Re: [scifinoir2] Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

2010-05-03 Thread Martin Baxter
I also think that there's something about cellphone towers and bees. There
used to be a T-Mobile cell tower near my house, and bees here were almost
non-existent. They took it down last year, and the bees have returned.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Thank you for mentioning this article. I was thinking about this topic
 yesterday. I suspect that because the bees were mostly from the same source
 that they don't have any resistance to whatever it is that is ailing them.
 (it could also be cellphones) Whatever it is they need to figure out
 something quick.

 Also there is something similar happening to bats as well.

 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, brent wodehouse 
 brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote:


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/02/food-fear-mystery-beehives-collapse

 Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee
 catastrophe

 The world may be on the brink of biological disaster after news that a
 third of US bee colonies did not survive the winter

 Alison Benjamin

 The Observer, Sunday 2 May 2010


 Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged
 from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a
 third of colonies have failed to survive the winter.

 The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in 2006,
 when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the
 disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than
 three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have
 died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the
 catastrophic fall in numbers.

 The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last
 winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of America
 and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS).

 The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to crops.
 It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee
 pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global
 economy.

 Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa
 mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition
 stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many
 colonies has also been dubbed Mary Celeste syndrome due to the absence
 of dead bees in many of the empty hives.

 US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax
 and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key
 problem. We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition,
 pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,
 said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory.

 A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal
 Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but
 pointed the finger at the irresponsible use of pesticides that may
 damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard
 Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: Bees contribute to global
 food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological
 disaster.

 Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial
 beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had
 been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying
 between May 2009 and April 2010. It's getting worse, he said. The AIA
 survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring
 losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of
 pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the
 effects might be.

 Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at 50%
 or greater. Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically
 sustainable for commercial beekeepers, he said, adding that a solution
 may be years away. Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars
 and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives
 are complex organisms.

 In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000
 honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett, president
 of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: Anecdotally, it is hugely
 variable. There are reports of some beekeepers losing almost a third of
 their hives and others losing none. Results from a survey of the
 association's 15,000 members are expected this month.

 John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers' Association, put losses
 among his 150 members at between a fifth and a quarter. Eight of his 36
 hives across the capital did not survive. There are still a lot of
 mysterious disappearances, he said. We are no nearer to knowing what is
 causing them.

 Bee farmers in Scotland have reported losses on the American scale for the
 past three years. 

Re: [scifinoir2] Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

2010-05-03 Thread Mr. Worf
It could be a combination of the cell phone towers and lack of diversity in
the bee population that allowed them to become exposed to different
diseases. Most of the bees that are used come from just a couple of sources
this creates potential weaknesses.

Back in the late 80s / early 90s the entire banana population was wiped out
due to disease because commercially they were using only one type of crop.
The type of banana that you and I enjoyed as a kid no longer exists on
planet earth.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 I also think that there's something about cellphone towers and bees. There
 used to be a T-Mobile cell tower near my house, and bees here were almost
 non-existent. They took it down last year, and the bees have returned.


 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Thank you for mentioning this article. I was thinking about this topic
 yesterday. I suspect that because the bees were mostly from the same source
 that they don't have any resistance to whatever it is that is ailing them.
 (it could also be cellphones) Whatever it is they need to figure out
 something quick.

 Also there is something similar happening to bats as well.

 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, brent wodehouse 
 brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote:


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/02/food-fear-mystery-beehives-collapse

 Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee
 catastrophe

 The world may be on the brink of biological disaster after news that a
 third of US bee colonies did not survive the winter

 Alison Benjamin

 The Observer, Sunday 2 May 2010


 Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged
 from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a
 third of colonies have failed to survive the winter.

 The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in
 2006,
 when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the
 disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than
 three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have
 died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the
 catastrophic fall in numbers.

 The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last
 winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of
 America
 and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS).

 The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to
 crops.
 It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee
 pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global
 economy.

 Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa
 mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition
 stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many
 colonies has also been dubbed Mary Celeste syndrome due to the absence
 of dead bees in many of the empty hives.

 US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax
 and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key
 problem. We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition,
 pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,
 said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory.

 A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal
 Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but
 pointed the finger at the irresponsible use of pesticides that may
 damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard
 Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: Bees contribute to global
 food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological
 disaster.

 Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial
 beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had
 been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying
 between May 2009 and April 2010. It's getting worse, he said. The AIA
 survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring
 losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of
 pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the
 effects might be.

 Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at
 50%
 or greater. Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically
 sustainable for commercial beekeepers, he said, adding that a solution
 may be years away. Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars
 and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives
 are complex organisms.

 In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000
 honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett,
 president
 of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: Anecdotally, it is hugely
 variable. There 

[scifinoir2] Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

2010-05-02 Thread brent wodehouse
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/02/food-fear-mystery-beehives-collapse

Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

The world may be on the brink of biological disaster after news that a
third of US bee colonies did not survive the winter

Alison Benjamin

The Observer, Sunday 2 May 2010


Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged
from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a
third of colonies have failed to survive the winter.

The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in 2006,
when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the
disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than
three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have
died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the
catastrophic fall in numbers.

The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last
winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of America
and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS).

The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to crops.
It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee
pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global
economy.

Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa
mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition
stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many
colonies has also been dubbed Mary Celeste syndrome due to the absence
of dead bees in many of the empty hives.

US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax
and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key
problem. We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition,
pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,
said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory.

A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal
Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but
pointed the finger at the irresponsible use of pesticides that may
damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard
Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: Bees contribute to global
food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological
disaster.

Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial
beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had
been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying
between May 2009 and April 2010. It's getting worse, he said. The AIA
survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring
losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of
pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the
effects might be.

Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at 50%
or greater. Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically
sustainable for commercial beekeepers, he said, adding that a solution
may be years away. Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars
and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives
are complex organisms.

In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000
honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett, president
of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: Anecdotally, it is hugely
variable. There are reports of some beekeepers losing almost a third of
their hives and others losing none. Results from a survey of the
association's 15,000 members are expected this month.

John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers' Association, put losses
among his 150 members at between a fifth and a quarter. Eight of his 36
hives across the capital did not survive. There are still a lot of
mysterious disappearances, he said. We are no nearer to knowing what is
causing them.

Bee farmers in Scotland have reported losses on the American scale for the
past three years. Andrew Scarlett, a Perthshire-based bee farmer and honey
packer, lost 80% of his 1,200 hives this winter. But he attributed the
massive decline to a virulent bacterial infection that quickly spread
because of a lack of bee inspectors, coupled with sustained poor weather
that prevented honeybees from building up sufficient pollen and nectar
stores.

The government's National Bee Unit has always denied the existence of CCD
in Britain, despite honeybee losses of 20% during the winter of 2008-09
and close to a third the previous year. It attributes the demise to the
varroa mite - which is found in almost every UK hive - and rainy summers
that stop bees foraging for food.

In a hard-hitting report last year, the National Audit Office suggested
that amateur beekeepers who failed to spot diseases in bees were a threat
to 

Re: [scifinoir2] Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

2010-05-02 Thread Martin Baxter
Sweet Deity...

When WILL humankind get the memo?[?]

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
 wrote:




 http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/02/food-fear-mystery-beehives-collapse

 Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

 The world may be on the brink of biological disaster after news that a
 third of US bee colonies did not survive the winter

 Alison Benjamin

 The Observer, Sunday 2 May 2010

 Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged
 from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a
 third of colonies have failed to survive the winter.

 The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in 2006,
 when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the
 disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than
 three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have
 died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the
 catastrophic fall in numbers.

 The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last
 winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of America
 and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS).

 The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to crops.
 It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee
 pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global
 economy.

 Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa
 mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition
 stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many
 colonies has also been dubbed Mary Celeste syndrome due to the absence
 of dead bees in many of the empty hives.

 US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax
 and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key
 problem. We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition,
 pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,
 said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory.

 A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal
 Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but
 pointed the finger at the irresponsible use of pesticides that may
 damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard
 Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: Bees contribute to global
 food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological
 disaster.

 Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial
 beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had
 been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying
 between May 2009 and April 2010. It's getting worse, he said. The AIA
 survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring
 losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of
 pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the
 effects might be.

 Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at 50%
 or greater. Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically
 sustainable for commercial beekeepers, he said, adding that a solution
 may be years away. Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars
 and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives
 are complex organisms.

 In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000
 honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett, president
 of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: Anecdotally, it is hugely
 variable. There are reports of some beekeepers losing almost a third of
 their hives and others losing none. Results from a survey of the
 association's 15,000 members are expected this month.

 John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers' Association, put losses
 among his 150 members at between a fifth and a quarter. Eight of his 36
 hives across the capital did not survive. There are still a lot of
 mysterious disappearances, he said. We are no nearer to knowing what is
 causing them.

 Bee farmers in Scotland have reported losses on the American scale for the
 past three years. Andrew Scarlett, a Perthshire-based bee farmer and honey
 packer, lost 80% of his 1,200 hives this winter. But he attributed the
 massive decline to a virulent bacterial infection that quickly spread
 because of a lack of bee inspectors, coupled with sustained poor weather
 that prevented honeybees from building up sufficient pollen and nectar
 stores.

 The government's National Bee Unit has always denied the existence of CCD
 in Britain, despite honeybee losses of 20% during the winter of 2008-09
 and close to a third the previous year. It attributes the demise to the
 varroa mite - which is found in almost every UK 

Re: [scifinoir2] Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

2010-05-02 Thread Mr. Worf
Thank you for mentioning this article. I was thinking about this topic
yesterday. I suspect that because the bees were mostly from the same source
that they don't have any resistance to whatever it is that is ailing them.
(it could also be cellphones) Whatever it is they need to figure out
something quick.

Also there is something similar happening to bats as well.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:48 AM, brent wodehouse 
brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote:


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/02/food-fear-mystery-beehives-collapse

 Fears for crops as shock figures from America show scale of bee catastrophe

 The world may be on the brink of biological disaster after news that a
 third of US bee colonies did not survive the winter

 Alison Benjamin

 The Observer, Sunday 2 May 2010


 Disturbing evidence that honeybees are in terminal decline has emerged
 from the United States where, for the fourth year in a row, more than a
 third of colonies have failed to survive the winter.

 The decline of the country's estimated 2.4 million beehives began in 2006,
 when a phenomenon dubbed colony collapse disorder (CCD) led to the
 disappearance of hundreds of thousands of colonies. Since then more than
 three million colonies in the US and billions of honeybees worldwide have
 died and scientists are no nearer to knowing what is causing the
 catastrophic fall in numbers.

 The number of managed honeybee colonies in the US fell by 33.8% last
 winter, according to the annual survey by the Apiary Inspectors of America
 and the US government's Agricultural Research Service (ARS).

 The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to crops.
 It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon honeybee
 pollination, which means that bees contribute some £26bn to the global
 economy.

 Potential causes range from parasites, such as the bloodsucking varroa
 mite, to viral and bacterial infections, pesticides and poor nutrition
 stemming from intensive farming methods. The disappearance of so many
 colonies has also been dubbed Mary Celeste syndrome due to the absence
 of dead bees in many of the empty hives.

 US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of bees, wax
 and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides are a key
 problem. We believe that some subtle interactions between nutrition,
 pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,
 said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS's bee research laboratory.

 A global review of honeybee deaths by the World Organisation for Animal
 Health (OIE) reported last week that there was no one single cause, but
 pointed the finger at the irresponsible use of pesticides that may
 damage bee health and make them more susceptible to diseases. Bernard
 Vallat, the OIE's director-general, warned: Bees contribute to global
 food security, and their extinction would represent a terrible biological
 disaster.

 Dave Hackenberg of Hackenberg Apiaries, the Pennsylvania-based commercial
 beekeeper who first raised the alarm about CCD, said that last year had
 been the worst yet for bee losses, with 62% of his 2,600 hives dying
 between May 2009 and April 2010. It's getting worse, he said. The AIA
 survey doesn't give you the full picture because it is only measuring
 losses through the winter. In the summer the bees are exposed to lots of
 pesticides. Farmers mix them together and no one has any idea what the
 effects might be.

 Pettis agreed that losses in some commercial operations are running at 50%
 or greater. Continued losses of this magnitude are not economically
 sustainable for commercial beekeepers, he said, adding that a solution
 may be years away. Look at Aids, they have billions in research dollars
 and a causative agent and still no cure. Research takes time and beehives
 are complex organisms.

 In the UK it is still too early to judge how Britain's estimated 250,000
 honeybee colonies have fared during the long winter. Tim Lovett, president
 of the British Beekeepers' Association, said: Anecdotally, it is hugely
 variable. There are reports of some beekeepers losing almost a third of
 their hives and others losing none. Results from a survey of the
 association's 15,000 members are expected this month.

 John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers' Association, put losses
 among his 150 members at between a fifth and a quarter. Eight of his 36
 hives across the capital did not survive. There are still a lot of
 mysterious disappearances, he said. We are no nearer to knowing what is
 causing them.

 Bee farmers in Scotland have reported losses on the American scale for the
 past three years. Andrew Scarlett, a Perthshire-based bee farmer and honey
 packer, lost 80% of his 1,200 hives this winter. But he attributed the
 massive decline to a virulent bacterial infection that quickly spread
 because of a lack of bee inspectors, coupled with sustained poor weather
 that prevented honeybees from