Re: [scots-l] Re: Music source books

2002-10-12 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
Nigel Gatherer wrote:


Bob Rogers wrote:

 

I keep reading in various sources that anything published before 1922
is considered in the public domain (at least here in the States)...
   


Are you sure that's correct? As I understood it, the copyright last for
75 years after the artist's death, 

I know you're in Scotland, and you might have different copyright laws 
than we have, especially regarding things from the early part of the 
last century. There might be an interesting situation whereby I can 
publish Skinner's works on my website, but you can't look at them

At the very end of this post is a bit from Circular 15a, located on the 
Library of Congress website ( http://www.loc.gov/copyright ) --  [...] 
indicates material removed by me. The second to the last line is the 
most interesting. For works published prior to 1950, the longest 
possible copyright in the USA is 95 years (under present law).

You may like to look at the following website, which gives expiration 
dates in the USA based on when the work was published. It states that 
anything published before 1923 is public domain.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

The next website has a lot of details on the suit currently in front of 
the US Supreme Court on the constitutionality of the "Mickey Mouse 
Protection Act," (Or is that the "Sony Bono Copyright Term Extention Act"?)

http://www.law.asu.edu/HomePages/Karjala/OpposingCopyrightExtension/

How Mickey Mouse relates to copyright:
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20020305_sprigman.html

Finally, a nifty website on public domain music
http://www.pdinfo.com/default.htm

Bob

/begin quote from _Circular 15a_:
Protection Duration Under the Previous Law

Under the law in effect before 1978, [...]
In either case, the copyright lasted for a first
term of 28 years from the date it was secured. The copyright
was eligible for renewal during the last (28th) year of
the first term. [...]

Effect of the Present Law on Length of Subsisting Copyrights

The old system of computing the duration of protection
was carried over into the 1976 statute with one major
change: the length of the second term is increased to
67 years. Thus, the maximum total term of copyright
[... increased ...]  to 95 years (a first term of 28
years plus a renewal term of 67 years).

/end quote



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Re: [scots-l] Soldier's tunes

2002-10-12 Thread David Kilpatrick


Cynthia Cathcart wrote:



Soldier's address to his musket




might there be tunes for a soldier as he prays that 
his muskett won't miss-fire in battle?

Or am I trying to read some deep meaning into something where there is 
none? Any opinions?



I think it's just a traditional 'title format' - like a Farewell. It 
might be called Planxty Musket instead :-)

Having seen some genuine musket loading and firing I guess there would 
be time between shots for about 16 bars!

David

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Re: [scots-l] Re: Music source books

2002-10-12 Thread Steve Wyrick
Jack Campin wrote:

> American copyright law is weird and American copyright law on broad-
> casting is even weirder.  Anybody know how it ever came about that
> US radio broadcasters don't pay any royalties?

Can that be right?  I don't know much about American copyright law but I do
know BMI collects royalties from radio stations for songs played and
distributes them to songwriters who are members. -Steve
-- 
Steve Wyrick - Concord, California

"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee -- that says: Fool me once, shame on [pause] shame on you. [pause]
Fool me... you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush

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[scots-l] Re: Music source books

2002-10-12 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Bob Rogers wrote:

> I keep reading in various sources that anything published before 1922
> is considered in the public domain (at least here in the States)...

Are you sure that's correct? As I understood it, the copyright last for
75 years after the artist's death, so if someone's work was published
in 1921 and he or she died in 1928, it's still under copyright. Having
said that, Skinner died in 1927, so the copyright on his compositions
has, I think, just run out. 

Not that many have bothered about that for a long time. From Shand in
the thirties to recording artists in the nineties, the common practice
was to ignore Skinner's copyright and regard his stuff as P.D. I'm not
saying that it was right, but it happened.

Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong, Bob - I just didn't know about it.

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/

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[scots-l] Soldier's tunes

2002-10-12 Thread Cynthia Cathcart
I am making a study of the Angus Fraser Collection, and a couple of the 
tune titles have caught my eye. The titles are:

The Musket is my Lover
Soldier's address to his musket

Now, maybe the first is reflective of the way a soldier feels, out there in 
the fields of battle away from their wives and girlfriends. But, especially 
for the "address", I wonder if there might be some tune form that is or was 
recognized as something a soldier might perform before going into battle? 
For example, we have tunes for putting children to sleep (lullabies) might 
there be tunes for a soldier as he prays that his muskett won't miss-fire 
in battle?

Or am I trying to read some deep meaning into something where there is 
none? Any opinions?

--Cynthia Cathcart
http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/


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Re: [scots-l] Re: Music source books

2002-10-12 Thread Carla and Bob Rogers
Jack Campin wrote:


Simply putting raw scans[of Skinner's work] on-line would be better.
 

Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with raw scans though?
   


 


I keep reading in various sources that anything published before 1922 is 
considered in the public domain (at least here in the States). _Harp and 
Claymore_, for instance was first published in 1903,  I think. Looking 
through it, it seems mostly generic notation.

Bob
South Carolina


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