Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Mr. Worf
I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard about
an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of
 all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket
 F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to
 acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one
 of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John
 and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction
 in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter
Has been a while, Mr Worf. No one else I know has even 80,000 on their cars,
and a couple of those cars are a few years older than mine. Heck, one's an
'86 Taurus.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard about
 an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary 
 yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
 wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of
 all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went
 to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds
 Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to
 acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one
 of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John
 and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction
 in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Mr. Worf
My buddy bought a used 95 camero convertible. (Its a midlife crisis thing)
He's already put about $1200 into just to keep it running.  Amazingly, it
has about 150,000 miles on it, but I suspect that it won't have much more
without a major repair.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Has been a while, Mr Worf. No one else I know has even 80,000 on their
 cars, and a couple of those cars are a few years older than mine. Heck,
 one's an '86 Taurus.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard
 about an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy 
 American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary 
 yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
 wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of
 all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went
 to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a
 57 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds
 Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million
 to acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one
 of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John
 and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto
 Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter
That was a bad buy on his part, IMO. Every guy I know who has a Camaro runs
it as though he's running the Indy 500 while running to the corner store for
bread. A used one comes equipped with extra wear.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 My buddy bought a used 95 camero convertible. (Its a midlife crisis thing)
 He's already put about $1200 into just to keep it running.  Amazingly, it
 has about 150,000 miles on it, but I suspect that it won't have much more
 without a major repair.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Has been a while, Mr Worf. No one else I know has even 80,000 on their
 cars, and a couple of those cars are a few years older than mine. Heck,
 one's an '86 Taurus.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard
 about an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them 
 that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside 
 with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy 
 American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary 
 yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
 wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out
 of all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went
 to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a
 57 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds
 Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million
 to acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was
 one of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88
 seen here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to
 John and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto
 Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Mr. Worf
That's what I was trying to tell him, but he couldn't hear me. Every month
its something new that's broken and he's had it less than 6 months!

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 That was a bad buy on his part, IMO. Every guy I know who has a Camaro runs
 it as though he's running the Indy 500 while running to the corner store for
 bread. A used one comes equipped with extra wear.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 My buddy bought a used 95 camero convertible. (Its a midlife crisis thing)
 He's already put about $1200 into just to keep it running.  Amazingly, it
 has about 150,000 miles on it, but I suspect that it won't have much more
 without a major repair.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Has been a while, Mr Worf. No one else I know has even 80,000 on their
 cars, and a couple of those cars are a few years older than mine. Heck,
 one's an '86 Taurus.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard
 about an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them 
 that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside 
 with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy 
 American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary 
 yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
 wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to
 do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out
 of all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies
 went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a
 57 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds
 Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million
 to acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was
 one of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88
 seen here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to
 John and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto
 Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating
 display worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter
Like you said, Mr Worf. Mid-life crisis.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 That's what I was trying to tell him, but he couldn't hear me. Every month
 its something new that's broken and he's had it less than 6 months!


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 That was a bad buy on his part, IMO. Every guy I know who has a Camaro
 runs it as though he's running the Indy 500 while running to the corner
 store for bread. A used one comes equipped with extra wear.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 My buddy bought a used 95 camero convertible. (Its a midlife crisis
 thing) He's already put about $1200 into just to keep it running.
  Amazingly, it has about 150,000 miles on it, but I suspect that it won't
 have much more without a major repair.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Has been a while, Mr Worf. No one else I know has even 80,000 on their
 cars, and a couple of those cars are a few years older than mine. Heck,
 one's an '86 Taurus.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I guess you lucked out on that. When was the last time that you heard
 about an American car that lasted more than 150,000 miles? (Hell, 125,000)

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:



 To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
 rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
 servicing).

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are
 a couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over 
 the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them 
 that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside 
 with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy 
 American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary 
 yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...
 wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to
 do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out
 of all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies
 went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with
 a 57 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds
 Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3
 million to acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into
 wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was
 one of only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88
 seen here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to
 John and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto
 Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the
 Gateway Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating
 display worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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[scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Kelwyn
This car is SWET!  I love vintage automobiles and have incorporated them 
into my World Ebon narrative.  For instance, I named a luxury sedan a 
Mirari-Silvan (Miracle Forest) and I used classic Bugatti automobiles as my 
template: http://theworldebon.blogspot.com/2010/04/selahday-rabiah-20-10010.html

This 1954 Olds F-88 will become my template for my iconic sports car, the F 
Douglass Coupe.

Good looking out!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket F88 - the
 only one in existence. (read the story below) John S. Hendricks, (Discovery
 Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to acquire.*
   1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
 After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
 crates �the F-88 was reassembled.
  In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of only two 
 � or
 an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen here is literally
 the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John and Maureen Hendricks
 at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in Scottsdale, Arizona for
 an unbelievable $3,240,000. This acquisition made automotive history and is
 the �cornerstone� of the Gateway Colorado Automobile Museum in its own
 special room in a rotating display worthy of the F-88!
[image:
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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[scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Kelwyn
Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of Greenwich 
Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American automobiles 
were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary yellow 1976 Chrysler 
Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
 anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of all of
 the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
 design for European companies.
 
 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57 Chevy,
  and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket F88
  - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S. Hendricks,
  (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to 
  acquire.
  *
1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
  After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
  crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
   In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of only 
  two
  � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen here is
  literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John and
  Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in
  Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This acquisition made
  automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway Colorado
  Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display worthy of
  the F-88!
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[scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Kelwyn
My friend has a CTS-V and lemme tell ya, it is cherry!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

 In the past few months, Mr Worf, I've become a huge fan of Top Gear, and the
 presenters all agree with you on that. It took them years before they
 finally found American cars they thought were decent enough to be driven in
 civilized society. (Incidentally, those cars were the new Corvette ZR-1,
 Dodge Challenger and Caddy CTS-V.)
 
 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
  design for European companies.
 
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
  Chevy, and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...
   wrote:
 
 
 
  Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket F88
  - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S. Hendricks,
  (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to 
  acquire.
  *
1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
  After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
  crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
   In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of 
  only two
  � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen here is
  literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John and
  Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in
  Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This acquisition 
  made
  automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway Colorado
  Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display worthy 
  of
  the F-88!
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Mr. Worf
After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them that
still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside with
the windows rolled up.

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of all
 of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket
 F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to
 acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of
 only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This acquisition
 made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
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 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter
rave, for me, a sky-blue '76 AMC Pacer wagon. Mind you, I couldn't drive it
legally, but...

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of all
 of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:

 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:

  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:

  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to
 acquire.
   *
   1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
   In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of
 only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This acquisition
 made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
   [image:
  
 http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1paBz-jwxpqR6D15Fv9u7u7OnF7A2D4xecXm7MQOhjE_fCbYdQ6eW5lg9S-l8JtQBaADOHAfHv6qhlW6L3FQ1DNw/54
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 1954 Oldsmobile F-88

2010-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter
To that, Mr Worf, I have to say that my '95 Plymouth Acclaim is still
rolling along. 122,000 miles, and the only problem is with the A/C (needs
servicing).

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 After 74 the American industry pretty much went down hill. There are a
 couple of exceptions but we have gotten used to under achieving. Over the
 years I have owned two American cars and attempted to take car of them that
 still ended badly. Including a Plymouth Neon that rained on the inside with
 the windows rolled up.

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Every time I watch a vintage '70s movie (I was watching The Pope of
 Greenwich Village the other day) I am always struck by how crappy American
 automobiles were in that decade (although I DID own a two-door canary yellow
 1976 Chrysler Cordoba that I thought was quite fly).

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think the American auto makers are too set in their ways now to do
  anything like that. I think Saturn was the only real innovator out of
 all of
  the companies. Most of the unique designers for their companies went to
  design for European companies.
 
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
 
  
  
   Mixing the gene pool can be a good thing.
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@...wrote:
  
  
  
   It kind of looks like Oldsmobile did a genetic experiment with a 57
 Chevy,
   and a T-bird, then had the progeny crossbreed with a corvette.
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   Excuse me... I have to re-hinge my jaw. [?]
  
  
   On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   *The world's rarest automobile. A 1954 concept Olds Rocket
 F88
   - the only one in existence. (read the story below) John S.
 Hendricks,
   (Discovery Communications founder) paid in excess of 3 million to
 acquire.
   *
 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 Convertible Concept Car
   After spending decades as a collection of parts stuffed into wooden
   crates � the F-88 was reassembled.
In 1954 � the F-88 was a Motorama �Dream Car� and was one of
 only two
   � or an unconfirmed possible three ever created. The F-88 seen
 here is
   literally the only car left of its kind � and was sold to John
 and
   Maureen Hendricks at the prestigious Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction
 in
   Scottsdale, Arizona for an unbelievable $3,240,000. This
 acquisition made
   automotive history and is the �cornerstone� of the Gateway
 Colorado
   Automobile Museum in its own special room in a rotating display
 worthy of
   the F-88!
  [image:
  
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