Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

2006-03-18 Thread Martin Pratt
As soon as I can scare up a free moment, I plan on it.

sancochojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Its not even worth getting angry over 
someones personal page.
Most people don't even know much of white american accomplisments 
let alone black american accomplishments.  We as a society say thank 
you for what you gave society then we move on.  

There are a couple of books published that list every single Black 
and important patent submitted by Black Americans.  If someone 
challenges you, use that as your of challenging their ignorance.  

I noticed he challenged George Washington Carvers accomplishement, 
yet people like Alexander Graham Bell and Henry Ford all wanted to 
give him a 6 figure salary for his services and he turned it down to 
stay at tuskeegee Univ for $1200 a year.

He has an email address, challenge him with facts and don't get 
mad.  If those accomplishments were true, then so be it, but if you 
can prove different, it doesn't hurt to challenge him.  I don't want 
us to be proud over a lie if that is the case.

Some of his arguments are very vague even with his references. I 
think he could be challenged. 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's funny they don't mind to talk about inventions that white 
 people this decade have done that were actually invented hundred 
or 
 so years before.  Can anyone say a French man inventing an 
 automobile in the 1700's.  Also everyone talks of Ford, but I also 
 hear of cars before he came up with the factories.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
 KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
 
  Don't know, but why would they go to so much trouble to debunky 
 good
  history about Blacks? I couldn't find a home page for the site, 
 but i
  wonder. Do they have a section debunking European history, 
Chinese,
  Japanese, etc?
  
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  http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
  
  i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
 debunk a 
  lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
 know 
  anything about this? i've never heard these things before. (the 
  debunking i mean)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

2006-03-17 Thread Amanda
http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa070899.htm which debunks 
a black man Sampson as being the inventor of the cell phone

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't know, but why would they go to so much trouble to debunky 
good
 history about Blacks? I couldn't find a home page for the site, 
but i
 wonder. Do they have a section debunking European history, Chinese,
 Japanese, etc?
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 14:49
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] OT...did blacks do these things or not?
 
 
 http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
 
 i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
 lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
 anything about this? i've never heard these things before. (the 
 debunking i mean)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

2006-03-17 Thread Amanda
It's funny they don't mind to talk about inventions that white 
people this decade have done that were actually invented hundred or 
so years before.  Can anyone say a French man inventing an 
automobile in the 1700's.  Also everyone talks of Ford, but I also 
hear of cars before he came up with the factories.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't know, but why would they go to so much trouble to debunky 
good
 history about Blacks? I couldn't find a home page for the site, 
but i
 wonder. Do they have a section debunking European history, Chinese,
 Japanese, etc?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of JediMaster*Skywalker
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 14:49
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] OT...did blacks do these things or not?
 
 
 http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
 
 i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
 lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
 anything about this? i've never heard these things before. (the 
 debunking i mean)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

2006-03-14 Thread Astromancer
I knew most of what was said in that article already...Most of the stuff they 
mentioned was a very small part of those inventors' contribution, i.e., Garrett 
Morgan did not invent the first gas mask, he invented one that was inexpensive 
and practical over the big and bulky apparatuses tat were being used. It didn't 
hurt that he happened along at a point in history where it made a difference. 
No one knowledgeable ever said George Washington Carver Invented peanut butter. 
He actually promoted the idea of swapping the weevil-blighted cotton crops with 
peanuts to save the economy of the south. This writer, though has stated some 
facts about the inaccuracy of some historic claims, but only enough to plant 
seeds of doubt in the mind of the person who tends to believe only the first 
things he reads...He has a point though; If we truly want to know EXACTLY what 
Black inventors contribution have been, we really need to research them 
thoroughly. I witnessed a 'Black History Jeopardy'
 tournament at the university I am attending for college prep courses where 
almost all of the questions on black Entrepreneurs and Inventors went almost 
totally unansweredI was very embarrassed...
  
Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found that after awhile (I saved the copy as a text file, because I'm silly 
that way). So far, I haven't been able to find a one of the mentioned books in 
the area. I haven't looked at Amazon, because I don't buy online at all.

JediMaster*Skywalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  he's got a small bibilography 
up. it'll be interesting to see if 
this carries any weight or not and what the ramifications will be.

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 All I could find so far is a name, Ian Taggart, and an e-mail 
addy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] He can sue me if he likes. He was dumb enough to post 
a link to the thing, so I call it public domain. I'll be dropping 
him a line on it, asking for his source material.
 
 JediMaster*Skywalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
 
 i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
 lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
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 debunking i mean)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

2006-03-13 Thread JediMaster*Skywalker
he's got a small bibilography up. it'll be interesting to see if 
this carries any weight or not and what the ramifications will be.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 All I could find so far is a name, Ian Taggart, and an e-mail 
addy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] He can sue me if he likes. He was dumb enough to post 
a link to the thing, so I call it public domain. I'll be dropping 
him a line on it, asking for his source material.
 
 JediMaster*Skywalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
 
 i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
 lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
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