Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fav B Movie - Worse B Movie

2007-04-24 Thread Oyabun of Beats
Wasn't Decoys a (gasp) Sci-FI Original?

If so, I think I remember being  a little impressed by the opening  
cinematography, then being horribly put off by the opening bit of  
dialogue.

Do any of the Robocops count as B movies now? I think it's clear  
that  Robocop  2 deserves to  be on all of our lists.

On Apr 24, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.  
Minor) wrote:

 I really liked Screamers.  Didn't see SSDoomtrooper

 Tracey

 B. Smith wrote:

 SS Doomtrooper and Screamers are two of my faves.

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 A modern one that I'm really liking is Decoys, starring Nicole
 Eggert. it's about a group of nubile cheerleaders on a small college
 campus who are actually aliens that feed on humans. It's camp and
 funny and very entertaining. You may remember i posted on it last
 year while watching it at 4 am!

 And wonder of wonders, it's airing on Sci Fi *right now*!

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 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 all this talk of really bad movies, bad me decide to post the
 following...

 What is your favorite B-Movie and what do you think is the worse
 b-movie
 you have seen. My favorite is Night of the Comet.

 Tracey



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Re: [scifinoir2] Fav B Movie - Worse B Movie

2007-04-23 Thread Oyabun of Beats
My Gods. Night Of The Comet  is my #2 of ALL. TIME. Every time it's  
on I HAVE to watch it. It's got everything you don't need! Zombies, a  
cheerleader, video games, wack  cover songs of 80's music...Chakotay  
as a truck  driver...all it needs is Kung Fu and it's a masterpiece  
of a horrible B movie.

But, my number ONE choice? Are you KIDDING?  Millennium. 1989.  
Cheryl  Ladd, Kris Kristofferson,  Daniel J. Travanti. We've talked  
about this already. It simply is THE worst science fiction B movie of  
all time. YES. Including Star Trek 5.

Behold, the plot: An investigator seeking the cause of an airline  
disaster discovers the involvement of an organisation of time  
travellers from a future Earth irreparably polluted who seek to  
rejuvenate the human race from those about to die in the past. Based  
on a novel by John Varley.


On Apr 22, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.  
Minor) wrote:

 all this talk of really bad movies, bad me decide to post the  
 following...

 What is your favorite B-Movie and what do you think is the worse b- 
 movie
 you have seen.  My favorite is Night of the Comet.

 Tracey



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[scifinoir2] Rick Berman to write book about Star Trek

2007-04-23 Thread Oyabun of Beats

[source: http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/20/berman-to-write-book-on-trek- 
experience/]

Berman To Write Book On Trek Experience
April 20, 2007
by Anthony Pascale

In the latest issue of Star Trek Magazine, Trek’s longtime producer  
Rick Berman has a sort of ‘exit interview.’ The interview was  
conducted last December, shortly before he packed up to vacate his  
offices on the Paramount lot after 22 years with the studio. When  
asked if he is considering writing about about his experiences not  
only did he say he would, but he has already started…

I have started writing a book because I realized that in 1986, when  
Gene Roddenberry asked me to get involved  in work with him on this  
thing, the number of stories that I have accumulated is amazing.

Berman says that the book (which does not yet have a publisher) will  
be ‘warts and all,’ but says the focus will be on all the ‘wonderful  
and bizarre and funny things’ that happened during his 18 years with  
the franchise. Trek’s former honcho is also reaching out to former  
colleagues to help him recall certain events. Berman has witnessed  
more Trek history than just about anyone, and so a candid chronicle  
of that time could be a good read.

In addition to the book Berman says he he has some some other  
projects going, but provided little in detail: There are two  
projects that are possibly in the works here at Paramount and two  
that are not connected to the television business, but time will tell. 

 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Fav B Movie - Worse B Movie

2007-04-23 Thread Oyabun of Beats
I submit that  Prince Of Space should be counted as one of the  
greatest MST3K movies of all time. I have yet to hear bootblacker  
ever uttered anywhere else as a name of a profession.

Prince Of Space makes Flash Gordon look like Carl Sagan wrote it.

Greatest (therefore worst) bad movie actor? Anyone?

On Apr 23, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Martin wrote:

 The Manitou
 Incubus (the last scene in that one freaked me out of the park-  
 *never again* will I watch a movie while on medication)
 Battle Beyond The Stars (John-Boy? Is that really *you*?)
 The Green Slime (Luv that theme song!)
 Diabolik (watch the MST3K version)

 As for whether they're my faves or my worst? Depends on what day  
 you catch me.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here are some other B-movies I like

 20
 Million Miles to Earth
 Anything Edgar Rice Burroughs
 Rocky Horror Picture Show
 Them

 There are a few Vincent Price, Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing, Doug
 McClure movies that I should include, but Their names escape me.

 Tracey
 Martin wrote:
 
  Millennium. Qualifies as Excederin Headache Number 0...
 
  Oyabun of Beats   wrote: My Gods. Night Of The
  Comet is my #2 of ALL. TIME. Every time it's
  on I HAVE to watch it. It's got everything you don't need!  
 Zombies, a
  cheerleader, video games, wack cover songs of 80's music...Chakotay
  as a truck driver...all it needs is Kung Fu and it's a masterpiece
  of a horrible B movie.
 
  But, my number ONE choice? Are you KIDDING? Millennium. 1989.
  Cheryl Ladd, Kris Kristofferson, Daniel J. Travanti. We've talked
  about this already. It simply is THE worst science fiction B  
 movie of
  all time. YES. Including Star Trek 5.
 
  Behold, the plot: An investigator seeking the cause of an airline
  disaster discovers the involvement of an organisation of time
  travellers from a future Earth irreparably polluted who seek to
  rejuvenate the human race from those about to die in the past. Based
  on a novel by John Varley.
 
  On Apr 22, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
  Minor) wrote:
 
   all this talk of really bad movies, bad me decide to post the
   following...
  
   What is your favorite B-Movie and what do you think is the  
 worse b-
   movie
   you have seen. My favorite is Night of the Comet.
  
   Tracey
  
  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Matthew Fox To be Racer X

2007-04-20 Thread Oyabun of Beats
Oh my Gods does that really say Christina Ricci?!! Is this supposed  
to be like Fellini does Speed Racer? What kind of surreal casting  
IS this?


On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.  
Minor) wrote:

 Amen... I was not feeling Vince Vaughn at a all

 Tracey

 Martin wrote:

 Better him than Vince Vaughan.

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 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Fox Races To  
 Speed

 Matthew Fox (ABC's Lost) is in final negotiations to play Racer X in
 Larry and Andy Wachowski's upcoming live-action Speed Racer movie,
 according to The Hollywood Reporter. The movie, based on the 1960s
 animated TV series, comes from Warner Brothers and producer Joel  
 Silver.

 Australian actor Kick Gurry, meanwhile, is in negotiations to play
 Sparky, Speed Racer's hippie mechanic.

 Emile Hirsch, Christina Ricci, Susan Sarandon and John Goodman have
 already been cast in the film, which will shoot in the summer in  
 Berlin.
 Speed centers on a young race-car driver, Speed (Hirsch), and his  
 quest
 for glory in his gadget-laden Mach 5. Fox will play Speed's  
 mysterious
 racing rival, an enigmatic soldier of fortune. Fox will fit Speed  
 Racer
 in around the series' summer hiatus.

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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Music Execs Discuss Rap Lyrics]

2007-04-19 Thread Oyabun of Beats

The music industry has been meeting privately about important  
issues since the 80s. Yet somehow Napster still came and knocked us  
on our behinds. The current music industry would do better  to  meet   
privately  to  discuss how to have a business now that Eliot Spitzer  
has exposed payola to the public.  Because the solution to both  
problems is the same: sign better quality stuff. Major labels do not  
have that  luxury.  Good art can't be manufactured by large  
corporations. To have a meeting where everybody  in attendance is  
wither  former or current Def Jam employees or has some contractual  
obligation to Universal  Music Group is pointless. How can you  have  
all these people there  and the only artist  is T.I.? Nobody has  
Chuck D's number anymore? Nobody can get Latifah on the phone? This  
is an issue that must  be addressed by the artistic community. The  
consuming public has already spoken.  When you put Whisper Song on  
in a club, it is WOMEN who get up and dance. That  programming comes  
from somewhere,  and it AIN'T Ying Yang Twins. This has become a  
political smokescreen.  The issue is racism. The arena is  
contemporary media. It's not the fault of a contractually  obligated  
individual  to produce a product that does not sell.


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  Original Message 
 Subject:  Music Execs Discuss Rap Lyrics
 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:34:57 -0500
 From: Marsha Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 *http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070419/D8OJDDT00.html

 Music Execs Discuss Rap Lyrics
 *
 Apr 18, 10:40 PM (ET)

 By MARCUS FRANKLIN


 NEW YORK (AP) - In the wake of Don Imus' firing for his on-air slur
 about the Rutgers women's basketball team, a high-powered group of
 music-industry executives met privately Wednesday to discuss sexist  
 and
 misogynistic rap lyrics.

 During the furor that led to Imus' fall last week from his talk-radio
 perch, many of his critics carped as well about offensive language in
 rap music.

 The meeting, called by hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons' Hip-Hop Summit
 Action Network, was held at the New York home of Lyor Cohen, chairman
 and chief executive of U.S. music at Warner Music Group. The summit,
 which lasted several hours, did not result in any specific initiative.

 Organizers billed the gathering as a forum to discuss issues
 challenging the industry in the wake of controversy surrounding hip- 
 hop
 and the First Amendment. Afterward, they planned to hold a news
 conference at a Manhattan hotel
 http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070419/D8OJDDT00.html# to discuss
 initiatives agreed upon at the meeting. But by early afternoon, the
 news conference was postponed, because the meeting was still going on.


 After the meeting ended, it was unclear whether there would be another
 one. Simmons' publicist released a short statement that described the
 topic as a complex issue that involves gender, race, culture and
 artistic expression. Everyone assembled today takes this issue very
 seriously.

 Although no recommendations emerged, the gathering was significant for
 its who's-who list of powerful music executives.

 According to a roster released by Simmons on Wednesday, attendees
 included: Kevin Liles, executive vice president, Warner Music; L.A.
 Reid, chairman of Island Def Jam Music Group; Sylvia Rhone,  
 president of
 Motown Records and executive vice president of Universal Music Group;
 Mitch Bainwol, chairman and CEO of the Recording Industry  
 Association of
 America; and Damon Dash, Jay-Z's former Roc-A-Fella Records partner.
 Top-selling rapper T.I. also attended, organizers said.

 Simmons declined to comment through a spokeswoman. But he appeared  
 this
 week with others at a two-day town hall meeting on The Oprah Winfrey
 Show to discuss the issue. While Simmons, Liles and the rapper Common
 agreed there is a problem, Simmons cautioned against trying to limit
 rappers' free-speech rights.

 He said that poets always come under fire for their unsanitized
 descriptions of the world.

 We're talking about a lot of these artists who come from the most
 extreme cases of poverty and ignorance ... And when they write a song,
 and they write it from their heart, and they're not educated, and they
 don't believe there's opportunity, they have a right, they have a  
 right
 to say what's on their mind, he said.

 Whether it's our sexism, our racism, our homophobia or our violence,
 the hip-hop community sometimes can be a good mirror of our dirt and
 sometimes the dirt that we try to cover up, Simmons said.  
 Pointing at
 the conditions that create these words from the rappers ... should be
 our No. 1 concern.

 Common said criticism of rappers and their music should come with  
 love.
 When I talk to the cats, regardless of rap, when I talk to cats on  
 the
 street, they don't wanna be in that situation, the rapper said. We
 don't wanna 

[scifinoir2] Spider-Man: The Musical

2007-04-19 Thread Oyabun of Beats
from today's Hollywood Reporter:

Marvel spins Spider-Man into Broadway musical
By Borys Kit

April 20, 2007
Get ready for Spider-Man: The Broadway Musical.

That may not be the official title, but Marvel Studios is putting the  
pieces together for a musical on the Great White Way starring the  
popular superhero, which will be directed by Tony winner Julie  
Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for  
the project.

Auditions are taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the  
summer. No dates for a Broadway opening have been set.

Producing are Hello Entertainment/David Garfinkle, Martin McCallum,  
Marvel Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment. In addition to  
co-producing the show, Hello Entertainment is arranging all financing  
for the project.

While the Spider-Man musical marks the first time a Marvel character  
has been the subject of a Broadway show, it's not the first time a  
superhero has hit the stage. Superman was in the spotlight of It's a  
Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman, which opened at the Alvin Theatre  
in 1966. Despite fairly positive reviews, it closed a few months later.

Before becoming Marvel chairman, David Maisel spearheaded the 1999  
best musical Tony winner Fosse.

Taymor won two Tonys for direction and costume design for the  
Broadway production of The Lion King.


Re: [scifinoir2] Woman Offers Self for Video Game Gold

2007-04-17 Thread Oyabun of Beats
Agreed. The video game industry has been good to me since 2002, so  
I've been with you for a WHILE now.

This Japanese case was dope because it's like suing someone for  
jacking your graffiti style or because you called yourself DJ such- 
and-such when you know there's a DJ such and such in Miami. As I  
recall,  the reason there was ever a Notorious B.I.G. brand is  
because some wack emcee named Biggie Smalls tried to sue  just  as  
Ready to Die dropped.

I'm reminded of  how fans of adult  actress Asia Carrera came out and  
sent her money  when her husband died last year because she'd blown  
her fortune on online gambling.  This  woman WILL get what  she's  
looking for. And more. As soon as an advertiser figures out how to   
sponsor her in virtual  money,  she's good!

On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To step away for a moment from the heaviness of homicidal maniacs,  
 suicide bombers in Iraq, and administration missteps... For those  
 of you who don't pay attention to the video game world, it's a  
 multi-billion dollar market that by most accounts is surpassing  
 Hollywood in sales dollars. Video games are up there with  
 pornography and DVD/on-demand rentals in terms of money spent by  
 Americans each year. MMORPG's (Massively Multi-Player Online Role  
 Playing Games) have followings in the millions worldwide. In recent  
 years the phenomenon of creating/buying in-game characters hit.  
 Level up enough to make your wizard go from hobbit to Gandalf and  
 you have a hot commodity. Pimp your ride out with sufficient flash  
 and horsepower, and you have a monster that not only looks good,  
 but can smoke the competition on the streets. Three years ago a  
 Japanese dude brought an intellectual properties lawsuit against  
 another gamer who somehow managed to steal a virtual character the  
 guy had created.
 The plaintiff placed a dollar value on the game charcacter he  
 created, and sued for damages. Now video game makers allow you to  
 upgrade characters by using points won from other games, by  
 accumulating in-game money to be exchanged for the upgrades or  
 characters, or even by engaging in transactions through eBay! Many  
 of the most fanatic players clock 40+ hours per week easy just  
 playing their games, and their worlds of dragons, warriors and  
 wizards is a meaningful to them as ours is to us. So no surprise  
 that this happens. If people can sue for the theft of a virtual  
 character, why wouldn't some woman hit on using the world's oldest  
 bargaining chip to gain some quick and easy gaming money?

 You might want to stay abreast of the gaming and movie industries,  
 as the changes there will impact our society in ways you may not  
 have anticipated.

 And please: no corny jokes about her needing an epic mount!

 ***
 Woman Offers [Favors] for 'Warcraft' Gold
 By: Ruben Diaz
 For: Game Invasion
 Reports are circling around the Internet at a rapid pace about a  
 woman who had posted a personal ad on Craigslist.org offering  
 sexual favors in exchange for 'World of Warcraft' gold.

 Needing 5000 gold to purchase an 'Epic Flying Mount,' one of the  
 fastest mounts in the game, she offered anyone, male or female,  
 playing on her server the opportunity to perform a variety of  
 sexual acts in exchange for the in-game currency. Chief among her  
 deviant interests was finding a partner into role-playing, going so  
 far as to inform potential suitors that she has a costume ready for  
 the occasion.

 ClubSi.com managed to snag screenshots of the postings, including a  
 posting the next day about her success, before they were removed  
 from Craigslist.

 Obviously she didn't read the upcoming 'World of Warcraft'  
 development notes where her character class will be able to acquire  
 an epic mount (epic flying form) through a quest in lieu of  
 purchasing one.

 Look at this as an example of immediate vs. differed gratification,  
 kids.

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