Re: [scifinoir2] Soul-Toons
wow... On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Pretty much speaks for itself, folks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71rl10hohRI -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- READ MY BLOG http://clockchronicles.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] BATMAN ILLUSTRATIONS
Joe Madura? On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Those are good. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: [image: 01] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/01.jpg [image: 02] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/02.jpg [image: 03] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/03.jpg [image: 04] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/04.jpg [image: 05] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/05.jpg [image: 06] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/06.jpg [image: 07] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/07.jpg [image: 08] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/08.jpg [image: 09] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/09.jpg [image: 10] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/10.jpg [image: 11] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/11.jpg [image: 12] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/12.jpg [image: 13] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/13.jpg [image: 14] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/14.jpg [image: 15] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/15.jpg [image: 16] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/16.jpg [image: 17] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/17.jpg [image: 18] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/18.jpg [image: 19] http://www.yurock.net/wp-content/gallery/3batman/19.jpg -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- READ MY BLOG http://clockchronicles.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night
Proceeds went to charityfyi.. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: rave, I was watching TV at that time. I made the conscious decision that I wasn't going to join the circus. Can't remember what I was watching at the time, but it just didn't matter to me. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I watched (as did the majority of the television watching public at that hour - you know who you are) and the whole undertaking was so bland and innocuous that I am amazed at all the reprobation the enterprise has engendered. From all the strum and drang, you would think this was the end of civilization as we know it. And that might not be a bad thing. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: No problem with it either, rave. Just glad that I didn't watch. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the police officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for one black man to have! I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his trade where ever he wants to. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs). On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595 Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household rating in the preliminary overnight ratings. Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of The Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary overnights. Update: Here is ESPN's official press release. A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks. -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- READ MY BLOG http://clockchronicles.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Alice Eve to play Emma Frost in 'X-Men: First Class'
Great casting She is perfect. c w m On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Said Kakese Dibinga s...@bayindogroup.comwrote: http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/06/alice-eve-cast-as-emma-frost-in-xmen-first-class.html Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General, Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 em: s...@bayindogroup.com skype: saiddibinga -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Alice Eve to play Emma Frost in 'X-Men: First Class'
Too skinny...not Emma enough... c w m On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I was kinda hoping for Rosamund Pike, who played villainess Miranda Frost in the Bond film Die Another Day. She had an icy coolness in that film that to me would show she would be a perfect Emma Frost... http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_Die_Another_Day/2002_die_another_day_015.jpg http://tedstrong.com/graphics/rosamundpikebig.jpg - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:52:53 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Alice Eve to play Emma Frost in 'X-Men: First Class' Great casting She is perfect. c w m On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Said Kakese Dibinga s...@bayindogroup.com wrote: http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/06/alice-eve-cast-as-emma-frost-in-xmen-first-class.html Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General, Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 em: s...@bayindogroup.com skype: saiddibinga -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Upcoming movies...
Im gonna put my home videos in 3d... On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Two kisses of death: It is opening in January and it is in 3D (the last refuge of the failed movie). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I am going to warn you now You might want to avert your eyes Trailer for the Green Hornet http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/20458007/standardformat What could possibly be worse??? SMURFS 3D!!! Piranha 3d!?!? Takers (Matt Dilon, and TI?)??? The Expendables? Possibly good: Get Low (Robert Duvall, Sissy Spacek, Bill Murray), the Other Guys, Inception, The Last Airbender -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] The Machine Girl
And its streaming. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com wrote: This is one of my favorite movies. It's on Netflix. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The Machine Girl (aka Kataude Mashin Garu) is about a young woman (Played by the very cute Minase Yashiro wearing the traditional school uniform.) seeking revenge for the death of her brother and his friend that was bullied then murdered by the son of a Yakuza chief. In her solo attempt to seek revenge she loses an half of an arm in the process. After gaining the friendship of the father of her brother's friend he builds her a prosthetic arm that is an eight barrel machine gun to help her fight the Yakuza and NINJAS! This movie is splatteriffic! There are multiple blood splatter scenes that are so over the top that they are laughable. (If you have seen any of the Lone Wolf and Cub movies you know what I mean by that.) Other scenes are so gory that they are almost cartoony with violence. Somehow you find yourself routing for her anyway. The movie was made by the Nikkatsu film (and Tokyo Shock) company in Japan who are famous for their Pinky Violence (basically bad girls taking revenge) and Roman Porno movies in the 1960s-80s. Great action, although not totally believable, but who cares? Its fun! Check it out! They have an English dubbed version of the movie so that helps out a lot with the action. Rated R 3 stars for creative gore. -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.comhttp://harlemsocial.com/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] The Sorcerer's apprentice
That is what they claimed. On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Just caught a trailer for it on tv. This isn't the story related to Mickey Mouse. Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1346832153/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Jaden Smith's Karate Kid Defies Hollywood wisdom
Its also a remake...with Will Smith's kidand the most prolific action star on the planetslam dunk. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Jaden Smith's The Karate Kid wasn't supposed to score a huge $55.7 million opening (and $112 million in two weeks). It is done so by defying conventional Hollywood wisdom. Amazingly, it has an almost entirely nonwhite cast. This something The Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender were too timid to try. ~rave! -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Who greenlighted Jonah Hex
The idea is genius. The execution is the issue. On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:55 AM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone with half a brain knew this was DOA , Megan Fox or not. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jaden Smith's Karate Kid Defies Hollywood wisdom
The daughter of Clint went out of her way to not use her dads repand has gotten her nowhere. The foundation of hollywood is in the genes man. Ask the Baldwins...the Barrymores, The Arquettes, the Copalas...etc On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: ...just ask the Eastwoods. Another thing to factor in is that Will's son's LAST picture was a remake, and was horrible. This film succeeded, as much as nobody wants to admit it, BECAUSE of Jaden Smith. And I love me some Jackie Chan. But Jaden made this character work! On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Kelwyn wrote: Nothing in Hollywood is a slam dunk. Before hand everybody was picking The A-team, another remake, as the slam dunk. Further, conventional wisdom is that a major movie must be helmed by a white person. Lastly, what does Will Smith's track record have to do with his son? Hollywood dominance is not hereditary. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Its also a remake...with Will Smith's kidand the most prolific action star on the planetslam dunk. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Jaden Smith's The Karate Kid wasn't supposed to score a huge $55.7 million opening (and $112 million in two weeks). It is done so by defying conventional Hollywood wisdom. Amazingly, it has an almost entirely nonwhite cast. This something The Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender were too timid to try. ~rave! -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Why the hatred for Jaden Smith?
Cant go wrong with jackie chan. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: This was the defining reason I've heard elsewhere for not liking the movie. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Amy Harlib ahar...@earthlink.net wrote: ahar...@earthlink.net I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with Karate which is a Japanese thing. It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. Amy It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship money too much to say it to their faces. Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like underwhelm. Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. Collectively, we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred towards BOTH kids. Wait till Willow's album drops. What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, at least — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the haters foaming. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Road
I dont think anything is as depressing as Preciousreal talk On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:03 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote: Like with Precious (why why oh why did I watch that), I had to chase it with a romantic comedy the next day to shake it off. 27 Dresses I think. Try it. Ha! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@... wrote: Angela, now u have me wondering do i want 2 see it! i hate feeling like what u have described. Fate. --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Angela Robinson asrobin...@... wrote: From: Angela Robinson asrobin...@... Subject: [scifinoir2] The Road To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 9:21 PM   I'm sure The Road was discussed when it came out, but I just got around to seeing it on PPV this weekend. Maybe the most dark and depressing movie I've ever seen (or in the top 5 anyway).  Yet the last few minutes offered a little redeeming hope in a way that was totally unexpected to me. I thought it was well done and worth checking out if you don't mind feeling awful for a little while. Some how, more than Survivors, Book of Eli, The Day After or even Threads, The Road left me sunk in the sofa saying, God, would it ever really come to that?  Angela -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] No matter where you go...there you are
Its not just white folks that hate people of color...people of color hate people of color. That is why it is so easy... On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I think it's the same reason so many hatemongers stills wipe at Jews. They've been doing it so long, it just comes naturally. [?][?] On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The thing that I find disturbing about this is it was in Peru. Why is it so easy to discriminate against us? On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: The banning of a character in a popular television comedy has sparked a major race row in Peru. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/2010/06/100607_outlook_racism_peru.shtml?s Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com 323.gif320.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] The Event
Lost has burned me out on mysteriesill pass. c w m On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I heard about this a couple of months ago, and will give it at least the pilot. Promises a major conspiracy. I hope it measures up. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The crackalishus workers at NBC are at it again. Blair Underwood as Obama? No. Blair Underwood as President Martinez yes. WTF?? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1582459/ I guess that this is NBC's answer to 2012? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Burn Notice Marathon on USA Now
I think The Closer is the most watched cable show.they might be talking about time slots. and the yogurt is a great balanced snack...perfect for a deadly spy. c w m On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: USA is running an all day Burn Notice marathon, leading up to the new season premiere at 9 pm EST. I believe that's followed by the season premiere of another good show, Royal Pains. I didn't know Burn Notice was the most watched cable show, but that's what USA claims. I'm looking forward to seeing the gang again. But one question: what's up with all the yogurt? ** http://www.usanetwork.com/schedules/sched.php http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/index.htmlBURN NOTICE SEASON PREMIERE TONIGHT AT 9/8C! *Michael* helps *Fiona* and *Sam* protect a lawyer against the city's most dangerous biker gang. Meanwhile, he must team up with an unlikely ally to stop a looming terrorist threat... but quickly finds that no mission is without its price. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The End Of Lost
Seems like the best way to enjoy a genre show is to watch everything but the ending. Battlestar was poised to be the greatest genre show.maybe just the best show all aroundever. Then the ending happened and i felt lectured about god and heavenkinda like the Lost finale. What if I was agnostic or aetheist? I would feel offended. c w m On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I was spared the Battlestar finale (never watched it). I feel you on X-Files. The biggest betrayal is that they say got a plan but they ain't got no plan. As someone on another list said: the Dharma Experiment was one to see how long it could keep me sitting on the couch watching that...(insert appropriate number of bleeps). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Tis bad my fine fellows but it is hardly battlestar bad. Lost only partly betrayed what it was. I had an xfiles aftertaste when it was done. Witness the death of serial sci fi. C w m Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@... wrote: Wow I'm glad that I didn't watch it. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote: Just found this synopsis, courtesy of Yahu. Spoiler-ific, and supportive of any available argument for NOT watching. EVER. http://tv.yahoo.com/lost/show/36617/news/tv-news.en.ap.org/tv-news.en.ap.org-20100524-us_tv_lost_finale On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I didn't watch for the same reasons Rave wrote. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote: rave, if even ONE of those characters had bitten it, the Teabaggers would be marching on H'Wood. Call that another H'Wood failure, then. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Didn't watch. I don't hate this show, but I dislike it a lot. Why? Because there was wholesale carnage on the characters of color. I was pissed off enough when they killed off great characters like Mr. Eko and Ana Lucia but then I read that they finally killed Sayid, Jin and Sun while lilly-white Jack, Sawyer and Kate make it to the end. F-them! F-them! F-them! That said. I would LOVE to hear ya'll discuss how it ended. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpigs3@ wrote: Did anyone watch? Did anyone care? I'm still gathering my thoughts. I'm holding off on discussion of specifics for fear of spoilage. I'm torn, really torn. There are somethings I liked and somethings I didnt. I think they may be the same as the things I've liked and disliked about the show the whole time. I rewatched the pilot episode and while I am not thoroghly convinced that they had the whole thing planned out, I think there was some definitive planning from the beginning. I think Locke teaching Walt to play backgammon was indicative of such. I'm walking away from six seasons not feeling Galactica'd but not necessarily satisfied either. Anyone else? Bosco -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The End Of Lost
Tis bad my fine fellows but it is hardly battlestar bad. Lost only partly betrayed what it was. I had an xfiles aftertaste when it was done. Witness the death of serial sci fi. C w m Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Wow I'm glad that I didn't watch it. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Just found this synopsis, courtesy of Yahu. Spoiler-ific, and supportive of any available argument for NOT watching. EVER. http://tv.yahoo.com/lost/show/36617/news/tv-news.en.ap.org/tv-news.en.ap.org-20100524-us_tv_lost_finale On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't watch for the same reasons Rave wrote. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: rave, if even ONE of those characters had bitten it, the Teabaggers would be marching on H'Wood. Call that another H'Wood failure, then. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't watch. I don't hate this show, but I dislike it a lot. Why? Because there was wholesale carnage on the characters of color. I was pissed off enough when they killed off great characters like Mr. Eko and Ana Lucia but then I read that they finally killed Sayid, Jin and Sun while lilly-white Jack, Sawyer and Kate make it to the end. F-them! F-them! F-them! That said. I would LOVE to hear ya'll discuss how it ended. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote: Did anyone watch? Did anyone care? I'm still gathering my thoughts. I'm holding off on discussion of specifics for fear of spoilage. I'm torn, really torn. There are somethings I liked and somethings I didnt. I think they may be the same as the things I've liked and disliked about the show the whole time. I rewatched the pilot episode and while I am not thoroghly convinced that they had the whole thing planned out, I think there was some definitive planning from the beginning. I think Locke teaching Walt to play backgammon was indicative of such. I'm walking away from six seasons not feeling Galactica'd but not necessarily satisfied either. Anyone else? Bosco -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Series That Ended Badly
I honestly loved both ends to Neon Genesis.. Sent on the go from my Peek - Martin Baxtermartinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, while we're in AnimeLand, allow me to toss in Neon Genesis Evangelion. (It fell apart because the director was having a nervous breakdown while filming the original ending. Trying to make it up to the fans, the producers commissioned a second end, which was so hyperkinetic as to be as nonsensical as the original. A double WTF?, it was. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Seinfeld was disappointing. Not that I loved the show but I got into it during the last season and remember being disappointed. Most American shows have been bad with endings. Many of them are canceled before there is a scheduled ending so I guess that they don't know how to finish it. Big O was another disappointment, but it wasn't their fault. The creators got caught up in a mess and they didn't get a chance to complete the episodes. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: The talk of Lost and the less-than-spectacular ending (no Spoilers!) made me think of The Sopranos, whose ending angered many fans. And that made me think of BSG, whose ending angered many fans. BSG made me think of Enterprise, whose ending angered many--get the drift? So I was thinking of shows that we loved or at least were attached to, which ended in less than satisfactory methods. Enterprise ticked me off by using another time-travel type device, by killing Trip, and by inserting Riker and Troi unnecessarily. What other series can you think of whose endings you anticipated, but which disappointed you? I'm talking about shows that actually got an ending, not those that were canceled and simply stopped airing new eps. This can be scifi, animation, or any real life drama. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Why Young Black Superheros gotta have Blond Hair?
Better question is...why does it matter? On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Good question! On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Whycome YOUNG Black Superheros gotta have WHITE hair? If I didn't know better you would think the streets are full young black guys with WHITE hair. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Looks like his hair is white to me... On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/04/23/animated-young-justice-is-offically-announced-by-dc/ You can read more about the show at MTV Splash Page, but I do have one question that needs to be answered, whats up with the blonde hair on the the black guys. First it was Spyke in X-men Evolution and now with Aqualad in Young Justice, if I didn't know better you would think the streets are full young black guys with blonde hair who secretly want to be Sysko for Dru Hill. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Why Young Black Superheros gotta have Blond Hair?
Looks like his hair is white to me... On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/04/23/animated-young-justice-is-offically-announced-by-dc/ You can read more about the show at MTV Splash Page, but I do have one question that needs to be answered, whats up with the blonde hair on the the black guys. First it was Spyke in X-men Evolution and now with Aqualad in Young Justice, if I didn't know better you would think the streets are full young black guys with blonde hair who secretly want to be Sysko for Dru Hill. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Way OT: Polanski Rumoured to Have Appealed to Obama
Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Polanski's affair with the 13 yr old was turned into a huge media circus in California after a particular DA got hold to it. Frankly I think he got a free pass after what happened to his wife. (His wife was Sharon Tate who was killed by the Manson family. She was pregnant at the time.) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lessee...two whole months in a Swiss prison? Well, hell, that's enough: everyone knows the reputation of the fierce Swiss prison system. Almost as bad as Russia, South Africa, or America! Besides, dude spent over a month in detention here in the States. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment! I can't imagine why everyone doesn't just let him go about his business... And to think, Michael Vick has served more time--and apparently endured more scorn and moral outrage--for dogfighting... *** http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-19/polanski-begs-obama-for-mercy/?cmpid=p_yahoo In an astonishing act of backroom international diplomacy, French President Nicolas Sarkozy hand-delivered a letter from fugitive Oscar-winning filmmaker Roman Polanski to President Barack Obama last week on the sidelines of the international anti-nuke proliferation summit in Washington, according to a small and little-noticed articlehttp://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/indiscrets/la-lettre-de-polanski-a-obama_884410.htmlembedded in the prestigious French political magazine, L’Express. It is unclear what Polanski or President Sarkozy, for that matter, think that Obama might be able or willing to do for a man who has acknowledged giving a Quaalude and champagne to a 13-year-old girl he then sodomized. Talk about dropping a stink bomb. The Polanski letter, which is not directly quoted in L’Express’ article, is said to suggest that the two months the aging director spent in a Swiss prison—in addition to the 47 days that he spent in detention in California in 1977—should suffice for the crime of unlawful sexual intercourse he pled guilty to. (Polanski is now under house arrest at his chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland while authorities seek his extradition to the United States.) * * Polanski’s letter also suggests that extraditing the Polish-born filmmaker (who became a French citizen in the 1970s) would do little more than feed the appetite of the American media that he believes just wants to humiliate him. It is unclear what Polanski or President Sarkozy, for that matter, think Obama might be able or willing to do for a man who has acknowledged giving a Quaalude and champagne to a 13-year-old girl who he then sodomized. Politically, pre-conviction clemency for Polanski might spark outrage along the lines of the infamous Marc Rich pardon (and it could only be ordered by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger), and personally it is difficult to imagine the American president helping a man who used drugs and alcohol to manipulate a girl who was only a few years older than the Obamas' eldest daughter into sex. L’Express’ article, by Renaud Revel, is barely more than 100 words in length and it has garnered almost no attention in the French press, where Sarkozy has little desire to be seen as a diplomatic mailman for an aging pedophile, especially to his core conservative supporters who are increasingly unsatisfied with his presidency, both in substance and in style. The French media’s caution is understandable given Sarkozy’s influence over much of France's traditional media; he plays a dominant role in choosing the heads of state-run media, while privately held publications tend to be owned by his friends and supporters. It is unclear how Polanski's letter actually reached President Sarkozy's hands, but a number of possibilities stand out: Polanski’s wife, the femme fatale actress-turned-pop singer Emmanuelle Seigner, who is a generation younger than he, is a contemporary of supermodel-turned-pop singer-turned-first lady, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy. The Polanski-Sarkozy connection may also have been made by Minister of Culture Frédéric Mitterrand, who was initially an extremely vocal Polanski defender. Mitterrand argued that he should be immediately set free after Swiss police grabbed him on his way to receive a lifetime achievement award. Mitterrand largely went silent on the issue after elements from his own past came back to haunt him. (In 2005, he authored a book, *The Bad Life*, that details, among other things, the narrator’s louche quest for sexual gratification with paid “boys” in Thailand. Scenes from the book—which is slated for release in English this week—were read out of context as part of accusations that Mitterrand was an apologist for pedophilia, or worse. He insisted that “boys” referred to young adults, and he suggested that
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum
All I sense in his work is a genuine distrust of politics in general; a contrarian point of view, maybe. I am an Obama supporter but I am also not behind the way he conducts his presidency. In one breath I can lambast his centrist approach to policy and then give him kudos on ...maybe Healthcare I applaud Card for his opinionated and spear sharp criticisms. Some people just refuse to let the other foot drop. c w m On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Wow, that's sad, but, given Card's Mormon background, guess it's not surprising. (No offense to any Mormons here who may want to disavow me of my sentiment). No matter what anyone says, I think there's a strong racist component to all the hatred towards Obama. Everyone keeps saying it's his liberalism (which is funny, 'cause he's more left of center than most liberals), his financial excesses (which Bush started with the first bailout), his making America less safe (by following a nuclear reduction path that Reagan himself endorsed back in the day). It's the economy, stupid, all the opponents like to say. They conveniently forget that Obama was given increased Secret Service protection *before* he even won the Democratic nomination...that he was being called a traitor before he had negotiated a single treaty...that Birthers said he wasn't a real American before he'd even started debating McCain. Obama, like any President, has modified and changed some of his positions over the years. The only thing about him that has remained the absolute same over this whole time is his skin color. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:40:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum The usual right wing playbook. Not qualified, too liberal, dangerous for the country, blah, blah, blah. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Kinda wild when a scifi/futurist who's written stories about a world where Natives weren't conquered by Europe has homophobia. But then, scifi is chock full of prejudices and fears, and I guess those of us with that Star Trek Man will get better eye toward the future might even be in the minority. What has Card said about Obama? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:14:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum All of the above and more. He's written some very homophobic things and his take on President Obama is pretty interesting. He claims that he's a Democrat but has been hyper-critical of Obama from the very beginning and been very alarmist about all of the actions he's taken since he became president. Very Tea Partyish in some ways. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I haven't read a Card book in twenty years. But, why is he on the avoided list? Is there something about his Mormon (?) background and how it influences his writings? Disrespect for people of color or other non-whites? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:48:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum That makes me remember when I used to like OSC. He's another author on the to be avoided list. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I've heard mixed views, but never a good synopsis, thanks. What you presented made it sound like a great premise. I love the idea of hypersleep causing such problems. I may check it out. How does it compare to another scifi film I really love, Event Horizon? I know that latter is much more of a horror-focused scifi film. As for hypersleep, I remember reading a book by Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game, among many others). It postulated a fascinating world in which people who were deemed absolutely critical to humanity (great politicians, wealthy financiers, brilliant scientists, etc.) would skip generations. A person of sufficient means would live among humanity for a few years, doing whatever he or she did for a living. Then, that person would go into suspended animation for a time. As an example, Steve Jobs might run Apple for three years, set its future course, then go into suspended animation for twenty or thirty years. He'd wake up, get the lay of the land, do some more work, then back into the routine. If you think about it, it's a cool way to be granted a sort of immortality, as you can skip across the centuries, experiencing and influencing human development.
[scifinoir2] C2E2 - Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo
Is anyone on thelist headed there this weekend? Sent on the go from my Peek
Re: [scifinoir2] Pandorum
The movie was kinda bad...real talk. Decent actors, bad premise...mediocre execution. Us sci fi nerds like to dissect all the cool stuff form our favorite genre but its all about the total execution. There was one surprise near the end that made it not a complete waste but those native ship monsters were sad. The synopsis above sounds like a good moviewhen is it coming out..lol c w m On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I've heard mixed views, but never a good synopsis, thanks. What you presented made it sound like a great premise. I love the idea of hypersleep causing such problems. I may check it out. How does it compare to another scifi film I really love, Event Horizon? I know that latter is much more of a horror-focused scifi film. As for hypersleep, I remember reading a book by Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game, among many others). It postulated a fascinating world in which people who were deemed absolutely critical to humanity (great politicians, wealthy financiers, brilliant scientists, etc.) would skip generations. A person of sufficient means would live among humanity for a few years, doing whatever he or she did for a living. Then, that person would go into suspended animation for a time. As an example, Steve Jobs might run Apple for three years, set its future course, then go into suspended animation for twenty or thirty years. He'd wake up, get the lay of the land, do some more work, then back into the routine. If you think about it, it's a cool way to be granted a sort of immortality, as you can skip across the centuries, experiencing and influencing human development. The only problem is that the sleeper's mind is bubbled into a storage device before the body is put under. If something happened to that device, the sleeper would be rendered little more than a body with no mind, akin to a newborn babe, albeit in an adult's body. In one story, that very thing happens with a colony ship to another planet. There's an accident, all the crew's bubbles are destroyed, and the one guy who was awake is left with trying to retrain and re-educate all the now completely blank people. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:52:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Pandorum Has anyone seen this movie? I was pleasantly surprised. Don't get me wrong it's not great but it was interesting and pretty well executed. Long story short: An Earthlike exoplanet called Tanis is discovered in the early 21st century. A probe using an advanced drive is sent there, finds that it's very, very Earthlike and can support life. 22nd century Earth is massively overpopulated, resources are dwindling, etc. A generation ship called the Elysium is built by all nations and 60,000 volunteers set off for Tanis. The journey will take 123 years so multiple crews rotate in two year shifts and go into hypersleep the rest of the time. Hypersleep is a tough process and people wake up with memory loss, mild sickness, etc. Some folks develop a severe type of sickness called pandorum. Another deep space Earth ship suffered a massive disaster when a pandorum affected crew member jettisoned all of the ship's hyperspace modules, killed the remaining crew and then himself. A crewman on the Elysium wakes up out of hypersleep for his 2 year shift. He's out of it, doesn't remember his name, etc. He reads his name off his sleep pod and begins to remember that he is ship's engineer Bower. A second crewman, Lt. Payton, awakens and they realize that they are the only people from their shift that are awake. The power is down and they are cutoff from the rest of ship. The reactor is out of synch and needs to be repaired before the ship's power can be restored. Bower grabs some tools and sets off to restore the power. Then the fun begins. I was surprised at how much I liked the movie. There were a few things that strained logic but it's a fun, scary movie with a healthy dose of semihard sci fi. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum
The accelerated evolution is part of the science that they need to sell us on. We have seen scary aliens before...spend time on stuff people have not seen before. When i want to watch Alien, or Aliens again ill just pop it in. I shouldnt have to watch it in other moviesover and over and over.. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:46 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Why did you think the premise was bad? The execution was bit uneven at times and the accelerated evolution (aided by the serum and high radiation levels) required a bit of suspension of belief but I enjoyed it. I loved the ship design and the dirty, working machine feel of it. BTW the monsters were my least favorite part of it. I think the movie would have been just as effective if the antagonists were pandorum stricken humans gone cannibal like a certain character. Keith, On the surface Event Horizon seems like a good comparison but there are no supernatural elements in Pandorum. I think it could have been an even better film but I liked the world building and the premise. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: The movie was kinda bad...real talk. Decent actors, bad premise...mediocre execution. Us sci fi nerds like to dissect all the cool stuff form our favorite genre but its all about the total execution. There was one surprise near the end that made it not a complete waste but those native ship monsters were sad. The synopsis above sounds like a good moviewhen is it coming out..lol c w m On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: I've heard mixed views, but never a good synopsis, thanks. What you presented made it sound like a great premise. I love the idea of hypersleep causing such problems. I may check it out. How does it compare to another scifi film I really love, Event Horizon? I know that latter is much more of a horror-focused scifi film. As for hypersleep, I remember reading a book by Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game, among many others). It postulated a fascinating world in which people who were deemed absolutely critical to humanity (great politicians, wealthy financiers, brilliant scientists, etc.) would skip generations. A person of sufficient means would live among humanity for a few years, doing whatever he or she did for a living. Then, that person would go into suspended animation for a time. As an example, Steve Jobs might run Apple for three years, set its future course, then go into suspended animation for twenty or thirty years. He'd wake up, get the lay of the land, do some more work, then back into the routine. If you think about it, it's a cool way to be granted a sort of immortality, as you can skip across the centuries, experiencing and influencing human development. The only problem is that the sleeper's mind is bubbled into a storage device before the body is put under. If something happened to that device, the sleeper would be rendered little more than a body with no mind, akin to a newborn babe, albeit in an adult's body. In one story, that very thing happens with a colony ship to another planet. There's an accident, all the crew's bubbles are destroyed, and the one guy who was awake is left with trying to retrain and re-educate all the now completely blank people. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:52:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Pandorum Has anyone seen this movie? I was pleasantly surprised. Don't get me wrong it's not great but it was interesting and pretty well executed. Long story short: An Earthlike exoplanet called Tanis is discovered in the early 21st century. A probe using an advanced drive is sent there, finds that it's very, very Earthlike and can support life. 22nd century Earth is massively overpopulated, resources are dwindling, etc. A generation ship called the Elysium is built by all nations and 60,000 volunteers set off for Tanis. The journey will take 123 years so multiple crews rotate in two year shifts and go into hypersleep the rest of the time. Hypersleep is a tough process and people wake up with memory loss, mild sickness, etc. Some folks develop a severe type of sickness called pandorum. Another deep space Earth ship suffered a massive disaster when a pandorum affected crew member jettisoned all of the ship's hyperspace modules, killed the remaining crew and then himself. A crewman on the Elysium wakes up out of hypersleep for his 2 year shift. He's out of it, doesn't remember his name, etc. He reads his name off his sleep pod and begins to remember that he is ship's engineer Bower. A second
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum
Only one of them really had it...and it wasnt a key part of the story nor was it important to the story...steeming pile of dissapointment...from start to finish (save like 2 scenes)... On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:56 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: That's where we differ. I thought the hunters were incidental. I thought the real meat was the pandorum sickness itself and the big reveal. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: The accelerated evolution is part of the science that they need to sell us on. We have seen scary aliens before...spend time on stuff people have not seen before. When i want to watch Alien, or Aliens again ill just pop it in. I shouldnt have to watch it in other moviesover and over and over.. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:46 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Why did you think the premise was bad? The execution was bit uneven at times and the accelerated evolution (aided by the serum and high radiation levels) required a bit of suspension of belief but I enjoyed it. I loved the ship design and the dirty, working machine feel of it. BTW the monsters were my least favorite part of it. I think the movie would have been just as effective if the antagonists were pandorum stricken humans gone cannibal like a certain character. Keith, On the surface Event Horizon seems like a good comparison but there are no supernatural elements in Pandorum. I think it could have been an even better film but I liked the world building and the premise. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: The movie was kinda bad...real talk. Decent actors, bad premise...mediocre execution. Us sci fi nerds like to dissect all the cool stuff form our favorite genre but its all about the total execution. There was one surprise near the end that made it not a complete waste but those native ship monsters were sad. The synopsis above sounds like a good moviewhen is it coming out..lol c w m On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@wrote: I've heard mixed views, but never a good synopsis, thanks. What you presented made it sound like a great premise. I love the idea of hypersleep causing such problems. I may check it out. How does it compare to another scifi film I really love, Event Horizon? I know that latter is much more of a horror-focused scifi film. As for hypersleep, I remember reading a book by Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game, among many others). It postulated a fascinating world in which people who were deemed absolutely critical to humanity (great politicians, wealthy financiers, brilliant scientists, etc.) would skip generations. A person of sufficient means would live among humanity for a few years, doing whatever he or she did for a living. Then, that person would go into suspended animation for a time. As an example, Steve Jobs might run Apple for three years, set its future course, then go into suspended animation for twenty or thirty years. He'd wake up, get the lay of the land, do some more work, then back into the routine. If you think about it, it's a cool way to be granted a sort of immortality, as you can skip across the centuries, experiencing and influencing human development. The only problem is that the sleeper's mind is bubbled into a storage device before the body is put under. If something happened to that device, the sleeper would be rendered little more than a body with no mind, akin to a newborn babe, albeit in an adult's body. In one story, that very thing happens with a colony ship to another planet. There's an accident, all the crew's bubbles are destroyed, and the one guy who was awake is left with trying to retrain and re-educate all the now completely blank people. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:52:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Pandorum Has anyone seen this movie? I was pleasantly surprised. Don't get me wrong it's not great but it was interesting and pretty well executed. Long story short: An Earthlike exoplanet called Tanis is discovered in the early 21st century. A probe using an advanced drive is sent there, finds that it's very, very Earthlike and can support life. 22nd century Earth is massively overpopulated, resources are dwindling, etc. A generation ship
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum
You cant be a Democrat and be critical of Obama? That is new to me. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:14 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: All of the above and more. He's written some very homophobic things and his take on President Obama is pretty interesting. He claims that he's a Democrat but has been hyper-critical of Obama from the very beginning and been very alarmist about all of the actions he's taken since he became president. Very Tea Partyish in some ways. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I haven't read a Card book in twenty years. But, why is he on the avoided list? Is there something about his Mormon (?) background and how it influences his writings? Disrespect for people of color or other non-whites? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:48:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Pandorum That makes me remember when I used to like OSC. He's another author on the to be avoided list. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I've heard mixed views, but never a good synopsis, thanks. What you presented made it sound like a great premise. I love the idea of hypersleep causing such problems. I may check it out. How does it compare to another scifi film I really love, Event Horizon? I know that latter is much more of a horror-focused scifi film. As for hypersleep, I remember reading a book by Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game, among many others). It postulated a fascinating world in which people who were deemed absolutely critical to humanity (great politicians, wealthy financiers, brilliant scientists, etc.) would skip generations. A person of sufficient means would live among humanity for a few years, doing whatever he or she did for a living. Then, that person would go into suspended animation for a time. As an example, Steve Jobs might run Apple for three years, set its future course, then go into suspended animation for twenty or thirty years. He'd wake up, get the lay of the land, do some more work, then back into the routine. If you think about it, it's a cool way to be granted a sort of immortality, as you can skip across the centuries, experiencing and influencing human development. The only problem is that the sleeper's mind is bubbled into a storage device before the body is put under. If something happened to that device, the sleeper would be rendered little more than a body with no mind, akin to a newborn babe, albeit in an adult's body. In one story, that very thing happens with a colony ship to another planet. There's an accident, all the crew's bubbles are destroyed, and the one guy who was awake is left with trying to retrain and re-educate all the now completely blank people. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:52:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Pandorum Has anyone seen this movie? I was pleasantly surprised. Don't get me wrong it's not great but it was interesting and pretty well executed. Long story short: An Earthlike exoplanet called Tanis is discovered in the early 21st century. A probe using an advanced drive is sent there, finds that it's very, very Earthlike and can support life. 22nd century Earth is massively overpopulated, resources are dwindling, etc. A generation ship called the Elysium is built by all nations and 60,000 volunteers set off for Tanis. The journey will take 123 years so multiple crews rotate in two year shifts and go into hypersleep the rest of the time. Hypersleep is a tough process and people wake up with memory loss, mild sickness, etc. Some folks develop a severe type of sickness called pandorum. Another deep space Earth ship suffered a massive disaster when a pandorum affected crew member jettisoned all of the ship's hyperspace modules, killed the remaining crew and then himself. A crewman on the Elysium wakes up out of hypersleep for his 2 year shift. He's out of it, doesn't remember his name, etc. He reads his name off his sleep pod and begins to remember that he is ship's engineer Bower. A second crewman, Lt. Payton, awakens and they realize that they are the only people from their shift that are awake. The power is down and they are cutoff from the rest of ship. The reactor is out of synch and needs to be repaired before the ship's power can be restored. Bower grabs some tools and sets off to restore the power. Then the fun begins. I was surprised at how much I liked the movie. There were a few things that strained logic but it's a fun, scary movie with a healthy dose of
Re: [scifinoir2] Conan O’Brien's new show airing o n TBS in November
I just realized that he would get canceled if he was on FOX cause they are trigger happy.. c w m On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: [?][?][?][?] I think this could be the beginning of a beautiful run on TBS. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: “If you haven’t heard by now, Conan O’Brien will be joining us on late night on TBS. Welcome! Welcome!” according to an early transcript of the show, released by TBS. “I want to say that I am completely 100% on board with this move. I talked to Conan on Wednesday and I talked to him last night and I said I welcome you into my deep loving embrace. Then I said let’s take the party and make it bigger … everybody’s heard of ‘I’m with CoCo’ but now everybody can ‘Go LoCo’.” The O’Brien hire also provided lots of comedy fodder for Lopez’ guest, Chris Rock. Here’s a sampling of his exchange with Lopez: *Lopez*: “I think you’re here on a good night…with Conan coming to TBS…” *Rock:* “Conan’s coming? Where are you going?” *Lopez:* “I’m staying. I’m going to midnight. He’s coming at eleven o’clock and I’m going to midnight.” *Rock:* “Get the hell out of here! So you’re gonna move for the white man, huh? I hope he appreciates this.” *Lopez:* “I think the white man does appreciate it very much.” *Rock:* “You don’t gotta clean a park or nothing, right?” *Lopez:* “No and I get to go to work an hour later. That’s a Latino dream come true.” -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com 360.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] True Blood Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video
The DL trend is something homegrown out of black culture. Sympathetic assassins that are in many ways evil and in the same ways victims themselves. Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: A few years back I think a bi woman would have been more controversial, but nowadays it isn't as shocking. Bi and gay men still have problems though especially in the black community. The DL brothas is a completely different issue though. Some of them do not categorize themselves as gay or bi more from denial than from anything else. (this is based mostly from conversations that I had with a few of them in the early 2000s) One person in particular hadn't had a relationship with a woman for 10 years but still considered himself straight. Let's not talk about the complete denial of not practicing safe sex. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.comwrote: people keep getting this wrong if you're bi that means you do both. best example the ole down loe brothas. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointed men out there now! As for Ricky Martin: file it in the Worst Kept Secret folder. I think Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... *** 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM Anna Paquin Jordan Strauss/WireImage Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's announcementhttp://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/on his personal blog that he's gay, True Blood http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147 star Anna Paquinhttp://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335 used an unusual mediumhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428of her own to announce that she is bisexual. Alongside celebrities such as Elton Johnhttp://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894, Clay Aiken http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678, and Wanda Sykes http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103, Paquin declared her sexual orientationhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexualin a public service announcement for Cyndi Lauper http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182's Give a Damn Campaign http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/, which promotes equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 at 9 a.m. EST. What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made the revelation. A second PSA features Sex and the Cityhttp://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205 actor Cynthia Nixonhttp://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088(who came out in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon), Jason Mraz, Kim Kardashian http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832, and Sharon http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868 and Kelly Osbourne http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850. Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the traditional coming out People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and Lance Bass http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638 -- and instead controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement at the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much attention, in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly afterhttp://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshellthe news broke of Paquin's statement. Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in history when she won for best supporting actress for The Piano -- has been notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically linkedhttp://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428with actor Kieran Culkin http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918. In August 2009, she and True Blood costar Stephen Moyerhttp://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265announced their engagement. The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently promoting the
Re: [scifinoir2] Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
That is a problem? Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The only problem I had with the movie was that the bad guys seemed stronger. For example almost all of the bad guys with the exception of the speedster and owlman had strength equal to superman. I did like the concept of the bad guy mafia though. :) On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: Omari, I totally agree! --- On *Tue, 3/2/10, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 5:08 PM Best dc animated flick hands down Sent on the go from my Peek - - --- Martin Baxtertruthseeker013@ hotmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=truthseeker013%40hotmail.com wrote: I'm going hunting for it tomorrow. _ _ _ _ _ _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469229/ direct/01/http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Freaknik the musical
Superjail is awesome. Think of it as fritz the cat for the modern ageso ulta violent and nuanced that it borders on insanity. Sent on the go from my Peek - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Superjail is just filler. They only made a few episodes because they are hand drawn. I'm not sure why they are still airing it though. They could re-air dragonball z or something. Even season one of robot chicken would be a better choice. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Ey-U! Can't handle SuperJail either. Woke up one night and saw part of that, and didn't sleep for two days. Martin (yawned through a couple of the Saw movies) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:02:38 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Freaknik the musical Oh Martin, I didn't G to Freaknik! I was appalled by it as well... However it's like SuperJail, I don't want to go to jail but i find the cartoon highly entertaining (when I'm not grossed out by it). *Aubrey Leatherwood *www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 * MySpacehttp://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood Dime http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? *Imperfection* http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:57:07 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Freaknik the musical Aubrey, when I saw it, I had the polar-opposite of reactions to yours. When I first moved to Atlanta, and my late Uncle David, living here at the time, told me tha tthis was coming, I went back to Virginia for the duration, so as NOT to be in the vicinity. My TV will NOT be troubled by this piece of dreck. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:26:03 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Freaknik the musical I am an adult-swim junkie and well... when I starting seeing the trailers for this... it made me, well, gleeful :) *Aubrey Leatherwood *www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 * MySpacehttp://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood Dime http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? *Imperfection* http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 -- To: bombcherryju...@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 02:24:44 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Freaknik the musical Every now and then the Cartoon Network's Adult Swim does something unusual for Black people. Well this year they are airing Freaknik an hour long animation with the voices of Snoop, T-Pain, Rick Ross, Young Cash and others. It should be pretty crazy. Here's the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXo_1ba34aENR=1 Here is some info on it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTzCofp68g The show airs Sunday, March 7th at 11:30pm on the Cartoon Network -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM
RE: [scifinoir2] Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
Best dc animated flick hands down Sent on the go from my Peek - Martin Baxtertruthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm going hunting for it tomorrow. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Software gives Ebert his voice back
I swear I heard that they found some new procedure that would bring his actual voice back.i used to bump into him and his wife at Bulls gameshope I see him again. Sent on the go from my Peek - Tracy Curtistlcurti...@gmail.com wrote: I always worry about such things. But with Ebert, they synthesized this voice from all of his movie reviews. Most of us don't have that much recording of ourselves. It's not clear to me how much it would take. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great thing for Ebert. The bad thing about the technology is that they are unleashing onto the world a technology that will make it difficult in the near future to tell what is real and what isn't audio wise. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: That is GREAT. ;-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:08:51 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Software gives Ebert his voice back www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-0227-ebert-voice-20100226,0,3083464.story chicagotribune.com Technology giving Ebert his voice back Software uses audio from DVD commentaries to let critic sound like himself again By Gerry Smith, Tribune reporter 8:14 PM CST, February 26, 2010 Nearly four years after a battle with thyroid cancer robbed him of the ability to speak, iconic film critic Roger Ebert sounded like his former self Friday during a taping of The Oprah Winfrey Show, the show's producer said. It was no medical miracle, but rather a demonstration of new software using audio recordings of Ebert to create a synthetic voice that sounds like his own. CereProc, a company based in Edinburgh, Scotland, created the voice for him using mostly audio of Ebert's DVD commentaries on Citizen Kane and Casablanca. The company's technology allows Ebert to sound more natural than other text to speech software — even allowing for a range of emotions. Roger has many years of experience in broadcasting, said Matthew Aylett, chief technical officer for CereProc. Obviously we couldn't record him but he did have a lot of audio material we could use to build his voice. The company has used the technology — which turns text typed by the user into sound — to build voices of other famous people, including former President George W. Bush on a satirical Web site. But this is the first time the company has produced a synthetic voice that sounds like the old voice of the person using it, Aylett said. Ebert could not be reached for comment Friday, but in a blog post last summer, he described his frustrations with trying to communicate. After his second surgery, Ebert learned he would no longer be able to speak and started writing notes, he wrote in an August 2009 blog entry. But he found that took too long to keep up with normal conversation. There is a point when a zinger is perfectly timed, and a point when it is pointless, Ebert said. At the time, the Chicago Sun-Times film critic said he had been experimenting with synthetic voice software made by other companies. He tried a voice named Lawrence, which had a British accent, and more recently a voice named Alex, which had an American accent that sounded more natural because it recognized punctuation marks, Ebert wrote on his blog. But he still hoped to sound more like himself, particularly at public appearances, he said. On those occasions I've appeared in public or on TV with a computer voice, I nevertheless sound like Robby the Robot, he wrote on his blog. Eloquence and intonation are impossible. I dream of hearing a voice something like my own. The taping of Ebert on Oprah, which will air Tuesday, includes him giving the talk show host his 2010 Oscar picks and allowing her cameras to follow him for a day, the show's producer said. While Ebert's new voice sounds like his own, it occasionally makes errors, Aylett said. In particular, the software has difficulty pronouncing unusual proper names and sometimes fails to make intonation sound natural, he said. It sounds like him, he said. But it will sound better as we add more audio information to it. The more data we have, the smoother and the more accurate the voice will become. On its Web site, CereProc says it provides voices that sound real and have character. To build Ebert's voice, the company is using between three and five hours of his voice recordings and cutting them into numerous small units of sound. The software also allows for users to insert emotions, from anger to happiness. The latter would seem to best describe Ebert's reaction to the software's possibilities. Last summer, after
Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life
I was a fan of the series in a past life. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not a fan. To be fair, I wasn't sold on the premise or the promotions for it, so I never got around to watching. *Aubrey Leatherwood *www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 * MySpacehttp://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood Dime http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? *Imperfection* http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:45 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222 Any Past Life fans? The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past life in ancient Rome. Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season. http://www.fox.com/pastlife/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie: Primer
Um.I dont know what movie your talking about...but the something wrong is a a bit different than you are selling it. But it is one of the best time travel movies of all time. Period. c w m On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Primer is a low budget indie film about two engineers that create a time travel device in their garage. Everything is great until they discover something wrong that happens in their future not of their own doing. This award winning film takes a methodical approach to time travel and how it could possibly work from an engineer's point of view. Has anyone seen this little film? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Intro Tracy, Madison, WI
Hello Tracy... On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Tracy Curtis tlcurti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before. My name is Tracy. (I'm a female Tracy) I'm currently living in Madison, WI where I have a university job. I joined initially because one of my students is working on a project that involves science fiction, speculative fiction and revisions of high school curriculum. I'm teaching a class right now that involves some science fiction along with some speculative fiction, horror, and philosophy. I've been enjoying your talks, but hadn't joined in at all because I had not properly introduced myself. Sorry about the delay. Things have been (and remain) a bit hectic. So here's my template! Tracy 1. Name: Tracy Curtis 2. Location: Madison, WI 3. Nickname/ Alias: 4. To which Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify When I was a kid, I really identified with the girl from *Escape to Witch Mountain* because I wanted to be able to move things with my mind. I was struck by Dana's predicament in Octavia Butler's *Kindred*. 5. Favorite SciFi Genres: near future speculation 6. Favorite Scifi Movies *Event Horizon, Brother from Another Planet*, *Tank Girl*,*Aliens*,* Last Angel of History* 7. Favorite SciFi TV or Online Shows ((canceled shows ok)* X-Files, Warehouse 13* 8. Favorite SciFi Producers and Directors 9. Favorite SciFi Characters 10. Favorite SciFi Villain: 11. Favorite SciFi Comics and Graphic Novels I'm not good at reading these. I'm trying more. 12. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Book: 13. Favorite SciFi Film or TV Adaptation of a Comic or Graphic Novel: 14. Favorite SciFi Film movie (s) that flopped: 15. Your SciFi Favorite TVShow (s)that was/were canceled unfairly: Freaky Links, Invasion 16. Favorite Speculative Fiction Books: 17. Favorite Speculative Fiction Authors: 18. List speculative fiction stereotyped scenarios or characters that irk you: 19. Other topics of importance to you: With my class, I've been curious about how readers of various backgrounds take in works with no white characters. 20. List your own published works, if any: - nothing related 21. Your web site: 22. Favorite Scifi Web Sites: ~Tell us anything else you think is important: On the subject line, type the word Intro: “ and then add your name and city. Now post your introduction at scifino...@yahoogroups.com. Once Again, Welcome to SciFiNoir Sample subject line: Intro Kathy AKA Kat, Chicago, IL -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes?
Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off Sherlock. Plain and simple. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: After seeing the movie last Sunday, I was wondering about the casting. Downey and Law are really good, but why did Ritchie cast them that way? Law, who's taller, a bit leaner, and has a bit more of an intensely thoughtful look, would seem at first glance to be the natural choice to play Holmes. At least, he probably on the surface appears closer to the tall, lean, serious Holmes of all those movies i saw as a kid. Downey, with his shorter stature, lined, worn face, large expressive eyes, and tendency to look comical, serious,and slightly off all at once, would seem to be a good fit for a slightly comedic Watson--the guy who comments/critiques/jokes from the sidelines as the oh-so-serious Holmes goes about solving the crimes. Indeed, i can see a time before Downey's return to such lofty heights, where another director would probably think it natural to cast the dapper and handsome Law as Holmes, and the quixotic Downey as his funny sidekick. Wonder how such a movie would have turned out? Would the casting have dictated a more traditional take on the characters? Would Rithie's slight twist on the traditional movie treatments of the characters still have worked if the roles had been switched? -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes?
Dep would not work in guy ritchie's version but i can see him in some other incarnation. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. It would have been completely different. There is something quirky about Downey that makes it work. That X factor thing. I wonder if Johnny Depp would have worked in the role? On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off Sherlock. Plain and simple. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: After seeing the movie last Sunday, I was wondering about the casting. Downey and Law are really good, but why did Ritchie cast them that way? Law, who's taller, a bit leaner, and has a bit more of an intensely thoughtful look, would seem at first glance to be the natural choice to play Holmes. At least, he probably on the surface appears closer to the tall, lean, serious Holmes of all those movies i saw as a kid. Downey, with his shorter stature, lined, worn face, large expressive eyes, and tendency to look comical, serious,and slightly off all at once, would seem to be a good fit for a slightly comedic Watson--the guy who comments/critiques/jokes from the sidelines as the oh-so-serious Holmes goes about solving the crimes. Indeed, i can see a time before Downey's return to such lofty heights, where another director would probably think it natural to cast the dapper and handsome Law as Holmes, and the quixotic Downey as his funny sidekick. Wonder how such a movie would have turned out? Would the casting have dictated a more traditional take on the characters? Would Rithie's slight twist on the traditional movie treatments of the characters still have worked if the roles had been switched? -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes?
Stoic wont play to modern audiences in the way they wanted. Unless your making a Merchat Ivory filmcomplicated is the way to go. The protag needs to be vulnerable and unstoppable.Downy is perfect. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: But back to my point, is Holmes in the books as emotionally complicated as Downey's portrayal? The movies I've seen all have Holmes are more stoic than Downey. Not a Vulcan or anything, but more controlled. So, do you think Law in the role would have dictated a less demonstrative Holmes? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:03:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes? Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off Sherlock. Plain and simple. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: After seeing the movie last Sunday, I was wondering about the casting. Downey and Law are really good, but why did Ritchie cast them that way? Law, who's taller, a bit leaner, and has a bit more of an intensely thoughtful look, would seem at first glance to be the natural choice to play Holmes. At least, he probably on the surface appears closer to the tall, lean, serious Holmes of all those movies i saw as a kid. Downey, with his shorter stature, lined, worn face, large expressive eyes, and tendency to look comical, serious,and slightly off all at once, would seem to be a good fit for a slightly comedic Watson--the guy who comments/critiques/jokes from the sidelines as the oh-so-serious Holmes goes about solving the crimes. Indeed, i can see a time before Downey's return to such lofty heights, where another director would probably think it natural to cast the dapper and handsome Law as Holmes, and the quixotic Downey as his funny sidekick. Wonder how such a movie would have turned out? Would the casting have dictated a more traditional take on the characters? Would Rithie's slight twist on the traditional movie treatments of the characters still have worked if the roles had been switched? -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes?
Stoic is the main reason Pirates plays better than Sweeny Todd(and the fact that there are pirates...but i digress) On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I disagree that stoic won't play to modern audiences, but that's a convo for another day. I already ranted about my frustration with all this modern audiences won't talk earlier. Either way, my main questions really are based on how true to the source material Ritchie's film was. I had a good time at the film, could watch it again, and look forward to a sequel. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:03:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes? Stoic wont play to modern audiences in the way they wanted. Unless your making a Merchat Ivory filmcomplicated is the way to go. The protag needs to be vulnerable and unstoppable.Downy is perfect. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: But back to my point, is Holmes in the books as emotionally complicated as Downey's portrayal? The movies I've seen all have Holmes are more stoic than Downey. Not a Vulcan or anything, but more controlled. So, do you think Law in the role would have dictated a less demonstrative Holmes? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:03:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What if Actors' Roles were Switched in Sherlock Holmes? Law doesnt have the emotional depth to pull off Sherlock. Plain and simple. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: After seeing the movie last Sunday, I was wondering about the casting. Downey and Law are really good, but why did Ritchie cast them that way? Law, who's taller, a bit leaner, and has a bit more of an intensely thoughtful look, would seem at first glance to be the natural choice to play Holmes. At least, he probably on the surface appears closer to the tall, lean, serious Holmes of all those movies i saw as a kid. Downey, with his shorter stature, lined, worn face, large expressive eyes, and tendency to look comical, serious,and slightly off all at once, would seem to be a good fit for a slightly comedic Watson--the guy who comments/critiques/jokes from the sidelines as the oh-so-serious Holmes goes about solving the crimes. Indeed, i can see a time before Downey's return to such lofty heights, where another director would probably think it natural to cast the dapper and handsome Law as Holmes, and the quixotic Downey as his funny sidekick. Wonder how such a movie would have turned out? Would the casting have dictated a more traditional take on the characters? Would Rithie's slight twist on the traditional movie treatments of the characters still have worked if the roles had been switched? -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Scoop: Forest Whitaker to headline 'Criminal Minds' spin-off!
Hells yeah On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/01/25/forest-whitaker-criminal-minds-spin-off/ Oscar winner Forest Whitaker is nearing a deal to headline CBS’ in-the-works spin-off of *Criminal Minds*, sources confirm to me semi-exclusively. Whitaker would play Cooper, the new team’s fiercely loyal and intensely private leader. A former star profiler in the BAU, Coop’s been off the grid for the last eight years — leaving only a trail of rumors in his wake. *Minds 2.0* will follow the *NCIS*/*NCIS: LA* model in that the new team will be introduced in an episode of *Minds* this spring before being launched into their own show next fall. Seasoned industry professionals like myself refer to it as a “planted” spin-off. This is Whitaker’s first regular TV gig since his mesmerizing turn as Michael Chiklis’ arch-nemesis, Jon Kavanaugh, on *The Shield*. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dexter's Michael C. Hall Has Cancer
I KNOW!!! I still dont believe it. Does she know that he is a serial killer? And that she is his sister? lol c w m On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: It is funny how invested you get in make-believe characters. I still get a little of the yick! factor every time I see that Michael C. Hall (Dexter) is married to Jennifer Carpenter (Debra) his on-screen sister. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Dexter actor Michael C. Hall revealed Wednesday he has been battling cancer, but said he's almost finished with treatment and the disease is in remission. Hall, 38, said in a statement he is lucky to have been diagnosed with the treatable and curable condition - Hodgkin's lymphoma - and thanked his Los Angeles-area medical team for their skill in caring for him. His spokesman, Craig Bankey, said Hall's cancer is in remission but the actor will continue scheduled treatments. Hall plans to go with his wife - and Dexter costar - Jennifer Carpenter to Sunday's Golden Globes, where he's nominated for best dramatic actor and the show as best drama. He also plans to attend the Screen Actors Guild Awards the following Saturday, where Hall and the cast are also nominated. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20336663,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontent -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
hmm I have to sayI am tired of Spiderman rebootsHeroes Reborn.Brand New Day. Spectacular Spiderman. Growing up is apparently boring and of no concern to producers I hate my life. c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura http://movies.ign.com/email.html *January 11, 2010* - Damn, Sam Raimihttp://stars.ign.com/objects/917/917562.html, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the *Spider-Man* franchise, which essentially means that *Spider-Man 4http://movies.ign.com/objects/745/745715.html * is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguirehttp://stars.ign.com/objects/912/912749.htmlis also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying ( *via Twitter* http://twitter.com/sonypictures) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. *Deadline Hollywood*http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-spider-man-4-scrapped-as-is-raimi-and-cast-out-franchise-reboot-planned/'s Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the *Spider-Man*franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of *Spider-Man 4* because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no *Spider-Man 4*. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today. DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise. Points to Sony for making the smart choice here. We've got a call in to Sony right now and we'll update here as soon as we hear back from them! But, dang, this is a big one. *UPDATED:* Here is Sony's official statement on the reboot: Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next *Spider-Man* hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilthttp://stars.ign.com/objects/142/14232557.htmlthat focuses on a teenager dealing with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises. The new chapter in the *Spider-Man* franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Aradhttp://stars.ign.com/objects/914/914925.htmland Laura Ziskin http://stars.ign.com/objects/912/912935.html, will have a new cast and filmmaking team. *Spider-Man 4* was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production. A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three *Spider-Man* films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has
Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses
I will have to admit that they have since made good by methe last year was great for spidey fans...despite having to by 3 titles per month May's wedding and the return of mary jane has sparked the series...but its all relative.. it sucked with a capital uk for a while so this is just back to form.. c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I actually quit reading the Spider books after Brand New Day. I am offended beyond belief that Marvel saw fit to erase his years with Mary Jane from history. The only good thing about it was that it erased that inexplicable, idiotic move where Peter outed himself to the public in order to get support for the Superhuman Registration Act. That led to May's near-fatal shooting, and him and MJ on the run. I think that move was simply to setup a need to get his past erased. It was crap. The suits seem to think that a freewheeling Pete is more appealing to the teen boys I guess they want to target. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:39:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses hmm I have to sayI am tired of Spiderman rebootsHeroes Reborn.Brand New Day. Spectacular Spiderman. Growing up is apparently boring and of no concern to producers I hate my life. c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted more, more, more!, and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as Wolverine: X-Men Origins, definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with Drag Me to Hell showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura http://movies.ign.com/email.html *January 11, 2010* - Damn, Sam Raimihttp://stars.ign.com/objects/917/917562.html, you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the *Spider-Man* franchise, which essentially means that *Spider-Man 4http://movies.ign.com/objects/745/745715.html * is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguirehttp://stars.ign.com/objects/912/912749.htmlis also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying ( *via Twitter* http://twitter.com/sonypictures) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. *Deadline Hollywood*http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-spider-man-4-scrapped-as-is-raimi-and-cast-out-franchise-reboot-planned/'s Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the *Spider-Man*franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of *Spider-Man 4* because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no *Spider-Man 4*. Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today. DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise. Points to Sony for making the smart choice here. We've got a call in to Sony right now and we'll update here
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die
Great news!!! This means that she has a snowball's chance to run for president next go around... Yeah!! c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Forget racist Australian KFC ads, we got the noose-and-burning-cross crowd taking over our own airwaves! In case you mistakenly thought that ignorance, racism, and corrosive fear of change were disappearing any time soon. I just listened to a lengthy Fresh Air interview with a reporter who's written a book on Palin, in which she and her co-writer point out how Palin has told so many inconsisten stories, plays the victim, and is really capable of being nasty and holding a grudge. And this lady works for Fox! Palin reminds me of some of the prejudiced whites I used to go to school with in Texas back in the '70s. They were always full of stuff about real Americans, making casual comments of racism and ignorance, seeing anyone who wasn't some country, cornfed Christian as the other. I didn't enjoy being around those people then, and I lament to see them continue to get public champions and public outlets now. And then there's Harry Reid's use of the word Negro. What decade is he living in? Though i can't argue his basic statement about Obama's skin color helping, give me a break. Post-racial my arse http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_fox_news ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, will take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator, the cable channel announced Monday. I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News, Palin said in a statement posted on the network's Web site. It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news. Fox said that according to the multiyear deal, Palin will offer political commentary and analysis. She also will host occasional episodes of Fox News Real American Stories, a series featuring true inspirational storiesabout Americans. Governor Palin has captivated everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and we are excited to add her dynamic voice to the FOX News lineup, Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming, said in a statement. Palin is hugely popular with conservatives and has more than 1.1 million Facebook followers. She stepped down as Alaska governor in July, 17 months before the end of her first term in office. Her resignation came less than a year after she vaulted to overnight fame as John McCain's running mate. Palin worked part-time as a weekend sportscaster in the 1980s for KTUU-TV in Anchorage. Her upcoming commentary career had her Facebook fans giddy with excitement Monday. Tell 'em like it is girl!!, one poster wrote. Palin finished a nationwide tour in December to promote her best-selling book, Going Rogue. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Avatar watchers.. suicidal depressed???
Um ok. I thought they were talking about titanic...(lol) c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: *From:* Chris de Morsella [mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2010 2:16 PM *To:* tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com *Subject:* Avatar watchers.. suicidal depressed??? http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html *(CNN)* -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle Avatar may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora. On the fan forum site Avatar Forums, a topic thread entitled Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible, has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie. I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy , Baghdassarian said. But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed. A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film. That's all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about 'Avatar.' I guess that helps. It's so hard I can't force myself to think that it's just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na'vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie, Elequin posted. A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site Naviblue that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie. Ever since I went to see 'Avatar' I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it, Mike posted. I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality. Cameron's movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth's resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 7-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na'vi. In their race to mine for Pandora's resources, the humans clash with the Na'vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia. Ivar Hill posts to the Avatar forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-Avatar depression after he first saw the film earlier this month. When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed ... gray. It was like my whole life, everything I've done and worked for, lost its meaning, Hill wrote on the forum. It just seems so ... meaningless. I still don't really see any reason to keep ... doing things at all. I live in a dying world. Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality. One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality, Hill said. Cameron's special effects masterpiece is very lifelike, and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie's 2½-hour running time, which only lends to the separation anxiety some individuals experience when they depart the movie theater. Virtual life is not real life and it never will be, but this is the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far, said Dr. Stephan Quentzel, psychiatrist and Medical Director for the Louis Armstrong Center for Music and Medicine at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. It has taken the best of our technology to create this virtual world and real life will never be as
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die
She has placed herself amoung the punditsthis is not the actions of a presidential hopeful.. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Never underestimate the tenacity of the stupid and of the rednecks. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Let's hope... - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:51:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: AKA, The Thing that Wouldn't Die Great news!!! This means that she has a snowball's chance to run for president next go around... Yeah!! c w m On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Forget racist Australian KFC ads, we got the noose-and-burning-cross crowd taking over our own airwaves! In case you mistakenly thought that ignorance, racism, and corrosive fear of change were disappearing any time soon. I just listened to a lengthy Fresh Air interview with a reporter who's written a book on Palin, in which she and her co-writer point out how Palin has told so many inconsisten stories, plays the victim, and is really capable of being nasty and holding a grudge. And this lady works for Fox! Palin reminds me of some of the prejudiced whites I used to go to school with in Texas back in the '70s. They were always full of stuff about real Americans, making casual comments of racism and ignorance, seeing anyone who wasn't some country, cornfed Christian as the other. I didn't enjoy being around those people then, and I lament to see them continue to get public champions and public outlets now. And then there's Harry Reid's use of the word Negro. What decade is he living in? Though i can't argue his basic statement about Obama's skin color helping, give me a break. Post-racial my arse http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_fox_news ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, will take her conservative message to Fox News as a regular commentator, the cable channel announced Monday. I am thrilled to be joining the great talent and management team at Fox News, Palin said in a statement posted on the network's Web site. It's wonderful to be part of a place that so values fair and balanced news. Fox said that according to the multiyear deal, Palin will offer political commentary and analysis. She also will host occasional episodes of Fox News Real American Stories, a series featuring true inspirational storiesabout Americans. Governor Palin has captivated everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and we are excited to add her dynamic voice to the FOX News lineup, Bill Shine, executive vice president of programming, said in a statement. Palin is hugely popular with conservatives and has more than 1.1 million Facebook followers. She stepped down as Alaska governor in July, 17 months before the end of her first term in office. Her resignation came less than a year after she vaulted to overnight fame as John McCain's running mate. Palin worked part-time as a weekend sportscaster in the 1980s for KTUU-TV in Anchorage. Her upcoming commentary career had her Facebook fans giddy with excitement Monday. Tell 'em like it is girl!!, one poster wrote. Palin finished a nationwide tour in December to promote her best-selling book, Going Rogue. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Discovery news: Is 'Avatar' Racist?
No little about it. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I think Discovery News is a little late on this story. Is 'Avatar' Racist?Decide for yourself whether James Cameron's blockbuster conveys an underlying prejudice. http://omnikool.discovery.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.discovery.com/human/avatar-racism-james-cameron.html/119856641/Top3/default/empty.gif/67504861466b73373169774143466c44?x Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:50 PM ET | content provided by Jesse Washington, Associated Press [image: Is 'Avatar' Racist?] A small, but vocal, group of critics claims that Avatar contains racist themes. Director James Cameron claims the movie is about respecting others' differences. *Courtesy of Twentieth Century Fox* Near the end of the hit film *Avatar*, the villain snarls at the hero, How does it feel to betray your own race? Both men are white, although the hero is inhabiting a blue-skinned, 9-foot-tall, long-tailed alien. Strange as it may seem for a film that pits greedy, immoral humans against noble denizens of a faraway moon, *Avatar* is being criticized by a small but vocal group of people who allege it contains racist themes -- the white hero once again saving the primitive natives. Since the film opened to widespread critical acclaim three weeks ago, hundreds of blog posts, newspaper articles, tweets and YouTube videos have said things such as the film is a fantasy about race told from the point of view of white people and that it reinforces the white Messiah fable. The film's writer and director, James Cameron, says the real theme is about respecting others' differences. In the film (read no further if you don't want the plot spoiled for you) a white, paralyzed Marine, Jake Sully, is mentally linked to an alien's body and set loose on the planet Pandora. His mission: persuade the mystic, nature-loving Na'vi to make way for humans to mine their land for unobtanium, worth $20 million per kilo back home. Like Kevin Costner in *Dances with Wolves* and Tom Cruise in *The Last Samurai* or as far back as Jimmy Stewart in the 1950 Western *Broken Arrow*, Sully soon switches sides. He falls in love with the Na'vi princess and leads the bird-riding, bow-and-arrow-shooting aliens to victory over the white men's spaceships and mega-robots. Adding to the racial dynamic is that the main Na'vi characters are played by actors of color, led by a Dominican, Zoe Saldana, as the princess. The film also is an obvious metaphor for how European settlers in America wiped out the Indians. [image: african-american roots] *WATCH VIDEO: Explore how James Cameron and crew used cutting-edge technology to bring the world of Pandora to life in the blockbuster movie Avatar.* http://news.discovery.com/videos/avatar-making-the-movie/ *Related Links:* -- - *Avatar's 'Pandora' Could be a Reality*http://news.discovery.com/space/avatars-pandora-could-be-a-reality.html - *'Avatar' Too Realistic for Some Fans*http://news.discovery.com/human/avatar-too-realistic-for-some-fans.html - *HowStuffWorks.com: Why do movies cost so much to make?*http://www.howstuffworks.com/movie-cost.htm - *A Look At The Science Of 'Avatar'*http://news.discovery.com/space/a-look-at-the-science-of-avatar.html -- Annalee Newitz, editor-in-chief of the sci-fi Web site io9.com, likened * Avatar* to the recent film *District 9*, in which a white man accidentally becomes an alien and then helps save them, and 1984's *Dune*, in which a white man becomes an alien Messiah. Main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color ... (then) go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed, she wrote. When will whites stop making these movies and start thinking about race in a new way? wrote Newitz, who is white. Black film professor and author Donald Bogle said he can understand why people would be troubled by *Avatar*, although he praised it as a stunning work. A segment of the audience is carrying in the back of its head some sense of movie history, said Bogle, author of *Toms, Coons, Mulattoes, Mammies Bucks: An Interpretive History of Blacks in American Films*. Bogle stopped short, however, of calling the movie racist. It's a film with still a certain kind of distortion, he said. It's a movie that hasn't yet freed itself of old Hollywood traditions, old formulas. Writer/director Cameron, who is white, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that his film asks us to open our eyes and truly see others, respecting them even though they are different, in the hope that we may find a way to prevent conflict and live more harmoniously on this world. I hardly think that is a racist message. Although the *Avatar* debate springs from Hollywood's historical difficulties with race,
Re: [scifinoir2] Bakula, Braugher on TNT's Men of a Certain Age
Looks promising... On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: Keith I am enjoying it too! I miss Frank Pembleton on TV, it's good 2 see him again. Although the brother has picked up some serious weight, ihe is still a very great actor. Bakula's character is a riot! --- On *Mon, 1/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net* wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Bakula, Braugher on TNT's Men of a Certain Age To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 10:11 PM Anyone watch the new TNT series Men of a Certain Age? It deals with the lives of three men dealing with being decidedly middle aged, and then some. Scott Bakula is a womanizing playboy who seems to have a different bed partner every night and seems to love his weed. Ray Romano's the guy separated from his wife, partially due ot his gambling addiction, who can't seem to get over here. And Andre Braugher's the family man who works at a job he hates--car salesman at his overbearing father's dealership-- in order to take care of his family. I've enjoyed the show so far. It's got lots of moments of humour, along with some more serious ones. It's not too heavy handed on the i'm fast getting old angle. I like all the actors, though it's really really weird to see Braugher be under anyone's thumb. I just can't see Frank Pembleton taking guff even from his old man... * * * http://www.tnt. tv/series/ menofacertainage /about/?contentI d=52922http://www..tnt.tv/series/menofacertainage/about/?contentId=52922 *ABOUT MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE *John Lennon once wrote, “Life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans.” For three men entering the second act of their lives, those words are starting to hit home in TNT’s newest original series, MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE. This wry drama stars Emmy® winner Ray Romano (Everybody Loves Raymond), Golden Globe® winner Scott Bakula (Quantum Leap, Star Trek: Enterprise) and Emmy winner Andre Braugher (Homicide: Life on the Street, TNT’s Salem’s Lot). It marks a return to series television for Romano, who created MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE with Everybody Loves Raymond Emmy winner Mike Royce. The two serve as executive producers, along with Rory Rosegarten and Cary Hoffman. MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE explores the unique bonds of male friendship among three men experiencing the changes and challenges of mid-life. They have been best friends since college but now, in their 40s, are navigating through the second act of their lives. Joe (Romano) is a friendly, slightly neurotic, recently separated father of two who had dreams of being a professional golfer. Now he owns and runs a party store. Terry (Bakula) is a laid-back, handsome actor who seems to breeze through life (and women). Lately, he’s spending more time working as a temp than as an actor. And Owen (Braugher) is an overstressed husband and father of three who endures constant criticism from his father, for whom he works as a car salesman. These friends face very different challenges. Joe, who currently lives in a hotel, tries to connect with his kids and is dipping his toe in the dating pool, while also struggling with the gambling problem that may have ended his marriage. The unmarried Terry scoffs at domestic issues but sometimes wonders if his own single life is all it’s cracked up to be. Owen does everything he can to climb the sales board at his father’s car dealership and keep his cool over the seemingly endless renovation project in the home he can barely afford. Through it all, these men are there for each other when it counts. -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Disney bets $4.2 billion on characters including Ant-Man, Dr. Strange
If Iron fist is a viable franchise they will make sure it has the brubaker edge to him.not anything kid related... On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think Iron fist would make a good kids tv show, but I think they already did something like it. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.fresnobee.com/554/story/1762715.html Possibilities include classics such as Ant-Man, the alter-ego of mad scientist Dr. Henry Pym, and Dr. Strange, the mystical go-to guy whenever there's an extradimensional threat. Both are connected to The Avengers line of characters that Marvel had started developing for the big screen long before Disney made the deal; Iron Man and the Hulk are among the Avengers that Marvel already has tapped. There are about 5,000 more characters, including obscure ones such as martial arts master Iron Fist from the 1970s and up-and-coming ones such as the Runaways, a street-savvy pack of teenagers that have become a recent Marvel comic-book hit. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Disney bets $4.2 billion on characters including Ant-Man, Dr. Strange
It was ok.I would say that between Marvel and DC the animated DVD's have been about even. The best so far is Green lantern but the worst so far would be Wonderwoman (i take that back...the next avengers was horrific) Just like in the comic world...Marvel may not have the coolest characters but often tell better stories c w m On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I checked. It actually came out in 2007. Here is the preview: http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi4188143897/ Its pretty good. The movies that have been made by Lionsgate have been pretty good, but I think the DC properties have been the best. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: No When!??? Was it any good? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Worf *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2010 11:12 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Disney bets $4.2 billion on characters including Ant-Man, Dr. Strange Did you see the Dr. Strange movie? It came out last year. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I LOVE DR. STRANGE! Sorry about the outburst -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 2:34 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney bets $4.2 billion on characters including Ant-Man, Dr. Strange http://www.fresnobee.com/554/story/1762715.html Possibilities include classics such as Ant-Man, the alter-ego of mad scientist Dr. Henry Pym, and Dr. Strange, the mystical go-to guy whenever there's an extradimensional threat. Both are connected to The Avengers line of characters that Marvel had started developing for the big screen long before Disney made the deal; Iron Man and the Hulk are among the Avengers that Marvel already has tapped. There are about 5,000 more characters, including obscure ones such as martial arts master Iron Fist from the 1970s and up-and-coming ones such as the Runaways, a street-savvy pack of teenagers that have become a recent Marvel comic-book hit. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
Blair Witch was cleverthus does not hold up over time. Its a one time thing that puts people in seats and becomes more of a sign post in the road to cinematic progression. The cleverness has now been co-opeted and you see the shaky camera everywhere There is nothing old school about Blair Witch. You want the audience to think not to guess... Purposeful suspense is golden.. done by many aand mastered by few Nothing beats simple solid storytelling c w m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: But see, I liked Blair Witch, and I don't think it fits the mold we're discussing. I have no problems with inexpensive filmmaking. I salute someone who can turn a profit. But Blair Witch was cleverly done; indeed, it's the exact opposite of the CGI-porn, torture-porn, overactive camera-porn we're discussing. It's an old school film in that the viewer has to use imagination to fill in the blanks--it's not all painted on screen for us. No, what I'm decrying is stuff like Transformers, G.I. Joe, even the over active Star Trek. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:01:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior burger when one's given to them? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has things in it to like. We have different tastes. He tends to like things that are a bit more fluff, fun, and visually striking. While I like those things, i tend to focus more on good acting and realistic plots. For example, he doesn't like the darker themes in the comic and animation worlds, while I love them. At any rate, he's on me all the time about Van Helsing, even getting irritated when I repeat for the eleventy millionth time that I hate it. And don't get me started on his feelings about my indifference towards The Fifth Element! - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:41:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Though I still haven't forgiven the great Dr. Abraham Van Helsing for allowing that awful movie with Hugh Jackman to be made about him -- or for not showing up and killing the entire cast
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
By the way..The Dark Knight proves that you can have emotional depth to a character, CGI, kill people.and on top of that... BRING EVERYONE TO THE THEATER... There is a way to hit on all pistons and not have to sell out...or settle for your G.I. Joes, Transformers, Terminator: Salvation...etc. We need to stop making excuses for hollywood c w m On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: Blair Witch was cleverthus does not hold up over time. Its a one time thing that puts people in seats and becomes more of a sign post in the road to cinematic progression. The cleverness has now been co-opeted and you see the shaky camera everywhere There is nothing old school about Blair Witch. You want the audience to think not to guess... Purposeful suspense is golden.. done by many aand mastered by few Nothing beats simple solid storytelling c w m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: But see, I liked Blair Witch, and I don't think it fits the mold we're discussing. I have no problems with inexpensive filmmaking. I salute someone who can turn a profit. But Blair Witch was cleverly done; indeed, it's the exact opposite of the CGI-porn, torture-porn, overactive camera-porn we're discussing. It's an old school film in that the viewer has to use imagination to fill in the blanks--it's not all painted on screen for us. No, what I'm decrying is stuff like Transformers, G.I. Joe, even the over active Star Trek. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:01:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior burger when one's given to them? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has things in it to like. We have different tastes. He tends to like things that are a bit more fluff, fun, and visually striking. While I like those things, i tend to focus more on good acting and realistic plots. For example, he doesn't like the darker themes in the comic and animation worlds, while I love them. At any rate, he's on me all the time about Van Helsing, even getting irritated when I repeat for the eleventy millionth time that I hate it. And don't get me started on his feelings about my indifference towards The Fifth Element! - Original
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
Yeah..it is kinda interesting how they want to simulate the documentary style. Now you see the steady shake shot like in Cloverfield or Quarantine... Interesting world we watch in.. c w m On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The funny thing about shaky camera is that is totally not necessary. It is an artificial effect that they use. 90% of the movies are made with steadycam (or dolley trucks) technology. There isn't any shaking of the camera because it uses counter weights to dampen movement. They often will add in the shakiness back into the film in the editing process. Crazy huh? The editor will add in a rotation and speed of the shaking with X number of degrees. That's why it is so hard to look at visually because it is a special effect and the movement of the artificial camera lens is contrary to the movement on the screen. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Blair Witch was cleverthus does not hold up over time. Its a one time thing that puts people in seats and becomes more of a sign post in the road to cinematic progression. The cleverness has now been co-opeted and you see the shaky camera everywhere There is nothing old school about Blair Witch. You want the audience to think not to guess... Purposeful suspense is golden.. done by many aand mastered by few Nothing beats simple solid storytelling c w m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: But see, I liked Blair Witch, and I don't think it fits the mold we're discussing. I have no problems with inexpensive filmmaking. I salute someone who can turn a profit. But Blair Witch was cleverly done; indeed, it's the exact opposite of the CGI-porn, torture-porn, overactive camera-porn we're discussing. It's an old school film in that the viewer has to use imagination to fill in the blanks--it's not all painted on screen for us. No, what I'm decrying is stuff like Transformers, G.I. Joe, even the over active Star Trek. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:01:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior burger when one's given to them? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has things in it to like. We have
Re: [scifinoir2] Technology not as advanced by 2010 as some had hoped
The perception of advancing technology is projected from the past. We have naturally accelerated culture through infinitely intimate communication. Now human events that took a decade to experience, live through, understand and die (like disco) could take a month or a moment... The world has now become microcosms of microcosms of microcosms all self sustaining and many unintelligible. Celebrity has become a self referencing concept. People becoming celebrity because they are celebrities. People akin to murderers and rapists becoming demigods and role models. We live in the future. Pepetually a breath away from what we think is the next day. Evolution is now. We really do live in marvelous times On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: France is working on that fusion thing. We probably would have a lot of this stuff if we didn't have the cold war, Korean war, and Vietnam. But then again we wouldn't have a lot of the technologies that were developed for the military as well. (such as duct tape and other goodies) If the military had thought that they needed flying tanks they would have them by now. That would trickle down to us. Instead we got the Hummer. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: yep, i have a list in an essay i put together a few years back on this very topic, that i'll dig up. it lists things like better portable batteries (needed for handheld laser weapons), controlled fusion (spaceships, power generation), vast oceanic kelp farms (to feed the masses), true AI, etc. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:12:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Technology not as advanced by 2010 as some had hoped Keith, I think you once said that you were waiting for your flying car to arrive. I'll take that for a tech advance. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:03:26 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Technology not as advanced by 2010 as some had hoped Technology not as advanced by 2010 as some had hoped NEW YORK Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:38am EST Related News - Phones, PCs to drive tech rally into 2010http://www.reuters.com/article/idCATRE5BU2DT20091231 11:38am EST [image: The first buyer of the new 3G iPhone in Hong Kong shows off his phone July 11, 2008. REUTERS/Bobby Yip] NEW YORK (Reuters) - Despite iPods, genetic sequencing, the Internet and Twitter, nearly a third of Americans said they thought there would be more technological advances by the year 2010. Technology http://www.reuters.com/news/technology | Lifestylehttp://www.reuters.com/news/lifestyle Not everyone expected to be living like The Jetsons, the space age television cartoon series of the early 1960s, but the Zogby International survey of more than 3,000 adults in the United States showed many were less than enthusiastic about how far we have come by the dawn of a new decade. The age group most likely to be disappointed with the current level of technological advancement are 35 to 54-year-olds (36 percent), Zogby, which conducted the survey commissioned by the website ScoopDaily, said in a statement. About 21 percent of people believe we are more technologically advanced than they thought we would be by 2010, while 37 percent believed we are on target for their expectations. About a third of people 70 years and older said they thought current technology was more advanced than they thought it would be. First Globals, those age 18-30, are much less likely than older generations to say the technological advancements up until now have exceeded their expectations, Zogby added. Not surprisingly, men were more likely than women to say they thought there would have been greater advances by 2010 to the Jetson lifestyle with its flying saucer-like cars and robotic servants. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
Agreed! On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: People should complain every time its used when they have the screeners in Hollywood. It would fall out of fashion quickly. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah..it is kinda interesting how they want to simulate the documentary style. Now you see the steady shake shot like in Cloverfield or Quarantine... Interesting world we watch in.. c w m On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: The funny thing about shaky camera is that is totally not necessary. It is an artificial effect that they use. 90% of the movies are made with steadycam (or dolley trucks) technology. There isn't any shaking of the camera because it uses counter weights to dampen movement. They often will add in the shakiness back into the film in the editing process. Crazy huh? The editor will add in a rotation and speed of the shaking with X number of degrees. That's why it is so hard to look at visually because it is a special effect and the movement of the artificial camera lens is contrary to the movement on the screen. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Blair Witch was cleverthus does not hold up over time. Its a one time thing that puts people in seats and becomes more of a sign post in the road to cinematic progression. The cleverness has now been co-opeted and you see the shaky camera everywhere There is nothing old school about Blair Witch. You want the audience to think not to guess... Purposeful suspense is golden.. done by many aand mastered by few Nothing beats simple solid storytelling c w m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: But see, I liked Blair Witch, and I don't think it fits the mold we're discussing. I have no problems with inexpensive filmmaking. I salute someone who can turn a profit. But Blair Witch was cleverly done; indeed, it's the exact opposite of the CGI-porn, torture-porn, overactive camera-porn we're discussing. It's an old school film in that the viewer has to use imagination to fill in the blanks--it's not all painted on screen for us. No, what I'm decrying is stuff like Transformers, G.I. Joe, even the over active Star Trek. - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:01:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior burger when one's given to them? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero?
I hate to argue semantics (no i dont) but thats just about the same thing... Heroism starts and ends at the act and not the intention. Thats what makes the anti-hero just like the Byronic Hero. Maybe the anit-hero is less likeable but I think they are the same thing. Your talking about someone you can look up to and antiheros are dick's by definition. Han Solo never gave a flying fig about the Rebellion...he was in love and in trouble with the Hutts.this will convince you to do lots of things not in your regular set of tools. and happy new year scifinoir On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:39 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: It's pretty close and interchangeable in some cases. The Byronic hero is flawed but has some redeeming qualities where some anti-heroes are the protagonists but not heroic in the least. A good example for me is Heath Huston from the Fear Agent comic. Hard dringing, sarcastic as hell, deeply flawed and mentally scarred by a heinous act he committed in error but is heroic to a fault. An anti-hero would be Lance Blastoff from Frank Miller's Tales To Offend. He a similar character but he's a total bastard. Any heroic acts he performs usually have a heinous twist for the people he helped. Imagine if Han Solo would have sold Ben Kenobi and Skywalker to the Imperials and bought Princess Leia with the proceeds. That's the kind of guy Blastoff is. LOL --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Sounds like any anti-hero. Punisher Man with No Name Wolverine etc c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...wrote: Mad, bad and dangerous to know? That exactly how Roger Zelazny described Corwin of Amber. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:52:04 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero? Capt. Mal Reynolds from Firefly/Serenity Pepper from Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series Uther Doul from China Mieville's The Scar Han Solo Riddick Captain Jack Sparrow --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: Blade? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:38 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Byronic hero? The Byronic hero is an idealized but flawed character http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_%28arts%29 exemplified in the life and writings of Lord Byron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gordon_Byron,_6th_Baron_Byron , characterized by his ex-lover Lady Caroline Lamb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Caroline_Lamb as being mad, bad, and dangerous to know.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero#cite_note-0 The best examples that I can think of off the bat is Batman, Ironman, and possibly James Bond. Can you think of some others? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors
Shows that Lost is not so original. Is it really worth checking out? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:31 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Well it's a remake of a series that predates Lost. Does that help? LOL It feels nothing like Lost. Very different characters and very different motivations for their actions. With 99% of the world dead by the end of episode one it gets to the meat of the series pretty quickly. If I'd compare the feel to any show it would be Jericho. Some of the same problems and struggles but with a lot less people and guns. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Any genre work with surviving parties reminds me of Lost.. I want variety dag nab it!!! (Cant wait for The new Global Frequency to air!!) c w m On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:29 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: What about Survivors reminds you of Lost? It has some of the same themes as The Walking Dead but the lack of zombies takes the story in a few different directions. ;) I've seen about 1/2 of season one and it's great. Things like Survivors, 28 Days Later, Shaun of the Dead, etc. remind me just how American and British culture differs. The lack of accessible privately held firearms makes for very different storytelling. It comes into play in a big way early in the series. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: This not only sounds Lost like... but realize that Walking Dead is coming out this yearanother year with several of the same shows...yeah On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: I remember it, Angela, though vaguely right now. I'll need to go and pick up a prompt or fourteen. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com From: asrobinson@ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:40:51 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors It's on my calendar now too! Thanks. Weren't we all recently discussing wanting a show that would pick up where movies like 2012 leave off? At the time I asked if anyone had seen the 1984 PBS movie Threads. It was pretty provacative. Anyone else remeber it? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors BBC America http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ has announced the launch date for post-apocalyptic drama series Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ . The much-delayed Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is an adaptation of the cult classic 1970s series (itself based on Terry Nation http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0622334/ 's novel), will have its Us premiere on Saturday, February 13th at 8 pm Et/Pt, before shifting to its regular timeslot at 9 pm Et/Pt the following week. The series tracks the adventures of a group of people who survive a global viral holocaust that wipes out 99 percent of the human race's population and who struggle to stay alive in the face of unspeakable odds following this global catastrophe. In the official scheduling announcement, BBC http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ America refers to the twelve-episode season of Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is a sign that the digital cabler intend to air the first two UK seasons of Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ back-to-back. Season One, which aired in the UK in 2008, was comprised of six episodes and the second season of - Jace http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1157595/news#ni1324874 -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors
I heard Jerhico was garbage.. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: If you like the post-apocalyptic genre it will definitely scratch that itch. Patterson Joseph has a great role and it's always a pleasure to watch Freema do her thing. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: Shows that Lost is not so original. Is it really worth checking out? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:31 AM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Well it's a remake of a series that predates Lost. Does that help? LOL It feels nothing like Lost. Very different characters and very different motivations for their actions. With 99% of the world dead by the end of episode one it gets to the meat of the series pretty quickly. If I'd compare the feel to any show it would be Jericho. Some of the same problems and struggles but with a lot less people and guns. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: Any genre work with surviving parties reminds me of Lost.. I want variety dag nab it!!! (Cant wait for The new Global Frequency to air!!) c w m On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:29 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: What about Survivors reminds you of Lost? It has some of the same themes as The Walking Dead but the lack of zombies takes the story in a few different directions. ;) I've seen about 1/2 of season one and it's great. Things like Survivors, 28 Days Later, Shaun of the Dead, etc. remind me just how American and British culture differs. The lack of accessible privately held firearms makes for very different storytelling. It comes into play in a big way early in the series. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: This not only sounds Lost like... but realize that Walking Dead is coming out this yearanother year with several of the same shows...yeah On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: I remember it, Angela, though vaguely right now. I'll need to go and pick up a prompt or fourteen. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com From: asrobinson@ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:40:51 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors It's on my calendar now too! Thanks. Weren't we all recently discussing wanting a show that would pick up where movies like 2012 leave off? At the time I asked if anyone had seen the 1984 PBS movie Threads. It was pretty provacative. Anyone else remeber it? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors BBC America http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ has announced the launch date for post-apocalyptic drama series Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ . The much-delayed Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is an adaptation of the cult classic 1970s series (itself based on Terry Nation http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0622334/ 's novel), will have its Us premiere on Saturday, February 13th at 8 pm Et/Pt, before shifting to its regular timeslot at 9 pm Et/Pt the following week. The series tracks the adventures of a group of people who survive a global viral holocaust that wipes out 99 percent of the human race's population and who struggle to stay alive in the face of unspeakable odds following this global catastrophe. In the official scheduling announcement, BBC http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ America refers to the twelve-episode season of Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is a sign that the digital cabler intend to air the first two UK seasons of Survivors http
Re: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV
The battle with the internet begins On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of stuff that the industry did that increased their costs over the years. For example, the switch to robotic cameras because they thought it was cheaper than hiring camera people. (only in the short term) Some shows have gigantic budgets that don't pay back. For example, you can shoot a sitcom for $500,000-1,000,000 an episode. Law and Order for about $1 million - 1.5 million but shows like Fringe can cost huge amounts of money. All that CGI and explosions adds up. CSI for example probably costs about 5 million or more an episode. This is all not counting the actor's salaries. Some of the stuff is not really needed sometimes. For example, do we really need a fly through of someone's lymphatic system? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: 'Good programing is expensive,' Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corp. owns Fox, told a shareholder meeting this fall. Rupert, an old adage comes to mind. You gotta spend money to make money. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:45:33 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] The End Of Free TV Broadcasters' Woes Could Lead To The End Of Free TV - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/free-tv-in-trouble_n_405761.html NEW YORK — For more than 60 years, TV stations have broadcast news, sports and entertainment for free and made their money by showing commercials. That might not work much longer. The business model is unraveling at ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox and the local stations that carry the networks' programming. Cable TV and the Web have fractured the audience for free TV and siphoned its ad dollars. The recession has squeezed advertising further, forcing broadcasters to accelerate their push for new revenue to pay for programming. That will play out in living rooms across the country. The changes could mean higher cable or satellite TV bills, as the networks and local stations squeeze more fees from pay-TV providers such as Comcast and DirecTV for the right to show broadcast TV channels in their lineups. The networks might even ditch free broadcast signals in the next few years. Instead, they could operate as cable channels – a move that could spell the end of free TV as Americans have known it since the 1940s. Good programing is expensive, Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corp. owns Fox, told a shareholder meeting this fall. It can no longer be supported solely by advertising revenues. Fox is pursuing its strategy in public, warning that its broadcasts – including college football bowl games – could go dark Friday for subscribers of Time Warner Cable, unless the pay-TV operator gives Fox higher fees. For its part, Time Warner Cable is asking customers whether it should roll over or get tough in negotiations. The future of free TV also could be altered as the biggest pay-TV provider, Comcast Corp., prepares to take control of NBC. Comcast has not signaled plans to end NBC's free broadcasts. But Jeff Zucker, who runs NBC and its sister cable channels such as CNBC and Bravo, told investors this month that the cable model is just superior to the broadcast model. The traditional broadcast model works like this: CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox distribute shows through a network of local stations. The networks own a few stations in big markets, but most are affiliates, owned by separate companies. Traditionally the networks paid affiliates to broadcast their shows, though those fees have dwindled to near nothing as local stations have seen their audience shrink. What hasn't changed is where the money mainly comes from: advertising. Story continues below [image: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/images/v/darr.gif] Cable channels make most of their money by charging pay-TV providers a monthly fee per subscriber for their programing. On average, the pay-TV providers pay about 26 cents for each channel they carry, according to research firm SNL Kagan. A channel as highly rated as ESPN can get close to $4, while some, such as MTV2, go for just a few pennies. With both advertising and fees, ESPN has seen its revenue grow to $6.3 billion in 2009 from $1.8 billion a decade ago, according to SNL Kagan estimates. It has been able to bid for premium events that networks had traditionally aired, such as football games. Cable channels also have been able to fund high-quality shows, such as AMC's Mad Men, rather than recycling movies and TV series. That, plus a growing number of channels, has given cable a bigger share of the ad pie. In 1998, cable channels drew roughly $9.1 billion, or 24 percent
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Roll Call: What are you reading?
How do you folks find the budget to buy all these books!!! c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Tobias is biracial. His father was from Grenada and his mother was English. So no culture vulturing going on with him. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Thanks for the heads-up on Sly Mongoose. I will add it to my queue. I thoroughly enjoyed Ragamuffin. Wish a black person had written it (one prolly did but, unlike Mr. Buckell, could not get it published) but beggars like me (were born to run! no, wait, uh...) can't be choosers. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: I'm reading the third book in Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series, Sly Mongoose. The series is a great space opera with the main characters hailing from colonies settled by Caribbean folk and Aztecs http://www.amazon.com/Sly-Mongoose-Tobias-S-Buckell/dp/0765319209 http://www.amazon.com/Sly-Mongoose-Tobias-S-Buckell/dp/0765319209 This book deals with the fallout from overthrowing the series big bads and finding out they were a control mechanism set in place by an older and even more enigmatic race. They see uncontrolled sentience as dangerous and since humanity has thrown off that leash they take steps to end it. So far we've got scorched planets, space battles and did I mention the zombies? It's a hell of a ride. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: *Remix: Making Art and Commerce Thrive in the Hybrid Economy* by Lawrence Lessig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig [image: File:Lessig remix.jpg] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Lessig_remix.jp\ http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Lessig_remix.jp g On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: I am reading Queen City Jazz by Kathleen Ann Goonan and thoroughly enjoying her post apocalyptic novel. It is eerily precognitive about the incipient dangers of giving too much of our lives over to smart tech. ~rave! http://twitter.com/ravenadal http://theworldebon.blogspot.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero?
Sounds like any anti-hero. Punisher Man with No Name Wolverine etc c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mad, bad and dangerous to know? That exactly how Roger Zelazny described Corwin of Amber. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:52:04 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Byronic hero? Capt. Mal Reynolds from Firefly/Serenity Pepper from Tobias Buckell's Ragamuffin series Uther Doul from China Mieville's The Scar Han Solo Riddick Captain Jack Sparrow --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Blade? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:38 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Byronic hero? The Byronic hero is an idealized but flawed character http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_%28arts%29 exemplified in the life and writings of Lord Byron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gordon_Byron,_6th_Baron_Byron , characterized by his ex-lover Lady Caroline Lamb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Caroline_Lamb as being mad, bad, and dangerous to know.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero#cite_note-0 The best examples that I can think of off the bat is Batman, Ironman, and possibly James Bond. Can you think of some others? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has things in it to like. We have different tastes. He tends to like things that are a bit more fluff, fun, and visually striking. While I like those things, i tend to focus more on good acting and realistic plots. For example, he doesn't like the darker themes in the comic and animation worlds, while I love them. At any rate, he's on me all the time about Van Helsing, even getting irritated when I repeat for the eleventy millionth time that I hate it. And don't get me started on his feelings about my indifference towards The Fifth Element! - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:41:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Though I still haven't forgiven the great Dr. Abraham Van Helsing for allowing that awful movie with Hugh Jackman to be made about him -- or for not showing up and killing the entire cast of the *Twilight* -- I'm excited to catch his descendants on the new British import, *Demons*. A new horror series from the writers of past British hits *Hex* and * Merlin*, *Demons*http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/index.jsp?bclid=27610373001bctid=55969482001features Philip Glenister ( *Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes*) as cold, stern American Rupert Galvin. The yank must recruit the last descendant of Van Helsing to join forces with him commit to life battling monsters -- before those monsters kill him. *Demons* unveils a world just out of humans' sight -- full of vampires and other inhumans. (Insert joke about politicians here.) Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is the everykid teenager forced to come to terms with the harsh reality that he's the direct descendant of the vampire-hunting Van Helsing. To train Luke, Galvin calls on the beautiful, haunted Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist and authority on the beasts preying on humanity. The creepy Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke's other teacher on the lore behind his enemies. Looking at the pilot, I do wish the hero was a little older as I don't want to see Jim Henson's Van Helsing Babies. But, I'll give it a shot. *Demons* premieres Saturday, January 2, 10:00 p.m. on BBC America. http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/12/20/bbc-america-brings-back-van-helsing-in-demons/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons
Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? (why is Uwe Boll still working) Short termflash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. Long termcontent is king.. You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the short term. For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... c w m On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior burger when one's given to them? - Original Message - From: Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or Frankenstein fight Dracula... In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before anything else..forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.in Blue D. Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute The movie was born for cable. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I had to chuckle when reading about Van Helsing. I despise the movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the horrible camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent the director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has things in it to like. We have different tastes. He tends to like things that are a bit more fluff, fun, and visually striking. While I like those things, i tend to focus more on good acting and realistic plots. For example, he doesn't like the darker themes in the comic and animation worlds, while I love them. At any rate, he's on me all the time about Van Helsing, even getting irritated when I repeat for the eleventy millionth time that I hate it. And don't get me started on his feelings about my indifference towards The Fifth Element! - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:41:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons Though I still haven't forgiven the great Dr. Abraham Van Helsing for allowing that awful movie with Hugh Jackman to be made about him -- or for not showing up and killing the entire cast of the *Twilight* -- I'm excited to catch his descendants on the new British import, *Demons*. A new horror series from the writers of past British hits *Hex* and * Merlin*, *Demons*http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/index.jsp?bclid=27610373001bctid=55969482001features Philip Glenister ( *Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes*) as cold, stern American Rupert Galvin. The yank must recruit the last descendant of Van Helsing to join forces with him commit to life battling monsters -- before those monsters kill him. *Demons* unveils a world just out of humans' sight -- full of vampires and other inhumans. (Insert joke about politicians here.) Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is the everykid teenager forced to come to terms with the harsh reality that he's the direct descendant of the vampire-hunting Van Helsing. To train Luke, Galvin calls on the beautiful, haunted Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist and authority on the beasts preying on humanity. The creepy Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke's other teacher on the lore behind his enemies. Looking at the pilot, I do wish the hero was a little older as I don't want to see Jim Henson's Van Helsing Babies. But, I'll give it a shot. *Demons* premieres Saturday, January 2, 10:00 p.m. on BBC America. http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/12/20/bbc-america-brings-back-van-helsing-in-demons
Re: [scifinoir2] DirecTV 3D broadcasts coming in early 2010?
Welcome to the future On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a demo of the 3d conversion glasses at an electronics store a couple of months ago. It works very well with any computer monitor but even better with concave monitors. For example, Guitar Hero was in 3d and the fretboard extended about 5 inches out of the monitor. Pretty cool stuff. On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: I take a 39 Long, please. ;-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:57:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] DirecTV 3D broadcasts coming in early 2010? Well what is happening is a little more like the Jetsons. It won't be a fad but the new broadcast standard. 3d, HD all the time. Someone cue up the futuristic music! Someone order Martin his unitard jumpsuit. :) On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: 3D broadcasts do nothing for my brain, so I'd rather have a few dozen extra channels on the tier, Space Channel from Canada right off the bat. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:02:54 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] DirecTV 3D broadcasts coming in early 2010? http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/directv-3d-broadcasts-coming-in-early-2010/ http://hdguru.com/directv-to-launch-a-3d-channel-hd-guru-exclusive/1201/ Finding itself with a wealth of a additional bandwidth thanks to a new satellite going up todayhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/12/03/directv-12-on-its-way-to-the-launch-site/, DirecTVhttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/12/03/directv-12-on-its-way-to-the-launch-site/may have already decided its first big addition will be 3D. Citing the always popular unnamed sources, *HD Guru* says we should prepare for a CES announcement that the bird will be up and running by March beaming down a collection of movies, sports and TV shows in 3D HD, requiring only a firmware upgrade on existing set-top boxes to tune into the new stations. UK satellite provider Sky has already tipped its hand about 2010 3D planshttp://hd.engadget.com/2009/11/30/sky-planning-3d-soccer-broadcasts-for-2010/, with a newly freshened HDMI spechttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/hdmi-1-4-spec-getting-freshened-up-in-preparation-for-broadcast/expected to ease things along and nearly every manufacturer either already producing compatible displays or planning to announce them in less than a week there's very little doubt remaining about whether broadcast 3D is coming homehttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/ready-or-not-the-latest-3d-technology-is-coming-home/this year, only how and when. (This was also mentioned in an interview on Discovery Science earlier this year that this would be an option to people with HD tvs. All of the HD tvs are compatible with it.) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors
Any genre work with surviving parties reminds me of Lost.. I want variety dag nab it!!! (Cant wait for The new Global Frequency to air!!) c w m On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:29 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: What about Survivors reminds you of Lost? It has some of the same themes as The Walking Dead but the lack of zombies takes the story in a few different directions. ;) I've seen about 1/2 of season one and it's great. Things like Survivors, 28 Days Later, Shaun of the Dead, etc. remind me just how American and British culture differs. The lack of accessible privately held firearms makes for very different storytelling. It comes into play in a big way early in the series. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: This not only sounds Lost like... but realize that Walking Dead is coming out this yearanother year with several of the same shows...yeah On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...wrote: I remember it, Angela, though vaguely right now. I'll need to go and pick up a prompt or fourteen. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com From: asrobin...@... Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:40:51 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors It's on my calendar now too! Thanks. Weren't we all recently discussing wanting a show that would pick up where movies like 2012 leave off? At the time I asked if anyone had seen the 1984 PBS movie Threads. It was pretty provacative. Anyone else remeber it? Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: BBC America Announces Launch Date for Survivors BBC America http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ has announced the launch date for post-apocalyptic drama series Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ . The much-delayed Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is an adaptation of the cult classic 1970s series (itself based on Terry Nation http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0622334/ 's novel), will have its Us premiere on Saturday, February 13th at 8 pm Et/Pt, before shifting to its regular timeslot at 9 pm Et/Pt the following week. The series tracks the adventures of a group of people who survive a global viral holocaust that wipes out 99 percent of the human race's population and who struggle to stay alive in the face of unspeakable odds following this global catastrophe. In the official scheduling announcement, BBC http://www.imdb.com/company/co0118334/ America refers to the twelve-episode season of Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ , which is a sign that the digital cabler intend to air the first two UK seasons of Survivors http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/ back-to-back. Season One, which aired in the UK in 2008, was comprised of six episodes and the second season of - Jace http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1157595/news#ni1324874 -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Roll Call: What are you reading?
*Remix: Making Art and Commerce Thrive in the Hybrid Economy* by Lawrence Lessig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig [image: File:Lessig remix.jpg]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Lessig_remix.jpg On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I am reading Queen City Jazz by Kathleen Ann Goonan and thoroughly enjoying her post apocalyptic novel. It is eerily precognitive about the incipient dangers of giving too much of our lives over to smart tech. ~rave! http://twitter.com/ravenadal http://theworldebon.blogspot.com -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] The Matrix's 'Morpheus' will battle Predators
He is talented.either that or he is a relative of Jamie Madrox. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Rogue n1ro...@aol.com wrote: *When did Laurence Fishburne have time to star in a movie when he was suppose to be at the Las Vegas crime lab solving CSI cases??* *--Lavender* *If all truths were knowable, then all truths are in fact known.* *From:* Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 20, 2009 10:50 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ; 'CINQUE ' cinque3...@verizon.net ; ggs...@yahoo.com *Subject:* [scifinoir2] The Matrix's 'Morpheus' will battle Predators *The Matrix**'s 'Morpheus' will battle Predators* While visiting the Austin, Texas, set of the upcoming sci-fi movie * Predators* today, SCI FI Wire learned that Laurence Fishburne (*The Matrix *) has been added to the already impressive cast, which includes Adrien Brody, Topher Grace, Walton Goggins and Danny Trejo. Fisburne will play Noland, a character being compared to Yoda, who has used his Zen-like abilities to survive among the alien Predators on a deadly hunting planet. *Predators*, which is now in production, is conceived of as a sequel of sorts to the original Arnold Schwarzenegger film, with the added s an homage to James Cameron's classic *Alien* sequel, *Aliens*. The story of * Predators* centers on a group of eight humans who wake up to find themselves being hunted for sport in the jungles of a strange planet. *Predators* is being directed by Nimrod Antal (*Armored*) and is produced by Robert Rodriguez. The production shot in Hawaii for a few weeks and is now being completed at Rodriguez's Austin-based Troublemaker Studios. *Predators* is currently slated for a summer 2010 release. Look for more news from the set of *Predators* soon! http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/the-matrixs-morpheus-will.php -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Happy Holidays scifinoir2
still owes me too...my gift better be pawnable.. merry stuff and happy stuff.. c w m On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Amy Harlib ahar...@earthlink.net wrote: ahar...@earthlink.net Have a Happy to you and everybody too! Peace, Amy No matter your belief system. Hopefully you can get shoreleave to the pleasure planet of Risa, if not I hope you can spend quality with family and /or friends.Do more than put $$ into James Cameron or Disney's pockets. Pick up the communicater and reconnect with that sibling or cousin who gets amnesia when it comes to that $100 he borrowed back in 85. Its just not that deep. Happy Holidays -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.119/2585 - Release Date: 12/24/09 03:11:00 -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Sexy Blue Women
I second that motion... On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: Nah, I'm gonna go with Zhaan. The idea of Farscape was okay to me before the premiere, but it's the image of Virginia in the blue makeup that sold me on the first episode. So if I had to choose, I'd go with Zhaan as my #1 and Lyssa ( gotta represent for the Corps) as #2. While we're on the subject of the Na'Vi, though, I'd have to go with Grace(Sigourney Weaver)'s Avatar over Neytiri. Neytiri was pretty much a brat for the whole first half of the story, and it looked (to me) like Grace got her Avatar engineered to be a little more, shall we say, top heavy than the rest of the Na'Vi women. On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Kelwyn wrote: This is funny. This thread should be titled Not only is Zoe Saldana's Neytiri NOT the sexiest woman we have ever seen, she is not even the sexiest BLUE woman we've ever seen! First of all, if you are creating the sexiest woman, you don't start with a Zoe Saldana template (see Rebecca Romijn). For my money, the sexiest blue woman was the pregnant Sue Storm as essayed by the Jack Kirby in Fantastic Four #70. http://www.comics.org/issue/21593/cover/4/?style=default http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=570019gsub=82417 In 1968, Mr. Kirby couldn't realistically portray Sue Storm's pregnancy (they never showed a baby bump) he blew up Sue's breasts and gave her a stupid hip to waist ratio. Zing! went the strings of my 12 year-old heart! Alas, the powers that be had Kirby tone down Sue's bodaciousness in the next issue and for the rest of his reign. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Sexy Blue Women http://io9.com/5431487/sexy-blue-women James Cameron has talked a great deal about how he designed Neytiri, Avatar's main female character, to be incredibly sexy. But is she really the sexiest blue woman you've ever seen? We take a look at the competition. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/12/zoe-saldana-as-neytiri.jpg Neytiri (Avatar): She's tough as carbon-reinforced nails, a crack hunter, and could crush you with her bare hands. Plus, she's been specifically engineered by James Cameron to make you want to sleep with her. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/mystique.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/500x_mystique.jpgMystique (X-Men): She's a shapeshifting spy and powerful leader against the world's anti-mutant forces, though her ethics are questionable. And let's not forget her statuesque appearance, one that demanded Rebecca Romijn play her in the movies. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/12/nocturne_taliawagner__head .jpgNocturne (Marvel): Mystique's granddaughter by an alternate reality Nightcrawler and Scarlet Witch, Nocturne has inherited her father's strange physiology (right down to the tail). On top of that, she shares Nightcrawler's acrobatic abilities and is a master contortionist. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/12/smurfs_tv_show_surprised_s murfette_01.jpgSmurfette (The Smurfs): She's cute, and despite being created as an evil creature by Gargamel, manages to overcome her nature and become a happy Smurfing Smurf. Plus, the entire Smurf village is in love with her - although that may have more to do with her status as the sole female Smurf than her inherent appeal. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/talas-official-wallpaper-st ar-trek-enterprise-7090911-800-600_01.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/500x_talas-official-wallpape r-star-trek-enterprise-7090911-800-600_01.jpgTalas (Enterprise): If you prefer a woman who's handy with a phaser, Talas might be your blue gal. The Andorian lieutenant isn't above using her feminine wiles to get the job done, but failing that, she's more than ready to fight. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/saberwiki_swcreators_aayla_ secura_aayla.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/12/500x_saberwiki_swcreators_aa yla_secura_aayla.jpgAayla Secura (Star Wars): Twi'lek's are considered especially beautiful by the various peoples of the galaxy far, far away - something that has left them both tragically vulnerable to slavery and powerful in the art of seduction. Aayla Secura pairs her appearance with great strength in the Force, rising to Jedi Master and fighting in the Clone Wars. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/12/zhaan01.jpgZhaan (Farscape): Yes, she belongs to a species of sentient plants, but Zhaan is as hot-blooded as any being on the far side of the universe. She's a priestess and a revolutionary, as skilled with meditation as she is with making bombs. Just don't get on her bad side; Zhaan murdered the man
Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32
poor woman indeeddamn that success On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: That's good. Maybe now the Fourth Estate can let go of it and let the poor woman rest in peace. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:49:57 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 Autopsy report is normal… *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2009 5:33 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 As do I, Tracey, especially pain meds. As for why her husband is trying to block the autopsy, the whisper-stream says that he's more than a little sideways, may have contributed to her death. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:10:16 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 She has been doing it for more than twenty years. (since 14) . If she were not cut out for it, why would it take so long for her to burn out. Why did her husband try to prevent the autopsy. Why have they found so many prescription drugs, why the dramatic weight loss after years of being another body type and a whole host of other related issues. I know some wonderful people who have prescription drug issues. Prescription drug addiction can hit all types of people. I remember taking some for pain and having to give them up before the pain was gone. It was not easy. I had my doctor and my husband to back me up, but it would be easy for people around you to say yes instead of know. It would be easier for you to tell yourself, “just a few more days until I get through this rough patch” That is all it takes to become a addicted on pain killers If that were true there would be a LOT more actors and actresses piling up. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: Working in a high stress environment where your livelihood depends on your look (which you maintain by working out 5 times a week) and ability to memorize lines. Not everybody is built for it. I met her a while ago. She was really funny. Really nice girl. Always seemed surprised all this success was happening to her. I'm gonna go with natural causes. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: What is your definition of natural causes? On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: Me work at emergency roomyes...at 32.. even at 20... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Not at 32. Its not natural causes at 32. Maybe 2000 years ago, but not now. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes people just die..no conspiracy... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Sad indeed, Mr Worf. Every time I saw her, I was drawn to her thinness and dark-circled eyes, and thought back to a late friend of mine who had a bad heart. He looked that way every day of his life. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:42:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That is sad. I think it was probably prescription drugs. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boasie.notlong.com LOS ANGELES — Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, has died in Los Angeles. She was 32. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Spokeswoman Sally Stewart said Murphy died at 10:04 a.m. Sunday. She would not provide a cause of death, or any other information. The Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call at 8 a.m. Sunday from a home that is listed as belonging to British screenwriter Simon Monjack, who is married to Murphy, spokesman Devon Gale said. Gale said one person was transported to a hospital. Los Angeles police have opened an investigation into Murphy's death, Officer Norma Eisenman said Sunday afternoon. Investigators have been dispatched to Murphy's home in the hills of West
Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32
Thats what I thought...yesterday they said it might take a week or so On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Actually I reported to soon. The results of the tox screen are not back *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:12 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That's good. Maybe now the Fourth Estate can let go of it and let the poor woman rest in peace. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:49:57 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 Autopsy report is normal… *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Baxter *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2009 5:33 PM *To:* SciFiNoir2 *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 As do I, Tracey, especially pain meds. As for why her husband is trying to block the autopsy, the whisper-stream says that he's more than a little sideways, may have contributed to her death. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:10:16 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 She has been doing it for more than twenty years. (since 14) . If she were not cut out for it, why would it take so long for her to burn out. Why did her husband try to prevent the autopsy. Why have they found so many prescription drugs, why the dramatic weight loss after years of being another body type and a whole host of other related issues. I know some wonderful people who have prescription drug issues. Prescription drug addiction can hit all types of people. I remember taking some for pain and having to give them up before the pain was gone. It was not easy. I had my doctor and my husband to back me up, but it would be easy for people around you to say yes instead of know. It would be easier for you to tell yourself, “just a few more days until I get through this rough patch” That is all it takes to become a addicted on pain killers If that were true there would be a LOT more actors and actresses piling up. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: Working in a high stress environment where your livelihood depends on your look (which you maintain by working out 5 times a week) and ability to memorize lines. Not everybody is built for it. I met her a while ago. She was really funny. Really nice girl. Always seemed surprised all this success was happening to her. I'm gonna go with natural causes. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: What is your definition of natural causes? On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: Me work at emergency roomyes...at 32.. even at 20... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Not at 32. Its not natural causes at 32. Maybe 2000 years ago, but not now. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes people just die..no conspiracy... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Sad indeed, Mr Worf. Every time I saw her, I was drawn to her thinness and dark-circled eyes, and thought back to a late friend of mine who had a bad heart. He looked that way every day of his life. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:42:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That is sad. I think it was probably prescription drugs. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boasie.notlong.com LOS ANGELES — Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, has died in Los Angeles. She was 32. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Spokeswoman Sally Stewart said Murphy died at 10:04 a.m. Sunday. She would not provide a cause of death, or any other information. The Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call at 8 a.m. Sunday from a home
Re: [scifinoir2] Bizarre: Kung fu monkeys beat up trainer
The most awesome monkey's ever On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: And YES, Mr Worf... that IS how it starts. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:54:44 -0500 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Bizarre: Kung fu monkeys beat up trainer See, folks!?! I keep saying that monkeys are evil... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:41:16 -0800 Subject: [scifinoir2] Bizarre: Kung fu monkeys beat up trainer I wonder if the monkeys will train other monkeys? This is how the planet of the apes starts. *Monkey took offense at his trainer and showed him the lessons of kung fu.* ** [image: Monkey_01]http://zuzutop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Monkey_01.jpg Lo Wung’s kung fu *monkeys* have become a regular feature outside a shopping centre in Enshi, Hubei province, where they were trained to show off their martial arts skills on each other. But one quick-thinking monkey saw his chance when Lo slipped – and caught him with a perfect flying kung fu kick to *the head*. The rest then joined in the affray. [image: Monkey_02]http://zuzutop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Monkey_02.jpg [image: Monkey_03]http://zuzutop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Monkey_03.jpg Hu Luang, 32, who caught the incident on camera, said: “I saw one punch him in the eye – he grabbed another by the ear and it responded by grabbing his nose. “They were leaping and jumping all over the place – it was better than a Bruce Lee film.” At one point *the monkey* trainer grabbed a staff to hit the monkeys, only to find himself facing a stick-brandishing monkey that cracked him over the head. Lo only managed to get the monkeys under control by tangling them up in the rope that had been used to stop them running off. [oranges.co.ukhttp://web.orange.co.uk/] and [english.cnhubei.com] -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32
Sometimes people just die..no conspiracy... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Sad indeed, Mr Worf. Every time I saw her, I was drawn to her thinness and dark-circled eyes, and thought back to a late friend of mine who had a bad heart. He looked that way every day of his life. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:42:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That is sad. I think it was probably prescription drugs. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boasie.notlong.com LOS ANGELES — Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, has died in Los Angeles. She was 32. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Spokeswoman Sally Stewart said Murphy died at 10:04 a.m. Sunday. She would not provide a cause of death, or any other information. The Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call at 8 a.m. Sunday from a home that is listed as belonging to British screenwriter Simon Monjack, who is married to Murphy, spokesman Devon Gale said. Gale said one person was transported to a hospital. Los Angeles police have opened an investigation into Murphy's death, Officer Norma Eisenman said Sunday afternoon. Investigators have been dispatched to Murphy's home in the hills of West Hollywood. Messages left for Murphy's manager, agent and publicist by The Associated Press weren't immediately returned. Born Nov. 10, 1977 in Atlanta, Murphy grew up in New Jersey and later moved with her mother to Los Angeles to pursue acting. Her career started in the early 1990s with small roles in television series, commercials and movies. She is best known for parts in Girl, Interrupted, Clueless and 8 Mile. Her on-screen roles declined in recent years, but Murphy's voice gave life to numerous animated characters, including Luanne Platter on more than 200 episodes of Fox's King of the Hill and Gloria the penguin in the 2006 feature Happy Feet. She is due to appear in Sylvester Stallone's upcoming film, The Expendables, set for release next year. Her role in 8 Mile led to more recognition, Murphy said told AP in 2003. That changed a lot, she said. That was the difference between people knowing my first and last name as opposed to not. Murphy credited her mother, Sharon, with being a key to her success. When I asked my mom to move to California, she sold everything and moved out here for me, Murphy said. I was really grateful to have grown up in an environment that was conducive to creating and didn't stifle any of that. She always believed in me. She dated Ashton Kutcher, who costarred with Murphy in 2003's romantic comedy Just Married. Kutcher sent a message on Twitter Sunday morning about Murphy's death: 2day the world lost a little piece of sunshine, Kutcher wrote. My deepest condolences go out 2 Brittany's family, her husband, her amazing mother Sharon. ——— AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32
Me work at emergency roomyes...at 32.. even at 20... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Not at 32. Its not natural causes at 32. Maybe 2000 years ago, but not now. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Sometimes people just die..no conspiracy... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Sad indeed, Mr Worf. Every time I saw her, I was drawn to her thinness and dark-circled eyes, and thought back to a late friend of mine who had a bad heart. He looked that way every day of his life. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:42:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That is sad. I think it was probably prescription drugs. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boasie.notlong.com LOS ANGELES — Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, has died in Los Angeles. She was 32. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Spokeswoman Sally Stewart said Murphy died at 10:04 a.m. Sunday. She would not provide a cause of death, or any other information. The Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call at 8 a.m. Sunday from a home that is listed as belonging to British screenwriter Simon Monjack, who is married to Murphy, spokesman Devon Gale said. Gale said one person was transported to a hospital. Los Angeles police have opened an investigation into Murphy's death, Officer Norma Eisenman said Sunday afternoon. Investigators have been dispatched to Murphy's home in the hills of West Hollywood. Messages left for Murphy's manager, agent and publicist by The Associated Press weren't immediately returned. Born Nov. 10, 1977 in Atlanta, Murphy grew up in New Jersey and later moved with her mother to Los Angeles to pursue acting. Her career started in the early 1990s with small roles in television series, commercials and movies. She is best known for parts in Girl, Interrupted, Clueless and 8 Mile. Her on-screen roles declined in recent years, but Murphy's voice gave life to numerous animated characters, including Luanne Platter on more than 200 episodes of Fox's King of the Hill and Gloria the penguin in the 2006 feature Happy Feet. She is due to appear in Sylvester Stallone's upcoming film, The Expendables, set for release next year. Her role in 8 Mile led to more recognition, Murphy said told AP in 2003. That changed a lot, she said. That was the difference between people knowing my first and last name as opposed to not. Murphy credited her mother, Sharon, with being a key to her success. When I asked my mom to move to California, she sold everything and moved out here for me, Murphy said. I was really grateful to have grown up in an environment that was conducive to creating and didn't stifle any of that. She always believed in me. She dated Ashton Kutcher, who costarred with Murphy in 2003's romantic comedy Just Married. Kutcher sent a message on Twitter Sunday morning about Murphy's death: 2day the world lost a little piece of sunshine, Kutcher wrote. My deepest condolences go out 2 Brittany's family, her husband, her amazing mother Sharon. ——— AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32
Respiratory failure..heart failure Sometimes its a case of an untreated condition that reached a critical mass... Often even your PCP can not find these things... ...with that said...it still might be drugs On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: What is your definition of natural causes? On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Me work at emergency roomyes...at 32.. even at 20... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Not at 32. Its not natural causes at 32. Maybe 2000 years ago, but not now. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: Sometimes people just die..no conspiracy... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Sad indeed, Mr Worf. Every time I saw her, I was drawn to her thinness and dark-circled eyes, and thought back to a late friend of mine who had a bad heart. He looked that way every day of his life. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:42:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sin City's Brittany Murphy Dead at 32 That is sad. I think it was probably prescription drugs. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://boasie.notlong.com LOS ANGELES — Brittany Murphy, the actress who got her start in the sleeper hit Clueless and rose to stardom in 8 Mile, has died in Los Angeles. She was 32. Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Spokeswoman Sally Stewart said Murphy died at 10:04 a.m. Sunday. She would not provide a cause of death, or any other information. The Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call at 8 a.m. Sunday from a home that is listed as belonging to British screenwriter Simon Monjack, who is married to Murphy, spokesman Devon Gale said. Gale said one person was transported to a hospital. Los Angeles police have opened an investigation into Murphy's death, Officer Norma Eisenman said Sunday afternoon. Investigators have been dispatched to Murphy's home in the hills of West Hollywood. Messages left for Murphy's manager, agent and publicist by The Associated Press weren't immediately returned. Born Nov. 10, 1977 in Atlanta, Murphy grew up in New Jersey and later moved with her mother to Los Angeles to pursue acting. Her career started in the early 1990s with small roles in television series, commercials and movies. She is best known for parts in Girl, Interrupted, Clueless and 8 Mile. Her on-screen roles declined in recent years, but Murphy's voice gave life to numerous animated characters, including Luanne Platter on more than 200 episodes of Fox's King of the Hill and Gloria the penguin in the 2006 feature Happy Feet. She is due to appear in Sylvester Stallone's upcoming film, The Expendables, set for release next year. Her role in 8 Mile led to more recognition, Murphy said told AP in 2003. That changed a lot, she said. That was the difference between people knowing my first and last name as opposed to not. Murphy credited her mother, Sharon, with being a key to her success. When I asked my mom to move to California, she sold everything and moved out here for me, Murphy said. I was really grateful to have grown up in an environment that was conducive to creating and didn't stifle any of that. She always believed in me. She dated Ashton Kutcher, who costarred with Murphy in 2003's romantic comedy Just Married. Kutcher sent a message on Twitter Sunday morning about Murphy's death: 2day the world lost a little piece of sunshine, Kutcher wrote. My deepest condolences go out 2 Brittany's family, her husband, her amazing mother Sharon. ——— AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity
Re: [scifinoir2] James Cameron: Terminator has run its course
So stop.Terminate and listen. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Given his skill in directing, he probably was. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:45:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] James Cameron: Terminator has run its course Not to mention McG's name. Sounds like a he was a dj for Vanilla Ice! On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, Mr Worf. Good to know that I'm not alone in that thought. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:28:48 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] James Cameron: Terminator has run its course I'm sorry but who told McG's lame ass that he can direct movies? On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: emember when *Terminator Salvation* director McG was seeking James Cameron's blessinghttp://scifiwire.com/2009/05/terminator-helmer-mcg-cla.phpfor his sequel film? I don't think he ever got it, and Cameron is now saying he thinks the whole franchise is played out, though he is gracious in offering backhanded praise for McG's disappointing movie. Here's what *Avatar* director Cameron told the *Toronto Sun*http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/movies/2009/12/17/12192301.html : I've moved on creatively from *The Terminator*, so I'm not really interested in that imagery and even those ideas anymore—and I'm not sure the world is that interested either. It's run its course, I feel. As evidence of this, he points to this summer's disappointing *Terminator Salvation*, which attempted to continue the series without Arnold Schwarzenegger. His persona was part of *The Terminator*, and when you uncouple those, you get *Terminator Salvation*, which is actually a fine film from a pure filmmaking standpoint—it just doesn't gel up into anything mind-blowing. Ouch! Read the rest of Cameron's comments—including his regrets about selling off the *Terminator* rights for only $1!—herehttp://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/movies/2009/12/17/12192301.html . http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/james-cameron-terminator.php -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Doctor Who
You have to make sure Doctor Who is high on the priority list.Comcast dvr is like alien tech...gotta take a sec to figure it out. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: My stupid conscum dvr erased the show twice yesterday! Now I have to look for it on hulu. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote: I missed that Inside the TARDIS special, as my daughter graduated yesterday. How was that? Also, was the Graham Norton special a rerun? Daryle On Dec 19, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Kelwyn wrote: Thanks for the heads-up! I will be watching football (you gotta have priorities!) but I will be DVRing this episode and Inside the TARDIS. ~rave! Who's your friend? Who's your buddy? (Stripes) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: There's a new episode tonight called Waters of Mars. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] The SUPER HOT Iron Man 2 Trailer
War Motha Frelling Machine Snitches On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Looks good! On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.comwrote: Here is the link to the trailer http://bit.ly/5tE05F This trailer is really awesome. This movie is gonna break the box office wide open in May. And we have a Black super hero in War Machine. Hopefully they will let Don have his own film. -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.comhttp://harlemsocial.com/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] SyFy's Annihilation Earth More and Less than Expected
Are there any good syfy movies? I dont think they exsist. Spectacular Spidermand tv show is excellent by the way.. c w m On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I was relating to my wife how the Southern American accent is a staple of film and television. Think of how many times you've seen a show with the Southern Congressman speaking with his thck accent, or the Texas general running a military op? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:07:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] SyFy's Annihilation Earth More and Less than Expected Tracey, think of it this way. The next time you're ina discussion of the Worst Movie Accents of All Time, you've got material to run with. (That's how I'm taking it.) Really don't see why they had to make her character a Southerner. Working for CERN, she could've remained British and been fine. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:34:28 -0800 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] SyFy's Annihilation Earth More and Less than Expected I saw the last twenty minutes. Argh Marina Siritis’ accent would switch between English and pseudo southern – it was weird.It was bad and the ending was unbelievable. I usually never tune in to scifi Saturday movies. Wish I had stuck to that policy *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:51 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [scifinoir2] SyFy's Annihilation Earth More and Less than Expected It being cold, windy, and rainy yesterday, I stayed in all day --well, after hitting the gym, and spending three freezing hours pulling weeds and raking leaves. At any rate, while decorating the Christmas tree, thought I'd have a go at the latest atrocity from the SyFy Originals factory. So, I tuned in to watch Annihilation Earth, a disaster flick starring Marina Counselor Troi Sirtis. I'd noted that the trailer didn't seem quite as cheesy as the typical SyFy fare, so thought I'd give it a try. It had to be better than the crappy end-of-world weather disaster flick preceding it, where the god B'al was trying to return, right? Well, yes and no. Annihilation Earth was a very uneven, very frustrating movie. As the trailer led me to believe, it was in many ways a cut above the typical SyFy fare. Star Luke Goss--the unlikey particle physicist built/looking like Jason Statham--acquited himself quite well with the sometimes weak dialog and plot. The man obviously has some native acting ability. Also doing a good job as a Arab physicist was Colin Samon, a well respected British actor with credits from Dr. Who to Law and Order UK. You may remember this brother as Helen Mirren's lover in Prime Suspect 2. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758760/ Watching these two men, I quickly realized this must be a UK-produced movie, which would explain the higher-calibre actors for such a movie. Even the lady who played Luke Goss' wife had just a little something extra in a typical, minor role. I wouldn't be surprised if she too has some real acting experience on her resume. The plot--about Arab terrorists seizing control of a supercollider and destroying Paris as part of a plain to destroy The West--was cliched, but serviceable. Again, there was just a little extra intelligence and thought behind it, as if the writers tried a little harder for realistic-seeming science and structure than the usual US-produced stuff gives us. At times it was actually thought-provoking, or at least not just crap. (See that Ba'al movie again). Another thing I liked was that the movie had minimal intrusive, bad CGI, one of my major complaints nowadays. Most of the SyFy movies have horrible CGI. I honestly think my old T42 laptop could do it better. I miss the days of models being built for movies, but accept taht well done CGI has its place. Badly done CGI? Gotta go. Annihiliation Earth certainly had CGI, and some of it was cheesy. But the movie didn't depend on CGI as much as other Originals, preferring instead to do location shots and filming in actual sets. Again, props to a UK production. But now for the bad. The movie was wildy uneven. Just as I'd get into the plot, the acting, or the dialogues ,something really stupid or cliched would happen: a silly and unnecessary gun battle in the wild, some dialogue so bad it was painful, lurches in location and plotting that made the movie a missmatch. Then there were Goss' associate scientists: two dudes
Re: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?
Moon was a moody little gem. Hope the son of bowie keeps it up! On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece *Moon*, Duncan Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is gearing up to tackle the SF thriller *Source Code*. According to a Tweet from Production Weekly http://twitter.com/prodweek/status/6555467682, Jones will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this spring in Montreal. Varietyhttp://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011029.html?categoryid=13cs=1reports that *Source Code* is the story of a soldier who finds himself repeatedly placed in the body of another person just before the detonation of a bomb on a commuter train. *Prince of Persia*'s Jake Gyllenhaal, currently starring in the drama *Brothers* with Natalie Portman and Tobey Maguire, has been in negotiations to play the lead, replacing Topher Grace. SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of *Quantum Leap Groundhog's Day*, and the time-travel show *Seven Days*. But if Jones showed such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in *Moon*, do you think he can pull off the premise of *Source Code*? http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/whats-next-for-moon-direc.php#more -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Man marries video game girlfriend
Doesnt seem strange to me. c w m On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Man marries video game girlfriend *Groom wore white suit. Bride dressed in red plastic case.* By Chris Gaylord | 12.02.09 YouTube Screenshot Man marries video game girlfriend: Nene Anegasaki, the virtual bride, is a character from the Japanese video game Love Plus. -- Oh, Japan. Land of techno toiletshttp://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2008/10/30/brief-history-of-japan%E2%80%99s-culture-of-techno-toilets/, seven-patty burgershttp://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/10/23/only-in-japan-the-burger-king-windows-7-whopper/, and where a man can marry his video game girlfriend. Mazel tov to the groom and virtual bride! Last week, a Japanese man, who goes by the name SAL9000, tied the knot with Nene Anegasaki, a character from the digital dating simulator Love Plus. The two had flirted for some time through SAL’s Nintendo DS. Clearly crazy for each other, the pair got hitched in a public ceremony in Tokyo on Sunday and streamed the whole thing over the Internet on the YouTube-like video website Nico Nico Douga. Check out a clip below. BoingBoing reportshttp://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/20/man-to-marry-his-vid.htmlthat the event included a DJ, MC, priest, and speeches from the best man and from a friend of Ms. Anegaskai’s (i.e. another character from the video game). The article quotes a letter from SAL saying that “there were over 3,000 connections and 7,000 comments made online, and the people who showed up in person at the ceremony also offered their congratulations. It was great.” The happy couple then honeymooned in Guam. They only needed one plane ticket, since SAL simply brought the Nintendo hand-held system with him. We’re guessing he also carried her over the threshold – good thing she weighs only 0.6 pounds. –– Video of him and his new bride: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsikPswAYUM –– While everything looked very serious, there was an ironic wink throughout the wedding – a puckish acknowledgment missing from other tales of virtual love taken to extremes. The same Boing Boing reporter recently wrote a piece for The New York Times documentinghttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/magazine/26FOB-2DLove-t.html?pagewanted=alla man’s attachment to a different video game character: Now, after three years together, they are virtually inseparable. “I’ve experienced so many amazing things because of her,” Nisan told me, rubbing Nemutan’s leg warmly. “She has really changed my life.” Nemutan doesn’t really have a leg. She’s a stuffed pillowcase — a 2-D depiction of a character, Nemu, from an X-rated version of a PC video game called Da Capo, printed on synthetic fabric. Thoughts? Concerns? Congratulations? Share them below or through Twitter. We’re @csmhorizonsblog http://twitter.com/csmhorizonsblog. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade
This article has it wrong. Its should have been a nostalga piece. These were inspired shows that should be motivation for new genre work Battlestar was a fluke. c w m On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Reboot This! 10 Sci-Fi TV Shows Ready for Upgrade - By Scott Thill http://www.wired.com/underwire/author/morphizm/ [image: Email Author] eraserhe...@gmail.com - December 1, 2009 | - 4:53 pm | - Categories: sci-fi http://www.wired.com/underwire/category/sci-fi/, television http://www.wired.com/underwire/category/television/ - [image: sci-fi-reboot-combo] The operating systems of *Star Trek*, *The Prisoner*, *Astro Boy* and *V*have all been rebooted for Generation Xbox this year, with varying degrees of success. What science fiction series is next for a 21st-century upgrade? Try stuffing these 10 television shows in your replicators. With the right approaches, these series – some old, some new – could all be turned into TV that is both thought-provoking and entertaining. Have your own ideas for sci-fi reboots that really ought to happen? Let us know in the comments below. Buck Rogers This show is perhaps an obvious choice, given the acclaimed reboot of *Battlestar Galactica*, the prime-time compatriot of *Buck Rogers in the 25th Century*. The two original ’70s television shows represented underwhelming attempts at capitalizing on the success of *Star Wars* (although the *Buck Rogershttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_rogers * lineage extends back to the ’40s and influenced auteurs like George Lucas). A cerebral, thorough reimagining of Buck Rogers — building on the intrepid character introduced in Amazing Stories and developed in the first sci-fi radio show http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Rogers#Radio – could reap futuristic fruit. (We’re hoping Frank Miller can bring *Buck Rogers* to movie screenshttp://www.cinematical.com/2009/01/13/watch-this-frank-millers-buck-rogerssuccessfully, but after seeing what he did to *The Spirit http://www.wired.com/underwire/2008/12/review-the-fles*, that’s perhaps misguided.) The Twilight Zone No show on television resembles Rod Serling’s episodic sci-fi series, which debuted in 1959 and wrapped five incredibly influential seasons in 1964. Even the various series that followed, which shared *The Twilight Zonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_%281959_TV_series%29 *’s name, haven’t been able to build on the original’s ambition or success. (Jason Alexander as Deathhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_%282002_TV_series%29 ?) Maybe there’s no point polluting that good name any more, but it’s past time for a series like The Twilight Zone that marries psy-fi with sci-fi without blinking. The Middleman This hilarious, unfairly canceled sci-fi brain-fry masquerading as a teen soap doesn’t actually need a reboot. Minus some unnecessarily cute banter and quirkiness, the short-lived 2008 series was one of the funniest shows on television, sci-fi or not. The ABC Family series starred *Art School Confidential*’s Matt Keeslar, who was a brilliant mash of *Twin Peaks*‘ Agent Cooper and *The X-Files*‘ Fox Mulder. And executive producer Javier Grillo-Marxuachhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Grillo-Marxuachinjected more inside sci-fi and comics info into a single episode of The Middleman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Middleman_%28TV_series%29than most series do in a season. Syfy or someone needs to resuscitate this life-form, by any means necessary. Heroes It might seem like cheating to insert a sci-fi show that is currently in existence, but there are more than enough arguments to support the contention that *Heroes http://www.nbc.com/heroes/*, in its current form, is dead on arrival. Rather than exploring the boundless possibilities of an ability-infested superhumanity, NBC’s show has offered full-frontal assaults on reason and patience, often barely disguised as reactionary moralism. (Plus, it probably has more blondes per capita than any show, sci-fi or otherwise, on prime-time television.) Like *Lost*, *Heroes* can finish strong if its full potential is creatively unlocked. But the show might need to be killed so that it can live again. The Prisoner As I explained in my review of *The Prisoner*’s recent reboothttp://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/11/review-the-prisoner-2009, it’s not easy stumbling in the shadow of the late, great Patrick McGoohanhttp://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/11/the-prisoner-an-all-star-appreciation. But that doesn’t mean AMC’s *The Prisoner* 2.0 is where the game should end. McGoohan probed many dark corners of consumption, geopolitics and technology in his ’60s show, and those types of concerns have only intensified in the four decades since the last episode of The Prisoner was shot. Perhaps an animated series or some kind of sinister online experiment
Re: [scifinoir2] America's urgent wing crisis
LOL.. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Keith, brace for the rioting sure to break out here in Atlanta... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:59:18 + Subject: [scifinoir2] America's urgent wing crisis www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped1127wings_newnov27,0,637059.story chicagotribune.com America's urgent wing crisis By Dennis O'Toole November 27, 2009 Look on my wings, ye hungry, and despair. -- Percy Bysshe Shelley The United States faces a severe chicken wing shortage, yet you'll be forgiven for not knowing this. The media are distracted by less important shortages, like flu vaccines and full-time jobs. The talking heads of cable TV prattle on about the usual nonsense: the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the on-going financial crisis, our broken health care system, and the increasing likelihood of mass extinctions from global warming. I'm sorry, am I boring you? Probably. What the media don't understand is: We have bigger pieces of meat to fry. Chicken breasts, namely, since the price of wings now rivals that of cocaine. Early this month the U.S. Department of Agriculture reported -- in a tone I'd call alarmist were I not so freaked out myself -- that poultry production is down 3.5 percent. The USDA drove this point (and the knife) home Nov. 18, in its normally hilarious, Weekly Estimated Slaughter of U.S. Broiler/Fryers and Fowl: The estimated number of broiler-fryers available for slaughter the week ending 21-Nov-09 is 148.4 million head compared to 158.9 million head slaughtered the same week last year. Let me put the chilling language of bureaucracy in terms you may better understand: There are 10.5 million fewer chickens to eat right now than a year ago, and, therefore, 21 million fewer wings. Demand, meanwhile, remains steadfast and unwavering. As a result, chicken breasts are cheaper than wings for the first time in the recorded history of things like this. Bars and restaurants all over our once-great nation have responded by booting wings from the menu. Such an act of cowardice is akin to spitting on a bald eagle or putting an American flag in the dishwasher. Worse, many of these treasonous trattorias have debased the wing by introducing the boneless wing. I can barely type that phrase without vomiting. A boneless wing is an abomination, like a godless church, an Abe Lincoln-less penny, or an episode of Family Matters without Urkel. You simply cannot have a chicken wing without the bone and -- far, far more important -- the skin. So what are these pretenders to the throne? Not wings at all, just pieces of breast meat! Wings are a delicacy thanks to the optimum skin-to-meat-to-bone ratio (exactly 1.618033). Breasts, on the other hand, are so tasteless that most cultures use them as packing material. What is President Barack Obama doing about this? Nothing. Not once has he addressed Congress on the matter. Not once has he made a surprise visit to Baghdad to discuss it with his generals. Not once has he asked the Federal Drug Administration to release its hot sauce stockpile. That's called socialism. I'm pretty sure, at least. As far as I can glean from current usage, socialism is whatever bothers me about Obama. Mr. Obama: Stop dithering. Restore the 10-cent wing night. Make the boneless wing a felony. And bring back Family Matters. God that Urkel was funny. Dennis O'Toole is a writer and improv performer living in Chicago. Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune -- Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslideid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] article: Man controlled robotic hand with thoughts - Yahoo! News
I thought about that RealDoll thing then I realized that I liked flesh. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: There are some guys out there that are hard at work making robo-women with artificial intelligence coupled with a robotic body with sensory feedback and speech. It is predicted that they will have a working prototype completed in the next 5 years! There are also the guys that have relationships with RealDolls. (Life sized latex dolls.) That all branches off into a different topic behind their motivations for seeking that sort of relationship. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: No he wouldnt. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm but would you really want that? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Charles Sheehan-Miles char...@sheehanmiles.net wrote: I'm waiting to be able to control my _wife_ with my thoughts. That will be newsworthy. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Experts: Man controlled robotic hand with thoughts - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091202/ap_on_sc/eu_italy_robotic_hand -- --- Charles Sheehan-Miles 202-412-2433 | char...@sheehanmiles.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/sheehanmiles -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] article: Man controlled robotic hand with thoughts - Yahoo! News
Doesnt matter. Part of the feeling is knowing it is a real person. Changing smell, sweating and the whole 9.5 yards. We would have to live in Kubriks A.I world and we dont live there. (I suspect Rave does though..lol) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: What if you couldn't tell the difference between flesh and the synthetic equivalent? What if they made it so an electrical field traveled along the surface of the synthetic skin that gave the appearance of real skin? (touch, feel, heat, scent) I think that the level at which some people would be tempted to explore the artificial equivalent would vary but the closer you get to the real thing the more likely people will try it. But then again, I believe that people are alot more open minded to trying things like that especially if pleasure is involved. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: I thought about that RealDoll thing then I realized that I liked flesh. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: There are some guys out there that are hard at work making robo-women with artificial intelligence coupled with a robotic body with sensory feedback and speech. It is predicted that they will have a working prototype completed in the next 5 years! There are also the guys that have relationships with RealDolls. (Life sized latex dolls.) That all branches off into a different topic behind their motivations for seeking that sort of relationship. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.comwrote: No he wouldnt. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm but would you really want that? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Charles Sheehan-Miles char...@sheehanmiles.net wrote: I'm waiting to be able to control my _wife_ with my thoughts. That will be newsworthy. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Experts: Man controlled robotic hand with thoughts - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091202/ap_on_sc/eu_italy_robotic_hand -- --- Charles Sheehan-Miles 202-412-2433 | char...@sheehanmiles.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/sheehanmiles -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman
I knew there was something about that Fear Factor guy. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few people that have serious skills that you wouldn't tell by looking at them. For example, the comedian Joe Rogan is a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and won the US title 4 times and a Grand Champion title, but he is more known for his standup comedy and being a host on tv. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: yeah, Seagal actually trained in Japan to a real master, when he was younger. As far as that goes, he's the real deal. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 4:00:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman Keith, I didn't know that. Surprising how little I know about the man, considering how big a star he is. (Pun not intended in the least.) That would make it fun, as I'm a jeet kune tao practitioner. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:56:40 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman although, as a true master of akijutsu (not the watered down akido), he'd be formidable even with his current girth - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:28:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman Puh-LEEZE, Mr Worf. He's as wide as he is tall, from the snippets I've seen. If I were of a criminal nature, and I ran across him, he'd end up vertical. (They'd probably catch me anyway, because I'd be LMNAATWO.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:29:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Steven Seagal: Lawman I found out that he is in a little town in Georgia so you guys better watch out down there! :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw the commercial for this and my visceral reaction was really? ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Starts tomorrow 10pm. Join me for the trainwreck... :) Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Windows Live™ Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. Learn more.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 -- Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- READ MY BLOG http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Precious moment
That is exactly why you should see the movie.. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: They're doing hella good with the book now as well. We're selling a ton. I will, alas be missing this one. It's gonna be here or is already playing Austin. I can't watch movies with child abuse of any sort. My emotional reaction is overwhelming and takes a very long time, several days, to overcome. As awesome as this film sounds, I don't have that energy to give to anything right now Bosco --- On *Tue, 11/17/09, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Precious moment To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 9:34 AM Saw sneak peak of Precious last night. I have never seen anything so soul crushing and life affirming. An amazing achievement. ~rave! -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] O/t M$ Bans 600,000+ Xbox Live Users For Modding
Tough love. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm Microsoft is serious about stamping out Xbox moddinghttp://www.dailytech.com/Xbox+360s+Firmware+Hacked/article1263.htm. Modding involves using hardware or software hacks to circumvent the protection technology on a video game consolehttp://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm#. Modding has some morally ambiguous uses -- such as installing an alternative OS, or playing games/DVDs from outside your zone (both practices are technically illegal according to some sources and/or violate you EULA). However, one less morally ambiguous cause for modding is to allow pirated games to play just like legally purchased discs. The console makers, including Microsofthttp://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm#, have pushed for international legislation banning modding, which they say is driving piracy. The results were showcased in the recent arrest of a Cal State student by federal agents. The student had been making and selling modded Xboxes, a crime that could earn him 10 years in prisonhttp://www.dailytech.com/Xbox+Modding+Could+Earn+Cal+State+Student+10+Years+of+Hard+Prison+Time/article15896.htmaccording to authorities. While Microsoft obviously cannot pursue that kind of legal action against every owner of a modded Xbox, it has just taken a sweeping step to try to punish those who mod. It has just issued a large set of bans disconnecting, according to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm *BBC News *, over 600,000 Xbox 360 users from Xbox Live, the company's popular online gaming servicehttp://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm#. With approximately 20 million current Xbox Live subscribers, this represents as much as a 3 percent cut to Microsoft's total online gaming population. A statement released from Microsoft reiterated that modding violates the console's terms of use and that the result will be terminated service. Writes the company, All consumers should know that piracy is illegal and that modifying their Xbox 360 consolehttp://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm#to play pirated discs violates the Xbox Live terms of use, will void their warranty and result in a ban from Xbox Live. The health of the video game businesshttp://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Bans+60+Xbox+Live+Users+For+Modding/article16795.htm#depends on customers paying for the genuine products and services they receive from manufacturers, retailers, and the third parties that support them. Banned users can play games offline as if nothing happened. However, when they try to log into their Xbox Live account, they now receive a message stating, Your console has been banned from Xbox. Microsoft was tight lipped about how many users were cut off from the popular gaming service or how it identified them. A spokesperson merely commented, We do not reveal specifics, but can say that all consoles have been verified to have violated the terms of use. Recently, Microsoft has been working hard to keep a tighter grip on its Xbox revenue stream, following in the example of Apple, Inc. and others. Its new update reportedly will lock out third party storage solutionshttp://www.dailytech.com/PS3+Wins+a+Month+Microsoft+Plans+to+Lock+Out+ThirdParty+Xbox+Storage/article16557.htmfrom the console. Third party storage typically retails for much less that Microsoft's offerings. By locking out its competitors, Microsoft likely is hoping to tack on more earnings to its already substantial stream from the Xbox. -- -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands Smallville role
I dont get it...DC went out of their way in other projects to make Waller a very unattractive lady... Weird c w m On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah she was good in that, indeed! Wonder why they couldn't find a sister closer in skin color to Waller, who's pretty dark? Lorraine Toussaint is a very good actress. Speaking of Waller, did you ever see that Justice League United ep where she and Batman of the future (the young man from Batman Beyond) had a discussion? It takes place about 40 - 50 years in our future. Waller confesses to her role in trying to create the new Batman for that time. What she did (I won't spoil it for you if you haven't seen it) was mind boggling. And prior to that, I loved her complicity in the long running battle of parts of the government against the JL, and how she then joined the League when she realized they were less dangerous than her former ally, Luthor. Complicated woman. - Original Message - From: bruce harden bhsleepystude...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:05:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands Smallville role yeah but when it comes to being large and in charge . nobody does it lie pam grier. remember law an order svu when she was part of the federal porno investigators? no one in my my memory has ever locked stablers heels like her. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Grier is built *nothing* like Waller! They need somebody like the fat Michael Clarke Duncan! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:16:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands Smallville role Hot and evil... now that's what I'm talkin' about! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:39 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Pam Grier lands Smallville role http://aikairi.notlong.com LOS ANGELES, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- U.S. actress Pam Grier has signed on to play evil Agent Amanda Waller on TV's Smallville, sources told TVGuide.com. Grier, 60, was most recently a cast member on the Showtime series The L Word. Her film credits include Jackie Brown, Escape from L.A., Foxy Brown, Fort Apache the Bronx and Something Wicked This Way Comes. TVGuide.com said the actress is expected to appear in multiple episodes of Smallville, starting in January. -- Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more.http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] SGU Thoughts
Leave Mcguyver alone...he knows not what he eats.. c w m On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:50 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote: *As far as Richard Dean, perhaps he has being dialing up a buffet universe. * *--Lavender* *From:* Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:41 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [scifinoir2] SGU Thoughts Still watching the show, and still enjoying it for the most part. Interesting how dark they're really going. For example, I thought the people back on Earth were pretty damn callous at how they wanted the Destiny crew to try using a star to power the gate. They had this attitude of it's worth the risk, but the passengers and crew weren't so sanguine! There seems to be a lot of sinister things going on behind the scenes, which I guess will be revealed in time. Even Jack O'Neill is given a bit of an edge. When Young first told Jack they were having problems on Destiny, his attitude was Fix it. Of course he's always there for Young when he needs help, but the attitude was a bit offputting to me. Tough love so Young doesn't freak out in the face of impossible odds, perhaps? I also admit that even I now would like to see something in the plots besides the crisis-aboard-ship each week. Are they through with the element-themed shows--Fire, Water, Air, etc? I'm still trying to figure out how the Destiny is supposedly locked into its singular journey across space, its twelve-hour layover limit, yet Rush can at least tell it things like We need to stop to find water. How is it he can communicate that and get a response, but can't say something like Stop the countdown, we have people still not on board!, or, Don't jump yet, our shuttle hasn't returned! ? And, while Destiny is old and locked on a course, its systems failing, I'm not getting why its base programming doesn't force it to stop and re-evaluate things once humans were on board? Shouldn't its prime directive require it to stop and await instructions, instead of kidnapping them on its crazy ride to nowhere? Did the Ancients not build in failsafes and automatic overrides, 'cause I can't get why the ship is still moving on singlemindedly, creating gates along the way and for the most part ignoring the humans? Finally, those consciousness-exchanging co mmunication devices are an awfully convenient plot device, huh? Billions of light years across the galaxy, and they do perfect communications. And are there any protocols established for using the damn things, for respecting the host's body? I mean, Eli and Chloe go out partying in their hosts' bodies, and Chloe even gets hers drunk. What would the hosts think waking up the next morning with a major hangover? And Colonel Young having sex with his estranged wife while in the body of Colonel Telford---huh? Now, while I get that Young would want to get with his ex--she's gorgeous!--isn't it a bit weird to do it in the body of a guy he clearly dislikes? And I don't know about you, but isn't a bit odd to think of your wife *liking* another man's body making love to her? I'm pretty damn sure that, once back on the ship, I'd be thinking about that, and I'd start having real doubts about exactly *who* the wife was reacting to, you know? And, as evidenced by Telford knocking on her door at the end of the show, I'd be *real* concerned she might start liking his *body* regardless of whose mind is in it! And one last thing--what the hell has Richard Dean Anderson been eating in the last couple of years?? -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] New Member introduction
Howdy... On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Patricia pacd97...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all I just signed up this morning and I am looking forward to the discussions. At first glance this is an active group with diverse thoughts. BTW, yes I am a writer but I promise not to take advantage of my membership with promos :) Thanks for having me! Pat Cromwell http://www.patcromwell.com/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night
Guess I have not seen the Storm fake in question.Is it a decent stroyline? c w m - B Smithdaikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two different covers for issue 3. The one in the link was a bloodied Dove backed up against a wall with the Black Lanterns coming towards her. The Terra and the other dead Titans cover is the George Perez variant. The covers you're referring are from issue 1 of the series and the other is the issue 3 variant Perez cover. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: The two blackest night covers i saw had a dead blonde titan kissing Beast Boy and one with her hands up controlling rock..sounds like terra to me On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: It's Dove. Her former partner Hawk/Monarch/Extant becoming one of the Black Lanterns is part of the storyline. Also Terra was a blonde and Dove has white/silver hair and the costume is very different. The original Terra is also one of the Black Lanterns. Apparently there is a new Terra and she's a brunette with a different origin and costume. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote: I think that might be Terraand not Dove. c w m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: No, rave. That's a funny angle on her, making he rloook darker-skinned than she is. Dove is one pale little thang. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:08:46 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night I don't read Teen Titans (or any other comic, currently) so tell me true - is the woman on the cover of this issue (link below) some kind of broke ass Storm? ~rave? http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/10/29/new-comics-10-28-09/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night
I think that might be Terraand not Dove. c w m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: No, rave. That's a funny angle on her, making he rloook darker-skinned than she is. Dove is one pale little thang. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:08:46 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night I don't read Teen Titans (or any other comic, currently) so tell me true - is the woman on the cover of this issue (link below) some kind of broke ass Storm? ~rave? http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/10/29/new-comics-10-28-09/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Teen Titans: Blackest Night
The two blackest night covers i saw had a dead blonde titan kissing Beast Boy and one with her hands up controlling rock..sounds like terra to me On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: It's Dove. Her former partner Hawk/Monarch/Extant becoming one of the Black Lanterns is part of the storyline. Also Terra was a blonde and Dove has white/silver hair and the costume is very different. The original Terra is also one of the Black Lanterns. Apparently there is a new Terra and she's a brunette with a different origin and costume. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote: I think that might be Terraand not Dove. c w m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...wrote: No, rave. That's a funny angle on her, making he rloook darker-skinned than she is. Dove is one pale little thang. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:08:46 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Teen Titans: Blackest Night I don't read Teen Titans (or any other comic, currently) so tell me true - is the woman on the cover of this issue (link below) some kind of broke ass Storm? ~rave? http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2009/10/29/new-comics-10-28-09/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The original V
I am not sure if i should watch the original before seeing the new one. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The original mini-series was well done. Watching it again from the beginning was a nice refresher. The tv series had a much lower budget and a much smaller cast which made it feel more like the A-Team vs the aliens. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I have been watching the original V rebroadcast on syfy. Watching the show I can see many of the sets that were used on STNG, Space 1999, and other shows that took me down a scifi memory lane. :) I also noticed one of the subplots was used in Independence day. -- -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] EW review of V
That is an interesting question. I think African looking aliens would cause a stir. Half of the world would think black folks are aliens and the other half will realize that we might be related to aliens. but in all seriousness If I wanted to enslave the human race I would make sure I was a hot European Brunette (blonde is too obvious). Kill them all.and thanks for all the fish... c w m On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: My question is would you be accepting of them if they were a different race other than white? What if they looked Asian or Middle Eastern? Or heaven help us, of African decent? Would they be as trusting? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: The first paragraph of Entertainment Weekly's review of V: A shrewd take on both sci-fi and the media, V is an excellently acted what-if-aliens-landed show, a savvy updating of the 1983 cult miniseries. The premise is irresistible: What if the aliens looked hot and promised friendship and advanced technology, but were secretly planning to exterminate everyone on Earth? That would put the planet in a bit of a pickle, wouldn't it? I mean, yes, extermination = bad, but hot, disease - curing aliens...you might take your chances, right? Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- clockworkman blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://stringtheory.podbean.com Netflix Friends http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P5Vr384ukvNnY78xUJOT
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: EW review of V
I am convinced they are aliens anyway... (will and halle) c w m - Mr. Worfhellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I would be down with them from word one, but I don't know about white America. I am sure that if they were pretty that many folks would be conflicted. I think their initial looks would make a huge difference. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: What if they were of African-American descent but looked like Will Smith and Halle Berry? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: My question is would you be accepting of them if they were a different race other than white? What if they looked Asian or Middle Eastern? Or heaven help us, of African decent? Would they be as trusting? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: The first paragraph of Entertainment Weekly's review of V: A shrewd take on both sci-fi and the media, V is an excellently acted what-if-aliens-landed show, a savvy updating of the 1983 cult miniseries. The premise is irresistible: What if the aliens looked hot and promised friendship and advanced technology, but were secretly planning to exterminate everyone on Earth? That would put the planet in a bit of a pickle, wouldn't it? I mean, yes, extermination = bad, but hot, disease - curing aliens...you might take your chances, right? Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo?
You all assume that there would be an alternate you. The percentages of genetic material traded during conception is a random concept. This supposed theme assumes we as persnalities would be intact. We assume too much I think... c w m - Keith Johnsonkeithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I think the idea is that if you venture too far from the basic pattern--the species, etc.--it's no longer you. After all, the idea is parallel universes--alternate realities. So, you could, in some universe, be a gay cowboy running dilithium ore on a space barge, but the genetic makeup would still be you. If you were, say, a giant crab creature, it wouldn't be you, it'd be someone else. The idea here is that the physical and mental selves are just variations on a basic theme. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 11:16:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? Exactly! There could be so many other alternate versions. Would they still be you?? What if he went to an alternate universe and he was his anti-matter self? Or instead of humans evolving from something similar to apes, we were evolved from caterpillars or wolves? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I don't think every reality's Law was a skilled martial artist, just the one with the good cop and the bad cop. The convict Law (the one who was killed during a transfer) simply kicked in the bars of a cell because he was supper strong. As for your alternate selves being radically different from you, that's an interesting point. Is part of that alternate reality a being that is similar to you, e.g., a carbon-based, bipedal humanoid in all cases? Would a mutipedal insectoid with a carapace still be you? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:45:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? I had problems with the idea of the One. Every universe won't have the same guy with the same martial art skills etc. on that planet. There are so many variables that the variables themselves would be infinite as well. For example there could be a planet that has a look alike that is stronger and faster. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Was Seraph the messenger dude who fought Neo so he could really know him? Not the biggest lost. The One is one of my fav scifi movies of recent years. It's not the greatest, by any means, but it's fun, has some good action, and enough intelligently written scifi to make it engaging. I have a couple of quibbles with it, notably the concept that the number of parallel universes would be finite, in the low hundreds. Realistically the multiverse would be infinite, so Law would never be able to kill all of his alternate selves. But that's a minor point. It's one of those scifi movies you can sit down and watch at any time and enjoy it. But, given that the movie was written by Glenn Morgan and James Wong--who worked on The X-Files, Millennium, Space: Above and Beyond, among others--that's no surprise. It's the kind of fun scifi we don't get enough of nowadays. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 3:41:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? Supposedly Will was their Neo and Val Kilmer was Morpheus. Both ended up bowing out of the film. I think Jet Li turned down the role of Seraph to do The One. I also read that he was concerned that the amount of time needed to film both sequels would cause other conflicts. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Hey Rave: I’m pretty sure Will Smith turned it down, just like Jet Li turned down a part in it. They wanted Smith first. At least that is how I remember Smith and Jada telling it in interviews. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:36 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Glen Turman original Han Solo? At the time the Wochowski brothers were not well known and this was their first big film. But I think if things were different it would have been incredible. Aliah, Will Smith? Wow. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@... wrote: but Rave, i thought the Will turned down Matrix because he was about 2 do Wild Wild West? at least that is what he said when they interviewed him a few years ago. he said that when the
