Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite

2001-09-30 Thread Nigel Gatherer

John Chambers wrote:

 ...New England contra-dance musicians (who consider it Irish)...

So, for that matter, do Irish musicians. Even if it were Nathaniel
Gow's composition it, along with hundreds of Scots-origin tunes, can be
regarded as Irish because it has been absorbed into that tradition. It
doesn't exactly work the other way around. Take a tune like The Rakes
of Mallow which is obviously an Irish tune in origin (Mallow is a town
in County Cork): it has been played for centuries in Scotland and is
part of our traditional repertoire, but would we call it a Scottish
tune?

Consider this can of worms opened (are you ready, Ted?).

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[scots-l] Peter Milne

2001-09-30 Thread Nigel Gatherer

It's Peter Milne's 177th birthday! 

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[scots-l] Radio Scotland On-Line

2001-09-30 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Can someone post details of how to access Radio Scotland's traditional
and folk music programmes on-line. I've never done this sort of thing,
but I know some of our North American friends would love it (Hi Pat
Holub!). Is it broadcast on the internet at the same time as over the
air? Is a URL sufficient to access it, or do you need to know specific
times?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [scots-l] Radio Scotland On-Line

2001-09-30 Thread Tracy Boyle

Archie Fisher's Travelling Folk is at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/travelling_folk.shtml

Robbie Shepherd, Take the Floor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/take_the_floor.shtml

Robbie Shepherd, Reel Blend
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/reel_blend.shtml

Pipeline
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/pipeline.shtml

Celtic Connections
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/celtic_connections.shtml

Iain Anderson
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/progs/iain.shtml

I think that's most of them. Each page gives the (UK) time that the
programme is broadcast on the radio. The programmes seem to be broadcast on
the internet at the same time as on the radio. There are however sound clips
from previous shows on each page.

- Original Message -
From: Nigel Gatherer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Scots-L Posting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: [scots-l] Radio Scotland On-Line


 Can someone post details of how to access Radio Scotland's traditional
 and folk music programmes on-line. I've never done this sort of thing,
 but I know some of our North American friends would love it (Hi Pat
 Holub!). Is it broadcast on the internet at the same time as over the
 air? Is a URL sufficient to access it, or do you need to know specific
 times?

 Thanks in advance.

 --
 Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/

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Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite

2001-09-30 Thread John Chambers

Nigel Gatherer writes:
| John Chambers wrote:
|  ...New England contra-dance musicians (who consider it Irish)...
|
| So, for that matter, do Irish musicians. Even if it were Nathaniel
| Gow's composition it, along with hundreds of Scots-origin tunes, can be
| regarded as Irish because it has been absorbed into that tradition. It
| doesn't exactly work the other way around. Take a tune like The Rakes
| of Mallow which is obviously an Irish tune in origin (Mallow is a town
| in County Cork): it has been played for centuries in Scotland and is
| part of our traditional repertoire, but would we call it a Scottish
| tune?
|
| Consider this can of worms opened (are you ready, Ted?).

Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all. They're
just following one of the oldest and most universal musical
traditions:  If you hear a good tune, steal it.

After a generation or two, your people will consider it one
of their traditional tunes.  And it will be.

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Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite

2001-09-30 Thread Nigel Gatherer

John Chambers wrote:

 Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all...

Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy thread? :-)

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Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite

2001-09-30 Thread John Chambers

Nigel Gatherer writes:
| John Chambers wrote:
|
|  Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at all...
|
| Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy thread? :-)

Oh, sorry, uh, I guess it's really a can of worms. Big, fat
ones that would make good troll bait.

(Hmmm ... Do trolls eat worms? I don't know what they eat.)

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Re: [scots-l] Maggie Brown's Favourite

2001-09-30 Thread Christopher Rennie


--- John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nigel Gatherer writes:
 | John Chambers wrote:
 |
 |  Well, I wouldn't consider it a can of worms at
 all...
 |
 | Can't you tell when I'm trying to whip up a juicy
 thread? :-)
 
 Oh, sorry, uh, I guess it's really a can of worms.
 Big, fat
 ones that would make good troll bait.
 
 (Hmmm ... Do trolls eat worms? I don't know what
 they eat.)
 

Goat meatif we remember the children's rhyme.

Chris

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Re: [scots-l] 9-11-01 (was: Is anyone there?)

2001-09-30 Thread Jeri Corlew

On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:41:42 +0100, you wrote:

Jeri Corlew wrote:

 Perhaps not very good nor original.  Certainly not Scottish-sounding.
  It's just my attempt at an angry lament.
 http://personalpages.tds.net/~jeric/9-11-01.mid

I think it's a fantastic piece, Jeri. I'd love to hear it performed by
a small ensemble with two pipers. Have you ever done this? 

Thanks Nigel!  Performed in a small ensemble with two pipers? No.  I
actually don't perform - at least not for money.

I have been
in the fortunate position of being able to compose certain musical
pieces for a 20-piece folk music orchestra as well as a smaller folk
group, and although I find it difficult, the results can be
spectacular. 

Frankly, I don't know what I'm doing, but I enjoy it.  I haven't had any
formal music education, but having a decent ear and good music software
makes up for that.  I've never really considered the possiblity of anyone
actually using the arrangements I've done.

I love the harmonies you introduced on 9-11-01, and I think the
overall effect is everything you wanted it to be. What did you mean
when you said it wasn't original? By the way, I've also been playing
The February March (cute) - how do you hear that one being performed?
What instruments do you play yourself? (Pardon the intrusive
questioning. We've had nothing in Scots-L for days!)

As to the originality, I'm one of those unfortunate souls who constantly
recognises bits of one tune in others.  I suppose I'm getting to the stage
where a tune in a minor key doesn't sound original simply because someone
has used those notes and harmonies before.  I can't hear anything in this
lament I might have swiped, but I'm always afraid of doing that.  It may be
somewhat predictable as well.

I haven't thought much about the February March.  I'm a little surprised
anyone's playing any of my tunes!  (Honored, too.)  I just think it's a
bouncy, happy tune, with lots of room for harmonies.  Of course, it would
sound good with a whole bunch of fiddles, which is what I attempt to play.



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