Re: MUSCLE applications?

1999-03-04 Thread David Corcoran

Hello,

I have a few killer PKI related apps in mind but have to finish PC/SC first. 
It is in it's final stages.

Thanks
Dave

On Mon, 01 Mar 1999, Morten Norman wrote:
>I'm just curious...
>
>Are there any people writing PC/SC smartcard *applications* for Linux yet?
>
>My experience from smartcard development, so far, is that some big actor(s)
>decides to use the technology.  Then they launch "it all":  application +
>reader + smartcard + infrastructure (card issuing, contracts etc.).  PC/SC
>and multivendor projects are changing things, but rather slow.
>
>Thus I'm very curious to see how things are going to develop the "Linux way",
>where things more or less grows step-by-step, but fast (if they are accepted).
>
>Are there any potential killer applications for Linux in the pipeline?
>Will we mainly port or adopt things from other platforms, or make new
>applications targeted to be accepted by individuals or small groups?
>
>Morten
>
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Re: MUSCLE applications? (was: Re: Bouncer)

1999-03-03 Thread Morten Norman


>Single sign-on on Linux would be a valuable application.
>The market for this application is huge especially when
>the migration from NT to Linux becomes a stampede.
>
>Dennis Wier

This gives some hope!

There already is a demonstration PAM (Pluggable Authentication
Modules) application in MUSCLE!  I guess someone will extend it when it's
"application time".

My experience of PAM is almost nil, but as I understand, most Linuxes
already uses it.  It's just that it asks for a password in the default
setup.

Was it plug'n play they called it? :-)

/Morten

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Re: MUSCLE applications?

1999-03-02 Thread Erwann ABALEA

On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Dennis Wier wrote:

> Killer application of the (near) future would be
> when ADSL is really launched and people start downloading
> video.  Like single sign-on, they will be tired of
> punching in their credit card, so smartcard will
> be the choice.  But, the readers would likely have to
> be both swipe plus smartcard, plus probably pin
> so that legacy credit cards could be used.  There is
> ecash and ecommerce where every click on every
> icon gets to nibble on your bank account too.
> This is (fortunately) not yet, but it could
> 'drive' development of smart cards.
> 
> That's just one possibility.  But this depends on
> credit card companies issuing smart cards.  But they
> are sitting on some billion magnetic stripe cards
> so there is no reason to change, yet.  Credit card
> companies have developed (their) applications using the
> smart card.  The problem is standards.

In France, we already use smartcards for banking, since about 10 years...
And since a few months, we've got at least 2 systems for electronic
commerce, using smartcards. One is only valid for French customers and
French merchants, the other is SET compliant, but can use the French
smartcard to authenticate.

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Re: MUSCLE applications?

1999-03-01 Thread Dennis Wier

I thought I would put my 2 cents in.

Killer application of the (near) future would be
when ADSL is really launched and people start downloading
video.  Like single sign-on, they will be tired of
punching in their credit card, so smartcard will
be the choice.  But, the readers would likely have to
be both swipe plus smartcard, plus probably pin
so that legacy credit cards could be used.  There is
ecash and ecommerce where every click on every
icon gets to nibble on your bank account too.
This is (fortunately) not yet, but it could
'drive' development of smart cards.

That's just one possibility.  But this depends on
credit card companies issuing smart cards.  But they
are sitting on some billion magnetic stripe cards
so there is no reason to change, yet.  Credit card
companies have developed (their) applications using the
smart card.  The problem is standards.

I suppose someone could develop an ad hoc standard
as a 'cash' card for downloading porno movies ...
don't laugh, development of killer apps sometimes
takes exactly that form, and then the standard
is adopted and legitimized.

Dennis Wier

>I'm just curious...
>
>Are there any people writing PC/SC smartcard *applications* for Linux yet?
>
>My experience from smartcard development, so far, is that some big actor(s)
>decides to use the technology.  Then they launch "it all":  application +
>reader + smartcard + infrastructure (card issuing, contracts etc.).  PC/SC
>and multivendor projects are changing things, but rather slow.
>
>Thus I'm very curious to see how things are going to develop the "Linux way",
>where things more or less grows step-by-step, but fast (if they are accepted).
>
>Are there any potential killer applications for Linux in the pipeline?
>Will we mainly port or adopt things from other platforms, or make new
>applications targeted to be accepted by individuals or small groups?
>
>Morten
>
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>http://www.linuxnet.com/smartcard/index.html
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>

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MUSCLE applications?

1999-03-01 Thread Morten Norman

I'm just curious...

Are there any people writing PC/SC smartcard *applications* for Linux yet?

My experience from smartcard development, so far, is that some big actor(s)
decides to use the technology.  Then they launch "it all":  application +
reader + smartcard + infrastructure (card issuing, contracts etc.).  PC/SC
and multivendor projects are changing things, but rather slow.

Thus I'm very curious to see how things are going to develop the "Linux way",
where things more or less grows step-by-step, but fast (if they are accepted).

Are there any potential killer applications for Linux in the pipeline?
Will we mainly port or adopt things from other platforms, or make new
applications targeted to be accepted by individuals or small groups?

Morten

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