than any spoof on network TV could. Although the election was full of material that South Park could have easily parodied or mocked, South Park did not do any election spoofs during the primary season, or during the pre-election runup. Instead, they saved doing an election parody until the night after it ended, which was fittingly titled About Last Night. And of course, South Park used Obama and McCain themselves in yet another movie genre parody. In waiting until Obama was declared the winner, South Park once again demonstrated how current and topical they are. About Last Night literally lifted lines said in Obama and McCain's speeches the previous night to start the episode. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are famous for waiting until the last minute to finish an episode, but this is a South Park record. About Last Night's last minute topicality can be put up with the Emmy winning Best Friends Forever Terri Schiavo parody that aired the night before Schiavo's death, and the It's Christmas in Canada episode that worked in the capture of Saddam Hussain three days after he was found in real life. Aside from the ultra-topical references, South Park had bi-partisan spoofing of the Obama and McCain supporters. The Obama supporters, led by the crazed Randy Marsh, partied way too hard and thought Obama's change meant they could do anything. McCain's supporters, led by Butters Stotch's psychotic father, went nuts by building a bunker for the end of days. Most notably, Kyle's little brother Ike was so distraught by McCain's loss that he jumped five feet off a window, equating the McCain supporters to little babies. But as for actual spoofs of Obama and McCain themselves, South Park didn't spoof the political process between them, so much as they put them in another movie genre parody. This time, About Last Night spoofed the overdone heist genre, as Obama and McCain's entire election is painted as part of an elaborate heist to steal the Hope Diamond. Even Michelle Obama and an actually cultured Sarah Palin are in on it. Spoofing heist movies is a random way to parody this election. But if South Park had any message to it, it was probably to comment on how Obama and McCain are no different than regular old politicians, who are usually the equivalent of thieves anyway. Having them work together to steal the Hope Diamond is another clue to that. Now that the election is done, South Park will have to find non- election events to spoof for the final two episodes of the season. But since they found random topics like pan flute bands and Indiana Jones to parody this year instead of the election, that shouldn't be hard for them.
Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable)
I really like the Halloween revisit. 1000 Corpses and Devil's Reject make all my happy sad. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable) To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 6:27 PM I resisted HOSTEL but upon finally seeing it, I came away primarily impressed with Eli Roth's undeniable talent as a filmmaker. I was similarly impressed with Rob Zombie's helming of the HALLOWEEN remake, which is grade A work and is presaged by his gonzo work on HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES and THE DEVIL'S REJECTS - both of which are unabashed trash (but well made trash). ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: Er... probably... And to answer your other question. There are scenes I didn't watch, rather listened to... not out of fear but out of is this really necessary? So in that case, yes there are some really gruesome scenes... but they don't go on for long (ok... maybe a couple of them do)... I think I'm just making excuses because I like the story, lol... I haven't seen Hostel or Turistas or a ton of other movies expressly because I'm not interested in that stuff and yet, Saw does have a few of those elements. I cannot tell a lie. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, KeithBJohnson@ ... KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ ... KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir 2] Horror Marathons on Cable) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 5:53 AM So, to my point of inferiour sequels or clones, do Saw 4 and 5 fall into that bad category, along with all the Friday the 13th, Halloween, and Children of the Corn sequels? -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I completely agree with your assessment of Saw and Saw 2. The original Saw is a text book example of how to create horror and suspense on a very tight budget. The way the writer and director used their disadvantages to their advantage is nothing short of ingenious. For me, the series goes off the rails in Saw 3 because I believe this sequel violates the series implicit contract with the viewer when Jigsaw's assistant breaks the rules of Jigsaw's intricate puzzle tortures. Plus, Saw 3 recycled puzzle tortures from previous movies which, to me, is a sign of filmmakers who are either lazy or out of ideas. I have resisted both Saw IV and Saw V. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: First a disclaimer, we frequently like or laud things that resemble our own aesthetic. So some of the things I l ike about the Saw series, I may be a little biased about simply because the writer seemed to be saying something I also tried to say (in much more ramped down manner) in my latest release. OK. now that that's out of the way... here are some of the reasons I like it. 1) Regardless of whether you think it's smart or not (I thought it was smart) or find holes in it or not (I didn't find any until late in the series) it'd be difficult for one to argue that this series is not plot driven. I like that. Some of the horror films I don't like are two dimensional. Evil people/creatures with no motive other than hunger do bad things. Sometimes the lore or story behind them is driven by popular culture and there's no value add to the film, which sometimes seems lazy. If not lazy, then pushed aside as the filmmakers tried to accomplish other things like shock. If you like the shock value movies, gore only, etc... that's ok and I don't mean to put anyone down... I'm saying that I get easily bored by it and usually don't finish the movie. I enjoy Saw because it has a plot, a three- dimensional antagonist, and despite the gore, the priority seems to be in the right place for my aesthetic. 2) The first movie absolutely beat my expectations. It did ask the question, hurt someone else or hurt yourself, but it asked more than that. It asked a person to do something abhorrent to save his/her life, thus be forced to recognize the value of life, or fail to do something abhorrent, thus showing that your life doesn't mean that much to you, so you die. I ask a similar question in my novel but it's quite a bit different from the Saw perspective and, well, I've mentioned I'm not much of a gore fan. The selection of the victims for these Jigsaw reindeer games
Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable)
Er... probably... And to answer your other question. There are scenes I didn't watch, rather listened to... not out of fear but out of is this really necessary? So in that case, yes there are some really gruesome scenes... but they don't go on for long (ok... maybe a couple of them do)... I think I'm just making excuses because I like the story, lol... I haven't seen Hostel or Turistas or a ton of other movies expressly because I'm not interested in that stuff and yet, Saw does have a few of those elements. I cannot tell a lie. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable) To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 5:53 AM So, to my point of inferiour sequels or clones, do Saw 4 and 5 fall into that bad category, along with all the Friday the 13th, Halloween, and Children of the Corn sequels? -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I completely agree with your assessment of Saw and Saw 2. The original Saw is a text book example of how to create horror and suspense on a very tight budget. The way the writer and director used their disadvantages to their advantage is nothing short of ingenious. For me, the series goes off the rails in Saw 3 because I believe this sequel violates the series implicit contract with the viewer when Jigsaw's assistant breaks the rules of Jigsaw's intricate puzzle tortures. Plus, Saw 3 recycled puzzle tortures from previous movies which, to me, is a sign of filmmakers who are either lazy or out of ideas. I have resisted both Saw IV and Saw V. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: First a disclaimer, we frequently like or laud things that resemble our own aesthetic. So some of the things I l ike about the Saw series, I may be a little biased about simply because the writer seemed to be saying something I also tried to say (in much more ramped down manner) in my latest release. OK. now that that's out of the way... here are some of the reasons I like it. 1) Regardless of whether you think it's smart or not (I thought it was smart) or find holes in it or not (I didn't find any until late in the series) it'd be difficult for one to argue that this series is not plot driven. I like that. Some of the horror films I don't like are two dimensional. Evil people/creatures with no motive other than hunger do bad things. Sometimes the lore or story behind them is driven by popular culture and there's no value add to the film, which sometimes seems lazy. If not lazy, then pushed aside as the filmmakers tried to accomplish other things like shock. If you like the shock value movies, gore only, etc... that's ok and I don't mean to put anyone down... I'm saying that I get easily bored by it and usually don't finish the movie. I enjoy Saw because it has a plot, a three- dimensional antagonist, and despite the gore, the priority seems to be in the right place for my aesthetic. 2) The first movie absolutely beat my expectations. It did ask the question, hurt someone else or hurt yourself, but it asked more than that. It asked a person to do something abhorrent to save his/her life, thus be forced to recognize the value of life, or fail to do something abhorrent, thus showing that your life doesn't mean that much to you, so you die. I ask a similar question in my novel but it's quite a bit different from the Saw perspective and, well, I've mentioned I'm not much of a gore fan. The selection of the victims for these Jigsaw reindeer games, I thought, was also clever. 3) The second movie really hooked me because of a moment in the movie when me and my date (who had seen the first one in a theater together) both looked at each other and had a huge OMG moment when we recognized one of the characters from the first film and like a completed dot-to-dot, the plot gained dimension where I had *no* expectation for it to. I figured it couldn't possibly get me again... but it did. That made me happy. 4) The third movie, pleased me because we got to spend a lot of time with Jigsaw and two of his subjects. 5) The fourth movie was hard for me to get through... really, no lie... it took several tries for me to watch it, get it. Not that the plot was so intricate that I needed to study it, more that I found it convoluted. I finally only watched it because I wanted to decide if I would see V or not. Yep, four was when I started thinking that I might be done with the series, but V was released... and there was a big deal abou t the opening... and well... as long as they make them, I'll probably watch
[scifinoir2] Re: The SAW movies
H... On 3, I can see your point... I can completely see your point, though on the other side of it, because i felt vindicated... when I saw the first scene I was like... why would Jigsaw change the game... the answer was really, really convenient, but hey I am easy girl to please ;) .maybe not I dunno, I guess it just didn't bother me as much. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The SAW movies (was:[RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable) To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 5:41 AM I completely agree with your assessment of Saw and Saw 2. The original Saw is a text book example of how to create horror and suspense on a very tight budget. The way the writer and director used their disadvantages to their advantage is nothing short of ingenious. For me, the series goes off the rails in Saw 3 because I believe this sequel violates the series implicit contract with the viewer when Jigsaw's assistant breaks the rules of Jigsaw's intricate puzzle tortures. Plus, Saw 3 recycled puzzle tortures from previous movies which, to me, is a sign of filmmakers who are either lazy or out of ideas. I have resisted both Saw IV and Saw V. ~rave! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ ... wrote: First a disclaimer, we frequently like or laud things that resemble our own aesthetic. So some of the things I like about the Saw series, I may be a little biased about simply because the writer seemed to be saying something I also tried to say (in much more ramped down manner) in my latest release. OK. now that that's out of the way... here are some of the reasons I like it. 1) Regardless of whether you think it's smart or not (I thought it was smart) or find holes in it or not (I didn't find any until late in the series) it'd be difficult for one to argue that this series is not plot driven. I like that. Some of the horror films I don't like are two dimensional. Evil people/creatures with no motive other than hunger do bad things. Sometimes the lore or story behind them is driven by popular culture and there's no value add to the film, which sometimes seems lazy. If not lazy, then pushed aside as the filmmakers tried to accomplish other things like shock. If you like the shock value movies, gore only, etc... that's ok and I don't mean to put anyone down... I'm saying that I get easily bored by it and usually don't finish the movie. I enjoy Saw because it has a plot, a three- dimensional antagonist, and despite the gore, the priority seems to be in the right place for my aesthetic. 2) The first movie absolutely beat my expectations. It did ask the question, hurt someone else or hurt yourself, but it asked more than that. It asked a person to do something abhorrent to save his/her life, thus be forced to recognize the value of life, or fail to do something abhorrent, thus showing that your life doesn't mean that much to you, so you die. I ask a similar question in my novel but it's quite a bit different from the Saw perspective and, well, I've mentioned I'm not much of a gore fan. The selection of the victims for these Jigsaw reindeer games, I thought, was also clever. 3) The second movie really hooked me because of a moment in the movie when me and my date (who had seen the first one in a theater together) both looked at each other and had a huge OMG moment when we recognized one of the characters from the first film and like a completed dot-to-dot, the plot gained dimension where I had *no* expectation for it to. I figured it couldn't possibly get me again... but it did. That made me happy. 4) The third movie, pleased me because we got to spend a lot of time with Jigsaw and two of his subjects. 5) The fourth movie was hard for me to get through... really, no lie... it took several tries for me to watch it, get it. Not that the plot was so intricate that I needed to study it, more that I found it convoluted. I finally only watched it because I wanted to decide if I would see V or not. Yep, four was when I started thinking that I might be done with the series, but V was released... and there was a big deal about the opening... and well... as long as they make them, I'll probably watch them. As a postscript, I also like the musical indicators. When I was little, I used to get scared by scary music in shows, whether what was happening on screen was scary or not... I like the way they use music in the series. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Martin Baxter
[scifinoir2] Seeker SPOILERS and Ursula K. Le Guin
Dude! Are you serious? Then the book going into the fire is totally not the only problem. What was the point of making the guy not know anything at all about his Destiny if in the books he spends his entire childhood learning about it... I mean it sounds like there was ABSOLUTELY no reason to do what they did unless America responds to brash young white fellow with no background or learnin', with a chiseled body and a can do attitude... (I'm killing myself with this one)... Now I am forced to quote Ursula K. Le Guin on the movie and tv adaptations of her novels: Am I going to sell another book to Hollywood? Probably not. Bit once, OK; bit twice, you're stupid. I think a couple of my books would make very good movies, but you've got to have somebody who really believes in you, really believes this book would make a good movie, not, 'I'm going to buy this book so we can use her name, and then I'll make the movie I want to make.' However, I got wonderful letters of condolence for months after the Sci Fi Channel's version of A Wizard of Earthsea. People were so sweet, so mad! I do have wonderful readers. They write the nicest damn letters. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:06 AM SPOILERS FOR THE BOOKS!!! ! In the Book (Wizards First Rule) Richard is made to read and memorize the book of shadows from a very young age. His father (Richard Cyper) made him memorize the book. Once Richard had the book memorized the book and could recite it back to his father word for word the book was destroyed. So unless they show Richard memorizing the book in a flashback I am not sure how they will reconcile the books destruction. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: Spoil the show, eh? Um... I don't mind... put SPOILER at the top and gimme the goods. :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:26 PM I dont want to spoil the show, but I can say that they left out a huge chunk of information regarding Zedd, Richard, the book and George Cypher. So large that it affects the outcome of the end of the first book, and in some way each book that comes after it. The curiosity of how they are going to deal with this (flashback maybe) is the only reason I may keep watching. Jeff On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: So Jeff, In the text he *doesn't* toss the book into the fire? If not, sounds like a huge misstep! The guy does seem a bit, well, wee for the part. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:07 AM Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable
First a disclaimer, we frequently like or laud things that resemble our own aesthetic. So some of the things I like about the Saw series, I may be a little biased about simply because the writer seemed to be saying something I also tried to say (in much more ramped down manner) in my latest release. OK. now that that's out of the way... here are some of the reasons I like it. 1) Regardless of whether you think it's smart or not (I thought it was smart) or find holes in it or not (I didn't find any until late in the series) it'd be difficult for one to argue that this series is not plot driven. I like that. Some of the horror films I don't like are two dimensional. Evil people/creatures with no motive other than hunger do bad things. Sometimes the lore or story behind them is driven by popular culture and there's no value add to the film, which sometimes seems lazy. If not lazy, then pushed aside as the filmmakers tried to accomplish other things like shock. If you like the shock value movies, gore only, etc... that's ok and I don't mean to put anyone down... I'm saying that I get easily bored by it and usually don't finish the movie. I enjoy Saw because it has a plot, a three-dimensional antagonist, and despite the gore, the priority seems to be in the right place for my aesthetic. 2) The first movie absolutely beat my expectations. It did ask the question, hurt someone else or hurt yourself, but it asked more than that. It asked a person to do something abhorrent to save his/her life, thus be forced to recognize the value of life, or fail to do something abhorrent, thus showing that your life doesn't mean that much to you, so you die. I ask a similar question in my novel but it's quite a bit different from the Saw perspective and, well, I've mentioned I'm not much of a gore fan. The selection of the victims for these Jigsaw reindeer games, I thought, was also clever. 3) The second movie really hooked me because of a moment in the movie when me and my date (who had seen the first one in a theater together) both looked at each other and had a huge OMG moment when we recognized one of the characters from the first film and like a completed dot-to-dot, the plot gained dimension where I had *no* expectation for it to. I figured it couldn't possibly get me again... but it did. That made me happy. 4) The third movie, pleased me because we got to spend a lot of time with Jigsaw and two of his subjects. 5) The fourth movie was hard for me to get through... really, no lie... it took several tries for me to watch it, get it. Not that the plot was so intricate that I needed to study it, more that I found it convoluted. I finally only watched it because I wanted to decide if I would see V or not. Yep, four was when I started thinking that I might be done with the series, but V was released... and there was a big deal about the opening... and well... as long as they make them, I'll probably watch them. As a postscript, I also like the musical indicators. When I was little, I used to get scared by scary music in shows, whether what was happening on screen was scary or not... I like the way they use music in the series. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:23 PM Keith, I'll give the first one some points for originality. Putting two people in circumstances that demand that they either hurt themselves or those they care for had a neat psychological edge. For me, that's where the better part of horror kicks in. The gore didn't bother me at all because, at the risk of freaking people out, I have seen worse in real life. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable Date : Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:52:44 + From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com What is so good about Saw? Never seen any of the eps... -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole Just for the record :) though my pleasure with the series may say something different, I am not a gan of torture porn either. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 3:21 AM Psycho is a classic, no doubt. So is the original Halloween, for that matter. As for the Saw torture porn stuff, yeah, it doesn't exactly thrill me. -- Original
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable
lol! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 2:52 PM Well thought out and said! I hate horror movies but saw part of #3 on TV. Great observations. You ALMOST make me want to see these films. On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole wrote: First a disclaimer, we frequently like or laud things that resemble our own aesthetic. So some of the things I like about the Saw series, I may be a little biased about simply because the writer seemed to be saying something I also tried to say (in much more ramped down manner) in my latest release. OK. now that that's out of the way... here are some of the reasons I like it. 1) Regardless of whether you think it's smart or not (I thought it was smart) or find holes in it or not (I didn't find any until late in the series) it'd be difficult for one to argue that this series is not plot driven. I like that. Some of the horror films I don't like are two dimensional. Evil people/creatures with no motive other than hunger do bad things. Sometimes the lore or story behind them is driven by popular culture and there's no value add to the film, which sometimes seems lazy. If not lazy, then pushed aside as the filmmakers tried to accomplish other things like shock. If you like the shock value movies, gore only, etc... that's ok and I don't mean to put anyone down... I'm saying that I get easily bored by it and usually don't finish the movie. I enjoy Saw because it has a plot, a three-dimensional antagonist, and despite the gore, the priority seems to be in the right place for my aesthetic. 2) The first movie absolutely beat my expectations. It did ask the question, hurt someone else or hurt yourself, but it asked more than that. It asked a person to do something abhorrent to save his/her life, thus be forced to recognize the value of life, or fail to do something abhorrent, thus showing that your life doesn't mean that much to you, so you die. I ask a similar question in my novel but it's quite a bit different from the Saw perspective and, well, I've mentioned I'm not much of a gore fan. The selection of the victims for these Jigsaw reindeer games, I thought, was also clever. 3) The second movie really hooked me because of a moment in the movie when me and my date (who had seen the first one in a theater together) both looked at each other and had a huge OMG moment when we recognized one of the characters from the first film and like a completed dot-to-dot, the plot gained dimension where I had *no* expectation for it to. I figured it couldn't possibly get me again... but it did. That made me happy. 4) The third movie, pleased me because we got to spend a lot of time with Jigsaw and two of his subjects. 5) The fourth movie was hard for me to get through... really, no lie... it took several tries for me to watch it, get it. Not that the plot was so intricate that I needed to study it, more that I found it convoluted. I finally only watched it because I wanted to decide if I would see V or not. Yep, four was when I started thinking that I might be done with the series, but V was released... and there was a big deal about the opening... and well... as long as they make them, I'll probably watch them. As a postscript, I also like the musical indicators. When I was little, I used to get scared by scary music in shows, whether what was happening on screen was scary or not... I like the way they use music in the series. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:23 PM Keith, I'll give the first one some points for originality. Putting two people in circumstances that demand that they either hurt themselves or those they care for had a neat psychological edge. For me, that's where the better part of horror kicks in. The gore didn't bother me at all because, at the risk of freaking people out, I have seen worse in real life. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Horror Marathons on Cable Date : Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:52:44 + From : KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com What is so good about Saw? Never seen any of the eps... -- Original message -- From: Grayson Reyes-Cole Just for the record :) though
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
So Jeff, In the text he *doesn't* toss the book into the fire? If not, sounds like a huge misstep! The guy does seem a bit, well, wee for the part. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:07 AM Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On Sun, 11/2/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview of the series, and Lucy Lawless has done a video hosting spot too. Check out the web site, it's pretty nice, with lots of video trailers you can click on, including the first ten minutes of the pilot, as well as video shorts featuring each of the major characters. In the upper right hand corner is a zip code link to let you know when it will show in your area. It debuted Saturday in many cities, and will debut today in others (Premieres at 6 pm today on WATL in Atlanta, Martin). Like the old days of Xe na, the Action Pack, etc., apparently the syndication deal will have it showing in different time slots and channels around the country. Don't know if it'll be just okay like Beastmaster , or rise to the level of Hercules and Xena when those shows were at their best, but hey--it's new spec fiction on TV, so I'll give it a shot! Gotta be better than that new Crusoe series that debuted last week! *** http://www.legendof theseeker. com/characters. html Richard Cypher was once but a simple woodsman, an expert tracker and explorer of the trails that run through and around his home town of Hartland, located in the province known as Westland. He was well liked by the townspeople, and looked up to his older brother, Michael, the First Councilor. Their father, George Cypher, raised the two boys after the death of his wife. Life was an uneventful series of tasks and duties for Richard, until fate brought him together with a mysterious and captivating female, Kahlan Amnell.. From a seemingly crazed old man, Zedd, the truth was soon revealed to Richard. He is a child of prophecy, the first true Seeker the world has known in a thousand years, destined to wield the powerful Sword of Truth and defeat the evil tyrant Darken Rahl. Kahlan Amnell. She is one of an ancient order of magical women known as Confessors. Her people are sworn to find the truth, no matter how hard someone may try to hide
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
Spoil the show, eh? Um... I don't mind... put SPOILER at the top and gimme the goods. :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:26 PM I dont want to spoil the show, but I can say that they left out a huge chunk of information regarding Zedd, Richard, the book and George Cypher. So large that it affects the outcome of the end of the first book, and in some way each book that comes after it. The curiosity of how they are going to deal with this (flashback maybe) is the only reason I may keep watching. Jeff On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com wrote: So Jeff, In the text he *doesn't* toss the book into the fire? If not, sounds like a huge misstep! The guy does seem a bit, well, wee for the part. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:07 AM Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On Sun, 11/2/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview of the series, and Lucy Lawless has done a video hosting spot too. Check out the web site, it's pretty nice, with lots of video trailers you can click on, including the first ten minutes of the pilot, as well as video shorts featuring each of the major characters. In the upper right hand corner is a zip code link to let you know when it will show in your area. It debuted Saturday in many cities, and will debut today in others (Premieres at 6 pm today on WATL in Atlanta, Martin). Like the old days of Xe na, the Action Pack, etc., apparently the syndication deal will have it showing in different time slots and channels around the country. Don't know if it'll be just okay like Beastmaster , or rise to the level of Hercules and Xena when those shows were at their best, but hey--it's new spec fiction on TV, so I'll give it a shot! Gotta be better than that new Crusoe series that debuted last week
