Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
why do you say B5 hasn't aged well? -- Original message -- From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lost has really picked up the pace in this season and last. Heroes made a huge mistake in season 2, because they went right back and were way too similar to season 1. B5... has not aged well. JJ Mohareb On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM, g123curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eactly! What made Babylon 5 so great, was its tight story arc created > and implemented within 5 years by JMS. I get the feeling that both > Lost and Heroes are going on... and on... and on... and on... To me, > that does not feel like sincere storytelling. > -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
Lost has really picked up the pace in this season and last. Heroes made a huge mistake in season 2, because they went right back and were way too similar to season 1. B5... has not aged well. JJ Mohareb On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM, g123curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eactly! What made Babylon 5 so great, was its tight story arc created > and implemented within 5 years by JMS. I get the feeling that both > Lost and Heroes are going on... and on... and on... and on... To me, > that does not feel like sincere storytelling. > -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
[scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
Eactly! What made Babylon 5 so great, was its tight story arc created and implemented within 5 years by JMS. I get the feeling that both Lost and Heroes are going on... and on... and on... and on... To me, that does not feel like sincere storytelling. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i feel that for "Lost" I lost interest and quite watching last year because I couldn't take it when they said the slowly-unfolding- mystery would go until 2010! That's just stretching out a myster that frankly should have been told in three years. But I don't see that with "Heroes", it was pretty tight in the first season > > -- Original message -- > From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why do I like New Amsterdam better than both Lost and Heroes? > Frankly, both Lost and Heroes remind me of the daily soaps: General > Hospital, As The World Turns, etc. Nothing ever really gets resolved. > It's like one long fake-out to me. And to keep viewers interested, > the plots get ever more fantastical... unbelieveable. With Google > Maps and Streetview, no downed airplane would ever be "lost" for so > long. So, it isn't so much that New Amsterdam is so great. Rather, > the others are so boring. > > So much on TV these days is so boring... like all of the reality TV > shows are so boring and repetitive... I watch less and less TV and > blog more. > > George > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > Wow, while I've lost interest in "Lost" (can't put more time into > this mystery show that has frequent repeats, half-seasons, and > dragging waaay too many seasons), I like "Heroes" a great deal. I > haven't seen anything in "New Amsterdam" to make it better > than "Heroes" when the latter's at its best. They're very different > shows, too. Why do you like it so much better? > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
i feel that for "Lost" I lost interest and quite watching last year because I couldn't take it when they said the slowly-unfolding-mystery would go until 2010! That's just stretching out a myster that frankly should have been told in three years. But I don't see that with "Heroes", it was pretty tight in the first season -- Original message -- From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why do I like New Amsterdam better than both Lost and Heroes? Frankly, both Lost and Heroes remind me of the daily soaps: General Hospital, As The World Turns, etc. Nothing ever really gets resolved. It's like one long fake-out to me. And to keep viewers interested, the plots get ever more fantastical... unbelieveable. With Google Maps and Streetview, no downed airplane would ever be "lost" for so long. So, it isn't so much that New Amsterdam is so great. Rather, the others are so boring. So much on TV these days is so boring... like all of the reality TV shows are so boring and repetitive... I watch less and less TV and blog more. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wow, while I've lost interest in "Lost" (can't put more time into this mystery show that has frequent repeats, half-seasons, and dragging waaay too many seasons), I like "Heroes" a great deal. I haven't seen anything in "New Amsterdam" to make it better than "Heroes" when the latter's at its best. They're very different shows, too. Why do you like it so much better? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
Why do I like New Amsterdam better than both Lost and Heroes? Frankly, both Lost and Heroes remind me of the daily soaps: General Hospital, As The World Turns, etc. Nothing ever really gets resolved. It's like one long fake-out to me. And to keep viewers interested, the plots get ever more fantastical... unbelieveable. With Google Maps and Streetview, no downed airplane would ever be "lost" for so long. So, it isn't so much that New Amsterdam is so great. Rather, the others are so boring. So much on TV these days is so boring... like all of the reality TV shows are so boring and repetitive... I watch less and less TV and blog more. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wow, while I've lost interest in "Lost" (can't put more time into this mystery show that has frequent repeats, half-seasons, and dragging waaay too many seasons), I like "Heroes" a great deal. I haven't seen anything in "New Amsterdam" to make it better than "Heroes" when the latter's at its best. They're very different shows, too. Why do you like it so much better? >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
Wow, while I've lost interest in "Lost" (can't put more time into this mystery
show that has frequent repeats, half-seasons, and dragging waaay too many
seasons), I like "Heroes" a great deal. I haven't seen anything in "New
Amsterdam" to make it better than "Heroes" when the latter's at its best.
They're very different shows, too. Why do you like it so much better?
-- Original message --
From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I like the series a lot. My wife and I watch it regularly on TV, not
via the web. New Amsterdam is far more interesting than both Lost and
Heroes.
George
http://ivebeenmugged.typepad.com
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone catch the series premiere tonight? I wasn't really that
impressed. The lead actor --who looks like some hyrid of Aaron
Eckhart and Dennis Leary--didn't make that much of an impression on
me. I guess he's got that brooding, soul-weary thing all immortals
have, but it wasn't pulled off that well. I didn't get the angst or
sometimes melancholy that say, Duncan McLeod or Angel conveyed in
their characters. Also, unlike those two immortals, I didn't feel
that the immortality angle was mixed in very well with the plot of
the show. It really came off as two disparate stories meshed
together: a spare tale of a dude who's lived for centuries and sees
life in ways we don't, and a fairly standard procedural cop show.
Neither half was scintillating, and the two together weren't that
special either. "Highlander" in its first season was mythic and
magical. "Angel" was exciting and thrilling. "New Amsterdam" was just
kinda there. Anyone remember that short-lived show "Blind justice",
about
> the blind cop? For some reason it reminded me of that. The cop is
supposed to be brilliant and quirky, kinda nuts at time, gruff,
unlikeable. He's timed with a young lady cop who refuses to let him
cow her. Sound familiar? Sounds like a ripoff of "Life", with
immortality replacing incarceration as the cause for the star's
strangeness. But it wasn't as catchy as that show either.
>
> And I have to say, i outright laughed and groaned at the genesis of
his immortality: a reward from Natives for him risking his life to
stop a fellow soldier from killing Native women. One, the Natives
were so cliched and stereotyped they made me groan. The magic
ceremony (complete with mystic smoke),that typical movie Native music
with pipes--brother. And I always get irritated at plots where native
peoples have this incredibly powerful magic, but instead of using it
on one of their own, grant it to some repentent European dude. The
lady who gave him his immortality gives some dopey speech about him
never dying until he meets his "one true love", and breathes some
magic smoke on him. She was about as cliched as the lady back in the
day who did the adver for Mazola Oil ("you call it 'corn', we call
it 'maize'"). And given what was going on, she might as well have
said, "Even though you came as part of a raiding party and meant to
kill our men, you are a man of honor for not killing
> our women. so we'll put our best mojo on you, cool European guy,
instead of wasting it on one of our noble warriors". That really made
me groan.
>
> I've been wrong before about shows, and one ep doesn't always tell
the story. So I'll give it three or four eps and see what happens.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: "New Amsterdam" Thoughts
I like the series a lot. My wife and I watch it regularly on TV, not
via the web. New Amsterdam is far more interesting than both Lost and
Heroes.
George
http://ivebeenmugged.typepad.com
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone catch the series premiere tonight? I wasn't really that
impressed. The lead actor --who looks like some hyrid of Aaron
Eckhart and Dennis Leary--didn't make that much of an impression on
me. I guess he's got that brooding, soul-weary thing all immortals
have, but it wasn't pulled off that well. I didn't get the angst or
sometimes melancholy that say, Duncan McLeod or Angel conveyed in
their characters. Also, unlike those two immortals, I didn't feel
that the immortality angle was mixed in very well with the plot of
the show. It really came off as two disparate stories meshed
together: a spare tale of a dude who's lived for centuries and sees
life in ways we don't, and a fairly standard procedural cop show.
Neither half was scintillating, and the two together weren't that
special either. "Highlander" in its first season was mythic and
magical. "Angel" was exciting and thrilling. "New Amsterdam" was just
kinda there. Anyone remember that short-lived show "Blind justice",
about
> the blind cop? For some reason it reminded me of that. The cop is
supposed to be brilliant and quirky, kinda nuts at time, gruff,
unlikeable. He's timed with a young lady cop who refuses to let him
cow her. Sound familiar? Sounds like a ripoff of "Life", with
immortality replacing incarceration as the cause for the star's
strangeness. But it wasn't as catchy as that show either.
>
> And I have to say, i outright laughed and groaned at the genesis of
his immortality: a reward from Natives for him risking his life to
stop a fellow soldier from killing Native women. One, the Natives
were so cliched and stereotyped they made me groan. The magic
ceremony (complete with mystic smoke),that typical movie Native music
with pipes--brother. And I always get irritated at plots where native
peoples have this incredibly powerful magic, but instead of using it
on one of their own, grant it to some repentent European dude. The
lady who gave him his immortality gives some dopey speech about him
never dying until he meets his "one true love", and breathes some
magic smoke on him. She was about as cliched as the lady back in the
day who did the adver for Mazola Oil ("you call it 'corn', we call
it 'maize'"). And given what was going on, she might as well have
said, "Even though you came as part of a raiding party and meant to
kill our men, you are a man of honor for not killing
> our women. so we'll put our best mojo on you, cool European guy,
instead of wasting it on one of our noble warriors". That really made
me groan.
>
> I've been wrong before about shows, and one ep doesn't always tell
the story. So I'll give it three or four eps and see what happens.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
