You really, really need to check your facts. Clyburn was on the fence for 
months. Like many blacks in this country (me included) he was leaning toward 
Hillary Clinton. But Obama's success, coupled with the Clinton's increasingly 
hostile and dirty tactics, made him lean toward Obama. I watched Clyburn in a 
live interview say that he called Bill Clinton personally to tell him he was 
going with Obama, and Clinton cussed at him. I heard Richardson say Clinton 
went off on him. Hell, Teddy Kennedy said the Clintons went off on him too. 
John Lewis here in Atlanta called to tell them, and he too said it didn't go 
well. I liked and like Bill and Hillary, but they did this to themselves.  You 
call Clyburn a dog, but it was the Clintons who acted like brutes, cursing and 
threatening and attacking people for having the temerity to back someone else. 
Tonight at the DNC, Clyburn said he liked the Clintons, still likes the 
Clintons. "I have no problem with them", he said.He then said he still fel
t some of their comments could have been interpreted as racist, but that he 
still had no enduring problem with them.

How is that the posture of an angry dog?

And I'm really, really confused. What did Obama do to Hillary? How can you in 
the same night attack Obama and men for a sexist plot against Hillary, then say 
she came out swinging and he was meek.   She lost this fight, and you are 
saying you'll never vote for him. You are Black right? Then tell me how a 
respectful Black man like Obama who speaks with nothing but respect for women 
is worse than McCain, who called his wife the c-word in public? Tell me how you 
have contempt for Obama who has an intelligent, educated wife who I believe 
will bring more respect to the First Lady, while going with don't-say-too-much 
Cindy McCain?

You're entitled to your opinion, that's the American way. But if I could 
understand it as something other than an odd hatred of Obama, or men, or Black 
men--or all three--that'd be nice. If you think a white multi-millionaire like 
john McCain who supported a senseless invasion that will cost us trillions is 
better for you than a Black man who understands the struggles of being both 
Black and not wealthy, that's your right.  

I'm tired, mad at myself for staying up this late and doing this instead of 
writing or job searching. But I say again--and finally--you seem to have a lot 
of hostility. I've read all your posts, and they seem to have a common theme of 
hatred for men, hatred for Black men, and contempt for Black people who dare 
say the world's not fair to them. i just don't get it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:56:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
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Maybe, but he never resorted to the nasty, name-calling, baiting, disparaging, 
disrespectful tactics the Clintons did. 

No he had his rotweiler Clyburn and other blacks do it. He had those who hated 
Hilary do it. 

When Hillary was belittling him as nothing but a one-speech guy, who was 
respectfully disagreeing with her. when she shot nasty and really angry 
comments at him during their debates,

Please I watched those debates. She did not let him get away with anything. She 
cam out swinging. He never fought back. He played the meek nice guy care. 
If the moderater talked about his problems, people felt sorry for him. *gag*


he acted with calm and class and made his point, firmly. And I believe that had 
he lost, he'd have been out there doing his level best to help the Clintons 
win, despite how they treated him. What did Hillary and Bill do at first? Acted 
like poor losers, dropped out of sight, Bill going so far as to leave the 
country rather than be asked to campaign for Obama.
They're getting their stuff together now, but it took a while. I say this as 
someone who liked Hillary long past the point when many men and women hated 
her, who defended many of her deeds as just tough politics, who sat in 
indecision for long moments in the booth here in Atlanta before finally casting 
my vote for Obama. I don't have a problem with her as a woman or anything like 
that. I just have a problem with the way they let their campaign against Obama 
degenerate. They messed up big, and everyone seems to realize that, them 
included.

That is why I am voting McCain. There is nothing Hilary can not and say to make 
me vote for that man. She had it in her grasp and she lost it.






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