Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-06 Thread Martin
This is SyFyPortal talking, so I take this with roughly the same caution I take 
words from The Sun. The Tennant's leaving bit is close to a year old now, and 
he doesn't even deny the possibility anymore. DW can survive without him.  As 
for Torchwood without Barrowman, I doubt it would fly. The show's invested too 
much of its identity into Captain Jack.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 I'm sure i will adapt, but it seems to me that they 
built the show 
 around  Harkness.  Barrowman is a hard act to follow.  As much as I like 
 Martha Jones, I believe the show that is left will be a shell of what it 
 was .  It is too bad.  I think the new season is much better than the 
 first season.
 
 ravenadal wrote:
  As someone who thinks Naoko Mori is hot and Captain Harkness is a 
  hoot, suspenders and all, I am not at all excited by this news.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
  Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: Sci Fi Pulse
  Mar-04-2008
 
  This story contains possible MAJOR SPOILERS for upcoming seasons of 
  Doctor Who and Torchwood. This story also contains rumors that 
  
  have 

  not been independently corroborated by SyFy Portal, so treat them 
  
  as you 

  would any rumor.
 
  Like Torchwood the way it is now? Like its original source show, 
  Doctor Who? Well get ready for some changes.
 
  Despite the fact that Doctor Who and Torchwood remain two of 
  
  the 

  most-watched scripted programs on British television, it appears 
  
  that 

  BBC is getting ready to make some wholesale changes to both shows, 
  including the replacement of both stars.
 
  According to Dr. Phibes, a source for British genre site Sci-Fi 
  
  Pulse, 

  both David Tennant and John Barrowman are set to leave their 
  
  respective 

  programs, along with a number of other cast members.
 
  Tennant, who is about to premiere in the show's fourth season on 
  
  BBC 

  later this spring, will apparently work through the 2009 specials 
  leading up to the annual Christmas episode, where he will 
  
  regenerate and 

  be replaced by another actor.
 
  According to Sci-Fi Pulse, filming for the Doctor Who specials in 
  
  2009 

  is already under way, with a wrap planned for as early as the end 
  
  of 

  this month. While Carlyle is not signed to play the role as the 
  
  11th 

  Doctor, Dr. Phibes says that the BBC is in negotiations to sign the 
  
  actor.

  It won't just be Doctor Who getting a makeover, however. Remember 
  
  that 

  experiment BBC Two was doing where it was watering down episodes of 
  Torchwood to make it more family friendly? If Dr. Phibes is 
  
  correct, 

  then it seems that they were warming up audiences to a new version 
  
  of 

  the show which will launch in the third season. So far, only five 
  episodes have been commissioned out of the standard 13, and gone 
  
  are 

  actors Burn Gorman (Owen Harper), Naoko Mori (Toshiko Sato) and 
  
  Capt. 

  Jack Harkness' John Barrowman. In, however, is former Doctor Who 
  companion Freema Agyeman, who will join the show full-time in 
  
  Season 3. 

  Eve Myles, who plays Gwen Cooper, is expected to return as well, 
  
  and 

  Barrowman is reported to be making guest appearances in the third 
  
  season.

  The show itself will lose some of its adult-themed content, and 
  
  will be 

  geared more toward Doctor Who style audiences. The goal is not to 
  
  have 

  two different series running at the same time, but instead to work 
  
  as 

  sort of a filler series for off periods of Doctor Who, which only 
  films a handful of episodes each year.
 
With the changes, Torchwood will move to a Saturday timeslot 
  
  where 

  Doctor Who currently airs.
 
  If true, these would be some very significant changes to the 
  
  Whoniverse 

  by BBC, and a bit head-scratching as ratings for both shows in 
  
  their 

  current formats have been phenomenal.
 
  Sci-Fi Pulse stands behind its source on this, saying he has been 
  accurate in his reports in the past, but even that site warns this 
  
  is 

  nothing more than rumor, and should be treated as such.
 
  Torchwood is currently airing on BBC Two and BBC America, while 
  Doctor Who is preparing to premiere its fourth season in the 
  
  spring.

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[scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-06 Thread ravenadal
I gave this more consideration and factored in the fact that the BBC 
is a public entity, financed by a television licensing fee.  As such, 
it is probably subject to the same political pressures as our own 
PBS.  Just like in the good ol' USA, I am sure British politicos gain 
traction by bashing the BBC for not being family oriented.  The 
programming of the private television networks, including the one 
owned by arch conservative Rupert Murdock, air much racier 
programming than the BBC does.  I sure omni-sexual Jack Harkness, who 
had bed both one female member of his team and one male member and 
who has had more alien booty than Captain James Tiberius Kirk, is a 
bug up some conservative MP's butt.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sure i will adapt, but it seems to me that they built the show 
 around  Harkness.  Barrowman is a hard act to follow.  As much as I 
like 
 Martha Jones, I believe the show that is left will be a shell of 
what it 
 was .  It is too bad.  I think the new season is much better than 
the 
 first season.
 
 ravenadal wrote:
  As someone who thinks Naoko Mori is hot and Captain Harkness is a 
  hoot, suspenders and all, I am not at all excited by this news.
 
  ~(no)rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
  Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:

  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: Sci Fi Pulse
  Mar-04-2008
 
  This story contains possible MAJOR SPOILERS for upcoming seasons 
of 
  Doctor Who and Torchwood. This story also contains rumors 
that 
  
  have 

  not been independently corroborated by SyFy Portal, so treat 
them 
  
  as you 

  would any rumor.
 
  Like Torchwood the way it is now? Like its original source 
show, 
  Doctor Who? Well get ready for some changes.
 
  Despite the fact that Doctor Who and Torchwood remain two of 
  
  the 

  most-watched scripted programs on British television, it appears 
  
  that 

  BBC is getting ready to make some wholesale changes to both 
shows, 
  including the replacement of both stars.
 
  According to Dr. Phibes, a source for British genre site Sci-
Fi 
  
  Pulse, 

  both David Tennant and John Barrowman are set to leave their 
  
  respective 

  programs, along with a number of other cast members.
 
  Tennant, who is about to premiere in the show's fourth season on 
  
  BBC 

  later this spring, will apparently work through the 2009 
specials 
  leading up to the annual Christmas episode, where he will 
  
  regenerate and 

  be replaced by another actor.
 
  According to Sci-Fi Pulse, filming for the Doctor Who specials 
in 
  
  2009 

  is already under way, with a wrap planned for as early as the 
end 
  
  of 

  this month. While Carlyle is not signed to play the role as the 
  
  11th 

  Doctor, Dr. Phibes says that the BBC is in negotiations to sign 
the 
  
  actor.

  It won't just be Doctor Who getting a makeover, however. 
Remember 
  
  that 

  experiment BBC Two was doing where it was watering down episodes 
of 
  Torchwood to make it more family friendly? If Dr. Phibes is 
  
  correct, 

  then it seems that they were warming up audiences to a new 
version 
  
  of 

  the show which will launch in the third season. So far, only 
five 
  episodes have been commissioned out of the standard 13, and gone 
  
  are 

  actors Burn Gorman (Owen Harper), Naoko Mori (Toshiko Sato) and 
  
  Capt. 

  Jack Harkness' John Barrowman. In, however, is former Doctor 
Who 
  companion Freema Agyeman, who will join the show full-time in 
  
  Season 3. 

  Eve Myles, who plays Gwen Cooper, is expected to return as well, 
  
  and 

  Barrowman is reported to be making guest appearances in the 
third 
  
  season.

  The show itself will lose some of its adult-themed content, and 
  
  will be 

  geared more toward Doctor Who style audiences. The goal is not 
to 
  
  have 

  two different series running at the same time, but instead to 
work 
  
  as 

  sort of a filler series for off periods of Doctor Who, which 
only 
  films a handful of episodes each year.
 
With the changes, Torchwood will move to a Saturday timeslot 
  
  where 

  Doctor Who currently airs.
 
  If true, these would be some very significant changes to the 
  
  Whoniverse 

  by BBC, and a bit head-scratching as ratings for both shows in 
  
  their 

  current formats have been phenomenal.
 
  Sci-Fi Pulse stands behind its source on this, saying he has 
been 
  accurate in his reports in the past, but even that site warns 
this 
  
  is 

  nothing more than rumor, and should be treated as such.
 
  Torchwood is currently airing on BBC Two and BBC America, 
while 
  Doctor Who is preparing to 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-06 Thread Martin
I can't see pulling *anyone* from the cast.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   No Owen
  
 I like Owen. I don't care much for Jack though. I am not a big fan of Martha 
 Jones either. The personalities are so different so that the original cast 
 gels well together. 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-05 Thread ravenadal
As someone who thinks Naoko Mori is hot and Captain Harkness is a 
hoot, suspenders and all, I am not at all excited by this news.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: Sci Fi Pulse
 Mar-04-2008
 
 This story contains possible MAJOR SPOILERS for upcoming seasons of 
 Doctor Who and Torchwood. This story also contains rumors that 
have 
 not been independently corroborated by SyFy Portal, so treat them 
as you 
 would any rumor.
 
 Like Torchwood the way it is now? Like its original source show, 
 Doctor Who? Well get ready for some changes.
 
 Despite the fact that Doctor Who and Torchwood remain two of 
the 
 most-watched scripted programs on British television, it appears 
that 
 BBC is getting ready to make some wholesale changes to both shows, 
 including the replacement of both stars.
 
 According to Dr. Phibes, a source for British genre site Sci-Fi 
Pulse, 
 both David Tennant and John Barrowman are set to leave their 
respective 
 programs, along with a number of other cast members.
 
 Tennant, who is about to premiere in the show's fourth season on 
BBC 
 later this spring, will apparently work through the 2009 specials 
 leading up to the annual Christmas episode, where he will 
regenerate and 
 be replaced by another actor.
 
 According to Sci-Fi Pulse, filming for the Doctor Who specials in 
2009 
 is already under way, with a wrap planned for as early as the end 
of 
 this month. While Carlyle is not signed to play the role as the 
11th 
 Doctor, Dr. Phibes says that the BBC is in negotiations to sign the 
actor.
 
 It won't just be Doctor Who getting a makeover, however. Remember 
that 
 experiment BBC Two was doing where it was watering down episodes of 
 Torchwood to make it more family friendly? If Dr. Phibes is 
correct, 
 then it seems that they were warming up audiences to a new version 
of 
 the show which will launch in the third season. So far, only five 
 episodes have been commissioned out of the standard 13, and gone 
are 
 actors Burn Gorman (Owen Harper), Naoko Mori (Toshiko Sato) and 
Capt. 
 Jack Harkness' John Barrowman. In, however, is former Doctor Who 
 companion Freema Agyeman, who will join the show full-time in 
Season 3. 
 Eve Myles, who plays Gwen Cooper, is expected to return as well, 
and 
 Barrowman is reported to be making guest appearances in the third 
season.
 
 The show itself will lose some of its adult-themed content, and 
will be 
 geared more toward Doctor Who style audiences. The goal is not to 
have 
 two different series running at the same time, but instead to work 
as 
 sort of a filler series for off periods of Doctor Who, which only 
 films a handful of episodes each year.
 
   With the changes, Torchwood will move to a Saturday timeslot 
where 
 Doctor Who currently airs.
 
 If true, these would be some very significant changes to the 
Whoniverse 
 by BBC, and a bit head-scratching as ratings for both shows in 
their 
 current formats have been phenomenal.
 
 Sci-Fi Pulse stands behind its source on this, saying he has been 
 accurate in his reports in the past, but even that site warns this 
is 
 nothing more than rumor, and should be treated as such.
 
 Torchwood is currently airing on BBC Two and BBC America, while 
 Doctor Who is preparing to premiere its fourth season in the 
spring.
 
 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424775.html





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-05 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I'm sure i will adapt, but it seems to me that they built the show 
around  Harkness.  Barrowman is a hard act to follow.  As much as I like 
Martha Jones, I believe the show that is left will be a shell of what it 
was .  It is too bad.  I think the new season is much better than the 
first season.

ravenadal wrote:
 As someone who thinks Naoko Mori is hot and Captain Harkness is a 
 hoot, suspenders and all, I am not at all excited by this news.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
 Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: Sci Fi Pulse
 Mar-04-2008

 This story contains possible MAJOR SPOILERS for upcoming seasons of 
 Doctor Who and Torchwood. This story also contains rumors that 
 
 have 
   
 not been independently corroborated by SyFy Portal, so treat them 
 
 as you 
   
 would any rumor.

 Like Torchwood the way it is now? Like its original source show, 
 Doctor Who? Well get ready for some changes.

 Despite the fact that Doctor Who and Torchwood remain two of 
 
 the 
   
 most-watched scripted programs on British television, it appears 
 
 that 
   
 BBC is getting ready to make some wholesale changes to both shows, 
 including the replacement of both stars.

 According to Dr. Phibes, a source for British genre site Sci-Fi 
 
 Pulse, 
   
 both David Tennant and John Barrowman are set to leave their 
 
 respective 
   
 programs, along with a number of other cast members.

 Tennant, who is about to premiere in the show's fourth season on 
 
 BBC 
   
 later this spring, will apparently work through the 2009 specials 
 leading up to the annual Christmas episode, where he will 
 
 regenerate and 
   
 be replaced by another actor.

 According to Sci-Fi Pulse, filming for the Doctor Who specials in 
 
 2009 
   
 is already under way, with a wrap planned for as early as the end 
 
 of 
   
 this month. While Carlyle is not signed to play the role as the 
 
 11th 
   
 Doctor, Dr. Phibes says that the BBC is in negotiations to sign the 
 
 actor.
   
 It won't just be Doctor Who getting a makeover, however. Remember 
 
 that 
   
 experiment BBC Two was doing where it was watering down episodes of 
 Torchwood to make it more family friendly? If Dr. Phibes is 
 
 correct, 
   
 then it seems that they were warming up audiences to a new version 
 
 of 
   
 the show which will launch in the third season. So far, only five 
 episodes have been commissioned out of the standard 13, and gone 
 
 are 
   
 actors Burn Gorman (Owen Harper), Naoko Mori (Toshiko Sato) and 
 
 Capt. 
   
 Jack Harkness' John Barrowman. In, however, is former Doctor Who 
 companion Freema Agyeman, who will join the show full-time in 
 
 Season 3. 
   
 Eve Myles, who plays Gwen Cooper, is expected to return as well, 
 
 and 
   
 Barrowman is reported to be making guest appearances in the third 
 
 season.
   
 The show itself will lose some of its adult-themed content, and 
 
 will be 
   
 geared more toward Doctor Who style audiences. The goal is not to 
 
 have 
   
 two different series running at the same time, but instead to work 
 
 as 
   
 sort of a filler series for off periods of Doctor Who, which only 
 films a handful of episodes each year.

   With the changes, Torchwood will move to a Saturday timeslot 
 
 where 
   
 Doctor Who currently airs.

 If true, these would be some very significant changes to the 
 
 Whoniverse 
   
 by BBC, and a bit head-scratching as ratings for both shows in 
 
 their 
   
 current formats have been phenomenal.

 Sci-Fi Pulse stands behind its source on this, saying he has been 
 accurate in his reports in the past, but even that site warns this 
 
 is 
   
 nothing more than rumor, and should be treated as such.

 Torchwood is currently airing on BBC Two and BBC America, while 
 Doctor Who is preparing to premiere its fourth season in the 
 
 spring.
   
 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424775.html

 




  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-05 Thread Gymfig
No Owen
 
I like Owen. I don't care much for Jack though. I am not a big fan of Martha 
Jones either. The personalities are so different so that the original cast 
gels well together. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Huge Changes Coming To 'Doctor Who,' 'Torchwood'?

2008-03-05 Thread Gymfig
The Doctor Who mailing list has not mentioned this. Also an interview post 
scifi.com says that Own is staying I guess we will have to wait and see. 



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