Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Martin Baxter
(standing ovation)





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I never believed the worst in racism was over. I never believed we were 
post-racial, or anything close to it. As someone who's had some good 
opportunities in life, i've known personally that every advance can still be 
sullied by the hatred of those around you. The very nasty comments directed at 
Obama during the campaign--the way the xenophobia, Christian fundamentalism 
hatred, and unfair labeling of Michelle Obama as a militant abounded--is 
proof of that. The way Palin was able to lead a hatred-based attack on him, and 
even McCain didn't stop it unti it was too obvious to ignore, is proof of that. 
The fact that anyone with enough brain power to blink their eyes actually 
defended Limbaugh's Powell only voted for Obama because he's black and I 
hope he fails comments shows we haven't progressed that far. 

We believe America is past its racial problems at our peril. 

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I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President 
Obama's victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from 
behind us in terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and 
intensity. 






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What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are 
denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It 
takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. 

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: 

 I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 
 
 Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
 mine. 
 
 
 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf
  
 
 
 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, that might be for the best. Were I in Presdient Obama's shoes right now, 
facing this, I'd have the Secret Service chasing some folks down. And Free 
Report's web site would be a fond memory.





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Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) 


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I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 






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Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. 

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf
 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Martin Baxter
What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.





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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them...
 
They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them.
Don't let them ruin your day.

 _ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
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I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.







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Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine. 
 
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=n
f 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Reece Jennings
Thanks, Martin.  If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight,
then I'll
accept your compliment gracefully.  
 
I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much
wiser than I 
pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels
about me
was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are
anyway...energy...
 
Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut
off the balls
of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath
and curtail the thoughts...
 
:o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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decency begin?






What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.







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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... 

They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. 
Don't let them ruin your day. 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin? 







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 







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Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
mine. 

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n

f 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Augustus Augustus
but Reece, take it from me.  cutting off a ball or two fromthe crazies, it is 
such good therapy!  :-)
 
Fate.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:47 AM









Thanks, Martin.  If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight, 
then I'll
accept your compliment gracefully.  
 
I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much wiser 
than I 
pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels 
about me
was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are 
anyway...energy. ..
 
Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut off 
the balls
of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath and 
curtail the thoughts...
 
:o)
 



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
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decency begin?








What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.





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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... 

They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. 
Don't let them ruin your day. 

_ 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin? 







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 







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From : Augustus Augustus 
To : Bham_Meet_N_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com, The_Zetaheaven_ gr...@yahoogroup 
s.com 

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
mine. 

http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n 
f 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 





http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 















  

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2009-07-13 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Maybe that's why it jumped into my head when I was
writing!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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but Reece, take it from me.  cutting off a ball or two fromthe crazies, it
is such good therapy!  :-)
 
Fate.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:



From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:47 AM


Thanks, Martin.  If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight,
then I'll
accept your compliment gracefully.  
 
I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much
wiser than I 
pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels
about me
was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are
anyway...energy. ..
 
Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut
off the balls
of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath
and curtail the thoughts...
 
:o)
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?


What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.







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decency begin?
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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... 

They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. 
Don't let them ruin your day. 

_ 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin? 







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 







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Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : Bham_Meet_N_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com, The_Zetaheaven_ gr...@yahoogroup
s.com 

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
mine. 

http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php?
sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n 
f 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 





Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Keith Johnson
ha! 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:13:52 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
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Keith, that might be for the best. Were I in Presdient Obama's shoes 
right now, facing this, I'd have the Secret Service chasing some folks down. 
And Free Report's web site would be a fond memory. 






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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) 


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From: Martin Baxter 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:46:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency 
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I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 






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Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency 
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Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com 

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. 

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 

[scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Augustus Augustus
Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine.
 
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf


  

[RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.





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 Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com

 To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine.
 
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
  Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change we can 
believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this kind of racist 
insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of educating, starting at very 
young ages.

  I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
  Amy




Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend 
of mine.


http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf 




  


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Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Daryle Lockhart

Come on, Amy.

EVERY change we can believe in? OBUSHa?

There are a lot of unemployed people getting an additional  $25 a  
week who probably don't feel very betrayed.


There are a lot of military personnel who feel a lot better about  
having someone trying to get them OUT of a situation instead of  
finding ways to give more money to civilian contractors.


The man came into office and faced a MOUNTAIN of problems. A mountain  
that took 8 years to build. He's dealing with them politically,  
surrounded by people who want him to fail. Can the man have a year  
before we vote no confidence?




On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Amy Harlib wrote:






ahar...@earthlink.net
Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change  
we can believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this  
kind of racist insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of  
educating, starting at very young ages.


I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
Amy

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor  
friend of mine.


http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php? 
sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf





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Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread George Arterberry
So I guess folks thought racism would end on Jan 20? This is mild  compared to 
stuff I read on non-political message boards, t include ESPN and most 
newspapers.

--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com wrote:

From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question:  When does the hate stop and human decency 
begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 5:36 PM











 











  
  
Come on, Amy.
EVERY change we can believe in? OBUSHa?
There are a lot of unemployed people getting an additional  $25 a week who 
probably don't feel very betrayed. 
There are a lot of military personnel who feel a lot better about having 
someone trying to get them OUT of a situation instead of finding ways to give 
more money to civilian contractors. 
The man came into office and faced a MOUNTAIN of problems. A mountain that took 
8 years to build. He's dealing with them politically, surrounded by people who 
want him to fail. Can the man have a year before we vote no confidence?


On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Amy Harlib wrote:

  ahar...@earthlink. net   Much as I disagree with The President's   betrayals 
of every change we can believe in - becoming President 'Obusha'   essentially, 
this kind of racist insanity has got to stop.  We need a   whole lot of 
educating, starting at very young ages.     I voted for Cynthia McKinney,  Amy  
Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton 
professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook .com/ext/ 
share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf



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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Mr. Worf
What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are
denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It
takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote:

 I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

 Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.





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  To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com,
 the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com


 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
 mine.


 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf





 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds




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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President Obama's 
victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from behind us in 
terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and intensity.





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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are
denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It
takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

 I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

 Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.





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 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com,
 the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com


 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
 mine.


 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf





 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds




-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Those stages do not take into account racism complicated by Obama Derangement 
Syndrome.  Sigh….

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
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decency begin?

 



What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are 
denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes 
some people longer to move through the rest of those stages.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:

I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.





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Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
(standing ovation)





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 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@darylelockhart.com

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Come on, Amy.

EVERY change we can believe in? OBUSHa?

There are a lot of unemployed people getting an additional $25 a 
week who probably don't feel very betrayed.

There are a lot of military personnel who feel a lot better about 
having someone trying to get them OUT of a situation instead of 
finding ways to give more money to civilian contractors.

The man came into office and faced a MOUNTAIN of problems. A mountain 
that took 8 years to build. He's dealing with them politically, 
surrounded by people who want him to fail. Can the man have a year 
before we vote no confidence?



On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Amy Harlib wrote:





 ahar...@earthlink.net
 Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change 
 we can believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this 
 kind of racist insanity has got to stop. We need a whole lot of 
 educating, starting at very young ages.

 I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
 Amy

 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor 
 friend of mine.

 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php? 
 sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf




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Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
I do as well, Daryle. It's as though all of the neo-cons lunged for the GOP 
Self-Destruct Switch at the same time. We need the balance of bipartisanship to 
make anything approaching the American Dream a reality, and that won't happen 
for some time, as long as the most vocal members of the party are Rush and 
Savage.





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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


This is going to come across as crazy to many of you, but here goes:

I feel sorry for true conservatives.

I don't think they ever believed it was going to come to this. but 
they co-signed a mob mentality by allowing the Architect to run 
rampant for 9 years (first during the campaign and then 8 FULL 
years in Bush 2.0's reign) and now, yeah, you have that scene from 
This Is England where the kid's in the back of the car after 
leaving a white supremacist meeting and says do you really 
believe all that stuff and gets thrown out of the car.

I was sorta hoping to have good debate between TRUE conservatives and 
some TRUE liberals, and the moderates would be able to contribute 
some things as well, but this neo-con stuff has completely taken 
over. The Republican party has a lot of work to do. The sex 
scandals, gay and straight, are out of control. As an organization, 
they are becoming ineffective. They need leadership, but all they 
keep getting are employees, regurgitating company policy. When 
Jim was General Manager, we never had these problems!! Yes, but 
Jim was fired and sent to jail for embezzling funds. So let's get 
past our crush on Jim, and fix the company.

I really expected the true conservatives to take their party back. 
Shame on me.


On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Augustus Augustus wrote:



 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor 
 friend of mine.

 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php? 
 sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf

 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Augustus Augustus
Amy I go with Daryle and Martin on this one.  having been deployed 4 times to 
Iraq and Afghanistantrust me, there are a lot of service people who 
are down right giddy because we are pulling out from over there.  like Daryle 
said, this took years 2 build up.  u cannot expect the president 2 wave a wand 
and it be fixed over night.  please.

Gunnery Sergeant Fate
2d Recon Batt
USMC

--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency 
begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 7:30 PM
















  
 (standing ovation)





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 To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com



Come on, Amy.



EVERY change we can believe in? OBUSHa?



There are a lot of unemployed people getting an additional  $25 a  

week who probably don't feel very betrayed.



There are a lot of military personnel who feel a lot better about  

having someone trying to get them OUT of a situation instead of  

finding ways to give more money to civilian contractors.



The man came into office and faced a MOUNTAIN of problems. A mountain  

that took 8 years to build. He's dealing with them politically,  

surrounded by people who want him to fail. Can the man have a year  

before we vote no confidence?







On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Amy Harlib wrote:











 ahar...@earthlink. net

 Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change  

 we can believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this  

 kind of racist insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of  

 educating, starting at very young ages.



 I voted for Cynthia McKinney,

 Amy



 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor  

 friend of mine.



 http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php? 

 sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf









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RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Human decency is an oxymoron.  Who defines decency?  There are as many
definitions
as there are people to define it.  Let it go.
 
Just know who they are so you don't hang out with them and give them a
chance at you and
yours...
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Amy Harlib
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:25 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?






 
ahar...@earthlink. mailto:ahar...@earthlink.net net

Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change we can
believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this kind of racist
insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of educating, starting at
very young ages.
 
I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
Amy


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine.
 
http://www.facebook
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=
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RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Milton Davis
I've been black all my life. I'm used to this. When racists don't have anything 
left to stand on, they resort to this. It's a sign of their defeat. Revel in 
the victory.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question:  When does the hate stop and human decency 
begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:34 AM











 











  
  


Human 
decency is an oxymoron.  Who defines decency?  There are as many 
definitions
as there 
are people to define it.  Let it go.
 
Just 
know who they are so you don't hang out with them and give them a chance at you 
and
yours...
 



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Amy 
Harlib
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:25 PM
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When 
does the hate stop and human decency begin?





 
ahar...@earthlink. net

  Much as I disagree with The President's 
  betrayals of every change we can believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' 
  essentially, this kind of racist insanity has got to stop.  We need a 
  whole lot of educating, starting at very young ages..
   
  I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
  Amy
  

  


  
Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor 
friend of mine.
 
http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php? 
sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf

  
  
  

  
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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them...
 
They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them.
Don't let them ruin your day.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.







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To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine. 
  
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n
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RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Yup!  I've been Black at least half my life.  The first half I was raised
with white folks.  :o)
That's actually the Blackest half. 
 
And I agree, revel in the victory!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Milton Davis
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:44 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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decency begin?






I've been black all my life. I'm used to this.. When racists don't have
anything left to stand on, they resort to this. It's a sign of their defeat.
Revel in the victory.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:34 AM





Human decency is an oxymoron.  Who defines decency?  There are as many
definitions
as there are people to define it.  Let it go.
 
Just know who they are so you don't hang out with them and give them a
chance at you and
yours...
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Amy Harlib
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:25 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?





 
ahar...@earthlink. net

Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change we can
believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this kind of racist
insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of educating, starting at
very young ages.
 
I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
Amy


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine.
 
http://www.facebook .com/ext/
http://www.facebook..com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref
=nf share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf




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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Keith Johnson
Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 






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From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com 
To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com 

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. 

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Keith Johnson
I never believed the worst in racism was over. I never believed we were 
post-racial, or anything close to it. As someone who's had some good 
opportunities in life, i've known personally that every advance can still be 
sullied by the hatred of those around you. The very nasty comments directed at 
Obama during the campaign--the way the xenophobia, Christian fundamentalism 
hatred, and unfair labeling of Michelle Obama as a militant abounded--is 
proof of that. The way Palin was able to lead a hatred-based attack on him, and 
even McCain didn't stop it unti it was too obvious to ignore, is proof of that. 
The fact that anyone with enough brain power to blink their eyes actually 
defended Limbaugh's Powell only voted for Obama because he's black and I 
hope he fails comments shows we haven't progressed that far. 

We believe America is past its racial problems at our peril. 

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I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President 
Obama's victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from 
behind us in terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and 
intensity. 






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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are 
denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It 
takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. 

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: 

 I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 
 
 Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency 
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 Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
 
 From : Augustus Augustus 
 
 To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, 
 the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com 
 
 
 Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
 mine. 
 
 
 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




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Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 



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