Re: [scots-l] Cretin Desires to Be Musical.

2004-02-21 Thread Ian Adkins DSO-CS 9ER
Bob writes:

 There's a usenet group for pipers. The feeling is unanamous that one
needs to have a teacher to learn the pipes. 

That's what I feared.  I guess we had one locally for a while, then he
went postal and was fired by the university.

 By gateway instrument, you might mean tin whistle. Tin whistle is very
fun to play, and relatively easy to pick up on your own. 
chiffandfipple.com is a pretty impressive (if not exhaustive) place to
start. 

Far out.  That's a pretty funny website.  I think you may be right, this
could be a place to start.  I have a recorder at home, but couldn't find
any decent resources.  Conversely, there seems to be a lot on the tin
whistle out there.

Bruce Campbell scrievit:

 You cannot teach yourself to play the bagpipes. 

Sigh.  As noted above.  When I was 18, I ran with a pipe band in Niagara
Falls but goofed off and never learned much.  About piping that is.  I
learned a lot about whisky.

 What geographic area are you in? 

I'm temporarily dislocated in Alfred, N.Y., directly south of Rochester on
the Pennsylvania border, maybe 150 miles from Buffalo.


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Re: [scots-l] Cretin Desires to Be Musical.

2004-02-21 Thread scotsnaps
Uill, Ian-
 I just want to let you know that I had the same question, so thank you for 
posting it. After placing an order for headphones and Prozac, my husband (he can't 
believe that he did this) ordered me a set of pipes for Christmas.  I will have Gibson 
smallpipes within a week.  The people at Gibson told me that it will come with 
information on how to use them, so I guess the first thing that I will do is read the 
booklet or whatever, and bumble around.  I'm not very encouraged to hear that it is 
hard to learn how to play them, but I am patient and persistent.  I will save your 
e-mail address, and if I find anything useful for us beginners, I will be sure to let 
you know.
Cairistiona 
California
 
 Let me make here my ardent plea for web resources devoted to teaching the
 musically incompetent the bagpipes.  Failing that, I'll settle for a
 gateway instrument.  I'm not kidding.  Simple for simple minds.
 
 
 -- 
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  U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary
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Re: [scots-l] Cretin Desires to Be Musical.

2004-02-21 Thread Jack Campin
 There's a usenet group for pipers. The feeling is unanamous that
 one needs to have a teacher to learn the pipes.
 That's what I feared.  I guess we had one locally for a while,
 then he went postal and was fired by the university.

It may not be that bad - lots of people use the (Glasgow) College
of Piping's teaching materials on their own (books, recordings,
videos).  You hear lots of complaints about Seamus McNeill being
an arrogant old SOB but I haven't heard anyone saying his stuff
doesn't work.


 By gateway instrument, you might mean tin whistle. Tin whistle
 is very fun to play, and relatively easy to pick up on your own.

And not much like the pipes.
 

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[scots-l] College of Piping

2004-02-21 Thread eydmann
Regarding the College of Piping in Glasgow. Seamus MacNeill 
is long gone and the current principal is my 'binkies 
companion Rab Wallace. The college caters for a large number 
of beginners throughout the world and has produced very 
successful teaching material. The well known books have now 
been wholly updated. See their site at:

http://www.college-of-piping.co.uk/

Stuart Eydmann
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[scots-l] Scots Box Players?

2004-02-21 Thread eydmann
Dominique enquired and Nigel suggested I might have 
something to say.

I have been vary about contributing as my last post on the 
accordion in Scotland attracted considerable flame. To some 
the accordion family is still viewed as not quite Scottish.

Scotland has a long and unbroken tradition of melodion 
playing which goes back to the 19th century and reached its 
peak in the 1920s and 30s when large numbers of gramophone 
records were made. Only a few have been re-released but 
Topic's Melodion Greats is worth a listen. Also Sleepytoon 
Records has been doing reissues. I have my own archive and 
hope to release some too if I can find the time. I have 
written two papers on the subject mentioned below. The most 
recent is in a very obscure publication and at present I am 
not allowed to distribute photocopies. However I do hope to 
post them in due course on my projected Scottish music 
website.

Keith Chandler has a good article on the Wypers at:

http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/wypers.htm

The www.mustrad.org.uk

Also, some interesting material is coming to light in the 
archives of German manufacturers which shows just how 
important the Scottish market was and how highly regarded 
the best players there were.

Hope this helps.

Stuart Eydmann

Eydmann, Stuart (1999) As Common as Blackberries: The First 
Hundred Years of the Accordion in Scotland. Folk Music 
Journal 7 No. 5 pp.565-608.

Eydmann, Stuart (2001) From the Wee Melodeon to the Big 
Box: The Accordion in Scotland since 1945. The Accordion 
in all its Guises, Musical Performance Volume 3 Parts 2 - 4 
pp.107-125.

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Re: [scots-l] Fear a Bhois Fada Gun Phosadh

2004-02-21 Thread George Seto
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Nigel Gatherer wrote:

 Can anyone translate the title of this tune? I suspect it's something
 like a man who is late in marrying (which is part of the lyric
 supplied) but I'd like to make sure.
 
 X:624
 T:Fear a Bhois Fada Gun Phosadh

It should be Fear a Bhitheas Fada Gun Phosadh.

It reads,  A Man Who Would Be Long Without Marrying.

The lyrics go:

1   Fear a bhitheas fada gun phòsadh
Fàsaidh feur is fraoch is fireach air
Fear a bhitheas fada gun phòsadh
Fàsaidh feusag mhór air


(Man who would be long without marrying
Will grow grass and heather and a hill on him.
Man who would be long without marrying
Will grow a big beard on him.)


2   Repeat Verse 1


3   Fàsaidh feur air, fàsaidh fraoch air
Fàsaidh feur is fraoch is fireach air
Fàsaidh feur air, fàsaidh fraoch air
Fàsaidh feusag mhór air

(Will grow grass on him, Will grow heather on him.
Will grow grass and heather and a hill on him.
Will grow grass on him, Will grow heather on him.
Will grow a big beard on him.)


4   Fàsaidh feur air, fàsaidh fraoch air
Fàsaidh feur is fraoch is fireach air
Fear a bhitheas fada gun phòsadh
Fàsaidh feusag mhór air.

(Will grow grass on him, Will grow heather on him.
Will grow grass and heather and a hill on him.
A man who will be long without marrying
Will grow a big beard on him.)


[Then repeat the whole thing all over again]

It's a fun piece. 

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Re: [scots-l] Cretin Desires to Be Musical.

2004-02-21 Thread Steve Wyrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uill, Ian-
 I just want to let you know that I had the same question, so thank you for
 posting it. After placing an order for headphones and Prozac, my husband (he
 can't believe that he did this) ordered me a set of pipes for Christmas.  I
 will have Gibson smallpipes within a week.  The people at Gibson told me that
 it will come with information on how to use them, so I guess the first thing
 that I will do is read the booklet or whatever, and bumble around.  I'm not
 very encouraged to hear that it is hard to learn how to play them, but I am
 patient and persistent.  I will save your e-mail address, and if I find
 anything useful for us beginners, I will be sure to let you know.
 Cairistiona 
 California

I think that it's not that it's so hard to learn to play pipes (although
obviously they have their challenges), but that it's difficult or impossible
to learn to play them correctly without someone guiding you!  A friend of
mine is learning Highland pipes from a good piping teacher here and from
what she tells me, apart from learning how to play the actual music there's
a ton of fiddly little things to adjust to make them work right; for
instance they spent about a year working through different combinations of
drone reeds before they found a set that worked well with her pipes.  She
assumed she was doing something wrong and that's why the set was so hard to
play, but when they finally got it sorted out she was surprised how much
easier it was to make them sound.  That's the kind of stuff you need an
experienced piper to help you with.  Good luck in your learning,
Cairistiona!  -Steve
-- 
Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California


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