[scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned
I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200 million and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll business model. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Sammie A jazzynupe...@... wrote: I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series and make the other books into movies. Also, I hope that they get a new director and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender series. Fate. --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM  Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. The young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby. - Original Message - From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned  The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed The Last Airbender. Fate. On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote: Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that they honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the quality of all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that every Star Wars title is fantastic. But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care... Gerald Haynes http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin Hobbes who? http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun _ _ __ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all open to constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting with studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where the conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It was reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally, actually hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a director. He was also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the time so that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input in an attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be suffering from star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful too quickly. Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat! On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which ain't necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which I love), and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may have relied too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely pulled one in. With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after that things started going more South. In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling. Both love heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But whereas Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature work, M. Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be better for a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour anthology series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours with material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a scifi/horror showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics will allow him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and less reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started out with. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 6:52:54 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Keith, I wish I
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Last Airbender Widely Panned
There's a horrible thought to contemplate early in the AM, B. Unfortunately, the horrible thoughts usually contain the most truth. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:24 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I hope they fire the studio folks that decided to give M. Night $200 million and a beloved franchise to ruin. Maybe they discovered the Uwe Boll business model. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Sammie A jazzynupe...@... wrote: I agree with u Keith, I can only hope that they continue with the series and make the other books into movies. Also, I hope that they get a new director and a couple of new writers before they do Book 2 in the Airbender series. Fate. --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:15 AM  Not so bad. That movie had the elements to at least be entertaining. The young actor who stars as Jackson is a good actor. I enjoyed him in the shortlived TV series Jack and Bobby. - Original Message - From: Sammie A jazzynupe007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned  The bad thing is that I am sitting here watching Percy Jackson and the Olympians - The Lighting Thief, and I am enjoying it better than I enjoyed The Last Airbender. Fate. On Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 6:33 PM EDT Gerald Haynes wrote: Which begs to question: Are creative types so close to their work that they honestly can't judge it merits? I think M.Knight actually thinks the quality of all his movies are as good as Sixth Sense. I'm sure Lucas feels that every Star Wars title is fantastic. But, then there are those like Bay who just don't care... Gerald Haynes http://thesmallfrie s.com - Calvin Hobbes who? http://dontarrestus .com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun _ _ __ From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 5:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned I agree. I was going to mention that insiders have said he's not at all open to constructive criticism or suggestions. I remember that he had a meeting with studio execs sometime during the process of Lady in the Water, where the conversation turned to their concern that the film wouldn't be good. It was reported that M. Knight was in turns pissed, insulted, and finally, actually hurt, literally blinking back tears at the criticism. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Last Airbender Widely Panned Rod Serling was an excellent short story writer before he was a director. He was also around a lot of the best people that Hollywood had to offer at the time so that he could perfect his craft. M.Knight seems to be ignoring all input in an attempt to ruin his own career. Its possible that he just may be suffering from star syndrome which happens to a lot of people that become successful too quickly. Can't wait to see Mortal Kombat! On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: I don't know Martin. I wonder if he's simply limited in skills--which ain't necessarily a bad thing. With The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable , (which I love), and Signs, he crafted tight, atmospheric, even scary films. He may have relied too much on the surprise ending effect, but the movies definitely pulled one in. With The Village, the same old trick wore thin just a bit, and after that things started going more South. In some ways he reminds me of a younger or less skillful Rod Serling. Both love heavy drama, themes, lots of dialogue, and really mood heavy work. But whereas Serling's writing skills were expansive, and he could craft mature work, M. Knight might not yet be on that level. I'm starting to think he'd be better for a while writing and producing more small work, such as a half-hour anthology series like Twilight Zone, where he's not straining to fill two hours with material; or perhaps made-for-TV films that are shorter, such as a scifi/horror showcase on Showtime or something. Maybe getting back to the basics will allow him to hone or develop the ability to write material that's fuller and less reliant on the effective-but- overused tricks he started
